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Breaking down the coaching possibilities

Stephen Ross said the Dolphins are "open to everything" in their search for a new head coach.

"I'd like to find a young Don Shula if that's possible," he said.

Then during the next 14 minutes the Dolphins owner and general manager Jeff Ireland, who will help conduct the search, said they're looking for someone "with experience," someone who is a head coach but not necessarily someone who wants control or final say on personnel matters, and obviously someone who can work with Ireland.

Hmmm. That limits the field more than you might guess, assuming Ross and Ireland can be believed.

Anyway, let's look at some of the certain candidates, possible candidates, and some candidates that are already eliminated:

1. Bill Cowher: I dont see it. He's not going to coach the Miami Dolphins. I spent 40 minutes on the phone with a very plugged-in NFL man today and he tells me there is no way Cowher comes to the Dolphins. Not a fit. Cowher wants to walk into the perfect situation -- which the Dolphins definitely are not -- and he is willing to wait for that situation. Is he great motivator? No doubt. Keith Sims said on my radio show, Armando and the Amigo, today that Cowher was the coach of the AFC team one year he was in the Pro Bowl. Sims said Cowher gave a pregame speech that had the entire squad wanting to play hard. In the Pro Bowl! But he has been out of the game for several years now and one might question his desire to start from the ground up with a team that isn't playoff-ready. I would say this, his philosophy on defense matches the Dolphins 3-4 scheme. But he's a longshot, at best.

2. Jon Gruden: A big name. An offensive mind. He's won the Super Bowl so he knows how to do it. Having said that, he has a reputation of being hard to work with. He has reputation for never being satisfied. That's one reason he always had a dozen quarterbacks in camp but never a truly great one. He likes to think of himself as something of a mastermind. He does know how to push people's buttons and motivate. He might eventually want to get back in the game. But, again, it would have to be the perfect situation. The Dolphins don't seem to be a perfect situation, folks.

3. Brian Billick: I like this possibility. He is offensive minded. He can adjust -- as he did with the Ravens in that he allowed that amazing defense to dictate and dominate the personna of the team. He has a reputation for being able to work with QBs. He hasnt coached in four seasons, since 2007, and one has to wonder why? He's only 57 years old so it's not like he's too old for the game. I don't worry that he hasn't been hired since his last job, I wonder why he hasn't even been considered? Billick has three losing seasons while with the Baltimore Ravens. His last losing season was 2007 when the team went 5-11 and were beaten by the Dolphins for the only victory that team enjoyed all year. I remember that Billick played it safe and decided not to go for a potential game-winning TD on fourth-and-goal from the 1 yard line, opting instead to tie the game with a field goal. The Ravens lost the game in overtime. Not exactly Billick's finest hour.

4. Jeff Fisher: I know, I know, he had only six winning seasons in 17 years. He only had six losing seasons in 17 years as well. He is, what I would call, a solid, solid coach. He's not a genius, but he is very bright. He knows how to motivate. His defenses play with passion, although he like the 4-3 instead of the 3-4 so that might require the retooling of current personnel. He is a favorite of Jerry Jones, so that says something very good for him because Jones knows coaching talent. He has not won the Super Bowl but took his team there in 1999 and lost to the St. Louis Rams "greatest show on turf" team in what was one of the classic endings in the history of the game -- his team fell short of tying the game by one yard. The fact Fisher hasn't won a Super Bowl suggests he'll still be hungry. He didn't step away from the Titans of his own will. He was fired. So I assume he would want to be coaching if he could. Fisher is well-respected around the league. He'd bring instant credibility.

5. Les Miles: He is a Michigan man. Stephen Ross is a Michigan man. Miles is a candidate. He's 58 so he's no puppy, but he seems to be hitting his stride in recent years. He's taken Louisiana State to the top of the college football world and might be quite comfortable staying on that plateau. Or he might be convinced to try to climb higher. Miles has some, but not a lot of NFL experience. He coached under Chan Gailey in Dallas and then stayed on when Dave Campo took over in 2000. So he gets the pro aspects of the game. Miles is not a compulsive person. He is very well-balanced. He doesn't work 21 hours a day and sleep on the couch in his office the other three the week before a big game. He has a family and a family life. This can be both a good and bad thing for an NFL coach.

6. Chip Kelly: He is 48 and regarded as one of the most innovative offensive minds in college football today. The Oregan Duck run an offensive play once every 13 seconds. Can you imagine what that would do to NFL defenses? They would go, pardon the pun, daffy. Oregon is on the NCAA's radar for possible violations relative to a recruiting company. It is not considered major stuff so it's doesn't necessarily mean Kelly would want to exit. But I'm putting it out there because one never knows what folks are thinking. The obvious drawback here is Kelly has never coached in the NFL in any capacity. It would be audacious to even interview him. I love audacious.

7: Rob Chudzinski: He's the offensive coordinator in Carolina. He's been an assistant at the University of Miami, and the offensive coordinator in Cleveland. He also spent time under Norv Turner in San Diego. He will be an NFL head coach some day. And with his fine work in bringing Cam Newton into the NFL game in a relatively short span of time, I would not be surprised if he gets interviews after this season. But are the Dolphins willing to turn over the keys of their franchise to a man with zero head coach experience? I think that's a long shot. Chud, 43, wouldn't be the sexiest hire and wouldn't sell tickets. But he would be interesting.

8. Rob Ryan: God, please, no! Like his brother Rex, the New York Jets coach, Rob is a defense-minded guy. Unlike his brother Rex, Rob's defenses don't inspire any confidence, or intimidation or enough wins. Yes, that was Ryan's defense collapsing in the final moments as Eli Manning rallied the Giants to victory last Sunday night. Ryan, in my estimation, talks a better game than he coaches. NFL people also say he's not as good as good a coach as his brother. Otherwise, he's wonderful.

9. Herman Edwards: The truth is that Ross's non-denial denial of the looming Carl Peterson hire matters in this search. Peterson is definitely helping Ross gather ideas, thoughts, and yes, candidates. Peterson once hired Edwards to coach in Kansas City. It failed. Edwards had previously washed out with the New York Jets. I like Herm. He's very charismatic. He motivates. But I've heard stories of how the New England Patriots coaches snickered at the thought of Edwards matching up with them twice a year back in the day. They apparently believed they had an advantage on Edwards and his staff. That's not the kind of reaction I want for the Dolphins before they play the Pats twice a year.

10. Eric Mangini: Strange bird. But Ross likes him. Birds of a feather? Mangini somehow endeared himself to Ross while he was the New York Jets coach. Ross sees him as something of a Belichick Jr. Ross likes the fact he gave the Patriots a run there for all of about one year. Problem is, Ross just fired a coach who gave the Patriots a run there for all of about one year. Mangini denied it, but I heard he's been speaking with Ross even while Sparano was coach, not undermining Sparano, but certainly adding his two cents. It reeks to me. Mangini is on ESPN currently and that shouldn't play any role in this search, but I fear it does. It gives him a bit of star power. He's seen, known. And Ross likes that. Never mind that he's been fired by the Jets and Browns, didn't have a winning record with either franchise, and his overall 33-47 record is worse than the record of the coach Ross just fired.

The The Wildcards: What if Tom Couglin or Andy Reid get fired? I don't see it, but what if? Both good choices ... Marty Schottenheimer is in play because of the Peterson factor. So is his son Brian, who is the offenisve coordinator with the Jets. But I don't see either because the elder Schotty is 68 years old and is yesterday's news and seems like a putting a band-aid on a deep gash. His son, Brian, will be a head coach someday, but the truth is he's not at the top of the coordinator ladder yet, so how can one ask him to climb the next rung to the head coach level? .... Norv Turner is a fine coordinator but the bloom is off on him as a head coach. He will likely go in San Diego and he isn't coming here. Jack Del Rio? Not interesting and not interested ... Todd Bowles will definitely be interviewed. He's the only candidate we know will get an interview with any certainty. I have no idea what the guy stands for or is about. I do know if he finishes 3-0, people will be clamoring for him to be hired permanently because he will have beaten Bill Belichick and Rex Ryan in back-to-back weeks.

I know I didn't mention the hot OC in Green Bay. I know I didn't mention Dom Capers. I know I didn't mention any really hot assistants. Look, I've been told this hire will be a man with a reputation, a man with experience and a man who people can get excited about. And so I'm going to believe that until I have reason not to.

[Radio announcement that the haters can't stand: I'll be discussing all of this, the apparent looming Peterson hire, and the latest gossip and insider information on my radio show, Armando and the Amigo, this morning 6-10 a.m. You can WATCH the live stream broadcast of the show by clicking the link here. You can also participate as we take phone calls from anywhere in the United States, the greatest country in the history of Earth. The toll free number is 1-888-640-9385.]

 

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..The one guy I hope we stay away from on that list is Chip Kelly.. I see the offensive scheme every week(they use it here @ Montana) It is great for college..For the Pro's I'm not so sure.

The problem with the Dolphins search is they want a superstar, but "not necessarily someone who wants control or final say on personnel matters." In other words, Jeff Ireland is trying to protect his turf. This will cause proven commodities, like Bill Cowher, to pass on this second rate organization that's prone to internal political power struggles.

Told you Darryl, Mando never anything go to waste-LOL>

From the last post:


Get used to it,

You sound awful familiar to another guy that posts here. You and him have very similar opinions on this situation. Matter of fact, ALMOST word for word/verbatim opinions on this.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - LOL!

Posted by: odinseye | December 14, 2011 at 12:05 AM

Damn some how part of my post got in my screen name box. ROTFLMAO!

Posted by: Yesterday's Gone | December 14, 2011 at 12:05 AM
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YG, I guess you have one of those "Over-Sensitive Mouses" like Kris?

LOL!


On Cowher:

But he has been out of the game for several years now and one might question his desire to start from the ground up with a team that isn't playoff-ready.

-Armando Salguero-
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OK Armando, I've read this before. Just a quick question though:

How many Playoff Ready Teams fire their Head Coaches?

HELLO? Geez! This is about **RIDICULOUS**!

NEXT!!!!

Ireland will come up with a Coach that is not on anybody's list.

dont have to be fired, some coaches quit or retire

ireland is awful, and to think of all the fools at the start this year thinking sparano and ireland were good.

There it is...Chip Kelly. His team is always ready to play, though needs help with size and strength. Gets beat on the line with non Pac 12 opponents. Good recruiter and his team has swagger. Could be interesting.

uh no to chip kelly, a big fat hell no


dont have to be fired, some coaches quit or retire

Posted by: dusty bottoms | December 14, 2011 at 12:20 AM
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How many Coaches ever quit or retired the same year their team made the playoffs?

Let me see(checking......checking wiki......checking)Oh, here it is: 0

PS: Just kidding, there is ONE! He coached for Miami of all things. Jimmy J quit the year his Fins were blown out by 60 points or so. I think that one instance is the one exception to every rule.

If Cowher is waiting for a playoff team to be handed to him, he better by some more stock in Rogaine! It ain't happening :)

uh bill cowher, tony dungy

about 20 more but im tired and not gonna list them. just proved u wrong though. im out fellas

"He is a favorite of Jerry Jones, so that says something very good for him because Jones knows coaching talent"

Evidence:

Jimmy (ok, that's one)
Barry Switzer
Dave Campo
Chan Gailey
Old Tuna
Fat Wade
Jason Garrett (really bad)

Since Switzer's 1st year, 2 playoff wins in 15 years. TWO!

COWHER PERFECT SITUATION:

TOTAL CONTROL IN PERSONEL DECISIONS AND A 5YR $6 MILLION A YEAR GUARANTEED MONEY CONTRACT. tHAT WAY HE GETS ALL $30 MILLION WHETHER HE LASTS THE CONTRACT OR NOT.

DO THESE TWO THINGS AND TEAM WILL LAND COWHER!

OH YEAH, WE STILL HAVE IRELAND CALLING PERSONEL SHOTS.

TONY DUNGY? WHY NOT LIST JESUS CHRIST, IT AINT HAPPENING!

IF TEBOW WINS THE SB THIS YEAR. THERE'S A VERY GOOD CHANCE DUNGY COULD BE ON THE WAY!


about 20 more but im tired and not gonna list them. just proved u wrong though. im out fellas

Posted by: dusty bottoms | December 14, 2011 at 12:36 AM


Uh...............ummmmmmmmm...........uh.......

How do you prove Humor wrong?

I guess if you HAVE no sense of humor you would.......ah.........ummmmmm........wait! I got it! I understand NOW!

Never mind Dusty......... you proved me wrong, I can live with that(snicker, snicker).

Sheesh!!!!

Renvez,

NICE POST!

Hey dusty, does a favour and shut the f*ck up about Irealnd. We get that you don't like him...OK? If Ross is to be believed, Ireland is sticking around. Not sure why we have to listen to 'Ireland sucks', 'Ireland is terrible', every single friggin' day of the weel.....we got it....thanks. Crystal clear how you feel. How about giving us something concrete for a change.

All the guys you metion are fine, Armando. I honestly don't know enough about Chudzinski, so I think as you've said he's a bit of longshot. I'm not sold on Rob Ryan either. Fine as a DC, but not as good a coach as his brother.

The names I would add that Armando hasn't talked about, that I think will get some consideration are Mangini, Nolan and Kirk Lafrentz. I also think if Dallas misses the playoffs that Jones might chop Garrett and go after Fisher. That's just my gut. In that guess, I think Garrett gets an interview too.

Rob Chudzinski was a T.E. at the Univ. of Miami under J.J. who never really panned out, great hands but slow. He came back as a graduate assistant and worked his way up through the ranks under different H.C.'s which is impressive in it's own right and the fact a lousy H.C. but Great Offensive GURU like N.Turner handed him the keys to coaching his Q.B.'s tells you plenty as well. The progression of Cam in Car. is also impressive. In my book interesting prospect who's built a solid Coaching foundation around some great minds and from Miami so helping get the team back on track should appeal to him.

Excuse me Chudzinski was the Browns OC when Turner had him Coach his T.E.'s my bad!

I think Parcells has founded his own legacy.

I predict that thanks to Parcells BLATANT premeditated Robbery of Ross, Owners will now start to tightly limit guaranteed contracts for Vice Presidents/Gm and Coaches.

If they do indict.....Oops, I mean induct Parcells into the Hall of Sham.......I mean Fame. I hope that his presenter points out how he set the precedents for owners to not dole out guaranteed contracts.

They can call it the Parcells rule and put two years limits on the guarantees!

The Parcellian Legacy!!!!

There is another good coach with a tie to Carl Peterson. Marty Schottenheimer. I wouldnt be against it. Think about it Mando

Wonder what it would take jesus to come out of retirement?But I do know that this team is being run by popes,swamies and snake handlers.Movie anyone?

All feeding at the miami dolphin trough

If I were Stephen Ross I would hire Eric Mangini for the following reasons:

1. He will work well with Jeff Ireland because he knows this will be his last chance, so he will HAVE to cooperate with Ireland.

2. He is more intelligent than anyone on Mando's list, and more intelligent than almost all other coaches in the NFL.

3. He is a tireless worker like Sparano.

4. Unlike Sparano, he is a GREAT game day coach. He knows x's and o's well, especially on defense.

5. He favors the 3-4, which the Dolphins currently employ.

6. His teams played hard for him, so he is a GREAT motivator.

Cowher IS not a option for miami....too dysfunctional a front office and owner..

Fisher IS a possibility but wont come cheaply, and is in my opinion overrated as a head coach

Billick IS another possible reach, just dont see him and ireland seeing eye to eye over personal decisions

Gruden=see cowher comment above


That pretty much leaves us with college coaches....hey it worked for Harbaugh in san fran...Which also will require convincing(a lot of) and $$$!!!

Count me in for Chud the Stud!!

Can't wait for our stud qb. Come on Baylor!

The Dolphins job should be a plum gig. With Ross, it is a disaster. I don’t see Jeff Fisher or Jon Gruden agreeing to work for him. And remember when big-name assistants like Sean Payton and Ken Whisenhunt were turning down the Raiders gig because it was a dead-end job under Al Davis? If I was a hot assistant, why would I trust Ross and Peterson while asking to knock skulls with Bill Belichick and the Patriots and Rex Ryan and the Jets twice a year? It’s a dead-end gig.

A clip from FOX Sports, kinda narrows it down does'nt it..

Mando, from your list of possibilities, I find two very interesting, Chudzinsky and Kelly. doubt they will end up here, to risky of a move for this owner. Another name with no HC experience Russ grimm, from the Cowher tree, also another interesting candidate. You should got to Fox Sports and read the article regarding the Coaching search for the Dolphins.

Cowher stated he isn't interested. The jaw that walks like a man is done. I hope Ross lets it go. I wouldn't even interview him. Just bad karma and the Phins just got through with and ego called Parcells.

Jeff Fisher would be OK.

College coaches are always a question mark on the jump to the NFL.

John Gruden is overrated. Once again too much ego.

Brian Billick, I like. Never mind that the Dolphins beat them Billick believed his defense would stop the Phins and didn't. He made a call and it proved that it didn't work. But we all make a call. He would be my top choice

Playoff ready teams that fire their next coach include San Francisco last year, possibly Indianapolis, Philadelphia, San Diego and Dallas this year.

Odinesye you must stop drinking while on the blog.

ODEN DRUNK ALL THE TIME.
( BUFFET OF HAPPY HOUR 24/7)

Someone tell me how often the superstar coach with final say over everything has worked out - led to a championship.

Waitng...

Chip Kelly?

TONY DUNGY-

HE BUILT THE SUPER BOWL TEAM THAT GRUDEN WON WITH THEN WENT TO INDY AND BUILT ANOTHER SUPERBOWL TEAM.

THE GUYS FROM HIS COACHING TREE ALL MADE THE PLAYOFFS.

HE MIGHT HAVE HAD 3 LOSING SEASONS IN 15 YEARS.

OH YEAH YAW IN THE THE SOUTH MANE.

JUST SAY NO TO BLACK PEOPLE RUNNING ANYTHANG.

YESTERDAY GONE:

YOUR ARGUMENT IS IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN?

THEN YOU WANT TO INSULT MY LORD FOR NO REASON AT ALL.

I HOPE HE FORGIVE YOU AND YOU CAN SOME DAY FIND PEACE.

I ALSO HOPE YOU CHOOSE YOUR WORDS BETTER TO GET YOUR POINT ACROSS.

I HAVE BEEN WHERE YOU ARE BUT I FOUND PEACE TRUE JOY AND A BETTER MIND SET.

AS FAR A DUNGY HE IS BY FAR A BETTER COACH THAN EVERYONE ARMANDO NAMED.

Sadly Dungy will never coach again, agree he built some great teams. But that ship sailed, no reason to argue over Dungy, he is not going to coach...

With Ireland Here it all leads to a Dead end....for any Coach....

It was by no means certain that the Ravens would score from the one yard line.Billick would have been pilloried he gone for it and failed.

the clue is that ross kept ireland. with this in mind i believe they have already reached out to someone (in secrecy) who doesnt mind working with goofball ireland. we know that cowher and gruden would not. guys like billick and fisher would agree so that they could get back to the NFL. imo,we have a verbal committment already in hand but cant officially sign/announce till the seasons over. ireland/ross have to go! boycott?

Yawn

None of the choices work for me, look for some boring football until we get rid of Ross. I envision a coaching turnover rate of one per year. All the advice Ross is getting is from people who don't have successful track records in the NFL.

Ross wants to win now, so trading away ten draft picks and our defensive line for Peyton Manning is in play.

I hate stupid.

What makes everyone think that Ross won't dump Ireland if a big name agrees to take the job ?

If Ireland was the only thing standing in the way of Cowher taking the job he would be gone faster than Grandpa's fudge on Christmas day.

Hi Armando,
Just one point - success or failure of any organization styarts at the top , and this guy Ross is starting to look like another Bill Bidwill or William Clay Ford.

Ross undermining his coaching search by putting conditions on degree of control prior to even beginnning. You can always say no at the bargaining table later, so why ,WHY WHY eliminate potentially desirable candidates with a pre-condition that you reserve the right to anyway? This guy just strikes me as dumb as a rock and given his fiasco with Harbaugh last year - he is not learning either. He is poison and that has got to be on the NFL grapevine. Until Ross goes, I would expect a 99% chance of cloudy skies and near a 100% chance of sucking. Bob Karaft has got to be giggling with hysterics at the @ss clown running this once great franchise.


BTW - Billick knows everything about everything and he will let you know that too. No wonder you've got a man crush on the idea of him as next coach. Its a perfect fit- you know nothing. And like Ross, you both suck at what you do. Merry Christmas

If you read the article on FOX Sports, it basically breaks it down (Dolphins situation), and summs it up with Ross being the actual problem with landing a quality coach, Ireland is just a little frosting on the cake of idiots.

Shipmates,
It is obvious that by Mr. Ross keeping Ireland they already know who the next coach will be. Eric Mangini is in the same click and will be the next Miami Dolphins HC. Don't look any further...

ross is very dumb but very rich, he will have to overpay to get someone good here and thats fine. but please get rid of the mentally challenged ireland

hilarious mangini has zero shot at the head coaching job, zero

I WOULD LIKE MARTY SCHOTT AS WELL OR MAYBE THE SON, AND I DO AGREE I DON'T THINK COWHER WOULD COME TO THE DOLPHINS NO MATTER WHAT DEAL ROSS PUTS OUT THERE, BILLICK MAY BE THE BEST CHOICE OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD COME HERE, IT WILL BE INTERESTING HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A GOOD QB AND THIS WILL THE NEXT COACH BETTER FROM THE START, THIS REALLY HAS BEEN OUR PROBLEM FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS OR SO EXCEPT FOR THE YEAR PENNINGTON WAS HERE AND HAD A 96 QB RATING I BELIEVE AND WE WENT TO THE PLAYOFFS I DO LIKE MOORE AND THINK HE SHOULD BE BACK NEXT YEAR BUT WE DO NEED TO LOAD UP ON THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION ON THE FIELD, AND HOPEFULLY THE NEXT COACH WILL BE ABLE TO BUILD GOOD O LINE WHICH WILL HELP EVERYTHING, I KNOW WE HAD SOME INJURIES LAST GAME BUT WE GOT RUN OVER BY A SMALLER D LINE IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED.

The Dolphins fired the wrong guy. They should have kept Sparano and fired Ireland.

I don't love any of those guys as an option. Jeff Fischer though would be my first choice. He's established but not going to be complacecent.

I'll never understand this non stop Cowher talk. The guy hasn't interviewed for one single HC opening in years. Is that golden opportunity he has been holding out for this team? Hardly.

Everyone's overlooking Mike Nolan. I know he choked as Head Coach of San Fran, and we obviously want to keep him at Defensive Coordinator, but sooner or later someone's going to give him a shot at being a Head Coach again and Miami might lose him anyway. If you don't consider him you run the risk of pissing him off. Everybody deserves a second chance. At least he wasn't strangling dogs

problem is I don't think i would be excited by any of those coaches you just listed.

no way on nolan, hope he leaves. good riddens

Many unreal expectations abound. Some of you think some star coach will walk in here and bring a championship in 3 years. Ain't going to happen.

what about new orleans carmichael?

Anyone calling Ross a moron is probably one himself. Ross is a self made multi billionaire. he's not stupid. And its his team. he can do what he wants. I trust he'll find a good coach to lead this team.

devils just looking for a start. how bout a winning season, is that so much to ask

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