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GasPrices.com sold for $225K at Moniker's domain name auction

More than $2.5 million in domain names were bought during Moniker's T.R.A.F.F.I.C. East live auction last week in Orlando. The Pompano Beach domain-name registrar sold 105 domain names during the four-hour event.

One of the top-selling names was GasPrices.com at $225,000. Other top sells included:

  • Insurancerates.com for $225,000
  • Rainbow.com for $170,000
  • Athlete.com for $122,000
  • ow.com for $120,000
  • Ringtones.org for $120,000
  • Track.com for $92,500
  • Computerparts.com for $80,000
  • Grass.com for $70,000

I didn't attend the Orlando auction, but I have been to Moniker's previous auctions in Hollywood. The Orlando auction seems pretty tame in comparison.

In October 2007, Computer.com went for $2.2 million in Hollywood. At Hollywood's 2006 auction, Cameras.com sold for $1.5 million and bidders spent more than $4.7 million in total.

To see a full list of all the purchases at the Orlando auction go here: Results for T.R.A.F.F.I.C. East in Orlando

Investors ready to cash in on Cuba domain names

Domain name investors are really rooting for Cuba to open up for American business. Many have been holding on to names like CubanCigars.com and CubanHotels.com for years, hoping they can turn the names into a business. One investor in Massachusetts owns about 2,200 names, which you can see here: HavanaDomains.com -- but most of those are names that are very similar to one another.

You can read more about it in my story today: Investors poised to cash in on Cuba domain names

In my story I talk about how Oscar Estevez, an attorney in Miami, is trying to sell PostCastroCuba.com because he doesn't have the time to develop it to its full potential. He taught himself Microsoft FrontPage to build what you see on the site, but said he just let it sit after that. If you're interested in buying it, you can contact him at postcastrocuba@msn.com.

Domain name firm Moniker acquired by Oversee.net

Pompano Beach-based Moniker, a domain name services firm, announced Thursday that it has been acquired by Los Angeles-based Oversee.net, an online marketing company.

Financial details were not disclosed, but Moniker will continue to be run out of Pompano Beach and keep its chief executive and founder, Monte Cahn.

According to Moniker, Cahn has agreed to a "multi-year commitment'' with Oversee by running Moniker and having an role with executive matters at Oversee.

Moniker's services include domain name registration, domain asset management and it hosts live and online domain name auctions.

Founded in 2000, Oversee acquired domain name auction firm SnapNames in June. SnapNames was also founded in 2000 and sells domain names that are expired or about to be deleted.

With both Moniker and SnapNames under its belt, Oversee said it expects to become a top firm in the domain name secondary-ownership market.

With the merger, domain auctions will be managed by Moniker, with the use of SnapNames Live technology, according to a press release.

Although the Internet domain name business is young, it is projected to be worth close to $2 billion, according to Cahn.

Here's a video of Cahn talking about Moniker, taken at the Affiliate Summit Conference:


TRAFFIC -- Local dot coms and ccTLDs

Update from the T.R.A.F.F.I.C. Conference in Hollywood...

Seminar topic: The relation between local search, .com and ccTLD.

Panelists discussed the advantages of getting extremely local domain names and getting involved in ccTLDs (which are other domain names for countries like .co.uk or .de, for example). Here are some highlights from the discussion:

David Castello of Castello Cities Internet Network said, "There’s nothing more exciting than finding gold in your backyard." He talked about PalmSprings.com where there was an advantage to get to know the local advertisers: "You can talk to these people, you can sell these people. It’s pretty old school in a way."


Michael Castello added that "on a local level, we realized that when you mind into those areas, they are more of a captive audience."


Adam Dicker of DNForum.com also supported that view, suggesting that people not only register a city, but to put a city and an industry together like OrlandoFlorists or OrlandoComputers.


"And no one knows your city more than you do, and you can hit those suburbs," Dicker said. Sure it won't bring in millions when it is sold, and it won't bring in a lot for PPC because it's a small niche site, but it a small business will easily pay a couple thousand if it is an important name for their brand. "I’ve sold about three or four of them in the last week or two."


Liesbeth Mack-DeBoer, vice president of sales for Europe and Asia for Sedo.com, said it is worth looking into investing in a domain for another country. But what makes it a strong ccTLD is that it should be a name that has a strong identification with its population and has a high number of registrations. Examples include Germans with .de, Spanish with .es and the French with .fr.

TRAFFIC -- PPC and parterning up

Update from the T.R.A.F.F.I.C. Conference in Hollywood...

Seminar topic: Are domain owners too dependent on parked pages? Will lack of transparency doom PPC as a long term solution? How do you choose which name to develop first? Is it time to partner up?


Here are a few highlights of answers given by the panel:


Ari Bayme, managing director of Modern Capital, spoke about the benefits of working with a company to park a site and get money from pay-per-click advertising.


"What I like about PPC is that it provides the closest thing to a benchmark" for revenue figures, Bayme said. And using a parking company "will give you a lot of good ideas as to what areas you want to develop on that domain."


He gave the example of Healthcare.com's owner, which assumed that it would be best served with links to pharmaceutical advertisers. But once it was with a parked company, it soon became apparent that it was more popular with advertising of healthcare jobs.


"The best thing about PPC is that it lets you know you have a relatively steady stream of income," Bayme said. "The best thing about PPC is that you can always go back to it and keep collecting your monthly checks."


He also told the audience that don't believe just because you develop a couple of domains you'll make money. Yes, it is true that a developed domain name will make more money and it will be more valuable, but it doesn't mean it will sell for a lot.


David Castello and Michael Castello of Castello Cities Internet Network have been very successful with sites like PalmSprings.com and the recently redesigned Cost.com.


"Whenever you partner with someone, it’s more than money," David Castello said. "There has to be a chemistry."


"We have a lot of opportunities because of the names that we have," Michael Castello said. "Domain owners with good quality names have the options."


"You’re navigating this new wild west," David Castello said, adding,  "In a lot of ways your kind of alone out there. Networking is the way to move above any level you’ve come in at."


"The No. 1 rule I have ... what does the visitor want to see on that site? It’s pretty much what I want to see on that site," Michael Castello said. "Cost.com is a big name. It’s probably bigger than what we can handle at this point."


Michael asked the audience to consider: "Are you thinking short term or are you thinking long term? If you want to flip some names, that’s fine. In this game don’t think you have to go to the big guys to deal with this business."


Michael Gilmour, author of Whizzbangsblog.com, said the No. 1 issue for domainers is a lack of transparency in working with parking companies. The general feeling he said is: "Parking companies are paying great, great support, but gee I just don’t trust them."


The problem is largely due to the fact that numbers and worth of domain names are hard to prove, and there are no standards in measuring those values, he said.


"It’s very easy to develop a domain, Gilmour said. "It’s very hard to build out a business."


Dr. Christopher Hartnett, retired CEO and founder of USA Global Link, touched on the transparency issue and said, "eventually people will demand transparency" and that the current way parked companies do business will not last for long. And he suggested to the audience that the group at this conference come together to push for a code of conduct for domain names that is backed by an organization like the ICA (Internet Commerce Association). That would help break down the problems of being associated as a cybersquatter.


Jonathan Boswell, CEO of LeaseThis.com, touched on when to partner with someone.


"Do you do what you’re looking to develop a domain for? If you’re not, then you should partner," Boswell said. His example was if you are a real estate broker, it makes sense to develop that yourself. But if you are owner of a domain name of a topic you don't know much about, then it is good to partner with someone who is familiar with that subject.

TRAFFIC -- Greatest challenges in the industry

The panel from the first seminar on the industry was asked what are the greatest challenges are for the future of the industry. Pretty much everyone's answers touched on changing the perceptions of being cybersquatters and working more as an industry to have better organizations that can represent their image and lobby for their needs. Here are some highlights of the answers:


Jonathan Boswell, CEO of LeaseThis.com: "A big issue is getting the entire industry to work together. One of the big [reasons] that corporations have held back from going in the space is that it is so fragmented."


Leland Hardy of NewYork.com: "The reluctance to embrace the industry is the frustration from users of landing" on a site filled with ad links.


Owen Frager, CEO of The Frager Factor: "The perception of being cybersquatters is going to stand in the way." He later added, "I urge everybody to join in this ICA (Internet Commerce Association) as I have."


Peter Labson, senior vice president and general manager of Domain Marketplace for NameMedia.com: "There is just a fraction of the world ... aware of this as an industry."

TRAFFIC -- State of the domain name industry

Update from the T.R.A.F.F.I.C. conference in Hollywood...


Some thoughts from the seminar "The industry yesterday, today and tomorrow"


Matt Bentley, Chief Strategy Office at Sedo, spoke on the advertising trends in domain names. People see the domain name industry as branding, assets, real estate... but we are increasingly realizing it is more an advertising industry.


"There are more domains registered than every before," Bentley said. But corporate advertisers are not jumping to put links of parked domain names, and that's because advertisers don't fully understand how domain traffic works, he said.


He said a way to support advertisers is to use things like policies and controls and "supporting companies that are doing this to have a longer term sustainable industry."


Jonathan Boswell, CEO of LeaseThis.com said more and more advertisers are becoming aware of the domain channel, but there have been disconnects in understanding the benefits. The biggest disconnect is the issue of branding.


"Kleenex never wants to be known as tissue," Boswell said of Kleenex buying tissue.com. But he tells companies, "It's not about branding a generic. It's about owning the words that are associated with your brand." And that's when it makes sense to advertisers, he said.


Also, his company does not even refer to domain names as domain names when speaking with advertisers. "We say domain assets," he said. "They get that, they understand that."


When Boswell and his company talks to corporations, "We’ve been really helping them understand that domains are key to helping them understand their growth.," he said. If you want to really grow in your branding opportunities ... domains are going to be key to that."


Adam Dicker, president of DNForum.com, talked about the future being in development of sites.


"We tend as a domainer to constantly be buying and looking for domains and bargains," he said, and never build out the sites they buy. "We need to focus more and build those one or two domains."


A parked page is not going to sold for $50 million dollars, he said. But if these parked pages partner with a good company and put up good content it will be worth more.


"I personally feel when I sell a domain, it’s like giving up a child for adoption," Dicker said. He suggested that there needs to be a better system to evaluate the worth of domain names. He also said that it's important to realize every domain name has a value to somebody -- even Zzzp.com, which someone offering him $1,000 to sell, he said.


Owen Frager, CEO of The Frager Factor, said the most valuable domains are when brands use generics in their marketing.


"Domains, like life, are either memorable or forgotten," Frager said. He brought up the example of the commercials for Nowwhat.com, which is a site for State Farm Insurance.


"If that was commercial for State Farm with State Farm's website on it, they would never go to that website," Frager said. He added, "domain names that may seem like worth less to us because they have more words in them … but look at freecreditreport.com."


Sporting a  a white fedora is Leland Hardy of NewYork.com, who talked about the success of building NewYork.com with quality content.


"As the shorter domain names are taken ... longer names will have increasing value," Hardy said. He said he has noticed increasing trend of what he calls "intuitive domain names" -- something like Handmadedesktopcomputers.com, where it is clear to the consumer what is being sold there.


Ammar Kubba, CEO of TrafficZ.com, said a big challenge is that "People label us as domain squatters and just generally don't have good things to say."


"One of the things we really need to do is educate people and get more involved in the industry groups that are trying to promote our good will and reputations," Kubba added.


One solution he proposed is to advocate more transparency in the industry and with partners to not seem shady.


Peter Lamson, senior vice president and general manager of domain marketplace for NameMedia.com, said the domain name buyers should focus on the huge demand for local niches that small businesses will want as a branding vehicle.


An example he gave was HollywoodLandscaper.com. It might not be very valuable to some people, but a landscaper in the city of Hollywood is going to pay a few thousand for it because it is of high value to them.


Dan Warner, COO of Fabulous.com, encouraged the audience to stop thinking about traffic as the defining measure of if a site is valuable.


Why does Fabulous.com have value? Because it is a brand name, he said. "People have become hooked on the heroin, the crack, of traffic. Traffic is good… but it’s not necessarily the best way to think about your assets and where they stand."


"You have to think about the nature of what you’re actually selling," he said.

Blogging from TRAFFIC East 2007 Conference

Today I'll be attending the seminars and panels at the T.R.A.F.F.I.C. Domain Conference & Expo at the Westin Diplomat Hotel in Hollywood. CEOs of top domain names will be discussing issues in the industry. Seminar topics include:

  • The industry yesterday, today and tomorrow
  • Are domain owners too dependent on parked pages?
  • The future of pay-per-click
  • Growing advertising money in local markets in the U.S. and abroad

Throughout the day I'll be blogging on the seminar, so be sure to come back to read the updates of what these industry leaders have to say.

Domain names for sale in Hollywood

The T.R.A.F.F.I.C. East 2007 conference is coming to Hollywood on Oct. 12. The conference includes a domain name auction run by Pompano Beach-based Moniker. I attended last year's in Hollywood and it got pretty interesting. Some of the biggest buys were for .mobi domain names: Wow.mobi sold for $9,000 and Gossip.mobi sold for $5,000. Flowers.mobi went for a whopping $200,000 to Rick Schwartz, chief executive of T.R.A.F.F.I.C. The highest bid was $1.5 million for Cameras.com. Of course all these sites are just making money from ad links they dump on the page.

UPDATE @ 5:04 p.m.: Here's Moniker's list of domain names and prices for this auction. Andrew Johnson's Web Publishing Blog also wrote about the upcoming auction, and he said the auction in New York saw many bids rejected.

Here's a list of some of the domains available at next month's auction:

  • AIDS.net
  • Audit.net
  • AutoFinancing.com
  • Buy.mobi
  • Cash.mobi
  • CertifiedPublicAccountants.com
  • ChocolateCandy.com
  • Cholesterol.net
  • Communication.com
  • Computer.com
  • Copiers.com
  • Cotton.com
  • Cowboys.com
  • CrosswordPuzzles.com
  • CysticFibrosis.org
  • Debit.com
  • Dentists.net
  • DiscountAirFares.net
  • Elections.com
  • Email.mobi
  • Estate.com
  • EuropeanVacations.com
  • Free.mobi
  • FreeMovies.net
  • GasPrices.com
  • HomeBudget.com
  • House.net
  • Invest.net
  • LibertyBell.com
  • Manufacture.com
  • MartialArts.com
  • MortgageRates.org
  • Newlyweds.com
  • News.mobi
  • PDA.mobi
  • PensionPlan.com
  • Pesos.com
  • Photographers.com
  • Podcast.mobi
  • Podiatrists.com
  • PrimeInterestRate.com
  • Promotion.com
  • SchoolTeacher.com
  • ScienceFiction.com
  • Scores.mobi
  • Software.info
  • SpaghettiSauce.com
  • SportingGoods.com
  • StockQuotes.com
  • Taxes.com
  • Technology.org
  • WallStreet.com

I think it'll be interesting to see how they price Elections.com. Last year they were asking more than $2 million and there were no takers. Now with election season upon us, will the price go up? Or will it be lowered since no one wanted it last time?

Below is the rest of the press release on T.R.A.F.F.I.C.:

Pompano Beach, Fla. – Coming off the huge success of its live and silent auctions at T.R.A.F.F.I.C. NYC which collectively generated more than $12 million in domain sales, Moniker.com, the first and only provider of Domain Asset Management™, announced today that its next live domain auction will be held at T.R.A.F.F.I.C. East 2007 in Hollywood at the Westin Diplomat Resort on October 12, 2007 at 2 p.m.

Presented by the World Association of Domain Name Developers, Inc. (WADND), T.R.A.F.F.I.C. is the domain industry’s signature conference series. Steve Forbes, CEO of Forbes, Editor-in-Chief of Forbes Magazine and former presidential candidate, will keynote T.R.A.F.F.I.C. East 2007 in Hollywood, Florida.

“The success of the live auctions is proof that the premium domain market will continue to grow and that businesses understand the importance of premium domains to their business,” said Monte Cahn, co-founder and CEO of Moniker. “To be competitive, business leaders must develop a robust strategy when it comes to utilizing their domain names. The better businesses tend to own great domains that are developed in a way that helps brand the company as an industry leader and optimize the amount of traffic they drive to their sites. T.R.A.F.F.I.C. East gives businesses the chance to bulk up their portfolios, tackle their business needs and dominate their industries.”

Registered attendees of T.R.A.F.F.I.C. East 2007 are automatically eligible to take part in the live bidding. Single-day access to the event is also available. The event runs October 9-13, 2007 and is by invitation only. To request an invitation and to learn more about the conference, visit http://www.targetedtraffic.com/

Moniker will also be offering absentee, telephone proxy and online bidding for individuals who are unable to attend the event. Those interested in learning more about this process should visit http://marketplacepro.moniker.com/auction/detail.html?auction_id=181   

Silent Auction Held Simultaneously with Live Event
Moniker will also hold a silent auction in conjunction with the live auction in Hollywood Beach with thousands of additional names on which to bid. The Silent auction will run online beginning Friday, October 12 and ending Thursday, October 18.

The silent auction gives individuals additional opportunities to purchase domain names that will in turn help their businesses grow, as well as build their portfolio.

“Our auction at T.R.A.F.F.I.C. has become the place to go for those who are looking to expand their businesses and their portfolios in the premium domain market,” said Monte Cahn. “By running the Silent Auction in conjunction with the live auction, we are allowing people to participate in the purchasing of great domain names directly from their computers at home.”

Domain Financing on Site and After
Moniker along with its partner Domain Capital, will offer domain financing to leverage domain purchases made at this event or for other transactions. Moniker and Domain Capital have been pioneering the same concept for virtual real-estate for years in a fashion similar to real estate mortgage financing.

Listen Live on Webmaster Radio
The Live auction will also be broadcast live on Webmaster Radio.FM. Tune in by visiting http://www.webmasterradio.fm/. WebmasterRadio is the premier free online radio network focused on the B2B marketplace. During the auction, listeners will be able to join the chat room and connect with peers in real time.

 
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