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Feely under microscope because of his mouth

I told you yesterday I was working on a Jay Feely column for the newspaper.

Well, the interesting column is up on the website.

So why is a column on Miami's kicker interesting?

Couple of reasons. First, Jay Feely is much more than just a kicker. He sees himself as something of a team leader, as a locker room spokesman and perspective guy, and as a valuable player.

One cannot argue the valuable player thing. Check out the 2007 NFL stats for field goal kicking and they reveal Feely was among the league's best. But that is not the reason he's under the microscope with the Dolphins.

Seems that his kickoff average is a concern and his average for the number of interviews and times he speaks out is a bigger concern for the team. The Dolphins want the guy to "keek ball, get check," and that's it. (Peronally, it was a shock for me to learn Fidel freakin' Castro resides at the Dolphins training facility.)

I asked Feely outright on Sunday if he had been told by the new administration to basically zip it with the media. I knew the answer already but wanted to hear it from him. Feely was straight with me. He said, "Yes..."

Amazing. But not unique.

I've covered a lot of players and teams that were at odds over how the players dealt with the media and how the team wanted them to deal with the media. Trace Armstrong, who I consider a friend, was forever under the gun when Jimmy Johnson became coach because ... well, because Armstrong had a mind.

Don Shula tolerated Mark Clayton because the receiver was outstanding. But the minute Clayton lost a step, Shula ushered him out and brought in Irving Fryar because Clayton's mouth was a pain for the coach.

I compare Feely's situation to that of Armstrong. The problem Feely encounters is a kicker is a lot easier to replace than a pass-rushing savant, which Armstrong was for a few years.

Anyway, the whole scenario raises a couple of questions.

1. Can Feely stop being himself to save his job?

I imagine a guy that bright feels like he's got a lot to add. But a guy that bright also has to realize it is better to be employed than not. So I assume he will try to dial back on his public opinions and spokesmanship. It won't be easy for him.

Example: Team brass noticed that Feely was the only player who asked a question of Ari Fleischer Sunday after the former White House Press Secretary finished a 45-minute presentation on how to deal with the media.

It's not a bad thing that Feely asked a question, in my opinion. But apparently there were eyebrows raised among Miami brass that Feely felt compelled to step up despite previously being told to step back.

The question apparently didn't help Feely, either. He asked how to he might go about defending the organization on issues he might not agree with.

"What I told Jay was, and I get that question a lot," Fleischer said, "is I worked for three congressmen, one senator and one president. They ran on their issues. I'm a staffer. I cannot possibly agree with 100 percent of what they espouse ..."

Fleischer apparently put it in terms Feely, who is interested in politics, could relate with. He compared the player's situation with a political party member that doesn't buy into every plank of his party's platform.

"... You don't have to believe every single thing your party stands for," Fleischer said. "But you have to believe in your party and your people ..."

The second issue raised by this situation is what the Dolphins do in picking a kicker. Do they go with the best player, with no regard for how/when/why that player talks to the media? Or do they allow those factors to have bearing on the decision?

Feely expects to make Miami's decision a difficult one. He told me he expected to be the NFL's best kicker this year.

So what do you think will happen?

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Kickers are not trade bait. If they are not going to make the team, more often than not they are cut.

As for the Punter/Kicker Idea, Atlanta tried that either last year, or the year before. The guy was supposed to be a Phenom. Four straight missed field goals later, they had Morten Anderson back. The leg motion, and musculature used for each type of kicking is different. The only way you can pull that off is with a guy that was trained to do both from the start.

Hey are sure about that DolphinsFan because I remember reading it just like that

dose it matter anyway zip it shut up its the same thing to point was to be quiet and not talk to the media which he did not once but three times in less than two days

I'm not sure that is what Parcell wanted

Care to clear it up Armando?

Go Phins

I meant

Hey are you sure about that DolphinsFan because I remember reading it just like that

dose it matter anyway zip it, shut up its the same thing the point was to be quiet and not talk to the media which he did not do once but three times (that i know 4 sure could be more) in less than two days

I'm not sure that is what Parcell wanted

Care to clear it up Armando?

Go Phins

I agree with the new regime, shut the F up!

Parcells is a very small man. Sad.

I've had respect for Jay Feely ever since he spoke out about the NY Giants mess in Tiki's last year when Tiki and Jeremy Shockey were out of line talking about the Giants being outcoached, publicly criticizing Eli, etc.

"That's why I think we teetered on that brink. We going through training camp and we have guys every day look like they were trying to get the limelight on themselves and saying something controversial, calling coach an 'ass' and doing things like that. It doesn't help you fostering that environment. I mean, you don't hear that coming out of the Patriots. You hear Tom Brady say, 'Our players need to listen to our coach more.' I think we needed a little bit more of that.'

HAHA! I am SOOOOOO taking Jay's job!! Mando, when do I get my interview? I'm ready for my closeup!

Unless one is obviously better than the other we should keep both. We need the FGs and we need the field position. Most kickers do not specialize in both. They are better at one than the other.

There are 53 positions and if there are spots left over for special teams guys(there are) then 2 of them should be for the kickers.

LOL dan that was a classic and I'm surprised someone didnt beat you to the punch.

This is Jay Feelys grandmother. I am highly upset in my community that Jay will be discourageed from publicly complaining. So what if he can't kick off past the ten yard line! So what if he bad mouthed a running back that once led the league in rushing with over 1800 yards! So what if Cam Cameron didn't trust his leg to the point where he pooch kicked more than boom kicked? Leave my grandson alone!

FinFan in Orlando...do you not get what sensationalism is?

Mando's version: "I asked Feely outright on Sunday if he had been told by the new administration to basically zip it with the media. I knew the answer already but wanted to hear it from him. Feely was straight with me. He said, "Yes..."

Feely's version: "You asked me if they asked me to not do as much media work and I said 'yes, and I was willing to do that."

Don't you get it? The WORDING and TONE are totally different. Even if they are saying the same things. If you don't understand this...then you are not as savy as you think you are. There are ways to put things where people will follow you...and ways to say the same exact thing and start an argument.

If Mando asked Feely was told not to do as much "media work" and then posts in his blog that he asks if he was "told to zip it" or "shut up"...then he is trying to over dramatize the situation for affect.

And "zip it" is a polite way of saying "shut up". Some of you don't seem to understand that...and probably because you've never been parents!

I wonder if one of the reasons Parcells doesn't like that Feely speaks out...is because some of his "media work" was directed at Ricky...who the Tuna likes and wants on this team?

Whatever your opinion on whether there is sensationalism or not (for the record I think not) we should all agree on this:

Armando consistently has the inside information. It is not in question that Parcells told Feely to get off the media bandwagon. I have not read that anywhere but here. No one else had even written Feely was in danger and had to compete until Armando wrote it.

The espn column on JT that I posted before and was criticized for only confirmed what AS wrote about JT for months beforehand. So quibble with the tone if you want, and disagree with the guy as I do sometimes, but the bottom line is the best Dolphins information is here. That's how I see it.

Just saw JinVa's post and it is funny. Even though he quibbles with Armando about the tone, as I said, he accepts the bottom line point that Armando made which is Parcells doesn't want Feely out there in the media so much.

Got an answer for that JinVa?

You criticize the guy, but you happily use the information you got no other place than from AS to make a point...

I have season tickets to the University of Montana and watched Carpenter kick for the past four years. Not only has he grown stronger as a kicker, he is also a good athlete that has run and thrown touchdowns in fake field goal situations. He also had to handle much of the punting duties his junior year when the starter was injured early in the season. He brings alot more than just booming kickoffs.

I think some of you are forgetting that unless things are much different than before we won't be kicking off after many touchdowns. I remember games where Mare was the only one to score and we still won (credit to defense and running game aswell). We need whoever is going to make those field goals because thats how we score points, but what better way to figure out who that is then with a 2 month long competition

Finheaven, Your logic seems flawed. Mando is the only guy reporting this, so it HAS to be the truth, and not sensationalism? How did that work out with the whole JT/Parcells "first meeting" thing? He was the only one reporting there, too. All other reports from other sources were based on Mando's report. If one, and only one reporter reports something isn't sensationalism, what is your definition?

Hey, Jin. Long time, no see. Good to have you back.

Tree, Mando's report on the Parcells-JT first meeting, if I remember correctly, was that Parcells ignored JT. Both Parcells and JT have now said it happened. JT said it at his press conference and Parcells said it happened then gave a million bogus excuses why it happened. So Mando was correct. What you're point?

I need a life. I need to get off this addictive blog.

Wait a minute, Mando said he was ignored. Parcells said he didn't see him. You can't ignore someone you don't see. Mando reported that JT was slighted, and upset over the whole deal, JT said he wasn't upset by it, and it was never as big a deal as the Press(RE: Mando) made it out to be. So both sides said it was blown out of proportion (RE: Sensationalized). Should we then still believe the one person who THREE DIFFERENT people (Parcells, JT, and Jay Feely) have said blew the situations out of proportion? I enjoy this blog, and there are times when Mando's reports are spot on, but he will sensationalize minor stories to drum up business. It is an industry norm, and no amount of complaint from those reported, or those reading the reports will change that. As long as people believe the words of the press as sacrosanct, nothing will change.

The funny thing here is you think Armando is sensationalizing to drum up business. I think JT, Feely, and Parcells are playing things down because it suits their agendas, which are keeping things quiet so we think everything is fine.

Parcells said he didn't see JT to one media outlet and said he didn't hear JT to another. So a 6-6, 250 pound guy walks in a room and this guy is oblivious? Are your freaking kidding me? Nobody believes that, least of all me.

Meanwhile, JT first denied anything had ever happened with Parcells, then on his blog said he and Parcells were fine, then at the press conference admitted the incident happened but that he didn't want to get into it. He never said it was blown out of proportion. That was Parcells who said that.

My point is JT still isn't in camp, the Dolphins have tried to trade him when Parcells said they wouldn't, he did ask for a trade even though he lied and said he didn't, he didn't show up after dancing with the stars as he said he would, I don't believe Parcells is deaf and blind, Feely has been told to lay off media stuff, his job is on the line, and the only person who doesn't seem to give a sh!t or is worried about his precious reputation is AS.

So that's the person I'm believing.

The funny thing here is you think Armando is sensationalizing to drum up business. I think JT, Feely, and Parcells are playing things down because it suits their agendas, which are keeping things quiet so we think everything is fine.

Parcells said he didn't see JT to one media outlet and said he didn't hear JT to another. So a 6-6, 250 pound guy walks in a room and this guy is oblivious? Are your freaking kidding me? Nobody believes that, least of all me.

Meanwhile, JT first denied anything had ever happened with Parcells, then on his blog said he and Parcells were fine, then at the press conference admitted the incident happened but that he didn't want to get into it. He never said it was blown out of proportion. That was Parcells who said that.

My point is JT still isn't in camp, the Dolphins have tried to trade him when Parcells said they wouldn't, he did ask for a trade even though he lied and said he didn't, he didn't show up after dancing with the stars as he said he would, I don't believe Parcells is deaf and blind, Feely has been told to lay off media stuff, his job is on the line, and the only person who doesn't seem to give a sh!t or is worried about his precious reputation is AS.

So that's the person I'm believing.

"Don Shula tolerated Mark Clayton because the receiver was outstanding. But the minute Clayton lost a step, Shula ushered him out and brought in Irving Fryar because Clayton's mouth was a pain for the coach."

That is the stupidest thing I have ever read in my life. Once again, you have proven that you know nothing about the NFL. Pathetic.

Tree...good to see you too. I came over from a prompt on another blog. I don't come over here much anymore. I just seems like here, people are trying to stir up trouble than really talk football.

Finheaven...look...you can believe Mando if you want. The "meat" of the story is true. Feely was told not to be as public as he's been in the past. My concern is how things are presented. You can tell when you listen to Feely he's an intelligent and elouquent guy. The tone of Mando's post is sensationalized. That get's old in my opinion. Then you get fans on here, like we are, arguing and taking sides. The last thing we need is a group of fans hating the Tuna already because of "tones" by a reporter who covers the team.

It gets old. I'm over it. It's not enjoyable anymore, and this is a game. A game I love, and enjoy following. A team I've loved for 40 years now, and followed religiously.

Ask yourself this...do you think Feely will be interested in anymore interview with Mando now? Do you think Mando has people on the team who will be more loyal to him than a guy on the team who goes out to try and win games for them? I think you're supporting the wrong cause here. Yes it's great to get some inside info on how things are handled "on the inside", but I can guarantee YOU...that we still don't know enough about what's going on on the "inside" to truly form an educated opinion. We are spectators, and so is Mando...he just get's paid to get SOME of the info first and presents it to us. Sometimes I like "how" he does it...and sometimes I don't. When he does it the way I don't...we have fans taking sides and arguing over who's right and who's wrong based on a limited amount of knowledge.

And when it gets to where that's all there is...it gets old.

Finheaven, if you are talking inconsistencies, Mando isn't free of them. He left out the fact that the room JT STUCK HIS HEAD IN on (His head isn't 6'6" yet...) was full of coaches. Never reported. Parcells didn't have his hearing aids in, according to his account of the subject. WHen Mando covered that account, it wasn't reported.
Feely's version: "You asked me if they asked me to not do as much media work and I said 'yes, and I was willing to do that." Paraphrased by Mando, with the last half left off.

Mando is consistently misquoting people he interviews. How long before those he wants to interview tells him "Thanks, but no thanks, I will give the interview to someone who doesn't misrepresent me."?

Saying he doesn't give a damn about what anyone thinks of him as proof of veracity seems counterintuitive as well. It seems he cares more about gigging things up, rather than anyone thinking he is being a responsible reporter. Look, I like Mando, and this blog, for the most part, but that doesn't mean I have drunk the Kool-aid. Ask Mando, it goes about 50/50 whether I am with, or against his point of view. Mr. Bungle, and FinFan can tell you the same. I don't actually think I will change your mind on the subject, but others, on the fence on this issue can use our opinions to help define their own. That is why discussions are good. Have a nice day.

It always amazes me how really ignorant and transparent some people are. First you have a reporter that is so desperate to write articles that may bring him attention that he turns a non-story into a controversy by outright lying about what people say when they are interviewed. Mando, when you ask a player or coach to answer your questions are you not asking them to trust you, that you will report their answers as they said it? How do you sleep at night knowing you can and will twist their words to fit your own agenda. Do you not eventually run out of people who will give you the time of day? If I were a professional player I would never even stop long enough to let you get out your first word. Why? You are a slime ball that can't be trusted. Readers believe what reporters report, because they are too ignorant to realize that some of you are as dishonest as a used car salesman.

Every team Feely has played for, including the Dolphins, he has always spoke out always loyally supporting the coaches and the organization. He did it in New York when everyone was badmouthing Tom Coughlin. He defended Jim Mora Jr in Atlanta and Dan Reeves before him. Every team he has played on, every single team, the teammates thought highly enough of him that they voted him as their team rep. Last year's team (the players) voted him to be one of four team captains for the season. How many times have you ever heard of the kicker being voted by the players as team captain? Obviously he was a positive leader on those teams. The Parcells regime apparently does not want leaders. They have gotten rid of almost every one of the team captains from last year and are trying their best to get rid of JT and Feely. Why? Because they are not good players?...obviously not the case, they are all among the NFL best at their positions, (sorry Carpenter fans from Montana but your guy has never kicked a single kick or kick off in the NFL yet, so we do not know how good he really is under pressure...lots of guys look good in college and collapse under the NFL spotlight).
In the last three seasons Feely is 84%, 85% and 92% on field goals. That is money. People put down kickers as if they are not important yet typically the kicker is the highest scorer on the team, and if he is not then he is replaced. Feely does not fit the kicker stereotype, the "I keek a touchdown" type of soccer player turned kicker. He is tough, strong and physical (no kicker in the NFL has more tackles than he has) and at the same time he is intelligent and articulate. Kickers are supposed to be the "court jester" or a complete loner, but not the leader, and the current regime can't handle having a kicker that is a team leader. It doesn't mesh with their apparent predjudices.

Oh Parcells wants leaders alright. But none that are stupid kickers.

Armando, it is Bill Parcells. Good job, kid. Call me. Let's talk boxing.

I agree with Chipper and he reiterates my point that the best tackler should be the kicker on the roster.

As soon as there were hints Parcells et al was looking at kickers (rumors of Mare, Dave Rayner), Dolphins forums exploded with speculation. Why bring in another kicker? Feely was bad on kickoffs. But Cameron was so scared of special teams (after he and Mueller gutted it and neglected it) apparently Feely said he was asked to pooch it all the time.

But many speculated, and it turned out to be true, it was because of Feely's mouth. For example, he commented about Ricky returning, saying the locker room would not welcome him in. Well Parcells doesn't like star players undermining him, imagine a kicker, who Parcells feels are expendable. He's had what 4 or 5 in the few years he's in Dallas? Then he goes ahead and confirms the Jay Glazer story about the whole Traylor and Porter stuff with Cameron. Parcells was around already, you don't think he notices that? That's private team stuff, and Feely opens his mouth all the time.

Here is a thread from January:
http://www.finheaven.com/forums/f2/rumor-dolphins-to-look-into-replacing-feely-206443.html
From March:
http://forums.thephins.com/showthread.php?t=3859

Oh Parcells wants leaders alright. But none that are stupid kickers."

That is exactly the kind of prejudice and ignorant statements I am talking about. People can no handle it when someone comes along that defies all stereotypes. It is like those that can't accept O'Bama or H. Clinton as legitimate candidates for president because of being black or female.

The real issue is reporters who violate all ethical codes of journalism by creating controversy where none exists and lying through misquotes and misrepresentation. Reporters, are supposed to be the guardian of the truth through their investigation. We have far too many politicians that can look you in the eye and tell the public a bold face lie. We do not need reporters that do the same.
Jason Taylor is not only the best player of this team, but he is the face of the Dolphins, but Mando finds it useful to run over him with the bus of deception. Reporters who create the news by fabricating things that do not exist, or twisting the words of people they interview to fit their story are the worst bottom feeders in the food chain.

If you delete this post again Mando it just proves I am right on.

Chipper you are taking this Jay Feely thing way to serious if Jay Feely was the best I'm sure the new regime would love him but there not in love with him they like him and thats why he has not been cut yet but there just looking for love and again I really don't think that Armando was wrong about what he said and I don't even think that was Feely anymore so take it easy its not adam vinatieri. Feely is playing for his third team maybe forth If he was Great I'm sure he would have still been on the giants or the falcons. But they found better options or are you going to say that they didn't like a smart kicker either the point is if Feely was in the Mob he would already be dead for ratting on company business. Don't get me wrong the kid is good but he is not great and you talk about him like if he was a dolphin for life but he has only been here one year one bad year do you remember all those short kickoffs last year that were returned for touchdown a couple of them agaisnt the browns and one against the jets was the difference. Personally I'm for the best player should win the job. If feely is the best player he deserves it if not so be it we are rebuilding. So Chipper you like him because he was 91% last year on 21 of 23 that is not impressive. Impressive is Rob Bironas 35 of 39 for 90%. Really Jay Feely just did his job last year no better no worse than your average kicker. So I just don't get the Loyalty and the hate on the new regime that probably know more about this subject than this whole blog all together.

By the way Chipper I do not agree with you at all. I know you dont care but I also don't see your point why Feely is so valuble and this whole prejudice caca you are speaking. I don't even see why you are siding with players that are not even practicing but guess what I am voting for Barack Obama not because he is Black but because he is the best canditate in my opinion. Please leave the whole prejudice thing out of this blog. The comments about the staying out of the media is not just for the kicker its for the whole team but the kicker is the only one talking and not listing to what the new regime is asking the team to do. So in my opinion Feely is just proving Armando Right. If anyone is prejudice around here is probably you, since you brought it up.

By the way Chipper I do not agree with you at all. I know you dont care but I also don't see your point why Feely is so valuble and this whole prejudice cac@ you are speaking. I don't even see why you are siding with players that are not even practicing but guess what I am voting for Barack Obama not because he is Black but because he is the best canditate in my opinion. Please leave the whole prejudice thing out of this blog. The comments about the staying out of the media is not just for the kicker its for the whole team but the kicker is the only one talking and not listing to what the new regime is asking the team to do. So in my opinion Feely is just proving Armando Right. If anyone is prejudice around here is probably you, since you brought it up.

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