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Ricky's bad deal is actually much worse

If you read this blog regularly you know I've written that Ricky Williams did himself a grand disservice when he represented himself and signed a one-year contract extension 10 days or so ago.

Well, the news gets worse for Miami's running back.

It seems in agreeing and then signing this deal, which Williams did while acting as his own agent, the issue of that $8.1 million judgment the Dolphins won against Williams years ago was not touched. At all.

Ricky Williams still owes the Miami Dolphins the full $8.1 million according to a source.

So not only did Williams not get any guaranteed money in signing his extension, not only did he agree to some incentives that require him to run the ball a lot on a team on which he is sharing carries, but Williams did not convince the team to waive that long-ago perfected judgment.

Now, the Dolphins have not collected a cent from that judgment. They are not exactly hurting for the money. And they may never collect anything from it. But it is still there in its entirety hanging over Williams. If the team really wanted to play hardball, it could go after Williams for the full amount.

The only chip Williams ever had against making that $8.1 million go away was a new contract. He could have told the team that he would sign a new deal, even if it had no guaranteed money, as long as the team waived its rights to the judgment.

But Williams didn't make the case and so even though he's scheduled to make up to $5.6 million this year and next in base salary and some reachable incentives, he's still in the red.

Because he's still on the hook for that $8.1 million.

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The Dolphins would have been fools to waive that judgment. It's all good feelings right now with Ricky, but you can't forget how many times he has railroaded this organization.

Ricky Williams: Good running back. Terrible sports agent.

Armando, I hope your source is wrong and I hope that I am wrong for thinking that this is last year in Miami.

It seems unlikely the Dolphins ever pursue that money. He doesn't have it anyway, and they will never be reliant on him enough to be screwed over again. They'd essentially just be ruining a guy's post-playing life for the sake of it.

Good, Im pleased our organisation can stick it to the players for a change.....oh wait a minute they gave $6m in money to a WR they didnt even activate...... oh and wait another minute Smiley played like a little puss against the Jets with no push and he has a big bucks contract... oh well can't win em all.

In your last blog you talked about Wilford and I just wanted to say that if the guy is getting beat out in practice by an undrafted free agent and three other unproven receivers and if the guy is dropping the ball all of the time then why would they play him? How can he be relied on in a game (in front of thousands of screaming fans) if he can't even get it done in practice when they're alone and there is less pressure? Also wouldn't the jackass fans then call sparano a liar because he is not playing the people who earned it. He did say he would do that and the last coach that said that and went against it was ripped to shreds by the fans and the media. I just don't really understand why we are confused about this one. He sucks right? Isn't that what everyone has been saying? But we have to play him because he's tall? Why not just realize Dan called the wrong play and we shouldn't have been going to the corners of the endzone with the personell that was available. Anyone ever heard of a quick slant? Isn't that the play that works best when you have three speedy hands guys? Just slant them all to the middle and read the linebackers to see who gives the inside lane the most. It has to be simpler than playing a guy who hasn't earned that right.

I'm also having trouble caring about how much money Ricky is making. How many times did he screw us over 1,2 ummmm 3, 4 times? And now he got the wrong end of the deal and we're supposed to do what, feel bad? I still remember watching Sportscenter at 1:00 am that fateful night right before training camp when Ricky retired because he wanted to smoke weed more than he wanted to play football. I remember wondering if he cared about his teammates or his fans at all and obviously assumed he didn't. I was a HUGE Ricky fan and even wrote to LeBetard and tore him up for bad mouthing Williams. He wrote me back by the way and said I was wrong and I would be eating my words but Ricky almost broke two thousand yards that year and was pro bowl mvp. LeBetard turned out to be right in the end and thousands of other people and I were left in a cloud of pot smoke. What comes around gos around and yes karmas a bitch. He's going to have to earn all of our trust back before we can start feeling sorry for him.

Just becuase a player is all world in practice doesnt make it a given it will carry over to the game,and the same goes for a player who may not practice well, could be a gamer on Sunday.Problem is, Sparano is trying to build a culture that the best players will play and the only body of work to judge from is practice. That being said you have to activate Wilford next week after the performance of these practice receivers performance to see if anything I just said is the case for Wilford. I like Sporanos thought process here but, Wilford COULD be our best game day receiver for all we know.

I'm also having trouble caring about how much money Ricky is making. How many times did he screw us over 1,2 ummmm 3, 4 times? And now he's on the wrong end of the deal and we're supposed to do what, feel bad? I still remember watching Sportscenter at 1:00 am that fateful night right before training camp when Ricky retired because he wanted to smoke weed more than he wanted to play football. I remember wondering if he cared about his teammates or his fans at all and obviously assumed he didn't. I was a HUGE Ricky fan and even wrote to LeBetard and tore him up for bad mouthing Williams. He wrote me back by the way and said I was wrong and I would be eating my words but Ricky almost broke two thousand yards that year and was pro bowl mvp. LeBetard turned out to be right in the end and thousands of other people and I were left with no one feeling sorry for us. What comes around gos around and yes karmas a bitch. He's going to have to earn all of our trust back before we can start feeling sorry for him.

Mando what's the deal? I just wrote something about Ricky and it didn't post. I got a message that said the content was being checked for "anti spam comments". What the heck is that? It said the moderator would check it over. I'm not selling anything here but my opinion so please put it up for me so I didn't just waste that time damn you! :)

Like the comment 1phinphan and it makes sense. My only problem is the fact that if our fastest receivers were having trouble getting seperation from two very good CBs than how is our slowest receiver going to do anything? I'm wondering if they did this because they were worried about the Jets return game and wanted our best ST guys out there. That would be a reason he wasn't activated. But also lets be honest here, there are a ton of reasons why we didn't win that game yesterday and 99% of them have nothing to do with that last play. We can second guess the coach all we want but lets go the other way with it. Maybe if Wilford played we wouldn't have been in the position to win at the end like we were. If it's possible that we would have won if he was in there, than it is possible that we wouldn't have been in the position to win if he was in there.

The dolphins playbook has 2 sections and the one left untouched yesterday was the Man's section. It doesn't take a man to hold the ball until a receiver is so open you can just lob it to him. When you're ready to fire it into tight coverage and hit the receiver in the hands so he can make a play or throw a deep timing pattern to Ginn and get the fans fired up then you open the Man's section of the playbook

I'm also having trouble caring about how much money Ricky is making. How many times did he screw us over, 1, 2, ummmm 3, 4, times? And now he's on the wrong end of the deal and we're supposed to do what, feel bad? I still remember watching sportscenter at 1am that fateful night right before training camp when Ricky left because he wanted to smoke weed more than he wanted to play football. I remember wondering if he cared about his teammates or his fans at all and obviously assumed he didn't. I was a huge Ricky fan and even wrote a letter to LeBetard and tore him up for bad mouthing Williams. He wrote me back by the way and said I was wrong and would be eating my words but Ricky almost broke 2000 yards that year and was the probowl MVP. LeBetard turned out to be right in the end and thousands of other people and I were left with no one feeling sorry for us. He's going to have to earn all of our trust back before we feel sorry for him.

Mando forget it, I cut and pasted and it went through. Thanks anyway.

Wilford is useless - but every team makes mistakes like that every once in a while. If he's not playing well, sit him on the bench.

The playcalling was stupid though - go to the damn tight ends or call a quick slant!

As for Ricky, the team never would've agreed to drop the $8.1 million. What incentive do they have? The converastion would go something like this:

Ricky: I need you to drop that $8.1 million judgement.

Phins: Why would we do that?

Ricky: Because if you don't, I'll leave after this season and you'll get nothing for me.

Phins: Umm, we'd get $8.1 million...

Ricky: Dayum.

We needed to win that game. I drank all night and am now just waking up with a huge headache and the pain has not left. I will continue to feel pain until Wednesday when I can start looking forward toward Arizona.

Well, perhaps you have given us a reason Ricky was uninspired, oh wait it was the Oline! Or the eight up front in the box. No, it was no rhythm by passing on third down and bringing in a new back on third down. Look, I dont smoke, but somebody must if they think that crap will do for the year. Give it to Ricky at least 20 times and throw the ball further than 15yards and we stand a chance. Ricky dint look great but the only guy who can run against walls , we cut because he sucks. I agree with a lot of the comments.....this is an Oline problem first then a reciever problem next, then a QB problem. The mistakes are expected and the luck was luck. You have some decent tall recievers and a oline that can give time we beat the Jets easily!!!!

And lastly for me tonight, to all of the chicken littles that are dishing out their special brand of insanity I want to remind you of a few things. 1. The team is rebuilding and finally it is being done the right way. 2. This is a process and EVERY SINGLE coach all of the way up to Parcells warned us it would take a few years. 3. We have 26 or 28 new players. 4. We have a brand new coaching staff with a rookie head coach. 5. We have a new offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator. 6. We have no depth because years of boneheaded moves have left us thin at every position except running back. 7. The sky is not falling and we will get better so stop running around screaming your heads off ya chicken littles!

Are you trying to stir the pot? They offered him a deal to play ball and he signed the deal. Obviously Ricky wants to play here. How many others have walked leaving us with nothing?
Besides Ricky did leave us in a crunch a couple of years ago. He may feel some obligation to us the fans after burning us.
Also as of this year there are a few backs in free agency that have had great careers looking for a new place to land. And what does a rb that is 33 that has a bad history of drug abuse get on the open market.
I am with the Brass Monkey on this one. they will hit him over the head with an 8 million dollar lawsuit if he screws up again.

I feel bad for Ricky and a little pissed off at the Dolphin organization. I think they took advantage of Ricky when he didnt use an agent to work the contract. Ricky approached the negotiations in good faith and what did he get? He got ripped off and taken advantage of. I think the players need pay attention and remember this when its time for them to negotiate their own contracts. Jeff Ireland is looking more and more like a sleazeball.

Although i was disappointed that the fins lost the game I was very impressed that they were able to stay in the game albeit many rookie mistakes. Like it or not they were playing a good New York Jets team that has been built to win now and the dolphins were only 1 play away from stealing it. Don't worry the dolphins are going to win some games this year definitely at least 5 perhaps even 6. But maybe that isn't such a bad thing... get some more high draft picks and add some depth. Bottom line is they were competitive and thats a lot more than i can say last year. I don't know about you guys but I'm sick of them being mediocre or bad. I want them to be the next Patriots or the next colts I want them to be a great team. I've waited 23 years for it so what is another 1-2 years?

And enough of the "they lost 6 games by 3 points last year..." dirka dirka nonsense. Every bad team lost that many games There was no effort last year they may have been the worst team i've ever seen. And after 1 game this year I can tell they're already better

Let's see.... He goes from making $750,000 on a deal that ends this year. He gets a one year extension plus a possible $5.6 million over this year and next.... Sounds pretty good to me.... How could any deal he signed be worse than what he had? Are you kidding? And for what reason would the Dolphins drop the judgement? UB...

Could be wrong, but there's no way the union and the league would have let the Dolphins forgive the judgment without it counting against the cap. So, yes, the Dolphins and Ricky could have included it in the negotiations but as the Dolphins aren't likely to collect it and as it would count against the cap if they officially waived it, both parties were smart to leave it be.

how were the phins able to negotiate with him if he already has an agent?

Is it just me or is anyone else tired of Armando and his constant Dolphins player and organization bashing? I for one would LOVE for this newspaper to hire someone who LOVES the Dolphins and who's sole purpose was to stir the pot. Armando, with all due respect, your negativity is part of the problem with Miami's fan base. Negative team coverage helps lead to negative fan attitude....PLEASE STOP!

Mike, it is just you. I think fans are happy when their team wins and fans are unhappy when their team loses. The Dolphins have not done a lot of winning of late.

Joe: Ricky decided to represent himself as is his right.

Anonymous: The $8.1 million has absolutely nothing to do with the salary cap. Zero. They can agree to simply forgive Williams of the money as a binding separate agreement.

Looks like Ricky is about as effective handing these matters as his old agent, Master P.

Feeling SORRY for Ricky! WTF!
I burned a $300 GameDay #34 cause RICKY need to find inner pease...
Feel sorry for the FANS!
8.1 million reasons RICKY takes what they offer and shows up for work, EVERY day!

FEEL SORRY FOR RICKY! Are you all NUTS?

The O-line suffered from a lack of experience and not a lack of talent. They looked good in streaks against a very good D and they will get better with every game.

The running game will come along as the line play improves.

Our WR's were awful! What happened to Wilford and Hagen?

Special teams were a disaster in the first half, and play call was ummmmm Camaroon-like in the second half.

All of that said, we could have won it at the end....I am encouraged.

Mando, (PLZ COMMENT)

You should NOT worry about another man, money!!!

You sound like a cry baby, if the deal is ok with Ricky, then who the hell are you to criticize it. A grown man talking about another grown mans money UNREAL AND SAD!!!


Hey, Armando, this is the anonymous from before. I appreciate your response but am still a little curious. Would the other teams really allow the Phins to essentially pay Williams with the waived settlement without filing any kind of grievance with the league? Seems like if he, say, agreed to a low base salary in exchange for waiving the judgment that the Dolphins would be gaining a pretty large competitive advantage which other teams would, naturally, object to.

I can also see where the union might have issues with forfeited money (albeit money that has already been paid) being used as a form of payment in lieu of any new money. Not saying they could necessarily do anything about it, but I just can't imagine the union letting players play so openly as indentured servants, especially in an era when more and more they have to fight teams for bonus money when expectations aren't met (or when, um, laws are broken).

Anyway, I can see an agreement being reached outside of his contract (possibly with a wink-wink deal for after he retires), but I don't see how they could announce such a deal at the same time that he signs a new contract without raising the ire of more than a few around the league.

I have a feeling that the dolphins will throw out the judgement if Ricky stays clean and retires a dolphin. Why waive it and then have Ricky fall off the wagon. Wait until his career is over then waive it.

Actually, considering the past three years Ricky has had, I don't blame him for accepting what was offered. As for the Dolphins, I don't blame them for keeping something they can hold over his head. They have given him another chance and he has apparently accepted under these conditions. What's the big deal and why are you assuming he does not understand this? Aren't there more pressing issues with the Dolphins...like the crappy job the offensive line did...or the fact that the receivers could have stayed in the locker room? Let's stay on topic, eh?

Yeah, I agree with those saying everything is as expected. They give him a deal that is reasonable but with a wink wink nudge nudge as to the outstanding judgement. They won't enforce it provided...

I agree that the money is already counted against the salrey cap (as we all discussed some weeks ago -- was that Sun Sent.?). However, it gives th Phins a unique bargaining posistion viz. the extnsion (and other extensions in furture years). One year makes sense to me although I hope we get still a further year of Ricky. Run Ricky ...

I agree that the tone of this is rather negative and trying to make a controversey.

Armando.
Don't you have any integridy? Stop trying to make a buck by throwing dirt on a stand up guy. You don't know what was spoken and is not public knowledge. Get a life Armando!

I'm not a man to judge.Ive made mistakes but ricky owes the fans his best,and the proof will be in his play.Play well and you get redemption for 1 yr.Not forgiveness,stay and play for 3 and I'll make my own judgement.He owes miami fans to at least try.Armando, just cause you don't report all gold and silver linings you are doing your job.If you did not ,you would be just another hide your head in the sand fan.Phin fans in PA know life reporting on local sports teams is rough.(I.E :philly)Just keep doin what your doin....Miami fan in eagle country.

he owes, he should pay

Alternate:

he owes, he should play

Armando, you're judging Ricky's deal as if he's been a regular contributor the past three seasons, as if he's had 1,000 yard/season production, as if he's been the model Dolphin.

This time last year, Ricky WAS IN THE CFL.

The man had NO LEVERAGE and has a family to take care of. He also is trying to rebuild his credibility.

Yes, Ricky made a mistake going forward without Steinberg. If you want to hammer him on something, go after that.

As for the rest, one step at a time. Ricky has a lot to prove if he wants real guaranteed money ever again.

Seems dumb talk about Ricky Williams getting guaranteed money in a contract. I doubt the Dolphins or any team would be foolish enough to guarantee anything to Williams. His past can't be ignored. He has proven that he can never again be trusted and will forever get paid after he performs, not before. Add the agent's share into his contract and he is way overpaid. He has shown that an agent would have been just a waste of money.

Just curious- is D. Strock from above possibly Don Strock? If so I would be interested to hear more of what he thinks about this Miami team.

DUDE.....Let it go!! It's neither your money or your problem!!

Wait a flippin' second, Armando. What do you mean he'll still be in the red because he owes $8.1M vs. his $5.6M income? That's a completely irresponsible sentiment.

Your statement completely ignores the fact that Ricky was paid that $8.1M for services he was obligated to provide... and did not. Sooo, that money, which was given to Ricky and should be in his pocket, rightfully belongs to the Dolphins.

Now, it is probably true that the $8.1M is not in his pocket because he blew it smoking weed and doing yoga at the four corners of the Earth. But that is Ricky's responsibility- hear that word??? RESPONSIBILITY.

Sheez, what reckless thinking. No wonder we have economic problems in this country. I hope I come across that money tree with 8.1M leaves on it one day.

Mando, did it ever occur to you that the Dolphins have no intention of ever waiving (or collecting on) that judgment against Ricky? If Ricky doesn't play (and produce) for Miami, he doesn't play anywhere.

Ricky needs the Dolphins a whole lot more than the Dolphins need him. Ricky has no negotiating leverage, agent or not.

Its what is better known as BABY STEPS Armando!

From your post it seems you would be happier if they had forgave the 8.1 AND signed him to a deal worth say 3 years for 24 million or so.

Had he NOT left them team he wouldn't owe the 8.1 to begin with and I'm sure his performance,had he stayed,would surely merit a large contract BUT he left and has had some issues THEREFORE they will make him EARN their trust in SMALL increments VS. just throwing a bunch of money at him and hoping he has his head right.

And if they did sign him for three years and guarantee him any kind of money I'm positive the media would be ripping Parcells a new one if Ricky flaked out again. 'Oh my God how could Bill do that, what a stupid move,etc.'Sometimes it seems like you can't win with the media in south Florida. But I can also sympathize because it must be hard to come up with stories when you're covering a losing team.

Lets see Armando you sign a contract with the Herald with a big bonus up front that states you get to keep it if you come to work every week as your contract implies. Then you promply go out get stoned and get fired because your drug test for smoking pot comes up positive. Hum I guess you do not owe the money Armando because your signature (your word) does not mean anything. That is sad Armando when your word means nothing what kind of person are you then? I guess when you are working for a big company they have to keep their promised but you do not.

Anthony DiCesare hit it spot on. Holding the $8.1 million over Ricky’s head is an insurance policy. They probably spoke about it and told Ricky that if he fore filled the obligations of his contract and stayed clean they would forgive the judgment. I believe if Ricky acts in good faith the team will act accordingly. Given Ricky’s past transgressions the team would have been foolish to take him at his word before he proved himself over a long period of time.

Lets see Armando you sign a contract with the Herald with a big bonus up front that states you get to keep it if you come to work every week as your contract implies. Then you promply go out get stoned and get fired because your drug test for smoking pot comes up positive. Hum I guess you do not owe the money Armando because your signature (your word) does not mean anything. That is sad Armando when your word means nothing what kind of person are you then? I guess when you are working for a big company they have to keep their promises but you do not.

Sorry fin fan in Georgia.
I am just a fan like you.
My Daddy threw me on this bandwagon in 1966 and I never got off.
Don Strock is just one of many Dolphin icons in our past.
His sideline clip board holding vantage of the greatest QB in NFL history is was the envy of a nation.
I simply use this alias to draw humorous (at least for those who remember the original #10....) attention to myself on a team blog.
Now that you know the truth, I'll have to find a new facade to hide behind. Maybe E.Moral or D.Woodly.....

Huzienga's not even the majority owner, Ross is. You think Ross cares about $8.1 Million for something that happend 4 years ago? And how is making $5.8 Million a bad deal for a guy that's 1 puff away from never playing again? Sounds like a good deal to me

Please, D.Strock, if you change handles, make it E.Morrall or D.Woodley.

Mike, it's NOT just you. Fans are happy when their team wins, and they are unhappy when their team loses. They are also unhappy when a writer stirs the pot with nonsense.

Armando, I know you have to find ways to provoke thought but the trash you have spewed about Ricky and Wilford was truely amateur. Wilford not playing was a coaching decision based on anticipated performance, do you think the coaches thought Wilford was better but they'd rather him just keep the pine warm anyway. Maybe you should send this link to Parcells and Sparano so that they might realize the error of their ways.

As far as Ricky. Do you REALLY think a guy that can be just as happy leaving the country on the drop of a dime is losing sleep over a judgement that he'll probably never repay? Do you REALLY think he didn't consider that when he negotiated his new contract? Do you REALLY think this epiphany of yours went unconsidered? It's a judgement, big deal. I've been in banking for 15 years, no-one is going to be able to force him to repay. Jailors debt is a thing of the past. And people with money have a way of getting around Judgements....do some homework.

Armando, I've liked some of your writings in the past, but this recent stuff is crap.

Well thank you D. Strock/A.K.A. Mercury Morris
I grew up on the Dolphins and went to several of their games in the early 70's. I cannot wait for them to get back to their glory days. Go Phins!!!

Where to start? After last's year's fiasco of a season where I had to endure many countless hours of insults from Jets & Giants(I live in jersey, my girlfriend is a Jets fan(she's lucky she's a hottie and a sports nut), my friends are all Giants fans, and the Jets new practice facility is right down the road from my work), the last thing I wanted to do was watch my beloved Phins lose to the Jets...again. So, I took my vacation this weekend (a whopping 4 days) because it was the only time I could get away and went white water rafting. By the way, the Gauley River is quite an adventure if you like extreme sports. I didn't see the game, but I was pleased to see that it was at least close. As much as I can't stand Ricky, you can't abandon the run like they did. Seriously. They can pay me $5.6 million to not run the ball too. I don't disagree with the decision to bench Wilford, but the play calling was god awful. And Chad? I don't know? Being from New Jersey I've seen more Jets games than most people and he never really knocked my socks off. I really am hoping this week was a sign of improvement, but the coaching staff really seems like they need to get in sync with the personnel.

Mandich is reporting as of 5pm that Donald Thomas is out for the yr on IR, & you've got a Ricky Williams post up?

jerseyphish,

u r a funny guy, but i have three issues with your post.

1. U R lucky your girlfriends is a hottie, who cares if she is a jets fan. lived in jersey for a few and there r some nice ladies there :-)~~ , no matter how bad the jets suck.

2. U missed the game for a vacation? what are u a brain surgeon or something?

3. We didn't give up on the run, the O-line did, for whatever reason(s)jets got better, we r too young as a unit, hell I don't know, looked like the backs tried their best.

As for the other posts about putting in Pat Cobbs on Third Downs, IMO is is the best pass blocker we have next to Ricky. Why risk ricky or Ronnie if we r not going to run. He can catch as all of them can as well. I like cobbs and he is getting paid, so he blocks on turd down (not a mis-print, i only like 1 & 2nd downs)

So Jersey Man, slap the girlfriend on the ass each sunday and for god sakes make her watch the FINS !! If she does, marry her !!

its not bad having a hottie in a fins jersey (and nothing else) around to grab the beers & brotz (trust me my friend, I know)

Again in my humble opinion !!

I completely disagree with all the Ricky bashing about his contract. In practical terms, what he did was to double his salary for this year through incentives.

Next year his salary doubles again. On top of that, there's nothing to stand in the way of the team giving him another raise next year and extending him again if he does some fantastic things and both player and GM already hinted at that. Of course, they want to see results first before giving him any guaranteed money.

The $8.1 judgment is a non-issue. Are they actively trying to collect it? Will they likely seek to collect it if he retires as a Dolphin? That was nothing more than leverage and retribution used by a pissed off owner and team when he suddenly retired. They will never collect it.

It's very difficult as an agent to get any concessions when you don't have any leverage. What team is going to give a huge signing bonus to him when players like Shaun Alexander and Cedric Benson are out there and can't even sign up for the league minimum? Unlike them, Ricky has f-up too many times in the past and is a strike away from a permaban from the league.

He obviously likes it down here and likes the coaching staff. He doesn't need an agent to overvalue his worth, hold out and charge him a commission just to accept a roster bonus this year and a substantial raise next year. It also says about Ricky that contrary to some media reports, he's not playing just for the money.

In my humble opinion, Miami simply used this opportunity to recover their money while keeping one of their best players. I agree that the 8.1 million may never be repaid. So management has signed him to contract in which he is clearly underpaid, however, by keeping him in such a contract, he is basically working off his debt. Indeed, he is doing this will still in his prime which helps the team even further. It may be considered a poorly negotiated contract but from a business point of view, I think it's a brilliant victory for the team and its fans. The team gets to hopefully recover what he's owed them for a long time and he gets to show the league he's serious this time.

I agree with Bra1n abd Thomas. Se my spin on this above. This is a non story except for the very negative spin. I guess the ugly negative stuff draws many in. Lets get some real stories. Did the Phins really cut the fullback?

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