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Dolphins defend their ability to get deep

So how you liking Miami's ability to get big downfield plays in the passing game?

The Dolphins think they're doing just fine, thanks. Today, quarterback Chad Pennington and coach Tony Sparano brought up this statistic about how the Dolphins are faring well in pass plays of 20-yards or more. Apparently they've heard criticism that Miami's offense isn't a big-play unit with the pass and they are refuting that.

"It's perception versus reality," Pennington said.

"You talk about big plays and whether or not the ball is getting the down the field -- 'oh they're not throwing the bomb' -- but we have 17 plays over 20 yards which is like eighth or ninth in our league when you're talking about pass plays," Sparano said.

Actually, the Dolphins are tied for 14th in the NFL on plays of 20 yards or more. That is still satisfactory. But it is by no means eye-popping.

The truth is the Dolphins are averaging 2.83 pass plays of 20 yards or more per game this season. Last year -- with Trent Green, Cleo Lemon and John Beck at quarterback, without Chris Chambers most of the year and youngsters Greg Camarillo and Ted Ginn Jr. getting playing time for the first time -- the Dolphins averaged 2.56 pass plays of 20 yards or more per game.

Not a math wiz, but that .27 play per game is not significant this early in the season.

The point is there really is no appreciable difference yet this year.

I must say Miami's coaches are truly doing it with smoke and mirrors. At the very least they are not getting down the field in the conventional sense. Miami's three longest gains in the passing game this season?

An 80-yard pass to Patrick Cobbs on a screen pass.

A 53-yard pass to Patrick Cobbs on a flea-flicker.

A 39-yard pass to Ronnie Brown.

Cobbs and Brown, by the way, are not wide receivers. They are running backs.

So the Dolphins may tout their ability to get down the field. But to believe they are having success actually passing deep downfield, you know, like to their wide receivers, is neither perception. Nor reality.

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Fashion? You obviously have never seen me dress.

As for the problems, firedanhenningnow, it has mostly been a WR problem but last game I thought Pennington had a lot to do with it. Pennington doesn't lock onto one guy, but he seems to like passes in the seam or wheel routes to RBs as opposed to deep routes down the sideline. The offensive line is sometimes good, sometimes not so good, depending on the play. And yes, I am at all the games.

until we get good wr's i don't care if it's farve back there, it not got to look good going deep, period, that the problem it's not chad arm or anything else, get some playmakers in there, i thought it was the fins biggest mistake not to get a few wr's in the off season,

Thanks..I just wondered because against the Ravens,he did lock onto a receiver twice and both times Ginn was wide open..once up the left seam and the second time Ginn fought off the line hard in the slot and was open immediately but CP never even looked his way and he seemed to have the time to do so.

I have the utmost respect for Penni because he has always been a class act but he simply cant make up for the Defense giving up so many points so either they fix the D or we have to get longer vertically or we lose..did Fergusons absence make THAT big of a difference against Balti.?..they ran at will against us.

I agree that Penne is the reason we aren't going deep and Henne would possibly help Ginn look better because of his arm but, would we then be title contenders? No. If we can't win then Henne is better off on the sideline where he is. This offseason with the draft and free agency is when the WR and DB position will be addressed.

Mando, fashion isn't about what you are, it's about what you see. Fashion, because you see the small things in football.

I say why not rotate q.b's and keep the defenses quessing and mix up the plays i.e pennington goes in on 1st and 10 then henne comes in on the next play and keep rotating but do not keep the same q.b. in on the same situations such as henne on third and long.Also get rid of ginn he is terrible can't do much on returns and has alligator arms as a receiver and very inconsistent.The only reason he was drated as #1 pick is because his family is close to nick saban and you remember what he did to the team.He is a good college coach at best.

tomdhp- Dude, Nick Saban didn't draft Ginn. Cam Cameron did. And your philosophy of switching QBs is absurd.

Michael,
I agree it was Cameron who drafted Ginn.And as far as my idea with the qb's switching in and out,thats what everyone was saying a couple of years ago before almost every team has gone to a running back by committee...Hey you have to try something new constantly in todays NFL so it was just a suggestion.No offense taking 'bro.

Michael,
I agree it was Cameron who drafted Ginn.And as far as my idea with the qb's switching in and out,thats what everyone was saying a couple of years ago before almost every team has gone to a running back by committee...Hey you have to try something new constantly in todays NFL so it was just a suggestion.No offense taking 'bro.Also it seems that the wildcat line up is being broken down by defenses i still love to watch them do it !!!!

Thanks..I just wondered because against the Ravens,he did lock onto a receiver twice and both times Ginn was wide open..once up the left seam and the second time Ginn fought off the line hard in the slot and was open immediately but CP never even looked his way and he seemed to have the time to do so.

I have the utmost respect for Penni because he has always been a class act but he simply cant make up for the Defense giving up so many points so either they fix the D or we have to get longer vertically or we lose..did Fergusons absence make THAT big of a difference against Balti.?..they ran at will against us.

whoever said rotate qbs, your an idiot. this is the nfl, you are not allowed to rotate qbs. that is why ronnie has to line up deep behind the center, and not at the conventional qb spot. learn the rules, and then write. am i right armondo?

this is a joke.first off wilford and hagan are not even playing.camarillo is no better than a 3rd or 4th wr.ginn should be catching 6-8 balls a game not 4 for 48 yrds.this is bull.go deep!

when i meant rotating qb's i did mot mean every DOWN jerkhead.Maybe rotate every other possesion just to keep the defenses honest and i do know the rules obviously you do not take the time to interpret what other peoples opinions are.

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