« Clearing out the Thursday notebook | Main | Live blog from Bills at Dolphins today »

Draft breakdown at the forgotten position

Reader John Williams was looking at my Dolphins early draft needs analysis and realized I forgot a very important position of need: Safety.

Sure enough, the safety spot will be an issue for the Dolphins in the coming offseason in that starting strong safety Yeremiah Bell and starting free safety Renaldo Hill are unsigned and the Dolphins don't really have apparent stars waiting in the shadows behind them. Remember that Jason Allen, the first-round pick in 2006, has been moved to cornerback.

Anyway, here is the look at the safety spot in the draft:

Taylor Mays of USC and William Moore of Missouri are the consensus first-round picks. Mays is a monster at 6-4 and 225 pounds and he runs a 4.47 which is stunning. The fact is he is not a robot back there but actually shows coverage as well as hitting ability.

Moore is more fluid, perhaps because he is slightly smaller. But he's not small at 6-1 and 225 pounds. In 2007 Moore had seven interceptions and was a second team All-American but he has had little impact this year without a pick. Some folks are blaming the Missouri defensive scheme for this because it asks Moore to play as many as three different positions in a game.

The next tier of guys includes Nic Harris of Oklahoma, Derrick Pegues of Mississippi State and Patrick Chung of Oregon.

Harris has played cornerback. He has spent time at linebacker. He is also something of a freak in that he is 6-3 and 230 pounds and runs a 4.5 in the 40.

Pegues is not built in the mold of the other two in that he is only 5-10 and 196 pounds. But what he lacks in size he more than makes up in agility and speed. He run a 4.42 and is less than 100 yards from breaking the SEC record for kickoff return yards. He projects as a second or third rounder.

Chung is 6-foot and 210 pounds. He is Oregon's kick returner, he is the second-leading tackler and he is considered a solid leadership guy as a senior. Chung is another one of these versatile athletes that plays mutliple positions. He has been a linebacker and a safety. Now he's listed as a rover for the Ducks.

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d83451b26169e2010535b41283970b

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Draft breakdown at the forgotten position:

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Crabtree is a God. Please look into him more on your free time mando. Thrity-four touchdowns in one and a half seasons. He is worth the investment should he be available to us early. He also has highlights and an interview with Desomond Howard on youtube that will blow you away.

Crabtree is a God. Please look into him more on your free time mando. Thrity-four touchdowns in one and a half seasons. He is worth the investment should he be available to us early. He also has highlights and an interview with Desmond Howard on youtube that will blow you away. He isn't just a system guru; look at his YAC.

Will Moore is my choice as he falls in the rankings to where our most likely draft spot will be. He actually had EIGHT interceptions last year, not 7. In 5 games this year he has 36 tackles, incl 2 for a loss, a FF, and 3 deflections. He runs a 4.42 40. he is used as both the FS and SS depending on the package that is the game so he switches two or three times a drive sometimes. He is the defensive captain as well. Oh, and he practices against Chase Daniel, Maclin, and Chase Coffman every week. If you have to cover Coffman in practice, you learn a few things. 4 year senior, was touted as first round pick last year but decided to stay at Missouri because he wanted to graduate AND spend more time in the community there.

Tinshaker,

You are right about William Moore. He is sick and most scouts have him graded out much better than the second best safety, Taylor Mays. But I dont think there's a good chance the Dolphins will go safety in the 1st round because the holes at CB and LB are much more pressing and Parcells (like most coaches) value those positions a lot more. Safeties usually dont go early in the draft for that reason, unless it is someone special like Ed Reed, Sean Taylor,or Leron Landry.

Hey Armando I thought the fins gave bell a contract extention or at least I can swear I read this here......Moore would definately be a nice pick he is very talented and is a great leader.

Lets get this done this week
lets beat the dam bills
go phins

Hey Armando
I thought the fins gave Bell a contract extention before the season started.
I like Moore he is very talented and is a great leader and leadership is something you need out of the safety position.

Lets get her done this sunday
and beat those dam bills

Go Phins

Yeah I mentioned help at the saftey spot a couple post ago,but I think we will go Linebacker or DT with the first pick,im thinking Cody if he is there or Magulia because Bill likes his linebackers, but this will be a defensive offseason thats for sure well I think we will go for a wideout also.Lets just see what free agents are out there first.

Yeah I mentioned help at the saftey spot a couple post ago,but I think we will go Linebacker or DT with the first pick,im thinking Cody if he is there or Magulia because Bill likes his linebackers, but this will be a defensive offseason thats for sure well I think we will go for a wideout also.Lets just see what free agents are out there first.

Mr Salguero,
Mrs. McNabb know a thing or three about safties.
Like Mr Parcells, Mrs. McNabb remains committed to safety and ensurin damn skipy dat her fine soup always meet all food safety requirements an stuff. Due to recent reports of salmonella possibly resulting from the consumption of fresh tomatoes, she do recognize that some consumers be all concerned about the safety of food products. To date, no transmission of salmonella from cooked tomatoes causin anybody to be illin’ … cept maybe that sucka Lee Evans who mysteriously gonna get a case of the mud slides in his pants and spent some quality time on the toilet durin the game against the Dolphins (thanks to you know w.. I mean I don know nothing bout dat dude…)

Mrs. McNabb will continue to comply with all requirements and guidelines regarding sourcing and trade of material set by the appropriate governing authorities in order to ensure that her bodacious good soups meet all food safety and quality standards.


Mr. Parcells likes dem safeties to play a two deep and make you throw underneath big linebackers and force you to go 80 yards dink and dunk against bigger boys that put a poppin on you wit the premise bein that you gonna turn it over or just make mistakes and it gonna wear on you something fierce in the 4th . That’s his blueprint.

Personally I’d like that Ronnie Lott type safety who gonna hit you like a truck and he so crazy he cut off the tip of his finger to play in one game. You eva wonder where dat piece a’finger be, cause I aint seen it in Canton in the museum… Well don yall be worryin causeMrs. McNabbs down with safety compliance and you aint gonna bite into it in Campbell's® Chunky™ Fully Loaded Beef & Bean Chili. Its got everything else in it though and maybe more if you know what I mean, Lee Evans (sucka).

My boy Donovan got sick in da Soupa Bowl ginst dem Patriots on time. But he all better now and he be crazy like a hobo who being tasered an keep yellin aghhhhhh booyah …

Like Mr. Parcells, Mrs. McNabb remains committed to the safety position by ensuring damn skippy that her fine soup always meet all food safety requirements an stuff. Due to recent reports of salmonella possibly resulting from the consumption of fresh tomatoes, she do recognize that some consumers be all concerned about the safety of food products. To date, no transmission of salmonella from cooked tomatoes causin anybody to be illin’ … cept maybe that sucka Lee Evans who mysteriously gonna get a case of the mud slides in his pants and spent some quality time on the toilet durin the game against the Dolphins (thanks to you know w.. I mean I don know nothing bout dat dude…)

Mrs. McNabb will continue to comply with all requirements and guidelines regarding sourcing and trade of material set by the appropriate governing authorities in order to ensure that her bodacious good soups meet all food safety and quality standards.


Mr. Parcells likes dem safeties to play a two deep and make you throw underneath big linebackers and force you to go 80 yards dink and dunk against bigger boys that put a poppin on you wit the premise bein that you gonna turn it over or just make mistakes and it gonna wear on you something fierce in the 4th . That’s his blueprint.

Personally I’d like that Ronnie Lott type safety who gonna hit you like a truck and he so crazy he cut off the tip of his finger to play in one game. You eva wonder where dat piece a’finger be, cause I aint seen it in Canton in the museum… Well don yall be worryin causeMrs. McNabbs down with safety compliance and you aint gonna bite into it in Campbell's® Chunky™ Fully Loaded Beef & Bean Chili. Its got everything else in it though and maybe more if you know what I mean, Lee Evans (sucka).

My boy Donovan got sick in da Soupa Bowl ginst dem Patriots on time. But he all better now and he be crazy like a hobo who being tasered an keep yellin aghhhhhh booyah …

Mando you forgot about Myron Rolle from FSU. He might be a Junior but he's planning on coming out so he can do more off the field stuff with his degree. You should look up a couple stories on him on the Tallahassee Democrate, he seems like a real good guy

Mando,

What are your thoughts on Michael Lehan getting put on IR? Is his time over with the Dolphins?

R

Mando, you should really look into Emanuel Cook as well. If he decides to come out this year, We can grab him as late as the 3rd or 4th round or even later, and he would be a steal. He doesn't fall that low because of lack of talent, mostly because he isn't like Mays or Moore. He is average sized, at 5-11 and 215. and doesn't have blazing speed, he runs high 4.4's. And that's what most of the ESPN experts seem to covet in safeties. But he is as close to a Bob Sanders Clone as you will see (dreads and all). And i feel that he would be a perfect type of safety for our tough, hard nosed style defense.

Lehan is TOAST. He isn't very good anyway and Trifecta is tossing dead/injury prone weight. This will finally give JA a chance to show what he's got on the field during an actual game. Hopefully......he will show the staff that he's a gamer and will wind up being a starting CB for us. Still need a lock-down CB next year, but then Will Allen can be used in 5 DB sets rather than as a starter. I'm visualizing 2 picks in the next 3 games for JA!! I'm such a homer!!! woo hoo

Finsfan in Orlando: Bell signed a one-year contract in the offseason for 2008.

As to Lehan, I have serious doubts he will ever play for the Dolphins again.

I'm liking Will Moore more and more, pardon the pun. : )

He's a big Safety the size of a 4-3 LB who can run, hit and play the ball.

Armando, this team needs to see what they have at NT this year behind Ferguson in Starks, Soliai and Dotson. I know Dotson is not a NT just yet but I read that they feel he can get bigger and stronger and they like his ability at the point of attack. If we think we have depth at NT heading into 09, we can focus on other positions.

CB, S, depth at LB and on the OL and WR. But we should go after TJ Houshmandazeh in free agency. He can lift our passing game to another level.

"Draft breakdown at the forgotten position?" I thought the forgotten position was Doggy Style not safety. Schizzle ya'll.

I think one priority should be signing Bell. Yes we need a good backup but Bell has proved his toughness and good coverage. He is young and is now used to the system. How about nose tackle in round 1?

Bell is an average Joe at best, ain't nothing special. Resign Bell unless it is for $ that you would play an All Pro, which he isn't nor will he ever be!

You don't waste a #1 pick on a Safety, never , ever! Like a wasted pick. Most decent Safeties were converted Cb's or taken in the 4 th round or later.

Take a WR, CB (Miami Needs 2) in the first. Team also needs dominate NT to play 3-4 D. Ferguson is getting too old.
Never a Safety in rd #1. Never a G, C, TE, S, K, P, or LB in rd #1.

Jimbo, Bell is better than average.

You can take a safety with the 1st pick if you want better than decent. Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, Sean Taylor (RIP), LaRon Landry, Kenny Phillips.

Don't get your hopes up for a WR in the 1st round. We'll probably go CB, S, LB, OL or DL.

i say we keep losing games and draft crabtree that guy is an amazing receiver

Yeah I'm sure the Dolphins organization, the coaches and players are real keen on losing games so they can have a shot at drafting a sophomore college WR next year.

Good luck with that one! You're a hell of a fan.

Honestly I haven't seen ANYTHING that leads me to beleive we won't draft DB/Saftey round 1. We're decent enough against the run (Forget about the Baltimore game... we were missing 2 NT's.) We need SOMEONE who can man up on the other teams #1 receiver. Resign Bell (Best DB on out team by far), find a place for J. Allen to see if he can play or not, and move W. Allen to the #2 CB spot. I'd love to draft Crabtree, but that's a luxury we just don't have yet. Shore up the D, than worry about high round WR's.

The comments to this entry are closed.