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Coles good but not at $6 million a year

The AFC East Division rival New York Jets should have a much improved defense by the time the weekend is over.

The Jets have already signed versatile inside linebacker Bart Scott for $48 million. They're completing a trade for Philly cornerback Lito Sheppard by sending the Eagles a fifth-round draft pick. They're trying to sign strong safety Jim Leonhard and cornerback Cory Ivy from the Ravens.

So what does this all mean? The Jets will likely be better on defense next season. And the Dolphins have to get better on offense to match the moves.

But does adding receiver Laveranues Coles do the trick? I don't think so. Not at his current price, anyway.

The local infatuation with Coles is good radio talk fodder. It's good blog escape. And it's one more thing: Ridiculous.

If this was 2004 instead of 2009, I would understand the longing for Coles. But it is, indeed, 2009 and I predict Coles is shortly about to find out he is very much over-estimating his worth on the open market. Coles is reportedly looking for a contract that pays him at least $6 million per season.

The problem for him is most NFL teams will not pay a No. 2 or No. 3 wide receiver that kind of money this offseason. I think Coles got the first taste of that reality Friday when the Bills let him walk from their facility without a contract.

Coles, 31, used to run consistent 4.3s and sometimes break into the stunning 4.2 range when he was young. But he no longer has that explosive speed and that has shown for a while. Look at the tape of him against San Francisco last season when he simply could not get open.

Coles averaged about 14 yards per catch early in his career. Now he's an 11-12 yards per catch guy. That's what Greg Camarillo averaged last season. Coles is a possession guy now ...

... and one that is not ascending.

Is he tough? Yes. Is he courageous on the field and in staying out of the training room? Yes. Does he have good balance and athletic ability? Yes. Is he a willing blocker? Yes.

But none of that makes him a No. 1 receiver. And that makes his asking price absurd.

The Dolphins know this -- I hope. And so they are staying away. Reports of Coles being in Miami Thursday were wrong. He has not visited the team and, in fact, could not do so as an unrestricted free agent until Friday. And again, he was in Buffalo Friday.

But the Dolphins are watching and waiting, believing the price for Coles will drop and drop and drop. When he's in the more modest $3 million per year range, Miami's interest may, and I stress it is only may, become legitimate, assuming another team doesn't commit to the crazy money first.

But as long as Coles continues to think he commands $6 million per season, the Dolphins should not touch him regardless of how tight he is with quarterback Chad Pennington and despite the fact he was drafted by Bill Parcells nine years ago.

Coles's former team, meanwhile, is making some interesting moves on D.

The signing of Bart Scott will pair him with David Harris on the inside. New coach Rex Ryan believes that is a recipe for confusing defenses because both players can play the SILB spot and both can play the WILB spot. (S denotes strong side and W denotes weak side.)

"I think the flexibility we have with David Harris and Bart Scott is just going to be difficult to identify who the mike is," Ryan said Friday night in a conference call with reporters. "It doesn't sound like that big of a deal, but, trust me, it is. The offense is setting protections against a mike linebacker. If they can't find him, that's going to give them some problems, and I think those two guys right there are going to be quite a pair.

"When you look at our linebacking corps overall, we probably have as good of a linebacking corps as there is in this league, probably right up there with Baltimore and really anybody else."

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I would rather see Parcells draft a wr.

Mando,
I also read that Coles had 2 concussions in the last three years and we all know how much the Trifecta like players missing time with injuries - you have to wonder if this red flag might factor into Coles going to Buffalo and having no plans (announced) for a visit to Florida?

King coles got to be
How day light should be
Crowns and clowns
Prize and surprise
My dear king
In love and near
My heart will bleed
Playoff is far
Away my dear

All this is true about Coles, but we seem to say things like this about everyone in free agency every year, and every year the other teams, like NE with Taylor, sign up people and use them against us....we just aren't a free agency franchise...

TH

Jests have no QB and Coles was their best WR.
If they only rely on RBThomas to run the ball 1000 times they are in for trouble - a one dimensional Offense AND or the RB getting hurt. Jests have improved their D with Lito and Scott, but Gholston is a bust and the Phins are not done improving their offense. Next yr Phins beat them 2x.

Hey Armando, thanks for all the updates. I have a question a bit unrelated to Coles. I have read on some Dolphins message boards that the Fins are considering cutting Ricky Williams cause of his 3.5 mil cap number after Parcells redid his contract. Is this true? I hope not Ricky is still a valuable player and a guy I'd like to see finish his career as a Fin.

Dolphins were at their peak last year so no should wait for better results and any one with brain knows tuna wiil draft WR as his first pick

Coles is not an upgrade from Camarillo and $3m is far more than Camarillo makes under his new deal.

With Pennington, we have the wr's that we need. When it is Henne's team then we need a speedier guy to go with Ginn. What gets missed by fans is that Pennington is holding Ginn back, not the other way around.

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Berge come here
Cook and please

Curtis-

Ricky has a $3.5 cap number? Says who?

Mando,

I completely agree with you on this one...Just say no to Coles...He is old, over-priced and the last thing we need is another #2 receiver...Plus even though Parcells drafted Coles, he was unhappy with the Jets the first time, unhappy with the skins, and jumped the jets sinking ship now...Parcells knows this is not the type of "veteran leadership" needed in the locker room

Jason Taylor may be coming home to play OLB after Haynesworth signed with Washington. The Skins are WAAAY over the cap and Taylor account for about $9M right now. JT should come back home and swallow that pride and close out a hall of fame career in Miami. With Porter and JT on the outside and Roth and Crowder inside, we would have a sick sick LB corps. Merling and Langford should be taking the next step and if we can squeeze one more year out of Fergueson, it could be a dominant front 7. That all works under the assumption Parcells and JT didnt burn bridges however.

Souljahbeats,
Coles is not old he's 36 years old and had only 2 concussions ,I don't think that means no play left in him.sign him for 3 years for let sat 5.5 mill a year.

I think we are going to have to settle for a WR in the draft. The Dolphins wont pay up for an old WR who is passed his prime. Lets just hope the Fins can get a quality CB in free angency this year.

One question Mando, what the hell are the Dolphins going to do with Jason Allen? That guy is a bust and he is taking up space!!! Can we cut him or trade him for a 7th round pick?

JT is not coming back...people have been suggesting things like "re-sign JT and Zack Thomas and while your at it pick up sam madison and patrick surtain"

Although all of these guys were great for the dolphins at some point, they are past their prime and are not coming back...they are a thing of the past, move on.

findavid,

Coles is 31, which is old for a receiver, he has slowed down and his production has dropped...he is not a #1 receiver, we don't need him in Miami

>so no should wait for better results and any one with brain

ugh. me luggi from costa rica. me no have brain, but me have internet.

The Jets will probably draft Matt Stafford at 17 and they're defense is loaded. Meanwhile the Dolphins counter by signing a fat loser called Joe Berger...

Is Anyone Visiting Miami Today?

To my dear brother luggi from waaay; i wanted to say, no one SHOULD.
Forgive me AND may god bless you .is this too much to ask for??

Eric,

The front office has said it over and over again...Don't expect Miami to spend big money in free agency...what part do you not get about that? We also signed Wake and Wilson BEFORE free agency and re-signed 3 crucial players before they hit the market...Also, yesterday was just the first day of free agency, just because they don't make any moves on the first day doesn't mean the dolphins aren't gonna pursue anybody

Mike,
Yeas some people coming to visit the home today.

Ok guys I always use to read and laugh. Them I started writing to try and make you guy understand this was not dreamland. Were you just say things and they happen.
It's like you sit here reading and eating paint.
But if you can't beat them join them I say. Right knows I'm eating teal green paint with a splash of orange.
Lets trade Beck to the cowboys for WR. Austin
And Roy Williams and hey maybe we can get 2nd round pick too............lol

1.J.ALLEN IS NOT A BUST LIKE SPARANO SAID HE'S JUST HASN'T BEEN "WELL-SEASONED" WHICH I THINK WILL CHANGE FOR THIS SEASON AND WHEN WE DRAFT SEAN SMITH FROM UTAH WE SHOULD BE SET FOR A WHILE.2.COLES IS OLD BUT STILL GOOD. BUT HE IS NOT WORTH THE AMOUNT HE'S ASKING FOR. MAYBE HIS LEADERSHIP IS PRICELESS BUT HIS PLAYING ISN'T. 3."The Jets will likely be better on defense next season. And the Dolphins have to get better on offense to match the moves.",SAYS ARMANDO. WE ALSO HAVE TO GET BETTER ON DEFENSE MORE SO THAN OFFENSE. OUR ILB'S CROWDER AND AYODELE ARE NOT GOING TO CUT IT BECAUSE THE JETS USEED OLD COLES LAST YEAR TO RUN RIGHT PAST YOUNG CROWDER TO SCORE(OOOO THE PAIN). WE NEED SUM FASTER ILB'S OR WE NEED TO GIVE CROWDER AND THE BOOK ZONE AND MAN COVERAGE FOR DUMMIES. I AGREE WITH JASON ON PUTTING ROTH IN THE MIDDLE BECAUSE WE WOULD GET THE PASS RUSH THAT AYODELE DOESN'T HAVE AND THE RUN STOPPING ABILITY AS WELL. BUT LIKE I SAID HE ALSO NEEDS TO READ MAN AND ZONE COVERAGE FOR DUMMIES.

Does Anyone Know What Free Agents Are Visiting Today?

How much did they pay Ernest Wilford again ?

All that I'd give Coles is a deal on a season ticket. I think the guy is done. Maybe a year or so left in him but its not like he had an easy career early on. I see no reason why Ginn can't step up in his 3rd year and at the very least match what Coles did last year.

Lets remember what we all thought about the receivers last camp and how far they've come. I'm excited about Ginn, Camarillo and Bess. I'm interested in London because he certainly hasn't proven himself yet. I suppose Wilford could get it straight in camp but I doubt it.

Coles would only take away from the top 4.

they didn't re-sign 3 crucial players, they re-signed a guy who can't stay healthy, a guy who was cut by Al Davis, and a right tackle who was a little shaky at times last year.

They are reporting on NFL network that the Browns will try to trade Braylon Edwards...I think he would be a much better fit than Coles

Eric,

regardless of your pessimistic assessment, there was nobody better to replace those players that were re-signed...the team would be worse if they walked...As for Wilson, the fact that he was cut by Al Davis says nothing about his skills, he was cut because of Al Davis' spending habits, not because of bad play...the dude has a super bowl ring! as a starter! come on man...

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in dire trades
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is our dream

J-P , how old are you ? what grade are you in.? 3rd or 4th ( as far as writing style ). Sean smith is probably going to be a safety. He's got great straight line speed , but with him being so big 6-3 217 he lacks the real good hip movement and fluidness to play cb. Matt roth is to slow to play ilb in the 3-4, where you have to cover alot more ground , being filling the gaps in the run or dropping into coverage against the pass ( Covering the rb or te out of the backfield).

the Giants front 7 made they're secondary look better than it was. Sam Madison was on that team and he sucks.

they guy had over 120 tackles last year...He had the most tackles of any DB in the NFL last year...that really sucks

so what is the plan for Ethan Kilmer? CB or just special teams?

I agree souljahbeats, you can't put value in any of Al Davis' moves. Wilson was a bright spot in their D last year and the fact that he played FS for the Giants and SS for the Raiders shows that he might have made the same choice last year Jason Brown just made which was money.

Lets hope he has grown an appreciation for playing for well run teams because a year in Oakland can do wonders for a player's perspective.

Not sure what the Browns would look for in an Edwards trade but I'd put him in the category of Boldin. I'd do it for the right price.

souljahbeats: Did they have any hard info on Edwards being available or was it just speculation based on the Winslow trade meaning the Brown's are willing to deal about any player?

Edwards' prominence, bit difficult and contract attitude and contract coming up soon (I think after this year) would make him the logical focus of such speculation.

He'd be that #1 WR guy we are looking for, but bet you'd we'd have to pony up our first and either a 2nd or 3rd.

the Giants front 7 made they're secondary look better than it was. Sam Madison was on that team and he sucks.

Posted by: Eric | February 28, 2009 at 12:00 PM


Well lets hope we do the same.

Jon,

It was speculation...but thats the type of receiver I think we should target if he is on the market...

njphinfan we meet again. MATT ROTH IS NOT TOO SLOW TO PLAY ILB. SINCE HE NEVER PLAYED LB BEFORE THIS YEAR HE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE WHOLE COVERAGE THING WHETHER IT BE MAN OR ZONE COVERAGE. WITH SOME EXTRA OFFSEASON WORK THIS YEAR HE CAN PROBABLY BE BETTER THAN AYODELE IN THE COVERAGE AREA. IF YOU WATCHED EVERY SINGLE GAME LIKE I DID THEN YOU WOULD KNOW THAT ROTH IS ABLE TO PLUG HOLES AND AT 6'4 275 AND PLAYING OLB LAST YEAR I THINK ONLY B. JACOBS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD DARE ENTER THE DOLPHINS INSIDE ZONE. HOW DIFFERENT WOULD HE BE THAN CROWDER? CROWDER COULDN'T COVER ANYONE ANYWAYS AND A MAJORITY OF ILB'S IN THE NFL GET HELP FROM THEIR SAFETIES WHEN IT COMES TO COVERAGE. SEAN SMITH WOULD BE A STEAL FOR CORNER BECAUSE HE DOES HAVE SPEED. BUT SEAN SMITH CANNOT TACKLE WHICH IS WHAT A TEAM NEEDS WITH SAFETIES. O AND I FORGOT I'M IN THE 1ST GRADE AND I'M 10 SO THAT EXPLAINS THE WRITING FROM THE FIRST POST.

Even if Coles lowered his demands to $3 million a year,Miami should avoid him. The guy is way past his best and at 31,he's on the decline.Miami should draft a WR in the 1st or 2nd round or maybe even inquire about a trade for Braylon Edwards, who for the right price could be a huge upgrade for this team.

Even if Coles lowered his demands to $3 million a year,Miami should avoid him. The guy is way past his best and at 31,he's on the decline.Miami should draft a WR in the 1st or 2nd round or maybe even inquire about a trade for Braylon Edwards, who for the right price could be a huge upgrade for this team.

We already have three possession/#2/#3 WRs. We need a legitimate #1. Pickup a Stunner in the draft. Let Ginn improve. Let Bess improve. And there is your starting 3 with Camarillo running around as well.

We already have three possession/#2/#3 WRs. We need a legitimate #1. Pickup a Stunner in the draft. Let Ginn improve. Let Bess improve. And there is your starting 3 with Camarillo running around as well.

How Mark knows when a player like coles is in decline?
I Wonder where was he to warn us when fins got 1-15 year?

We must sign coles fast ,he's youngat 27 years old and he's very healthy.

Sporvo and soulja , please slow down. What part of were not trading high end draft picks because its to cost effective ( Jeff ireland) you guys don't understand. The phins are not trading draft choices and then pay big money for edwards ( or boldin ) and his attitude . Stop with the madden football ( LOL ) mentality and enjoy the upcoming draft ( How about trading player FOR more picks ) where championships are made BABY 111

Jay, Miami only has 2 possession receiver camerrello and bess, ted (no testicular fortitude)ginn and his clip board holding daddy is not a possession receiver unless there's no one with in 15 yards or there's a side line near by......

Hey monkey, hows the decapitated head working out for you, and why did you attack that nice lady????

For a start,how many WR's actually get more productive at the age of 31-32 compared to when they were 25-26?? I'm guessing not many,so he's on the decline. And what does Miami going 1-15 have to do with anything??

For a start,how many WR's actually get more productive at the age of 31-32 compared to when they were 25-26?? I'm guessing not many,so he's on the decline. And what does Miami going 1-15 have to do with anything??

Thanks souljahbeats.

No doubt that Edwards would be one of the three studs we need to really make a run: #1 WR, shutdown corner and dominating NG (Ferguson fits that bill now pretty much but not for too much longer).

We have other needs now and on the horizon but those are the hardest to find and they don't come cheap. Just ask Dallas (Roy Williams), Washington (Haynesworth), and Oakland(Asomugha).

NJ Phin Fan,

I'm not saying it will happen..All I said is that he is more the type of receiver that the dolphins are looking for...not coles...I said nothing about draft picks...

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J-p , matt roth is not to slow for ilb ? , are you kidding me !!! Here's some FOOTBALL 101 for you. The SLB job in the 3-4 is to hold the point of attack ( requires strength ,roth's strong point ) and funnel the run to the ilb's who have to cover sideline to sideline to make the tackles , which requires speed and to be athletic ( roth's weakness) Also smith will be a safety , mark it down . LOL , at the 10 years old and 1st grade commeny,

CUBAN .M;menace did you write this poem in here ?
if not can you write some lines to include any thing you like in it.last i am in curfew now .the only thing i am allowed to do is to read is this blog cause it makes me feel better

no monkey, i do not write poetry of any kind..

Matt Cassel has been traded to the chiefs

this is being reported by adam shefter as well as PFT

Ah Geez. Trading Cassel gives the Pats pick(s) and cap space.

It looks more and more like we are drafting a WR in the first round this year. Armando who is your favorite WR in the draft that is possible at 25? or the maybe the other 2nd round picks? cuz u know they will draft one with one of the first 3 picks....

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