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The Dolphins philosophy on their free agents

Free agency is only two weeks away, which would suggest some last-second dealing between the Dolphins and their half-dozen important unrestricted free agents is still possible. Those talks might ordinarily occur face-to-face at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis next week.

Except that's not really how the Dolphins work anymore.

The days of an eleventh-hour move by the team to bring an important player on board are long gone. Miami's philosophy these days?

The Dolphins long ago set their internal value on their free agents and have made offers to the ones they are interested in retaining, which is to say all of them, with those values in mind. It is the first step of the free agency game plan and the Dolphins aren't likely to stray from the plan at the last minute.

A Dolphins source on Wednesday explained that once the team set a value for each player, it talked to agents, and in some cases the players themselves, to help that side understand the club's thinking.

"We want everybody back," the source said. "We don't want to lose anybody. But we have what we think is the right price for every player and that's what we're willing to pay. We've told each guy, 'It's not personal and it's not that we don't like you.' But we have a plan and a value and that's what we're willing to pay. Maybe some other team will pay more and if that's the case, good for them. But we're going to pay what we think the player is worth.

"Does that mean we might lose some players? That's possible. We've lost 20 players in the past we didn't want to lose."

This doesn't mean there might not be some wiggle room. There is always wiggle room. But it strongly suggests the Dolphins and players such as Yeremiah Bell, Andre' Goodman, Vernon Carey, Renaldo Hill, Al Johnson, and Channing Crowder will not suddenly have a joint epiphany and come to a last-second, pre-free agency deal.

Unless some of the agents representing the players suddenly see their clients as Miami sees them, many of these guys will hit free agency Feb. 27.

That certainly is true of Crowder. He and agent Joel Segal have scheduled no talks nor negotiations with the Dolphins between now and the start of free agency. [Negotiation fact: It's hard to get a deal if the sides ain't talking.]

Segal, a skilled dealmaker, has an offer from the Dolphins in hand, according to a source. He also has his price for Crowder's worth. And even as Crowder has been working out at the Dolphins facility as often as four days per weeks since the end of the season, there is a distinct difference of opinion on Crowder's value between the player side and the team side.

Agent Drew Rosenhaus represents Bell and Hill. He hopes to talk to the Dolphins before the start of free agency, but again, unless he lowers his asking price -- particularly for Bell -- the strong safety seems likely to test the market.

And it bears noting that once a player has waited this long, once he is only two weeks from the start of free agency, he becomes harder to sign because the open market lure can be quite inviting. It also bears stating that sometimes the team underestimates a player's worth.

The Dolphins may or may not be doing this with Carey, as he is one of the few starting caliber tackles on the market. But there is nothing that says the team won't have time to recover from any miscalculation. Most agents are more than happy to bring back an offer for their player in hopes of leveraging a better offer.

I doubt the Dolphins would go for that very often, but the possibility exists.

None of this is written to be divisive or pit team against players. It is just the reality of the situation between the Dolphins and their unrestricted free agents now.

One more thing: The start of free agency every year signals some of great fiction writing in journalism as agents and teams and other sources feed sportswriters contract numbers for the freshly minted free agents. Many times those numbers come with an agenda and are nowhere close to accurate. I know, I've made the mistake of trusting people's word only to be disappointed when the truth comes out.

One recent example of this is the contract signed by Derek Cameron Wake. It was widely reported in January he signed a four-year deal that could be worth $4.9 million. Nope.

Wake's salary is scheduled at $310,000 in 2009, $395,000 in 2010, $480,000 in 2011 and $565,000 in 2012. That adds up to $1.75 million. He got approximately $1 million in bonuses and guarantees which bring the deal to about $2.7 million and he has another $900,000 or so in incentives that bring the potential total of the deal to about $3.6 million.

But what's $1.3 million between friends?

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what happened to the parcells post Mr Salguero, hope you did not get in trouble for that bud. Also when are you going on 790 love it when you get on. whatever parcells does is fine he can drop his pants and walk in the 50 yeard line and my conclusion would be this must make the fins better somehow.

HEY ARMANDO IF THE DOLPHINS WERE TO FRANCHISE VERNON CREY HOW MUCH WOULD IT COSTS THEM NEXT YEAR! I KNOW THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE VERNON CAREY THE 5TH HIGHEST PAID OFFENSIVE RIGHT TACKLE IN THE LEAGUE! SO WHAT WOULD THAT BE? TRUTHFULLY I THINK VERNON CAREY IS 1 OF THE BEST 5 OFFENSIVE RIGHT TACKLES IN THE LEAGUE ANYWAY SO MIGHT AS WELL PLACE THE FRANCHISE TAG ON HIM ANYWAY! ALSO WHAT KINDA CONTRACT HAVE THEY OFFERED VERNON CAREY AT THIS POINT IN TIME HOW MUCH A YEAR AND HOW MANY YEARS? THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE CAREY HE WAS THE MOST PRODUCTIVE PERSON ON THE O-LINE THIS YEAR BEHIND JAKE LONG! LONG AND CAREY IS THE BEST ON THIS UNIT! SO THEY NEED TO LOCK UP CAREY TO LIKE A 5 YEAR DEAL! SO THAT WAY WE HAVE CAREY ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIS PRIME AND ALSO WE HAVE THE RIGHT AND LEFT SIDE OF THE O-LINE LOCKED UP TOGETHER FOR THE NEXT 5 YEARS WITH LONG AND CAREY BOTH ON THE LINE TOGETHER AND SINCE THEY ARE BOTH AWSOME PLAYERS AND BOTH PROBOWLERS IN MY OPION! AND IF DONALD THOMAS CAN COME BACK HEALTHY AND DOMINATE THE GUARD POSTION LIKE HE DID DURING TRAING CAMP WATCH OUT BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE A VERY DOMINATING LINE BECAUSE SMILEY IS JUST OUT RIGHT NASTY! SO OUR LINE WOULD BE SET AND IF WE COULD GET JASON BROWN AT CENTER WATCH OUT BEST O-LINE IN THE LEAGUE BY FAR HANDS DOWN! THAT MEANS WE HAVE 4 1ST ROUND DRAFT PICKS ON THE LINE AND 1 6TH ROUNDER IN THOMAS! BUT FORGET ABOUT WHERE THEY WERE DRAFTED JUST LOOK AT HOW THEY PLAY THAT IS WHAT MATTERS AND THEY ARE AWSOME! SO LET'S IT BACK AND HOPE THEY DO THAT WITH CAREY THEY NEED TO FRANCHISE HIM AND THEN GET HIM TO SIGN A 5 YEAR DEAL!

JP: One of the Herald's managing editors asked to take down the Parcells post until I get a second source confirming the story. When I do, I'll put it up again at the top of the blog where it belongs. I will be on 790 the ticket on Sunday noon to 3 p.m. Thanks for asking.

Rob: The franchise number for Carey would be $8.451 million. It doesn't make sense for the Dolphins to franchise him because that is a HUGE cap hit and I doubt that is the value they have set for him. The transition number is $7.74 million.

I wouldnt overpay for any of those guys, but I would overpay for Carey and not let him hit free agency. He's still young at 27 (especially for offensive lineman who can play at a high level until they are 34), never misses a game, never gets in trouble, can play any position except center (including LT), and plays the critical position of right tackle (as opposed to safety or LB which arent as important). The Dolphins have a ton of holes and there are only so many draft picks each year. $25 million is a lot of cap room, especially when you dont have a high 1st round pick. I think here is where you overpay. I would give him a 6 year, $40 million deal with $15 million in guaranteed money to make sure he doesnt hit free agency. If the Dolphins want to run the ball 35 times a game next year, it starts with signing this guy. I'm surprised they might let him walk.

How many teams have you arm chair GM's and your arm chair media writer built ? I'll trust Parcells and his long track record over any of you and you media instigator anyday.

Last year Miami got rid of players and everyone screamed bloody murder, like
Zach and Taylor, what was Miami's record without them again ? RELAX !!!!!!!!!!

Who is Al Johnson? Never heard of the guy.

ATTENTION: WE MUST SIGN YEREMIAH BELL!!!!!
He is a proven playmaker and the heart and soul of our secondary. He is a warrior, has a great heart and is a team player with no character flaws.
It would be a major mistake to let him hit the market and have to replace a player of his caliber and experience!
GET HIS CONTRACT DONE BEFORE IT'S TO LATE!!!!!

ARMANDO...You need to bend some ears at the top (ie; The Trifecta) and emphasize the importance of signing Yeremiah Bell as soon as possible!!!The clock is running out!!!
I'm still not even over the Wes Welker loss. We don't need to lose another high quality, core, true Dolphin player.
So see what you can do or find out for us. Thanks.

Read Mitch's comments. I feel exactly the same way. It would be nice to get back all of these players, especially Carey but not at the expense of the team. It is funny that he won't get half as much as Long.

If we can't re-sign Bell, then we need to move on. There are other "Fish" in the sea. I'd like to see us target someone like Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu in a nice trade. We've got players that we could get rid of, like Ernest Wilford or Paul Solai or even David Martin, that would be good to offer up as a trade bait. If we had to, we could throw in one of our second round picks.

Looking at how we could not run to the right very well in the base offense, I do not see how Carey can demand a high price. Is he a good player? YES! But Miami do not need to overpay for him. If he wants to walk, let him go. Bell have injury issues that would make me concerned about giving him big dollars unless it's based on incentives tied to playing time and performance.

"But Miami do not need to overpay for him."?

"Bell have injury issues ..."?

Speaky Engrish ... otay? You guys so funny - make-a-me-a-laugh. Now get me a runch menu.
You guys talk like something right out of The Emmitt Smith Anthology.

"Wade [Phillips] inherit this success." (Commentary: That may be true, but it also looks like someone will be inheriting Emmitt's seat on Sunday NFL Countdown sometime soon.)


"My game-breaker go to Brett Favre." (Commentary: And my dictionary go to Emmitt. Please, Emmitt, start reading.)


"And when defense felt my will, it was a total different game then." (Commentary: Scoring touchdowns? Easy. Using adverbs? Impossible.)


"The Packers don't has a running game." (Commentary: And if this keeps up, ESPN will not has good ratings.)


"This team have not played confident football in three weeks." (Commentary: I love it how Emmitt refuses to use contractions. Emmitt doesn't cut corners!)


"He gets the ball over to their third read than most quarterback can." (Commentary: I think Emmitt forgot a word here, but at least he didn't say "He get the ball over...")


"Mike Martz have this offense rollin'" (Commentary: And Emmitt have this grammar thing rollin'... NOT.)


"The Pittsburgh Steelers are not as good as everyone think they are." (Commentary: What is Emmitt talking about? I thinks the Steelers is good!")


"He deserve to be coach of the year." (Commentary: I wasn't sure who should be coach of the year, but Emmitt really swayed me with that argument.")


"He's gonna be the guy Tom Brady look for on third downs." (Commentary: And I don't think Emmitt's gonna be the guy Webster look for when he updates his dictionary.)


"It takes a coach who know how to communicate." (Commentary: And it takes an analyst who "know" how to communicate too - unless you're working for ESPN.)


"He turn around and go deep on Dre' Bly" (Commentary: Career touchdowns, 175. Career rushing yards, 18,355. Career verbs conjugated, 0.)


"Brett Favre went into Dallas nine times and have a big goose egg." (Commentary: And I bet Emmitt had tons of big goose eggs on his grammar tests when he was in high school.)


"I love those style of play that the Tennessee Titans bring to the game." (Commentary: What a coincidence! I love those grammatical error that Emmitt bring to the Sunday NFL Countdown!)


"Let's see if he step up big today and play great for the Chargers." (Commentary: I tried to look up if the word "he" can be used as plural. Instead of giving me an answer, Dictionary.com called me an idiot and crashed my computer.)


"All your base are belong to us." (Commentary: OK, maybe Emmitt didn't really say that, but I guarantee he was hired to translate for CATS. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, Check this out. Someone really needs to make a mix video of CATS and Emmitt talking to each other.)


"That offense does... do look good." (Commentary: He was actually about to say "That offense does look good," but changed what he said mid-sentence to "That offense do look good." I'm speechless. How can someone be so poor at grammar? Did CATS really say, "All of your bases belong... All your base are belong to us?")


"He just need a runnin game to help him." (Commentary: And Emmitt need Hooked on Phonics to help him.)


"Giants has too many guys in the secondary banged up." (Commentary: Ahhh, the tricky has-have dilemma. When do you use "has?" When do you use "have?" This has puzzled writers for years.)


"All those things messes with the mentality of your ball club." (Commentary: And all of these Emmitt quotes messes with the mentality of my brain.)


"I'm concerned about a guy who fall down before get hits." (Commentary: And I'm concerned about a guy who speak before he conjugate his verb and puts the "s" in the wrong place, but you don't see me making a big fuss over it.)


"Wes Worker is a possession receiver that make things happen." (Commentary: I don't care who "make" things happen, but who the heck is Wes Worker?)


"Norv Turner have a lot of experience in the playoff." (Commentary: When Emmitt uttered that statement, Norv Turner's postseason record was 1-1. Good thing we're talking about the playoff here, and not the playoffs.)


"I like the Eagles based on what I saw on Monday night." (Commentary: Emmitt was referring to the Eagles-Patriots game. It was on Sunday night; not Monday night. Did Emmitt TiVo the game or something?)


"Tom Brady is buyin' time for his lineman." (Commentary: And here I thought that offensive linemen were "buyin' time" for the quarterback.)


"Let's not judge the Giants until we're in the bottom half of the season... The bottom half of the schedule get much tougher." (Commentary: Bottom half? Bottom half!? I knew there was a first half and a second half, but now Emmitt's telling us that there's a bottom half of an NFL season. And here I was thinking the season went from September to early February. When does the bottom half of the season take place?)


"Reggie Bush is definitely effective. Just not tonight." (Commentary: Emmitt said this after the Falcons-Saints Monday night game. Note to Emmitt: Bush wasn't effective... because... HE DIDN'T EVEN PLAY! No wonder he wasn't effective tonight.)


"The NFC West is probably one of the weakest... CONFERENCES... in the whole NFC. These guys over here, you have the Cardinals, you have the 49ers, you have the Seahawks, and you also have the Rams..." (Commentary: Thank God Emmitt's around, or else we'd forget which teams are in all the divisions... I mean... CONFERENCES.)


"Alex has a lot of growing up to do, and it's hard to grow up when you are learning three different offenses every year." (Commentary: Three different offenses every year, huh? That's a lot of turnover in the Bay Area. What are they doing down there?)


(On the Super Bowl) "The loss tonight... And the loss today is gonna hurt for a long time." (Commentary: So, apparently the Patriots lost to the Giants twice. Once at night, and once in the afternoon. Damn it, I only saw one of those games.)


(Attempting to quote Jimmy V) "Don't quit. Don't ever quit." (Commentary: For the record, Jimmy V's immortal words were "Don't give up. Don't ever give up." Well, at least Emmitt understands synonyms. Oh, and Emmitt, don't quit. Don't ever quit your gig at ESPN.)


"He was coming through line to make a move and got blind sided by Al Wi... Al Wi... Al Jackson." (Commentary: Don't bother searching for Al Jackson on NFL.com. He doesn't exist in real life - only in Emmitt's mind.)

Relax. other teams will be cutting good players because of salary cap problems. Also we should be good to get 2-3 dallas rejects for a bargain.
Get Carey back.
Bell gets a lot a tackles because of the defense 3-4 allowing many run plays to come up to the second level. Many of his tackles should have been knocked down passes or ints. YB needs to slap some balls down and not tackle after the catch..... It would be interesting to get a tackle breakdown and not just totals.

Translation:

I have no source. I made up the whole thing so that I could get my blog posted on PFT.

Rebuilding a team requires patience… It’s a three year process to put your team in a position of strength with player negotiations. The Eagles or the Steelers are good examples of teams that have worked the formula correctly. They can allow their own FAs to move on and avoid paying players whose personal value exceeds their value to the team. Pittsburg allowed Alan Faneca its best OL to leave because his personal value was greater than his value to the team. I bet he wishes he was wearing that ring but obviously a couple extra million was worth it to him.

In building a team it hurts because it’s hard to let starters walk when there is limited talent on the roster, but it must be done and that why it requires patience. It’s the old pay for performance quotient. If one player is paid disproportionately to his performance then there is resentment in the locker room and it ultimately hurts the fragile chemistry required to keep a team playing at a high level. So players must be on the same page as management and management must deal in good faith. When a player can get more than his value to the team he must be allowed to leave and the vacancy replaced by a draft pick.

...

Posted by: That guy

Nice of you to steal that Emmitt stuff from Walter Football and act like it is your own. You even stole their comments and re-used them. Loser.

I know I'm banned, just wanted to say this was a good post...

MR BUNGLE...
ARE YOU BEING SARCASTIC WITH EVERYONE OF YOUR POSTS OR ARE U JUST FROM NEW YORK?

You're obviously not banned.

That Guy... Dude you had me rolling! That was awesome!

ESPN just reported that while on the phone yesterday announcing his retirement, Brett Favre threw another interception.

Mando, some douche is posting as me except he didn't use the exclamation point in my name. Just so you are aware.

On the bright side, I'm glad someone agrees with me that finheaven.com is a piece of turd website.

Does anybody know how many picks the Dolphins will have this year? Or is it to early to find out!

Common guys, how much the trifecta is willing to pay Carey depends on how comfortable they feel a player like Jordan Gross will be available, Johnson, Hill and Goodman are good backups but they're backups in a good team.

Crowder is gone, specially because how he's complaining about his salary for long time, the trifecta don't like players like that.

The case for Bell, is even he's a good solid player, he's not a playmaker, which drops his salary way down, and he's 30 and only had one good year before, so I don't see him back, unless Rosenhouse realize that instead of trying to sell another story.

Right now, we have 9 picks (1st, 2nd from Washington, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th from Cleveland, 7th from Carolina, 7th), but I hope we can get a couple of picks more trading some players

THAT GUT,you forgot "and you media instigater anyway"

Be atch,
'Acted" as if it was my own material? You made that assumption and are wrong. Even if I did, I am sure I would be as clear as mud to you that a post attributed to "that guy" was not about taking credit. I read blogs because other people write funny stuff - I don't care who they are, if the cut and pasted something into their post nor do I attribute credit to them. Its anonymous entertainment. How do I know you are who you say you are ? I don't and I don't care.

I cut and pasted it into a blog (not a research paper) because it was funny. And know I didn't use MLA citations etc.

You might want to mix in some relaxation.

This is more than I usually write to educate a 10 year old but hell I like you, so let me stop writing and give you another quote I stole. You might want to try it on for size since you obviously have outgrown your underoos as you head into adolesence and have gotten your panties all up in a bunch over this.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"

Mando,

Will you have my baby? I love you more than words can express...

Yeremiah Bell and Vernon Carey need to be resigned, it is vital to our success for the upcoming season. Goodman, Hill and Crowder are league average players, these are the types that typically hit the free agent market because they aren't great players. I know goodman made plays down the stretch, and I would be all for bringing him back at the right price, but he isnt on an elite level. Per position, I feel Carey and Bell our elite players at their specific positions. Carey is a talented versatile lineman, that while he is not a pro bowl player, he is on the cusp he just plays a less than glamorous position. His position if predicated on run blocking, which he is excelent at. Also, he can play LT unlike most RT, therefore we have a top flight backup for Long in case he ever goes down. As far as Bell goes, although his age worries me, he has also only played a few healthy seasons, so he may have the tools to be one of the few safeties who is effective into his thirtys. Bell is a playmaker and never misses tackles. He is one of the best at his position. Letting these two players go would be terrible, as it would just make two more wholes to fill for a team that already needs a WR, youth along the O line, a young NT, inside and outside linebackers, a CB and a young Safety. This team has alot to do this is still a rebuilding project despite the 11 5 record. Teams rebuilding need to hang on to their great players. Crowder, Goodman, Hill are easily replacable with younger options via the draft or free agency. However, if Carey and Bell are let go we will almost certainly be weaker at RT and SS next season.

Bell & Carney is a must. Look what happen to our defence two year ago when Bell got hurt.He is whatr makes them go. Carney is home growend he is one of the best at what he does.Do what it take to get them to stay.

Let's see, the Dolphins' offensive line was mediocre at pass protection and poor at run blocking -- Pennington usually had time for only three-step drops, and our good running backs could only get past the line of scrimmage when deployed in the Wildcat. Yet most of our fans here think it's imperative to keep Vernon Carey, and some specifically want to "overpay" him. One person says Carey is definitely one of the top five right tackles in the game ... but he also thinks Justin Smiley and the Baltimore center, whatever his name is, were first round draft picks.

I can't help thinking that the fans' and local media's myopia about Carey's mediocrity owes to his locally popular alma mater. One of the few good decisions made in the Wannstedt era was to not overpay free agent right tackle Todd Wade. Houston got stuck overpaying him, perhaps in part because he was semi-local.

The only way to get ahead is to pay players the right amount; not too much and not too little.

My own hope is that Carey goes to some team willing to overpay him. There are many tackles better than Carey, and we can get one at the RIGHT price. Then maybe Ronnie and Ricky will get some actual holes to run through.

**** I'd like to see us target someone like Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu in a nice trade. We've got players that we could get rid of, like Ernest Wilford or Paul Solai or even David Martin, that would be good to offer up as a trade bait. *****


Oh yeah, Ernest Wilford for Troy Polamalu. Pittsburgh would be crazy not to jump all over that.

TFK

Hey ALEX ,who's carney ? is it the late art carney from the honeymooner's ,who now plays ot for miami? lol.

Tfk ,your the only one that doesn't realize that somebody is cracking on mr bungle (who many dislike on this blog) .Nobody is really serious about those trades ,lol. get a clue.

i like all those guys for decent money.. i dont think any are worth big bucks... bell is a great tackling safety.. an 8 in the box guy, not great in coverage..those guys only work well if u got a ball hawk at FS that has that range so u can move him in the box.. carey is a solid RT but would NOT overpay him..why OVERPAY anybody their worth?? doesnt make sense to me.. crowder is a good MLB..had a good season..i stress GOOD.. another tackler.. thats all he is.. if ur gunna get paid the big bucks... make big buck plays..never has an INT.. never gets sacks.. even tackles behind the LOS are rare. i wouldnt pay him big either. goodman is an average CB.. plays with alot of effort and definately improved as the season went on.. hes a nickel corner IMO.. but in this defense its the front 7 thats gunna make or break the entire D.. i wouldnt mind the same secondary back.. its not a terrible group.. we need another edge rusher to get pressure so porter doesnt get quadruple blocked.. and we need another NT..ferg is good but gettin up there and soliai blows i think. OLB/NT/G/C...DO IT...DO IT

OLB/NT/G/C


DO IT

I really would love to trade Wilford for Ed Reed. Anybody disagree? It would be great for Miami.

Mr. Bungle, you are as always correct. Everything you, me, finfanrob, tinshaker, Walker etc say is brilliant. Everyone else is a moron.

yeah ,lol.

bungle,

no way reed for wilford unless you are willing to also lick in WH last 5% ownership of the team, lol. reed is elite, wilford gets practice squad reps.

you're always right,lol.you got to be kidding me!!! 1-miami already signed cameron wake to play olb and to help porter as a pass rush specialist 2-you would bring back the entire secondary(hill sucks and the rest are average=see ari,ne,and the hou games). miami's top needs are at least 2 ilbs (crowder is gone and the only other decent ilb is ayodele),c and ol depth and SECONDARY(at least 3 new players a cb ,2 safties).then in the later rounds nt,a project de/olb and a wr.now go back to the drawing board ,your always wrong.

D Man Canada weighs in :

I think we need to overpay for Carey a little bit. Worst case scenario he ends up one hell of a guard. Best case scenario he dominates at right tackle. You cant lose resigning hime. Ohter than unforseen injuries / personal matters. Crowder is gone. Consider that done. He is going to get way overpayed on the market and to be honest I still remember when he was drafted, he had the bum knee. That can bite him anytime and I just dont think he deserves pro bowl money which is what segal seems to think he is worth. Bell would be great to have back. Love his attitude, work ethic. He has also suffered a significant injury and that should be factored into the dollars he is worth. Tough decisions is right, the question is, will the regime make the right ones. Bring back Carey ! You heard it here first...

D Man Out !!!

Hey Mando, Jerry Porter was released by the Jags. Is your blog tomorrow going to be why the Dolphins should sign Jerry POrter because he's big?

If we're going for a player like Reed or Polamalu, we'll have to put Ginn, Satele, Roth, and a second draft pick to get one of them, but if we get one of them for only this 3 players I'll do the deal

We shall trade Pennington to Minnesota for a 2nd and a 3rd rounder, it'll makes a lot o sense for both teams

Hahhaa, Manuel. That's some good stuff. I have a 2003 Hyundai Tiburon that is nearing the end of the road. If someone would give me a 2007 Cadillac Escalade, I would trade you. I'd give you a conditional $300 if I don't have to make any undue repairs for the next six months.

I'd like us to keep Bell, Carey, and Goodman. The others are replaceable. In a perfect world, I'd love for us to sign center Jason Brown, and ILB Bart Scott, of The Ravens. Also Antonio Bryant, WR, Buccaneers. Highly unlikely though.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-5-55/Briscoe-honored-for-breaking-QB-barrier.html

Remember Marlin Briscoe? 72 Fins.

No never heard of him. But I have a nice recipe for Marlin brisket.

http://www.fooddownunder.com/cgi-bin/recipe.cgi?r=159247

Does anyone know a really good type of hand cream? My fingers and knuckles are very sore from spending all day on Dolphins blogs and forums telling everyone who is not an elite, special poster that they are wrong.

wow , lol .that's to much.

Armando, loved the way you ended the story. That last sentence wrapped it up neatly with a little humor. Good stuff. I'm scared about the Bell thing. He had a great year but he is 30 and he has a history of injuries. He had ONE good season and I think the guy is a heck of a player but how much is a player who had one good season and is coming to the end of his career really worth? If they end up overpaying for him, I would bet any amount of money that he would get hurt and be out of the lineup for an extended amount of time. You can call it a gut feeling but it has some merit. This year Bell needed to stay healthy (to prove he could) and there's something to be said for what that does to you mentally. If he were to get a longer contract he may let his guard down a bit and end up injured. I know it sounds crazy but I keep getting that feeling and can't shake it. He just hasn't played healthy long enough for us to rely on him at his age. The SS and FS spot must be addressed this offseason with a draft pick and free agent. The draft pick should be the guy playing behind the guy who gets signed and the free agent can step in for the guy who doesn't. We need to sign Carey even if it means overpaying a tad and they should sign Goodman and draft a young CB to take over in a year or two. Freaking Jason Allen. Al Johnson would be nice but also has injury problems, we obviously need a center an Satele just isn't strong enough. Would LOVE to see him at a guard position and his knowledge of the center spot would be invaluable. an extra pair of center eyes to help evaluate the defense or catch things the new center might miss. It would be great insurance if Thomas or Smiley went down but we could rotate him in and out as needed if they were to stay healthy. Can't wait to see what happens with the o-line.

Obama sucks!

and a f'n socialist!!!

And an effing Steelers fan.

If we can't re-sign Bell, then we need to move on. There are other "Fish" in the sea. I'd like to see us target someone like Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu in a nice trade. We've got players that we could get rid of, like Ernest Wilford or Paul Solai or even David Martin, that would be good to offer up as a trade bait. If we had to, we could throw in one of our second round picks.

Posted by: Mr. Bungle | February 12, 2009 at 07:50 AM

That's the imposter posting as me. You know the guy who doesn't post on this blog 24/7 but accuses everyone else of doing it.

This is the only post from me on this blog.

Does anyone know a really good type of hand cream? My fingers and knuckles are very sore from spending all day on Dolphins blogs and forums telling everyone who is not an elite, special poster that they are wrong.

Posted by: Walker

This is me posting as me. I am a guy who posts on this blog 24/7 but accuses everyone else of being dumb.

This is one of millions of posts from me on this and other blogs.

MR BUNGLE, who cares if this is the only time you posted on here.Go back to the ss where you've been on that blog all day.Get f'n lost!!!

Wilford for Ed Reed!!

Someone get emmitt smith a tutor!

Cam Wake's salary was first reported in Canadian newspapers, in Canadian dollars, which may account for some of the discrepancy.

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