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Kiper: No shutdown corners in this draft

The saving grace for Miami's inactivity in the unrestricted free agent cornerback market has been the thought Miami will simply reach into the draft and pluck one or two solid corners to supply its need -- doing so perhaps as early as the first round.

Well, that may yet happen. But anyone thinking there will be a ton of available excellent cornerbacks in this draft didn't watch the NFL combine when many corners ran disappointing times. And now the "draft gurus" are starting to chime in on the class.

Meet Mel Kiper, draft guru. This is what Kiper says about this year's available corners over at espn.com: "There isn't that one true shutdown cornerback available this year," Kiper says. "And after the subpar 40 times run by the defensive backs at the combine workout, this position isn't really as strong or as deep as originally anticipated."

Obviously this is an opinion and it's not necessarily shared by the Dolphins. And the 40-yard dash times in the draft have been called into question because of a possible clock malfunction. But I think we can all agree Kiper studies this stuff more than the average layman. So I'm sharing what Kiper has to say about some of the top-rated cornerbacks.

Understand the Dolphins have apparently taken a hankerin' to Utah's Sean Smith. They've interviewed him. They've poured over tape of him. They really like the kid. More on him in a minute, including a youtube video below. This is what Kiper says about the "top" cornerback prospects:

Michael Jenkins (Ohio State): "Jenkins is barely maintaining his spot as the No. 1 cornerback," Kiper says. Although Kiper points out that Jenkins "brings a ton of experience and sound technique to the position," he ran a 4.55 40-yard dash at the combine, which makes Kiper worry whether he's worthy of first-round consideration.

Vontae Davis (Illinois): Davis is on Jenkins' heels as the top cornerback in this class. But "he lacks the necessary consistency and is still a work in progress," Kiper says. "But physically, he has the awesome physical talent you look for to warrant a first-round grade."

D.J. Moore (Vanderbilt): Kiper says he has impressive cover skills, good return skills, smooth hips and good ball skills, but he lacks good recovery speed.

Alphonso Smith (Wake Forest): "The 5-9, 193-pounder would be a first-round lock if he were a few inches taller and a bit faster," Kiper says.

Darius Butler (UCONN): Butler is a multiskilled athlete with outstanding recovery speed, Kiper says. Butler also saw action on offense, with nine receptions, and is a solid kick returner.

Donald Washington (Ohio State): Washington left school early, a move that many people questioned, but Kiper says he is a solid second-rounder and will draw consideration in the latter portion of Round 1. "He has the physical skills you look for," Kiper says.

Kiper includes Smith among a group of other corners with "early-round potential." Looking at the guy you have to figure he's a bottom of the first round or top of the second round player. He has elite cornerback size (6-3), he had good production throughout his career, he stays healthy which the Dolphins love, and he has no off-field issues.

"He has excellent, excellent instincts," one college scout told me this morning.

The scout told me Smith has to, "improve his technique getting out of his backpedal because sometimes his steps are awkward and that hurts his recovery to the ball." But, this scout added, "From what I've seen, he's very coachable and will be eager to work on his technique when a good pro coach gets a hold of him."

One more thing: Smith, the scout said, "has excellent ball skills. If the ball is in the air and he's in good position, he's more likely to come down with it than the receiver."

The other corners Kiper mentions as having early-round potential are Jairus Byrd of Oregon, Keenan Lewis of Oregon State, Brandon Huges of Oregon State, Captain Munnerlyn of South Carolina, Jerraud Powers of Auburn, and tough-guy Asher Allen of Georgia, who my scout source sees as something of a sleeper with great potential despite limited production."

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from my huge info about CB in the draft ,i can say that all of them would need to ride a harley during games to keep up with MOSS and T.O.

harley u mean ducatti i think i spelled it right....

harley i think u mean ducatti on nos..

Honda will do.

I like 6'3'' cornerbacks

Ken Lucas from the Panthers just came available. Not sure what kind of money he would want (I know he had a big contract with the Panthers) but he might be a nice addition and I don't think he's that old. The Dolphins won't get competition for his service from the Pats and 'Skins and I would think he could be a nice addition to the secondary opposite Allen, while we groom a rookie or two this year. I am really not overly concerned about the Dolphins secondary, I am more interested in what they do with the pass rush. If we can have a dominant pass rush, our secondary will be just fine.

Are these the ball skillz of Sean Jones that you were talking about armando? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9M2w9m320k... How fast was this guys 40?

i think you can find 6'6" but he still must run fast and change route on a dime ,that's why we need a CB riding a harley during games.

Coreection of my last post.. Sean Smith not Sean Jones of the Philadelphia Eagles.. My bad

Based on my huge info about the draft's CB ,you can note all the details about them but then WHEN they counter the beast MOSS or beast number 2 T.O each one of them will turn into a bunny and will result in fins record to go to 6-10

What about Pacman Jones? At least according to this article http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9321684/No-longer-sure-how-to-feel-about-Pacman?MSNHPHMA
he is remorseful and wants to prove he deserves another chance. If he's willing to work for the minimum why not give him a chance?

Jackmac........We know that Pacman is willing to work for the minimum wage and needs another chance, why fins has to be for THE old players and minimum wage ones? after all we have TOO many of them already.

Can we please focus on what is most important?

Kiper is an idiot.

Who the hell is Mel Kiper? All these talking-heads are the same...they all need to go work on their "ball skills" in a gay club somewhere...

Remind me how the Giant's average corners covered the Patriots great receiving corp... oh yeah by not giving Brady the time he needs to get the ball downfield. We will draft corners this year, but the success of our defense will be dependent on the pass rush. For this reason, I still think a LB at the end of the 1st might be the best option. Better than taking the best available CB just because of a perceived need.

Well if Mel Kiper said it then it has to be right cos he's never wrong is he?? Hmmm. I'd rather listen to Mike Mayock personally and see what he's got to say.

Mel Kiper is not a draft guru. He's a conceited ESPN employee who couldn't build a winning team if his life depended on it. Ask him when Brady Quinn is going to live up to Kipers reviews. I don't understand why Kiper is still getting paid to give his advice to anyone, exept it is ESPN. Enough said about that.

wow that grab by sean smith was awesome and is he really 6'3''

KIPER said that D.J moore has a smooth hips .you can tell form that comment that he's not a football guy but as long as he has few good looking suits he will be for ever a smooth talker on front of camera

Kiper is a moron.

Well now I'm positive that this draft will yield at least three pro bowl shutdown corners. If Mels saying something won't happen you can assure yourself it will. I would really love to see a percentage of how many times his predictions/guesses are right. I'm really pshyched that they are high on S.Smith. The kid has great size and hands. The few problems he has are small and can be coached out of him. I still would like to see them take a veteran corner for insurance and will be VERY interested to see what happens if they don't. Maybe they know something we don't and we'll all go "Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh that's what they were doing". Well that's my hope anyway. Also,Kipers an idiot as is evidenced by his pronounciation of the letter 'W'. "Dubaya". Who says that?! lol

A CB is good but, is still more important a pass rusher, since if you have the tough enough pass rusher, you don't have much problem on the secondary, there's no CB that can cover a WR for ever. So i'd like for the first round Tyson Jackson, and in the second round Sean Smith

There are no shutdown corners in the draft? There are only two in the whole NFL! The shutdown corner is an endangered species... You want to shutdown the passing game? Put a dominating pass rush on the field... That's how you stop Moss and T.O... Don't let the QB have time to throw to them... So lets stop crying about the Dolphins not signing FA corner backs or what's available in the draft... The Steelers have gone years with just guys at cornerback... They not sending their corners to the Pro Bowl... They sending those pass rushers and Polamalu... Same thing with the Ravens... And the Colts... Dominant corners are nice... Not a neccessity... The Dolphins had dominant corners in Madison and Surtain and Buckley for years... No rings... We put some young athletes out on the corners and dominant pass rushers in the middle... That's the blueprint..

Another experienced cornerback hit the NFL free-agent market Wednesday when the Carolina Panthers cut starter Ken Lucas in a salary-cap maneuver as they try to clear space to help with keeping defensive end Julius Peppers. The move saves Carolina $2.375 million against the cap. Lucas could be an answer for the Dolphins as they seek a cornerback opposite Will Allen. See Lucas interception highlights.

-From Ben Maller's Rumors page on Foxsports.com

Get Pacman. He has something to prove, they always work out well. Why not give him a chance. If he screws up cut him, he wont tear up the locker room. He seems like a changed guy just read that article about him.

Mel Kiper is a genius out of this world, his record of amazing draft picks talks volume about him and his greatness.

I think cornerbacks in this league are overmatched. Receivers are just too big, strong and fast. As a few people have already stated, it is far more important to have a superior pass rush to protect your cornerbacks than to try to find the next great "shutdown" corner.

I think it doesn't really matter much which of the top corners we draft as long as he is not a complete bum. What's going to matter is how strong our pass rush is. Especially with this years schedule if we don't get a rush from anyone other than Porter (bring it Cameron Wake) it's going to be a long year no matter who we draft or sign in free agency.

Oh no, Kuiper feels everyone's hips - that is why he can say with authority that DJ Moore has smooth hips. Kuiper is an idiot, a moron and the best bet is to go against his instincts unless you are Dave Wannstach and really like stinky LB from Tennessee...

HOW MANY ROOKIE CORNERBACKS HAVE BEEN SHUTDOWN CORNERS? AS LOONG AS THEY DRAFT CORNERS THAT ARE YOUNG AND FAST AND HAVE GOOD BALL SKILLS, THAT IS ALL U CAN ASK, THE COACHING IS GOING TO MAKE THEM A SHUT DOWN CORNER AND LEARNING THE LITTLE TRICKS AND HAND TECHNIQUES ETC. I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT TIL OUR SECOND PICK FOR CORNER AND TAKE WR WITH THE 1ST OR IF A VERY GOOD OLB OR DE DROPS AS A BACKUP PLAN, EITHER WAY WE SHOULD END UP WITH A SOLID WR AND CORNER.
1ST PICK- HAKEEM NICKS
2ND PICK- SEAN SMITH
OR
1ST PICK- DARIUS BUTLER
2ND PICK- BRIAN ROBISKIE

Mel is the HIPS MAN

Rather than repeat what everyone else has already said about Kiper (and I whole-heartedly agree), can we get off the 40 times at the Combine, Mel? The players don't wear pads during the drill, so it's a pretty pointless exercise. Besides, how often do players run 40 yards in a straight line? Outside of a RB who is breaking away or WRs/CBs on a deep route, I doubt very few.

I think the Combine and Pro Days are a great way to evaluate talent in the position drills, but when you want to watch someone's game speed, watch the tape, not the 40 times.

I hope they hurry up and get a CB so you can calm down. Relax man. Let Parcell, Ireland and Sparano do what they do. I like you dude but you're really starting to drag this thing into the ground.

Do what you do best and get that inside info. You have everybody beat on that one.

Sean Smith is a beast, at least he will be in a couple years. 6-3/6-4, over 200 lbs, 39 inch vert, 4.47 speed. He only played defense for two years in college. One year at FS (2008) and one at CB (2007). So yes he is raw, but whatta you expect with so little experience? Before 2007 he was a WR, so he understands pass routes and route combinations, and he has excellent ball skills. He's not as physical as youd like for a guy his size, but he's a good blitzer, with long arms to reach the QB or get in the passing lane. If he's there at 25, Ireland should be double timing up to Goodell with the card" with the 25th pick, the Miami Dolphins select, Sean Smith, CB, Utah.

Dolphins should put a spending freez on DL untile Moss and T.O both retire ,cause we know our team suck so why we have to spend money on losing cause.

CORNERS ARE ONLY AS GOOD AS THE D-LINE'S ABILITY TO PRESSURE THE QB. PERIOD.

WE COULD HAVE CHAMP BAILEY, NAMDI ASMOUGHA, AND ASANTE SAMUEL, BUT IF THE QB HAS ALL DAY, WR'S WILL EVENTUALLY GET OPEN.

- There are only about 7 shutdown corners in the NFL, so you dont have to draft a shutdown corner to have a good defense.

- Even if there were shutdown corners in this draft, they would all be gone in the first 15 picks. No one is getting a shutdown corner at pick number 25.

- Forget Pacman Jones. He is not just a bad character guy, he is actually a criminal. DO you know what he has been involved in? He is an actual gang banger. You cant have that around your football team.

CORNERS ARE ONLY AS GOOD AS THE D LINES ABILTY TO PRESSURE THE QB. PERIOD!

WE COULD HAVE CHAMP BAILEY, ASANTE SAMUEL AND NAMDI ASMOUGHA, BUT IF THE QB HAS ALL DAY TO THROW THE WR'S WILL EVENTUALLY AND ALWAYS GET OPEN.

Corner schmorner.....DT or LB in the first.....plenty of time to get one after the draft from cuts for a rent a vet.....

By the way, Sam Madison don't have much athletic skills and he intercepted very often, Jason Allen have all the tools and have too much room to improvement, so don't get tricked about athletic skills

any truth to the rumor that one of the two chads will change his first name?

Fake Gm////smith's speed is 3.9 man,WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

How many rings did Sam Madison bring? How many playoff wins did he bring? How many playoff appearances did he bring? Intercepted often... So what?

first & foremost, some of the best shutdown CBs in the NFL have had some great DEF linemen in front of them to allow them to make great plays.

It ALL starts up FRONT. you get pressure on the QB and he will more than likely make mistakes that your CBs can capitalize on.

Randy Moss will continue to do well because teams have trouble getting pressure on Brady. I am not worried about TO in Buffalo. remember Trent Edwards is still the QB. not saying TO will do poorly, but he will not put up great nos. write it down.

Marcus,sorry to say you have no clue when you said,intercepted often..So what? did you forget the 4 interceptions against the Ravens?

any truth to the rumor that one of the two chads will change his first name?

Posted by: Brain.NJ | March 12, 2009 at 12:43 PM

any truth to the rumor that brian in nj can't spell his own name?

Bacala... What? I talking about Sam Madison... Or Cuban Menace... Or whoever else you claim to be... Come correct or don't come at all... I'm about real discussion and not nonsense..

I trust Mel Kiper as much as I trust opening a business in this economy. Personally, I feel if Darius Butler is still on the board at number 25, you take him. I think he's going to be a great player, but mostly, I thnk he can start immediately for the Dolphins. And they need an immediate starter at that spot.

Now, I can say, "oh, well I trust the Tuna," but in respecting Armando's wishes, I'll add my own opinion and choose the player I think the Phins should pick. Which is Butler.

Some observations:

1) Mel Kiper has a very odd shaped and disproportionately sized head.

2) The great thing about Ronald Reagan was that he didn't care what the eastern elites thought of him. He knew they weren't the real America. Conversely, Richard Nixon was eaten alive by his rejection by the establishment.

3) If I were to survey internet porn (which I absolutely don't), my favorite category would be MILFs.

4) Remember when Nick Saban made that Miami Dolphin cry in training camp and it was shown on every sports show? I know one person who wasn't laughing - Cuban Menace. He's far too decent.

5) I'm resolved to use my emergency brake regularly on my new car. Even though it seems counter-intuitive, I've been instructed to apply it in the following order:

Starting car:
a) While depressing the brake pedal, put the car in reverse.
b) Release the emergency brake.

Parking car:
a) While depressing the brake pedal, apply the emergency brake.
b) Put the car in park.

6) I'll admit it. I married for lust.

marcus ,you said interceptions are not important so what?that means you have no clue how you can change the course of the game genius?

" I'm about real discussion and not nonsense " LOL. That's funny !!!

IMO - the Trifecta believe they already have their other starting CB, he is Jason Allen. Otherwise they would have picked up one of the Vets on the FA market.

But they may still pick up a CB to groom in the draft.

tonydalia, dear who gave you this name ?

Get Surtain back for virtually nothing and draft a CB you can groom.

Where in my comments did I say interceptions are not important? Please tell me... I said Sam Madison's interceptions benefited us nothing... We have no rings. Once again I'm talking about Sam Madison, that's who you brought up as intercepting often... Jason Allen intercepted 3 balls in like 5 games when he played safety... Two against Donovan McNabb... Did we win the game? Nope. The Ravens got their interceptions because of their pass rush and Ed Reed, not because their corners were great... So know you have a clue Cuban... You're not such a menace...

I think that MJZ is probably right. We are probably going to start J. Allen opposite W. Allen and draft a corner or two to groom as W. Allen's replacement next year.

I am in agreement on Sean Smith, he is a beast. I would love to see the draft go something like this for us:

Round 1
#25-S/CB
Sean Smith, Utah

Round 2
#12-OLB
Clay Matthews, USC

Round 2
#24-WR
Louis Murphy, Florida

Round 3
#23-CB
Mark Parson, Ohio

Round 4
#26-NT
Terrance Taylor, Michigan

Round 5
#25-ILB
Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina

Round 7
#5-OG/OT
Greg Isdaner, West Virginia

Round 7
#29-TE
Dan Gronkowski, Maryland

No Marcus, don't misunderstood me, this article begin with the poor speed in the 40 yards drills for the CB in this combine, and my point is, that is a bit most important how you do play in a game, so guys as Jenkins could have their chance to succeded in the NFL and with the Dolphins as well. I make a comparision between two Dolphins players, but i can mentioned Tom Brady, Terrel Davis, among others. who don't have good combine but win a super bowl.

MARCUS, i have a question for you.......did you eat your CAKE today?

Glad to see the posters don't care what Kiper says. After all, Sam Madison and Patrick Surtain weren't touted as all world corners when they came out but they were as good as it got. On the other hand, Terrell Buckley and Adam Jones were top 10 picks. I'm sure the group will find the best men available for the job and build the team to be the best it can be. I don't concern myself with Kiper's comments and I'm glad most of you don't either. Kiper's role is best left to be someone who introduces college prospects to the averge fan but he should not be considered an all knowing.

Marcus is saying even if Sam did good job to have many interceptions it wasn't good enough cause the team didn't get any thing out of it like it was sam's fault and ravens did won the playoff game cause they the players to make it count,MARCUS the genius saying is....if a player does his job and get the ball back to his QB as a result from interception it's not good as long we don't get a touch down.

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