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Thursday buffet of Dolphins news and notes

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A couple of days ago I told you the Dolphins are buyers as the NFL's Oct 20th trade deadline nears. The fact is very few trades are actually made at the deadline in this league, but that doesn't mean there isn't lots of talk between the teams.

And the Dolphins are talking. I told you it would make sense if the Dolphins inquire about Cleveland Browns return man Joshua Cribbs.

Well, this report in the Dayton Daily News says the Browns have heard from Miami.

Look, Cribbs is the AFC's leading punt returner, averaging 16.3 yards per return. That makes him No. 3 in the NFL. He is the NFL's No. 8 kickoff returner with a 26.1 average.

The Dolphins are averaging 8 yard less per punt return and four yards less on kick returns.

So this situation requires continued monitoring. The odds are against it happening as Cribbs will cost the Dolphins a draft pick or a player, plus a new contract. The Dolphins don't like giving up draft picks in trade and giving big contracts to new players.

But ... He is really good. He is 26 years old. And the Dolphins can use the upgrade and the big-play potential. Miami still has not decided on a kick returner following the loss of Patrick Cobbs to season-ending knee surgery.

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Matt Roth is eligible to begin practice either Monday or Tuesday and he will do exactly that. The Dolphins are seeking a clarification from the NFL on whether the player who is on the non-football injury list can begin working either Monday, if that marks the first day following the NFL season's first six weeks or Tuesday, which would assume the Monday night game is the final game of the sixth week.

A player on NFI is eligible to begin practice after six weeks -- not games, weeks.

Anyway, Roth, who has missed the season to this point, will return to practice.

"I would say we want him get him out there and get him going and take a look at him," coach Tony Sparano said today. "We just don't know when he would play."

Roth has said he feels healthy and ready to go. He also said Wednesday he was told he would likely play in the Nov. 1 game against the Jets. He was placed on the NFI when he complained he was sick the first day of training camp and failed his conditioning test. Later it was learned Roth had a groin injury.

Roth could play as early as the New Orleans game, but more likely will not barring a serious change in circumstances.

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The Dolphins will not practice on Friday. "You only have a few opportunities to really gas up and this will give them a 64- or 65-hour block to make sure we get some of these bumps and things taken care of," Sparano said.

The Dolphins coaching staff will work Friday, take Saturday off and get back to work Sunday.

Sparano plans to fly to Albany N.Y to watch his two sons -- Tony and Andrew -- play for the University of Albany's football team.

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Channing Crowder (ankle) and Joey Porter (hamstring) missed the second consecutive day of practice Thursday. They were simply being rested.

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The Dolphins announced a scoring change off of the Oct. 3 victory over Buffalo. A third-quarter sack that originally went to Cameron Wake now is scored as half a sack for Wake and half a sack for Jason Taylor. Both players now had 2.5 sacks in the game.

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Cribbs would be a good addition but I want a true #1 WR not a KR.

Anyone want to trade us for Gerbil?

Explain to me how a new returner is going to improve the horrid blocking thus far in the return game?

LOOK IF GINN CAN BLOW BY ANY DEFENDER AND HENNE AND HIM CAN MATURE ON THE DEEP ROUTE I AM FINE WITH OUR CURRENT RECEIVING CORP. WE NEED SPECIAL TEAMS HELP DESPRATLY. IF THERE IS ANY CHANCE IN THE WORLD WE COULD LAND CRIBBS WE WOULD NO DOUBT BE THE MOST DANGEROUS TEAM IN THE NFL. PERIOD. LOOK WHAT THIS GUY CAN DO IN THE WILD CAT- HE PLAYED QB HIS WHOLE LIFE BEFORE THE PROS. THEN WE COULD PASS MORE FROM THIS FORMATION. WE COULD GIVE THE BROWNS PAT WHITE AND SOME PICKS THEN THEY COULD OFF QUINN TO SOME TEAM WHERE HE CAN START. JUST A SUGGESTION????????

Line up Fergie in the wildcat. I hear she has played multiple positions.
Go!

I remeber hearing good old Roscoe may be on the market, what about him?

I CAME RUNNING FROM THE LAST POST TO SAY;

HENNE THE HERO .

IM good trading Turner for Cribbs, and a 3rd round pick.

Aloco,

I been waiting for new post with actual Dolphin news and not politic agenda.

Henne the Hero!


If the Trifecta thinks that the team is good enough to make the playoffs then a trade will be made. Otherwise...

Turner Stays!

so far this year the DL has not even one player that stands out ,i am sure tuna will ship one or two players out and fire the DL coach .

Hey Armando, is there any truth to the rumor the dolphins have interest in acquiring to from the bills?

Trade Ginn for Cribbs and have a draft pick kicked in on both sides.

Whoever has the better season gets the pick.

TED gin is the future star of this team Mark.talk about LONG OR COWDER TO be move else where .

Cribbs would ba nice add for sure, but I cant see the Trifecta parting with a 2nd rounder plus the mountain of cash this guy is gonna want, nor do I blame them for not wanting to.

As good as it sounds to make a trade for Cribbs, I doubt it'll happen. Does he play any other position? If so, is he any good at it? I don't see this F.O. trading for a situational/ special teams player. And after seeing how good Henne and Ginn can be, I don't think they'll want him returning kicks right now. They may use Bess on punts and it's anybodys guess on kickoffs. Special teams needs better blocking and tackling.

Trade Ginn for Cribbs and have a draft pick kicked in on both sides.

Whoever has the better season gets the pick.

Posted by: Mark In Ottawa | October 15, 2009 at 03:31 PM

trade your #1 reciever for a kick returner, albeit a pro bowl kick retuner??? my worst nightmare is trading ginn somewhere that has an elite qb and wacthing sportcenter highlights with ginn running all over the place...

Cribbs would be nice to say the least, but at what price? Trifecta's plan is working wonders. KEEP OUR PICKS!!

Do you think they would be willing to take a 4th or 5th rounder for him Armando?

I can see the reasoning behind this move possibly happening. If we can start at the 35 or 40 instead of the 15 or 20, it would make life easier on our offense. I love the seven and eight minute drives but occasionally you want be in striking distance right away.

But my question is if you just picked up someone from S.F. take the place of Cobbs on special teams why trade for Cribbs?

send joey porter or matt roth and a 3rd to cleveland for cribbs what you think armando?

not saying cleavland has an elite qb...i just dont wanna see ginn traded now wit henne at the helm...henne+ginn will make us dolfans drunk wit love for the next decade!!

send joey porter or matt roth and a 3rd to cleveland for cribbs what you think armando?


I know this question was directed at Armando, but c'mon Bryan, really? Porter or Roth and a 3rd for a a KR who's a marginal WR? Porter is the emotional leader of our defense and Roth is one of our best run-stuffers. C'mon man, no way I (or more importantly, the Trifecta) makes that deal.

No hate on Pat White today...nice job Armando.

Nothing to do with Cribbs and I know Henne has more to prove but..... has Mel Kiper Jr said anything this week about the bad move the Dolphins made when taking Long and Henne instead of just Matt Ryan??

Ohhhhh God,
Dear 10 year old general managers - You might want to define the problem before you go looking for a solution.

Hint: Fix the holes in the bucket before adding more water.

Hint: A division opponent successfully executed two fake punts in the same game? That is preparation and execution. New ST coach next year - the writing is on the wall.

Ted Ginn for a KR? Trade a 3rd rounder (Turner) who we havent even looked at for a KR? I wouldn't trade for a KR sorry and certainly not for draft picks. Special teams is preparation, 'tude, and execution more than talent - good special teams coaches bring that faster than anything and it is why some teams consistently excel. You can spend all you want but until you fix the problem, you are throwing good money after bad. We already had people who tried that. Their names were Spielman, Mueller,Wnny, Cameron ...

We have holes specifically interior defense from front to back. Special teams are huge in this league, but I'm sorry but a KR doesnt merit picks.

Listen Parcells is probably here for 3-4 years max. During that time you want as many draft picks in his pocket as you can get because those guys he drafts are whats going to be left when he's gone.

Trade Roth and Ginn (yeah, Cribbs is that good). That way we can keep the draft picks and go after a topnotch receiver in next year’s draft.

If the dolphins trade ted ginn for anyone, they will forfeit the entire season. No cornerback can run with ginn on the homerun ball, how foolish it would be to get rid of someone like that. I believe that the people who suggesting that we trade ginn are JETS fans undercover!

DEAR MIAMI HERALD EXECUTIVES: PLEASE FIRE ARMANDO SALGUERO!

I AM OFFICIALLY STARTING A CAMPAIGN TO GET ARMANDO "CHIPMUNK FACE" SALGUERO FIRED FROM THE MIAMI HEARALD STAFF BECAUSE OF HIS INADEQUACIES AS A JOURNALIST AND OBVIOUS REPUBLICAN BIASES. THERE IS NO PLACE IN THE MEDIA FOR HIS SLANTED "JOURNALISM". I WILL NOT STOP MOLESTING BOYS UNTIL HE RESIGNS OR IS FIRED. PLEASE HELP ME IN THIS IMPORTANT CAMPAIGN. FIRE ARMANDO SALGUERO NOW!

It won't happen, but how about Cribbs in the Wildcat? Have fun with that...

Roth could be a help on special teams as well.

Hey Morons... Despite the two drops of lousy Pennington passes, Ted Ginn converted 7 1st down in the Colts game of his 11 catches. You can get strong through lifting. You can teach technique. But you cant get faster, and you cant teach it. Slow is forever. Ted Ginn can catch. he is developing into a good route runner, and he runs like a freaking deer. He is not costing an arm and a leg, and unlike half the receivers in this league he has his head screwed on right and a good attitude to improve. And if you want him at 175 lbs to run into the Ray Lewis's of the world head on then you are never going to get it.
Yea great - keep a player until he blossoms then trade him for a one dimensional special teamer. Thank you Randy Mueller.
Lamebrains ...

I don't think its our return guys, i think its the blocking Mando! You can't get pass the 15 yd line when three guys are already there and hit u!

yea we'll get right on it. especially since you write in caps that makes all the difference.

Brayland Edwards just got traded for for two second day picks and some backups. What do you think Cribbs is going for? Chewing gum? A bag of peanuts? I would give the Browns Matt Roth. Joshua Cribbs doesn't play. He's behind Massaquoi and Robiskie and Chansi Stuckey... And Stuckey just got there! Give them one player or one late round pick. I say Matt Roth, Jason Allen or a 5th or 6th.

Whatever happened to the days when a donkey and an elephant could go out and have a beer and shoot the breeze? I smell a bunch of pansies in here.

Oliver Rubber-
You leftist are the biggest bullies. The majority of the media is leftist but once a person states their mind and it doesn't go along with everything else you used to hearing you want that person fired. I agree that Armando does a great job at SPORTS reporting and should stick to that but am appalled that you wrote "there is no room in the media for his slanted journalism". What you really meant was no room for those that aren't conformed to your beliefs.

ALoco,

R U drinking already? Trade Long or Crowder? Dude.....I hope U R drinking otherwise.....scary

that guy ,
calling some fans morons for saying trade ted gin is the correct word for them .
in old days every farmer has a donkey and they went out having lunch together .

Cribbs runs the Browns version of the Wildcat...we sure could use an upgrade on ST, plus I think he'd be a solid receiver.


Marcus I like that idea better then all the others.I don't like the idea of trading for a return man at all, but Roth has really made me question him.I can't figure out what his problem is...so maybe it's time to trade him.I wouldn't give up any early picks...Maybe a 5th 6th at best.

mando have you heard anything about Miami looking to trade Joey Porter?Getting out of his contract could really help us next year.I said we load up on picks for next years talented draft.

harricane,

what did these two guys do so far this season beside cashin a pay check?

answer me sober man .

The 2010 draft is loaded ! NO DRAFT PICKS BEFORE THE 5 TH ROUND ! Miami has 2 6th rounders and 2 7th rounders. Roth and a combination of those late round picks .


We can either draft a WR or Sign one...some big name WRs are up in free agency.

I love Mays from USC at Safey...this kid is a freak.

One more good draft and I think we have all we need to be the best.

For cribbs.

For the guys who wants to trade for owens, CHILD PLEASE ! You have a better chance to be a dolphin than owens. Parcslls can 't stand him.

Downer12 , S Eric Berry from Tenn is a much better FOOTBALL player than Mays. Mays is a good athlete that has underachieved while berry makes plays all over the football field. Can you say ed reed ?

People that suddenly think Ginn can run by any CB in the league are insane. The only reason he blew by Revis is because it was the first time the entire game he went more than 20 yards down the field. Revis and the safety's were literally shocked for a second or two before they realized he was running a post. Until Ginn catches the balls that every other 1-2-3 receiver in the league catches with regularity, I'm not even remotely sold :-(

I read this blog all the time and you guys make me laugh, we just won TWO division games and have absolutely no special teams blocking, poor tackling or return game. Why not trade for a kick return man who is 3rd in the NFL in punt returns and has a 26.1 average on kickoff returns. We surely don't want Ted Ginn Jr returning punts when he can be scoring long touchdowns from Chad Henne, do we ? (ie: Monday Night)

Cleveland will take a late round pick for Cribbs or he doesn't get traded, but, he can work in this offense and excel in the wildcat, check his stats on the Cleveland Browns website, he rushed for alot of yards too, in addition to receiving and returning both punts and kicks. The player just signed can handle kicks until this trade, hopefully is made.

Trust the Trifecta, people not every GM's drafted players excel or even make an impact on every team. Keep up the good work, Armando !!!!!

I would rather trade for Dwayne Bowe. He has been in the doghouse in KC. Parcells loves dealing with his son in law in KC!

Ginn and Bowe with Bess or Hartline or Camarillo (which ever one we don't trade to KC) in the slot. Brown and Williams in the backfield. Henne at Qb. Wow.

ALoco,

Crowder had a much better game, not so many tackles as he forced them to others. LONG 'nough said. he is going no where else my friend. have a beer buddy.

plus KC still owes a pick...interesting

correction, owes us a pick

NJ,

you owe me apology

harricane, since you think i am drunk let's try this; are you a short man red neck ?

i watched the replay again this afternoon...damn if those zebras didn't try to hand wrap a W for the Jests

so many bad calls on our D backs. clearly bad calls, the secondary "mostly" looked much improved. that Smith tip on the sideline...awesome.

Camarillo's catch on sideline on 3rd was actually a very well placed pass (with touch) from Mr Henne....awesome to times 2 come

well not short but well a mississippi redneck with an education, scary right?

carlito sounds like robert duval in the god father in the court room yelling, ( you owe my client an apology senator ,an apology senator ).

Its amazing how ignorant my fellow fin fans are. Dont be suprised if the trade does not go through. The fins would rather let sheets plat KR than trade a first day pick, tedd ginn, or even Patrick Turner.
I wouldnt mind trading a third and Camarillo for Dwane Bowe.

I trade a LB or a 5,6, or 7 for safeties that's our weakest position right now if we want to stop teams from scoring that's were we start and I'd prefer a vet not a rooke

I don't think we need a returner. We just signed one from San Fran that looks pretty good.
I think we need help in the safety. In fact, I don't think we need help in the safety position, I know we need safety help. We need a big time banger back there. One that shuts stuff down. Wasn't Wilson sleeping on that first td? I mean he only had to cove the guy for 10 yards. They had nowhere else to go.
If you never hit a receiver they will keep on beatin you bad.
And I don't care about the 15 yards. Tack it on but you ain't doing that s$$t in my house.

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