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Porter talking to the talk but bumbling the walk

Trash-talking has its place in the NFL because, to a certain degree, it is entertainment. It turns up the volume on games and individual matchups. It piques the interest of the otherwise disinterested.

But trash-talking should be like a baton leading an orchestra. The words should be biting and true and sharp and, ultimately, should be backed up with action. Used that way, it sounds great.

Joey Porter uses it like a hammer banging on drums. It often has no rhyme, reason or rhythm. Lately, it is rarely backed up with on-field production. Coming from him now, trash talk sounds like noise.

And that's not all of it. Porter has throughout his Miami career made statements that give pause, and when he fails to back up those statements during games, he often disappears afterward. That's what he did last week when he ripped the NFL and Tom Brady, had a bad game, and then didn't speak with a crush of waiting reporters afterward.

Porter hung a bull's-eye on himself before the game, but dodged the bullets afterward.

So Porter's trash-talking ways, entertaining and even interesting when he first arrived in 2007, have grown old and tired. And the fact that Porter this year is not backing up his words with production on the field makes his trash talk a smelly, rotting pile of garbage.

That pile began to collect when Porter boldly predicted a victory over the Oakland Raiders in 2007. The Dolphins lost as the Raiders rushed for 299 yards.

He infamously called out the NFL and then-Jaguars receiver Matt Jones last year because the player was still performing after having been caught with cocaine in his car during the offseason. How could the NFL allow such a thing, Porter growled on a national conference call.

Except he didn't know the NFL had already issued a suspension for Jones and the reason Jones was still playing is he had appealed the ruling. Oops.

Last year he called out Matt Cassel.

Last week he called out Brady and the NFL.

He called out the Jets before the first meeting between the teams this year. The Jets lost, but that was because the offense had a great night even as the New York offense lit up Porter and the Miami defense.

Before the second meeting this year, Porter said he was focused on putting Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez on the sideline "wearing an icebag." 

Porter didn't get close to Sanchez and didn't have even one tackle.

Fact is, even as Porter has continued to be one of the loudest voices in the Miami locker room, his production has dropped to a whisper. He is 15th on the team with 12 tackles. He is fourth on the team with 2.5 sacks. And he has not had a full sack since September, meaning October was a pretty bad month.

Last week Porter questioned the NFL and Brady. He suggested Brady is afraid of being hit and when he is, can basically call for an official to throw a roughing the passer penalty. And I guess one can say those things, questioning Brady's toughness and impugning the NFL's fair-mindedness, if you prove your point on game day.

But on Sunday, in a game the Dolphins needed to win to stay in the AFC East race, Porter didn't contribute a sack. Or even a tackle.

Someone working at Gillette Stadium decided to mock Porter for his big mouth and puny stats by showing the defeated player on the losing sideline as the final seconds ticked off the clock. Porter's statistics, or lack of them, accompanied the shot.

It was a bad move, as I wrote in my Monday column, because it showed very poor sportsmanship -- mocking an already defeated opponent.

But the reams of e-mails I got from Patriots fans basically made the point that Porter deserved it. And while I don't agree anyone deserves such treatment, Porter certainly set himself up for it with his big talk before the game and bumbling walk during the game.

So where do we go from here?

Well, it would be nice if Porter tipped the scales more toward tackles than talk, more toward hurries than harangue, more toward sacks than smack.

Talk the talk if you must, Joey Porter. But please walk the walk.

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Well one things for sure, two things for certain, Joey will not be back next year. He cant defend the run, he isnt getting to the quarterback and its time to go back to Bakersfield, CA and be a big shot there.

first!

Replace Porter with Wake. NOW.

Damn you Armando!

Dear mr. Salguero

The smartest thing to come out of Joey Porters mouth was Einsteins pe-nis.

Ok that was in bad taste.

Soiled :)

Is that really fair though? Hasnt porter been double teamed and accounted for on almost every snap?

You think you got game? You think you can take me? You aint got nothing. My 85 year old grandma can whip you in any sport. You're weak and slow. You so dumb you think a quarterback is a refund.

Soiled Bottom

By that do you mean Einstein left a bad taste somewhere?

No doubt, Porter and Crowder need to shut the hell up and do something. Actually, I hope they are gone next year.

WAKE!!! WAKE!!! WAKE!!! WAKE!!! WAKE!!! WAKE!!!WAKE!!! WAKE!!! WAKE!!! WAKE!!! WAKE!!! WAKE!!! WAKE!!! WAKE!!! WAKE!!!

I think we are forgetting the type of teams we are facing. These arent bottom of the barrel teams, these are all excellent teams with excellent offensive and defensive lines...

"And the fact that Porter this year is not backing up his words with production on the field makes his trash talk a smelly, rotting pile of garbage."

Which is a great way to describe the Miami Dolphins. Smelly. Rotting. Garbage.

Fitting that he is one of the unofficial spokespersons of the team isn't it.

Porter has been invisible ALL SEASON LONG. He needs to shut up and start producing. I would rather see Jason and Cam Wake rushing the passer. Bench Porter and go for productivity over profanity. Porter isn't an asset at this point. Play the players, not the talkers. Maybe we'll have a way to hit Brady on the re-match (12/06/09) and he'll be forced into bad throws. Or it will be another long day.

Go Dolphins.

I think what they did at Gillette was great!! Make your bed, lay in it. Last year, big mouth big production. This year Big mouth Big Bagel.

Armando,

With all due respect.

But trash-talking should be like a baton leading an orchestra.

C'mon MAN!!!!

I'm not defending Porter's stats or talk. I think he whiffed in both categories but:

But trash-talking should be like a baton leading an orchestra.

I love analogies but this one sounds a little wussified. C'mon MAN!!!!

Trash can be a very effective tool when used properly. Keep it out of the press and off opponets bulletin boards. Use it on the field. Get inside somebodies head. Get him off his square.

Joey I thought you were better than that. Trash talking and linebacking.

Joey Joey Joey!!!!

Tortured, does your mom make you pay rent out of your unemployment check? Go find a job.

Dear Mr. Salguero

My apologies for the Einsteins pe-nis reference for what comes out of Joey Porters mouth.

What I meant to say was if Joey Porter farts and there are no talking heads to smell it did he really fart ?

No no thats not it.

What I really mean to say is Joey please shut up and earn your keep.

Soiled :)

I can't stand trashtalking period. And I agree Armando about Porter: talk the talk when you can walk the walk.
He had nerve to open his mouth when the team is under .500 and not playing well on ALL levels and that includes him!

Didn't dig the scoreboard thing but what goes around comes around!

somebody needs to start getting to the QB, I don't care who it is. Brady had all day in the pocket.

At the risk of offending Joey's inflated ego, I would bench his A$Z. This isn't a knee jerk reaction from frustrated fans. It's an objective look at the facts. 12 tackles in 8 games? 2.5 sacks? Are you kidding me?
Benching Porter wouldn't hurt our run D in the slightest. On the contrary(and according to the FACTS), it would improve it.
Short term "FIX": Bench Porter and start JT at ROLB. Play Roth at LOLB on running downs and Wake on passing down!!!!

TONY I hope you're reading this, and with all due respect, you're WELCOME!!!!

Look at N Englands O Line they are mostly first round picks. They spent years building that line.

Say what you want about Joey Porter, but at least he's honest about his feelings and not the fraud that Tom Brady and the Patriots are. During the week, Brady and the Patriots say all the right things publicly, but it's when no one is looking that they do the cheap dirty things that makes other teams hate them. Case in point, go and look at the CBS broadcast tape of Sunday's game and go to late in the fourth quarter. The Dolphins have the ball and Ronnie Brown takes the handoff, runs for a few yards and goes out of bounds into the Patriots sideline. Brown stops, turns around, doesn't say a word and starts to head back on the field while he's carrying the ball in one hand. Brady is standing on the sidelines and brings up his hand and tries to swat the ball out of Ronnie's hand like he is tough or something. Brady was not quick enough to do it as he missed, but if you look at the tape Brady was trying to act like a tough guy or instigate something with Brown. It was the same before their wonderful humilation in the Super Bowl against the Giants two years ago, when before the game, Brady was warming up and Eli Manning and the Giants ran onto the field casually. Manning ran up to Brady good naturedly, and said hello and Brady just started yelling and barking at him like a madman. Eli looked at Brady like "Dude, your nuts" and ran off. Brady got his butt whipped that day by the Giants pass rush and the Patriots got dumped. Throw all that into the mix, and what they did with Spygate and the Patriots and Brady are frauds. Porter does it in public which brings the heat when he doesn't perform, but Brady and the Patriots do it when no one is looking on the field, so spare me the outrage about Porter. Every NFL team has players that do this, and always will and it is the nature of the game. Ever see the Patriots when they lose, they have alot to say after they lose which isn't very gracious, and considering they haven't won a Super Bowl in almost FIVE years they have lost a few since their last Super Bowl win in 2005.

The Patriots are sneaks, Porter just does it in public. It's about talent and not what people say. The Dolphins are getting there people, but everyone needs to realize just how badly the rebuilding process was set back by Saban and Cameron's mess coming on the heels of the Wanny fiasco. Just be patient, in the next two years we will be fine, and this year is not quite done yet.

WOW!!! Odinseye I couldnt agree with u more sit Porter start Roth bring in Wake on passing downs...sounds like a plan to me ...Hey MANDO get Tony on the horn immediately and tell him to read this blog...we are educated fans not morons who dont know the game ..and oh by the way tell him...
he's welcome!!!

Shut up and play.

I can't stand trashtalking period. And I agree Armando about Porter: talk the talk when you can walk the walk.
He had nerve to open his mouth when the team is under .500 and not playing well on ALL levels and that includes him!

Didn't dig the scoreboard thing but what goes around comes around!

Posted by: tzey | November 10, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Trash talking can be a useful weapon. Especially against weak minded individuals that will let that sort of thing get to them.
I'm a Warrior to the end and I will use any and every weapon at my disposal. When my .380 clip goes dry, my handgun becomes a hammer!
I just don't like the way Porter does it. He got the entire Patsy team fired up, coaches included. What good is that?
When you put a spin move on the tackle and get a sack rub it in. Help the QB up and let him know you'll be right back. Slap the tackle on his A$Z and thank him.
All I'm saying is do it on the field. Not in the media.

Coach Shula.

found the link youtube.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihtdfqk3Ga4

brady is a punk, not even a quick witted punk.

Porter's act has become a minstrel show....he goes on NFL network & various other national outlets, talks tough, and does not realize that the hosts are egging him on at best or laughing at (not with) him at worst. Tired, very tired.

Play Cam Wake & put JT in his 'natural' position

I agree with you Mando that Porter needs to back up what he says. But I think you're taking it a bit too far. He didn't instigate these things, he just answered questions that were posed by, you the media. And he doesn't hold his tongue. I'm an avid football watcher (and fantasy player) and EVERYONE in my league said the same thing about Brady. Porter just said what everyone was already thinking. As far as his production, that's another story, and I'm right with you there. For whatever reason, Porter's not getting pressure on the QB like last year. Sparano says it's because he's being asked to do other things. I'll leave it to the coaching staff to determine if he's the best fit or if we can upgrade at that position. All I'll say is that I like players on this team who don't back down from anyone, stands up for their squad, and is just all-around scrappy. I think that's what you look for in a football player, and Porter is definitely that (even if in a dimished role this year). With that said, MY type of player is more like Jake Long or Ronnie Brown, just put your head down and give it all you got type of professionalism, but I don't mind Joey Porter on this team one bit!

Harungue?

More towards hurries than harangue?

Joey less SMACK and more SACK!

Great another Brian Cox!

Don't really care what the flippen game film shows or whos double temed or being chipped.

Quit making excuses on this team and make some flippen plays and win games you are leading in. Quit giving up 1 and 2 play drives after Ricky and Ronnie pound more heads than your defense.

Go Phins!

Brian Cox, for all his flaws, made plays and ALWAYS played hard.

odinseye think he tough, wow what a pussycat.

Cameron Wake needs to get more playing time. He's been doing an awesome job with every oppotunity he's been given.

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Must be a pretty slow day Mandy...I'd like to hear some quotes from these LOSERS...At least I could laugh then...

odinseye think he tough, wow what a pussycat.

Posted by: c | November 10, 2009 at 12:33 PM

C - You ain't BAD! You ain't nothing MAN(spoken in the voice of Michael Jackson)!!!!

Soiled Bottom, the fact that you "sign" your name as if you are branding yourself is ridiculous. To everyone here, your name is out of context, so while I'm sure in your head you are being cute, to anyone else it is lame.
Now sure, most people are ignoring such a conceded thing to do, but I however am a bitter old man, and therefore absolutely make myself feel better by making others realize when they are being retarded. The name "Soiled Bottom" isn't a good name, regardless of the context you mean it. But then you have the high-and-mightyness to actually shorten it when you sign off by writing "Soiled," as if you have an audience of people here who know who you are or something. We are not YOUR fans... (although that implies that we are "fans" of Armando, of which I certainly am not, but that's a different story.)

Ray Ray :)

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Posted by: Ironside | November 10, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Ironside,

Moderator's not quite what I had in mind. I fancy myself more of a hybrid "posy by post color commentator"

Call Me!!!!

STFU, Joey!

Bitter Old Man,

To everyone here, your name is out of context, so while I'm sure in your head you are being cute, to anyone else it is lame.

I don't speak for every one here and though you like to pretrend you do. DON'T!!!!

I personally think Soiled's Bottom is cute!!!!

Forget about Porter - forget about the loss even - what REALLY has me steamed is the way the Gillette Stadium scoreboard controller deliberately stopped the clock at one second at the end of the 1st half. This was malicious, meretricious, malfeasance (and was not very nice). Shades of the "Snow Plow Game" came back to me. The injustice of it all! There's NO WAY if the Dolphins have the ball that the scoreboard guy doesn't let that last second run off.

Armando, where is your outrage?

Porter is still a Dolphin so Go get em Joey! Go get it done!

Jpeazy talks to us cause we's bros. And cause we don't ask why he is sucking.

good point nathaniel

Joey Porter has to talk because otherwise we wouldn't know he's still on the team.

Valid points Mando, except for Porter stating Brady is officially the NFL's biggest pu**y!! I've never seen anything like it; if he gets hit, he's whinning like a lil bi**h and looking for a flag!! He needs to retire and spend the rest of his life cuddled in Giselle's arms where she can protect him!!

Porter is still a Dolphin, r2d2? How do you know? You seen him make even one play since September?

He's been in more pregame brawls this year than he has sacks.

for his trash talking, there was one moment on Sunday when he knocked Brady over and Brady then looked at the ref for a flag. Brady is a top notch QB prob the best but after the injury he looks at the ref after every play looking for a flag.

Maybe we can have a Henne rule, when your head snaps back like his did we get a free TD

Nathaniel Dodsworth,

I couldn't agree with you more.
I was taking a rather large pull on me Rum and Coke, as I usually do in nerve racking situations. When I saw that 1 second left on the clock, I nearly spit it out at me TV.

Anyway, I agree. Your observations are most astute(big words and all).

odinseye,
i love reading your posts but please try not to use the WORD after Rum and ?????

Dear Mr. Ray Ray Berg

"Soiled Bottom, the fact that you "sign" your name as if you are branding yourself is ridiculous(because I say so). To everyone here, your name is out of context(It should be changed to Ray Rays SoiledBottom), so while I'm sure in your head you are being cute(While enjoying my daily cup of Dolphin coffee), to anyone else it is lame(That makes me sad :( ).
Now sure, most people are ignoring such a conceded thing to do(can always skip the post when you see the name ), but I however am a bitter old man( again that makes me sad :( ), and therefore absolutely make myself feel better by making others realize when they are being retarded(your welcome for all the help I have provided). The name "Soiled Bottom" isn't a good name(DolphinBottom would be much better), regardless of the context you mean it. But then you have the high-and-mightyness(High yes...mightyness not so much) to actually shorten it when you sign off by writing "Soiled," as if you have an audience of people here(Even though posts clearly addressed to Mr. Salguero) who know who you are or something. We are not YOUR fans(Sorry I do not give refunds)... (although that implies that we are "fans" of Armando, of which I certainly am not, but that's a different story.)

Ray Ray :)

Edited for my enjoyment

Soiled :)

P.S. I think age is catching up with both Porter and Taylor(sports talk)

Porter's out of gas. He can't physically play this sport anymore, and he should just retire.

the scoreboard clock thing is the worst of all. The pass is not incomplete until the ball hits the ground. Out of bounds or not. It seemed as if as soon as it bounced off the receiver's hands the clock stopped.

Oh, and why is Porter starting ahead of Wake? I understand the coaching staff believes Wake is weak against the run... BUT:

HOW CAN WAKE BE ANY WORST THAN A GUY THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE A SINGLE TACKLE IN A MUST WIN GAME?!?

I'd seriously like the Miami coaching staff to answer that one.

I'm not sure I believe this, but is it fair to say that Porter is getting doubled and blocked each play, so it's the ones who are not doubled and accounted for are the ones who are failing? Drawing the attention of the offense does serve a purpose. Discuss! (someone posted something like this earlier but I didn't see responses)

I wish Porter and Taylor would just face the fact that their past level of exertion each play is not enough to get it done anymore. Quit worrying about being injured and go balls to the wall. If you get hurt, so be it. You weren't doing anything for us anyway. Play like there is no tomorrow because, well, at 3-5 there is no tomorrow.

realist,

Sorry, but Porter isn't being double teamed on every play. In fact, he's being blocked many times by TE's and getting manhandled by those TE's.

But even if he were getting double teamed, that doesn't explain how he couldn't even make a single tackle against the Pats.

GoPats,

My bad.
In the future I will try to be more considerate to those of us who are, shall I say, sane and soberly challenged.

Tommya,

Good and valid "rebutall".

Joey hasn't been doubled very often. After 8 games he's not producing.
This is not the first time he's been blanked this season. He did it twice, both times against division rivals in must win games.

I'm not trying to make Joey a scape goat or anything like that. He's just not getting it done. Time for the coaching staff to make a move.

Let's play Wake more - give him the reps to learn how to play the run - the guy seems sensational as a pass rusher. What's the wort that could happen? We hurt JP or JTs feelings - not whole lotta production from JP. Or will end up with a losing record - oops we already have a losing record.

coaching SUCKS and so does porter! matt roth on rushing downs and wake on passing downs!!!! armando nailed it;he's not afraid to tell it like it is. sparano's in denial. porters his pet.

He never gave any guarantees about anything. He said Brady gets a lot of calls, and like him or not, it's true. He said the Pats were caught cheating, and they did.

He does need to produce more, but his comments last week weren't the least bit controversial. This is one time where everyone but him is talking too much.

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