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The reason Patrick Turner hasn't played

Many of you have asked me over and over why Patrick Turner isn't active on Sundays because you continue to be frustrated by other Miami receivers that don't necessarily light up scoreboards or stat sheets with explosive plays.

Well, today I asked coach Tony Sparano his reasoning for not having Turner active and that resulted in some interesting stuff.

First, Sparano promises Turner's day is coming. He doesn't want this season to end without having a grasp of whether Turner is a possible contributor long term or not.

But, secondly, Sparano really likes what his current crop of receivers bring to the table -- yes, it's hard to believe, but stay with me on this.

"Pat is getting better, but it also has a lot to do with the other players and the jobs they do and how they're doing in the game," Sparano said Wednesday. "I mean Davone Bess is second in the NFL to the guy in New York [Steve Smith] in third-down receptions. OK? Well, [Greg] Camarillo is 10 of 10 [on third down] right now. He's had 10 balls thrown at him right now and he's converted 10 of them. So he's eighth on that list.

"We think they don't make plays but those guys are making plays. It's one of the reasons we're second in the league on third down conversion. Teddy [Ginn] is a return guy for us that's been getting better and better at it. Ginn, I thought had a good game the other day returning the football and is also a receiver that can make a big play for us.

"And [Brian] Hartline has been productive out there in a lot of phases. What you don't see is Hartline is in there about 8 to 10 plays on special teams and has been productive there, too."

So it becomes hard, in Sparano's mind, to bench one of the four guys already playing ahead of Turner. And playing five is pretty much out of the question at the moment.

"We're not going to take five to the game at this second," the coach said. "I don't feel like that's a good deal right at this time. You never know. That can change. But somebody's got to stay back. At this point it's been Pat. But I do want to get Patrick Turner involved."

Let's hope so because regardless of how much the other guys are bringing to the game, it simply has not been good enough. The Dolphins are 29th in the NFL passing the football. That is, well, terrible.

Miami wide receivers have combined for two touchdowns this year. I count 26 individual receivers among the NFL's top 60 scorers that have at least four TDs. There are 37 individual receivers with at least three touchdowns. Like, by themselves. 

My opinion?

The Dolphins love special teams contribution but the contribution they're talking about with Hartline is not game-changing. He's not going to take a punt to the house. He hasn't made a TD-saving tackle. He has not blocked a kick. So would the Miami special teams collapse if Hartline isn't playing Sunday? I don't think so.

Turner, on the other hand, might be a solid red zone threat and a tough matchup against almost any cornerback. I have no clue how well he's improved his blocking (which needed improvement) but the idea of a 6-5, 220-pound perimeter blocker doing work downfield is enticing to me.

Anyway, at some point, Sparano promises Turner will get a looksee. 

"I want to get him involved," he said. "He's got to keep working in practice like he is and at some point his number is going to get called."

By the way, Sparano disagrees with anyone who believes Miami's passing game problems are mostly found in the WR corps. Aside from being 29th in passing, the club is also 29th in passing net yards per play, suggesting no one is picking up YAC (yards after catch).

The fact is the Dolphins are the only team in the NFL whose passing game could be described as "Three Yards and a Cloud of Dust."

But the coach says the receivers aren't exceedingly responsible for the passing game problems.

"I wouldn't say too much," Sparano said. "I would say part of it is we're fourth in the league or third in the league in rushing so we've run it a bunch. We've had a lot rushing opportunities. I think there's a lot of people responsible for why you don't throw it. Right now we have 23 sacks -- that's responsible for why you don't do well throwing it.

"There's a lot of elements involved. The quarterback's involved. The receivers are involved, no doubt about it. We've had some dropped balls, some unexecuted route depths, those type of things are things from the receiver position that can be different."

Gotta be different, actually.


Injury update: Paul Soliai (ankle), Joey Porter (knee), Justin Smiely (shoulder) and Erik Walden (hamstring) did not practice Tuesday. Anthony Fasano (hip) was limited. Channing Crowder and Jason Ferguson are back to full practice.


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Chimichurri sounds strangly like a certain plumber from Jersey..

Mange I got to favorito Pan con salchicha y se acavo el pan

dying breed,

How short was the bus they made you ride to school in? This will help us decide how nice to be to you.

killerdolphins wife is so fat, I had to roll over twice to get off of her

The coach only has what he has. he will have to finish the season with his receivers, win or lose thats all we have wont do any good to beat them down in the public.

Cuban Menace is donkeys

Chimmi, You taste great on steak...

Tony sparano has Been a knuckle head lately.

Thanks Mando!

Parcells in the old days would have answered a lot different as in. Somebody better catch the damn ball!

9 for 9 rediculous! along with all those other stats.

Does he think we are idiots? We may not be coaches but even my daughter watching the game knows waht a dropped pass is.

Maybe with a tall atheletic Turner you get 17 for 21. Because he gets the ball thrown to him because he is friggen open. Maybe those other guys have those stats because they never get the ball thrown. They are not open.

How about a nice big target? I was beyond pumped when we got this guy.

I thought it was because he couldn't learn the playbook? Now its because the other guys are Doing so great?

Gonzalez, V. Jackson, Gates, D. Clark, B. Edwards, Moss, Welker, Colston, Shockey. NO SPECIAL TEAMS THEY JUST MAKE SPECIAL PLAYS!

I think Sparno ATE THE CHEESE As he likes to say. This recieving corp sucks!

Don't insult the fans! We are loyal but we are not blind and stupid!

Rebuild this team now play all the youngsters!
This team isn't that far but it isn't winning crap this year!



Like I said martin sparano and the staff have been knuckle heads.

I luv Sparano but he's not getting impt pieces this year. For example: Wake, clock mngt, being firmer w Henning and in overestimating the skillset at wr. It is amazing to me after a full training camp that the coaching staff did not understand Ginns limitations at wr!!!

I like sparano also I just wish he'd wake up and start making better choices.

Third down stats? Third down ?

Yeah that's because they keep dropping 1st and 2nd down passes.

Tony I don't mind you blowing smoke to save face for YOU and your WR's. Just don't try blowing up my AZ$!!!!


I meant blowing smoke up my AZ$!!!!

My BAD!!!!

replace Pat with Pat ... the WhiteCat just doesn't do it .. take away one run and it has been abysmal all year ...

a fifth receiver on game day would make better sense to me ... keep White on the bench unless Henne goes down ...

call me crazy but i think miami might pick up larry johnson. i think they are going to part ways with ronnie after this year for salary cap reasons. and larry coupd be a cheap replacement considering his stock is so low. adam schefter has said that two of the teams interested are two teams you would never think. well, no one is thinking miami.

they are wr in every draft you just have to find them. they need to bring in f/a wr and draft one in early rd trade bees and cam. keep turner and hartline.


I was with you right up to "unless Henne goes down..."

If Henne goes down, I would go with Thigpen, even with limited knowledge of the playbook.

I'm starting to ignore everything Tony Sparano says. He might think he's smart protecting his players. But the mob buys tickets and they demand the truth.

Can I get an amen?

Pat White is playing like a scared rabbit right now.

He needs to be in the gun with some spread formations. Unfortunately we don't have the personel at reciever for a spread.

play turner ,were not goin anywere fast its time. in big games[saints,new england] the wr we have cant catch let him play, ginn is a kick returner so make turner the 4th wide out and someone tell me why wake is not playin he is the only pass rush we have it seems the coach is playin to loose!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm starting to tire of Sparano and his lack of judgement. Cameron Wake sits on the bench most of the time and is arguably our best pass rusher. It drove me nuts to see Brady back there waiting for his wr's to get open all day. Wake comes in for 3 plays sacks Brady and back on the bench he goes for the rest of the game. Tuener may be great but if Sparano consistantly sit Wake, I do not trust his judgement on Turner. I hate to say it because I'm a huge fan, but I have lost trust and confidence in Sparano's decision making.

Get him in the game before the season is over and lets see what we got. If he is not the redzone posession WR we need then we can get that and a #1 WR in the draft but if he is then we can scratch it off our list of needs.

Someone said 'deactivate Bess'. Couldn't agree more. What exactly HAS Bess done this season. I think he's one of the biggest disappointments on the team. I really expected him to step up this season. Turner in the Red Zone and Bess on the bench. Betcha the results are better.

I gotta believe Sparano is trying to stay positive because he wants all his players to know he has their full confidence and support. Behind closed doors though, I'm sure Sparano knows the Dolphins are lacking big-time at the receiver position. Sparano mentioned the 23 sacks. Well, most of those sacks have been coverage sacks where Henne hangs on to the ball too long cause the receivers aren't getting open quick enough.

Ok, Sparano is pissing me off now. He can't sit here and tell anyone with a straight face that there is nothing wrong with the wr's. Does he think we buy that crap?!! If he truly believes that then I don't want him to be the head coach next year. I understand he doesn't like calling people out but come on!!




Sparano's thought process makes no sense. The Dolphins ran 70 plays on offense Sunday. They were involved in only 15 total special teams plays (7 kickoffs, 8 punts and 5 field goal attempts - excludes PAT's).

That ratio is over 4 to 1 offensive plays to special teams plays. The way he talks about the importance of special teams you would think it was the opposite.

I understand the importance of 3rd down conversion but our overall passing offense is horrible and it is now affecting our rushing offense as teams stack the box (see the decline from 1st in the last 3 weeks).

Stop with all of the excuses and play Turner!!!

YOU guy's are unbelievable.do you really expect Sparano to throw his recievers underneath the bus,when he is addressing the media?its not like he can go get 4 new recievers this year,so why be negative about the situation.I pretty sure sparano is real tough and brutely honest with them away from the media.remember,they are like family.

Problem with this team is Defense Sucks! Stop a drive and you won't need gin to catch a pass.


I don't expect him to throw his receivers under the bus but c'mon we "that stupid to believe his crap and it makes me like Sparano less and less everytime I read his zig zag talk that explains nothing just rambles on. I hate when he says something he has to back it up with " I really do." Example, "I think we have a good set of receivers that give us a chance to compete every week, I really do!" That is how I know he is lying!

Call it like it is don't blow smoke up our @ss Coach is full of sh*t!!!

We need a standout WR a deep threat WR some one who can get open.the other teams no we dont have any of that.These guys haft the time cant get open. Oh well Chris Chambers 2 touch downs and 70 yards in recieveing sunday WTG chambers.

The fans will respect him more when he is real! Right now he looks like a rodeo clown!!



Monkey Go find Bradys blog you loser

the plumber is at it again.he should go back to the gym .

Oh Monkey you are clueless

banana WIllie

Sparano will ideally play Turner this week.

As I said before, the BUCS game should be the easiest of what's left and he wouldn't hurt the team as much if he's a ghost on the field.

We currently don't have the horses to compete with elite teams. Sparano has to coach with smoke and mirrors because of lack of talent

Management inherited a team with mostly bad players; they can’t replace all of them at once the system does not allow it. They took care of QB, OL, CB and DL.

Our Wide Receiver, Safeties, Linebackers are mediocre at best. Hopefully they will take care of it next year and we will be ready to rumble.

The best things that happen for the long run was that Pennington and Allen got hurt enabling the rookies to get experience. We were not going anywhere this year. They need to play Patrick Turner to see what we got not just because he is 6'5".

where's DyingBreed when we need him ?

Sparano could also step on their confidence,if he went negative on them publically.as a group,the recievers know they are not getting it done,the coaches know that,and we as fans know that,so no public ridicule from sparano is necessary.

We currently don't have the horses to compete with elite teams. Sparano has to coach with smoke and mirrors because of lack of talent

Management inherited a team with mostly bad players; they can’t replace all of them at once the system does not allow it. They took care of QB, OL, CB and DL.

Our Wide Receiver, Safeties, Linebackers are mediocre at best. Hopefully they will take care of it next year and we will be ready to rumble.

The best things that happen for the long run was that Pennington and Allen got hurt enabling the rookies to get experience. We were not going anywhere this year. They need to play Patrick Turner to see what we got not just because he is 6'5".

I don't agree look at Ginn that little scared goat plays better when he has a chip on his shoulder

killer has a good point as always .

Thankyou monkey

you welcome prince of darkness .did you ever been in jail killer ?

Hasn't everyone?

in your proud family ? yeeeeeees

If thats true,then Ginn should be playing at a pro bowl level,because he constantly critcized.

Don't talk to your daddy like that tell you mother I'll be home soon

dying breed,

How short was the bus they made you ride to school in? This will help us decide how nice to be to you.

Posted by: chimichurri | November 11, 2009 at 07:45 PM

Sorry chimichunga,

Didnt take the short yellow bus, but I did drive your moms purple, pink and lime green Yugo while she blowed me. Allowing me to always arrive at school with a smile for miles and miles and miles........

killer is a rare donkey

>shut up you whiny fans. Man up or go root for the pathetic jets...

whinny is right. Next will be lame-o analogies comparing the Govt to the team...

Oh wait, some idiot's already posted one.

It was pretty sad how dying breed was trying to play in Spanish. Those of us that speak Spanish knew there was something wrong about the way dying breed was communicating himself. What a stupid loser, no wonder NJ is relentless in stopping that cockroach

Nothing like the week before the jets game that's when he got demoted and that game he broke an NFL record

No more rice pudding for you Senei!

WHERE'S carlito monkito

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