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The reason Patrick Turner hasn't played

Many of you have asked me over and over why Patrick Turner isn't active on Sundays because you continue to be frustrated by other Miami receivers that don't necessarily light up scoreboards or stat sheets with explosive plays.

Well, today I asked coach Tony Sparano his reasoning for not having Turner active and that resulted in some interesting stuff.

First, Sparano promises Turner's day is coming. He doesn't want this season to end without having a grasp of whether Turner is a possible contributor long term or not.

But, secondly, Sparano really likes what his current crop of receivers bring to the table -- yes, it's hard to believe, but stay with me on this.

"Pat is getting better, but it also has a lot to do with the other players and the jobs they do and how they're doing in the game," Sparano said Wednesday. "I mean Davone Bess is second in the NFL to the guy in New York [Steve Smith] in third-down receptions. OK? Well, [Greg] Camarillo is 10 of 10 [on third down] right now. He's had 10 balls thrown at him right now and he's converted 10 of them. So he's eighth on that list.

"We think they don't make plays but those guys are making plays. It's one of the reasons we're second in the league on third down conversion. Teddy [Ginn] is a return guy for us that's been getting better and better at it. Ginn, I thought had a good game the other day returning the football and is also a receiver that can make a big play for us.

"And [Brian] Hartline has been productive out there in a lot of phases. What you don't see is Hartline is in there about 8 to 10 plays on special teams and has been productive there, too."

So it becomes hard, in Sparano's mind, to bench one of the four guys already playing ahead of Turner. And playing five is pretty much out of the question at the moment.

"We're not going to take five to the game at this second," the coach said. "I don't feel like that's a good deal right at this time. You never know. That can change. But somebody's got to stay back. At this point it's been Pat. But I do want to get Patrick Turner involved."

Let's hope so because regardless of how much the other guys are bringing to the game, it simply has not been good enough. The Dolphins are 29th in the NFL passing the football. That is, well, terrible.

Miami wide receivers have combined for two touchdowns this year. I count 26 individual receivers among the NFL's top 60 scorers that have at least four TDs. There are 37 individual receivers with at least three touchdowns. Like, by themselves. 

My opinion?

The Dolphins love special teams contribution but the contribution they're talking about with Hartline is not game-changing. He's not going to take a punt to the house. He hasn't made a TD-saving tackle. He has not blocked a kick. So would the Miami special teams collapse if Hartline isn't playing Sunday? I don't think so.

Turner, on the other hand, might be a solid red zone threat and a tough matchup against almost any cornerback. I have no clue how well he's improved his blocking (which needed improvement) but the idea of a 6-5, 220-pound perimeter blocker doing work downfield is enticing to me.

Anyway, at some point, Sparano promises Turner will get a looksee. 

"I want to get him involved," he said. "He's got to keep working in practice like he is and at some point his number is going to get called."

By the way, Sparano disagrees with anyone who believes Miami's passing game problems are mostly found in the WR corps. Aside from being 29th in passing, the club is also 29th in passing net yards per play, suggesting no one is picking up YAC (yards after catch).

The fact is the Dolphins are the only team in the NFL whose passing game could be described as "Three Yards and a Cloud of Dust."

But the coach says the receivers aren't exceedingly responsible for the passing game problems.

"I wouldn't say too much," Sparano said. "I would say part of it is we're fourth in the league or third in the league in rushing so we've run it a bunch. We've had a lot rushing opportunities. I think there's a lot of people responsible for why you don't throw it. Right now we have 23 sacks -- that's responsible for why you don't do well throwing it.

"There's a lot of elements involved. The quarterback's involved. The receivers are involved, no doubt about it. We've had some dropped balls, some unexecuted route depths, those type of things are things from the receiver position that can be different."

Gotta be different, actually.


Injury update: Paul Soliai (ankle), Joey Porter (knee), Justin Smiely (shoulder) and Erik Walden (hamstring) did not practice Tuesday. Anthony Fasano (hip) was limited. Channing Crowder and Jason Ferguson are back to full practice.


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sorry to ruin your fun, but I am from Florida smart guy

I say NJ, he say he a hulk who knows martial art and bench press alot. He maybe a liar.
Then again dyinng breed got big mouth and pencil neck. a toss up

chimmichuri prove it you from Florida then what town and zip...be qucik

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whut da ya call it where the doc has to cut open the stomach of a pregnant woman to liver the baby?

anyhow i did that to my baby sister wit my ole rusty and trusty pocket nife. the baby lived but my lil sister hasnt walked a day since.

can anybody tell me whut i did wrong?

chimmi, boy you are fast, as your girl would say hahaha, I guess you are not NJ,

I hate the two red neck sounding fools

xcm, i hate the porto rican sounding killerdolphins, illegal alien dufus

Ya'Allin R carazzayy

whudaya call it when the doc has to cut open the stomach of a pregnant woman to liver the baby?

anyhow i did it to my lil sister, with my trusty rusty pocketnife. the baby libved but she hasnt been able to walk again a day since.

Can anybody tell me whut i did wrog?

Is that were your friends uncle lives!
The closest you been to MIA is a postcard

This is a perfect example of how statistics can lie. Sparano, God bless him, tells us, "look at these great third down stats our receivers have." I say great, but ANOTHER way of looking at it is that the Dolphins are getting into way too many third down situations on offense, so of course, our receivers have all these conversions. What this means is, we are not making first downs on first and second down plays because we don't have any explosive playmakers in the passing game. None. And that is why our receivers are catching so many third down balls.

Thus, if you want to believe our receiving corps is just fine, then borrow Tony's rose-colored eyeglasses. You'll need them for the rest of the year.

Personally, I prefer 3-D glasses, as it makes the numbers on the players jerseys really jump out, which is more entertaining than watching Ginn & Co. drop passes all day.

I think Armando's about to blog about Vontae playing with an attitude.


I never posted on this blog before today. Why do you have a problem with me? I am a dolphins fan that wants to talk about the dolphins.

I haven't seen you say one thing about football.

You sound like you have alot of hate in you. god bless. go dolphins.

Ass Monkey you think you can hide behind your name LMAO!! Child Please! I got a baby for you to KISS! LMAO!!!

my lil sister said she caught chimichurri after i bred with her.

You cant hide behind the name chimmichhuri ahahahhahahahahahahahha

what are you talking about? do you even like the dolphins?

You are sad monkey I know you envy me and are threatened by me but to try and be me scary


This is a perfect example of how statistics can lie. Sparano, God bless him, tells us, "look at these great third down stats our receivers have." I say great, but ANOTHER way of looking at it is that the Dolphins are getting into way too many third down situations on offense,

I posted the same thing earlier.

Tony's caught between a rock and a hard place. It's a feeble attempt at spinning out some damage control.

He and the Trifecta are the sole blame. They decided to go the season with these guys. They can't very well come out and say it. This would lead into making a very bad situation worse.

The only explanation that makes any sense to me is sick. They apparently didn't think the team would be as competitive as it is. I think they thought it wouldn't be as apparent amid some of the other deficiencies.

That sucks, because with a true no. 1 go to guy, this team would be a lot closer than it is.

welp, itsins time to say goodnight ta all of yuzin's. gotta go cleanup the still and get it ready for my friday mornin batch.

Hey Cuz,

You aintin still mad at me is ya?

Cause I'as a shore got me a hankerin fer summa dat shine!!!!


Couldn't agree more. I am puzzled at this regime's "wait for tomorrow" attitude. Tomorrow is not given to anyone. We only have today, and, by golly, if you can improve your team TODAY, why on earth would you wait?

Carpe diem!

why would I envy a paranoid loser on a blog?

You are so insecure that you can't speak your mind without hiding behind several names so no one can tell it's you and to support yourself you sad excuse for a human being I'm comfortable in my on skin unlike yourself!


I really don't have a clue, but I suspect it's combination of a couple of different things mostly during the off season.

1. More pressing needs elsewhere.

2. A false sense of security due to last years sucess.

3. Penny being injured. These recievers are better suited to the dink and dunk grind it out type of offense that we ran with Penny at the helm.
Now that Henne's establishing himself with those laser shots, the recievers limitations are becoming more apparent.

By the way, some douche was on here earlier complaining about Henne rocketing the ball out there to his recievers. What a joke. I've never heard anyone ever complain about how hard Marino threw the ball.

Odinseye and Big D agree with you both.
I will give you a baseball example. The Yankess missed the playoffs last year and went crazy in signing free agents to address pitching and hitting needs to compete with elite teams. Of course money is no object to them. There is no waiting on tomorrow for the Yanks. It paid off for them.


I have a sneaky position we may sign Boldin this offseason.

We also will resign Ronnie and JT for sure, barring catasthropic injury.

Wouldnt be surprised to see some players packaged together for at least an extra 2nd rd pick.

So, if we sign Boldin, who clearly stated he would like to be a Dolphin. JT, Ronnie Brown, a 1st rd pick, possibly 2 2nd rounders, all our picks after the 2nd rd. Plus any other free agents we may decide to keep, while keeping a little cap room for any "acorns falling off of the tree. We need all of the cap room we can get heading into next season.

I believe this season is more or less being played out to be more definitive about or needs next season, when our first real run at the AFC east begins.

Do you actually expect the trifecta would come out and divulge its true plans? With them you have to be able to read inbetween the lines.

odinseye there was a time that fans were complaing about Penn not having a arm to use his WR's like Ginn and other's what now that Penn isn't around? The WR's still strugle!

You are right about the dude complaining about Henne rocketing the ball. Go figure.

Maybe our WRs got too used to catching those lollipop throws by CHad P.

I am so envious of killerdolphin's room in his mom's attic in Hialeah. I am jealous of his unemployment checks and the fact that he hasn't known the company of a real lady in years.

Go Dolphins.


The Yankees already had the foundation in place to make it work.

Also, seemingly the Dolphins now have the foundation in place to make it work too.

In defense of the trifecta, if they had signed big money guys tonly to find the foundation isnt properly functioning. We could be on the way to cap strapped caos trying to both maintain what we have, redo what we we've done, plus trying to sign new draftees coming in.

The trifectas doing it just right. One step at a time. Ever here haste makes waste? If not ask the Jets.

I am jealous of killerdolphins pet goat and I am so sorry for the horrible, nasty things he does to it.

Lmao you loser!

Leave Ginn out of this


What I like about what Parcells has done is building a solid foundation, depth, and filling some crucial positions with some quality talent. It's easy to get impatient, but these guy came a long way fast.

This off season there will be no need to go crazy. A few key signings and a good draft we'll be good to go!

Jets spent all of thier loot this season and only have a 5-5 record. 1 game better than while losing to us twice.

There goes our fans win now at all cost argument. Even we beat them. TWICE!

Can you spell BROOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!

I have a sneaky position we may sign Boldin this offseason.

Dying Breed,

I would love for us to sign Boldin.
However, I do suspect that a lot of the attention given Fitzgerald helps him more than people realize.

Ginn the fainting Goat check this out looks just like him


Lest you forget Im here to remind you bud.
Boldin made his name before Fitzgeralds arrival if you'll remember. Boldin was a pro bowler as a rookie.

So it could also be said that Boldin helps Fitzgerald or they both help eachother.

Boldin would really help Ginn out at the two and Ginns speed would really help Boldin out at the #1.

Also, having them both would really force teams to stop putting 8 in the box against the run. Playing the Dolphins would become pick your poison.

Also having an accomplished yound WR like Boldin helps to upgrade the entire WR corps. Im sure he may have a trick or two he could teach some of our young guys.

Dying Breed,

I agree.

I'm not taking anuthing anything away from Boldin. He's definitely a talent in his own right. That's why I said I would love for us to sign him.
One of the things I like most about Boldin is his toughness. The guy got his face broke and was back on the field making plays in no time at all.
I got nothing but respect and admiration for that kind of toughness!


I did not mean the Phins should go crazy. My example with the Yanks was that they had to address needs in order to compete with elite teams(Red Sox,Angels). The Phins are getting there and i know it takes time. The Phins must address the WR and safety position, linebackers too. Just saying

Boldin would take lots of pressure off of Ginn too. Because Boldin would be where we'll look, when we need a game winning hero.

Dying breed you know what? I think chimmichri is also NJ. What do you think?

Dying Breed,

I USED to think about Ginn like you do. I'm not so sure after 8 more games this year.

Either way Boldin would make ANY reciever corps better.

Do you think the Cardinals will really let him get away?
I wouldn't.

The thought of Boldin on the field sounds good to me.

If Henne didn't zip the ball in, he'd be getting picked off a whole lot more. Our guys just aren't getting separation. So, yeah, to complain about the QB throwing the ball too hard is ridiculous.

Boldin is hard to gauge. I think he's talented, but he's surrounded by an exceptional group of receivers and gets to catch passes from Kurt Warner, one of the most accurate passers ever. That being said, he's definitely better than any current Dolphins receiver. Now, if Turner really comes along, then it could get interesting if Boldin comes over.


Hopefully, Clemmons will be the answer at safety. All thats needed for him his for the light to fully come on.and I believe that will occur as his playing time increases.

The guy has world class speed to go with all the physical tools neccessary. When the that light fully comes on. It will become lights out for opposing team's passing offenses.


I know what you meant Bro.

You just made me think how nice it is that we won't be in the position of needing to go crazy.

Just the same, you're right, it worked for the Yankee's.

Dying breed you know what? I think chimmichri is also NJ. What do you think? Dying dont make me ask again

I don't see Ginn/Boldin as the combo. Ginn has shown us that what he's got is not a lot. Thus, he'll never be even the #2 guy.

And I have to echo odinseye about the real chances of bringing in a guy from a team that's already competitive. I think our chances are better at getting someone from a team that's not in the hunt.

Ive always felt like Ginn would make a great complimentary #2 if he has a great #1 on the other side.

Ginn just isnt a great #1 simply because, just like they say in basketball, everybody wants the ball until its clutch time. Thats when the superstars demand it and everyone else shy's away. Well, Ginn shys away.

You cant coach clutch, either you have it or you dont. Thats why I believe Ginn could be a really good WR if you dont have to depend on him in the clutch.

Dying breed se cree que lo sabe todo.

What are you talking about Big D? Boldins scheduled to become a free agent next season and has already clearly stated he would like to be able to come home to Florida and play for the Dolphins.

That was widely known this offseason. Where were you?

DyingBreed, we'll see about Ginn, I guess. But, I'm not holding my breath. Clutch or not, he's dropped too many easy balls for me to feel even remotely confident he'll ever develop into anything but a third or fourth receiver. But, hey, miracles happen all the time.

Yo no sé nada en absoluto. Yo sólo repito como im dijo. usted debe probarlo alguna vez.

Saso dont tease dying broad, he is not worth it. Know it all.

DyingBreed, I know he's going to be a free agent, but I'm assuming Arizona is going to try to keep him in their stable. They'll have an edge, I believe, since they're a winning team.

As to where I was this summer, I was in Italy, then Georgia, then Florida, then Georgia again.

Wow the jerk pretends to know spanish. LOL
Go back to your mommys home you pathetic soul.

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