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Are the Dolphins close to Saints, Colts? No!

In the aftermath of Super Bowl XLIV, I cannot tell you how many times I've heard this phrase: The Dolphins aren't that far off from winning a Super Bowl. They played both New Orleans and Indianapolis well and should have beaten them. So they're close.

The logic apparently follows that since the Dolphins lost to Indianapolis 27-23 the second week of the season, then lost to New Orleans 46-34 on Oct. 25th, Miami is close to being pretty good because those two teams are obviously championship caliber.

And it's not just fans seeing the Dolphins through this prism.

"I think we're close," Dolphins running back Ronnie Brown said on his Ronnie Brown radio show on 560-WQAM this week. "I think we have a lot of the right pieces to the puzzle. I think we still have a few things we need to tweak and get better at. But as a team, we're pretty close.

"We played both those teams this year and, to our credit, we were in the games and had an opportunity to win both of those games. So that says, as a team, we're close. But there are a few pieces to the puzzle we've got left."

Now, you're not going to like this so if you're not in the mood for an honest dose of reality, simply stop reading now. That way you'll go on about the rest of your day thinking your team is close to being Super Bowl-caliber because it hung tough with the two Super Bowl teams.

The rest of you, read on.

The Dolphins are nowhere near close to the Saints or the Colts.

Some facts:

NFL teams are judged by what they do through an entire season, not by what they do in one game. And during the 2009 regular season, the Colts were 14-2 while the Saints were 13-3. The Dolphins were 7-9. So Indy won twice as many games as Miami while the Saints almost accomplished the feat.

Both the Saints and Colts won their respective divisions and were No. 1 seeds in the playoffs. The Dolphins finished third in the AFC East and didn't make the playoffs

The Dolphins aren't close.

Any logic that suggests one team is comparable to another based on the outcome of one game must be uniform. So anyone saying the Dolphins are close to the Saints because they almost beat the Saints, must then have to keep a straight face as they say the Washington Redskins are close to being as good as the Saints. The Redskins, after all, lost to New Orleans by a 33-30 score on Dec. 6th. And yes, the Saints played everyone in that game and did everything they could to win.

So do you think the Redskins are close to the Saints?

Taking the argument one step further, if you think the Dolphins are close to the Super Bowl champions based on playing them close in one game, you must also believe the Tampa Bay Bucs are better than the champs. Yes, Tampa Bay beat New Orleans 20-17 on Dec. 27th.

And you cannot argue the Saints gave up in that game because Drew Brees completed 32 of 37 passes for 258 yards with 1 TD. He completed 10 more passes against Tampa than he did against Miami. But the Bucs won.

So do you think Tampa Bay fans are foolish enough to believe they're close to being as good or better than New Orleans?

The Dolphins aren't close.

Finally, of course, there's the empirical argument against the Dolphins: The Saints have better players. And more of them. The Colts have better players. And more of them. That cannot be disputed by any right-thinking NFL fan or player.

Tell me ... what player on the Dolphins offense rises to the level of a Drew Brees or Peyton Manning? Let me answer -- none.

What receiver on the Dolphins could start for the Saints or Colts? Let me answer -- none.

What defender on the Dolphins makes as many game-changing plays as either Indy's Dwight Freeney or Who Dat's Darren Sharper? Let me answer -- none.

The Saints had seven Pro Bowl players in 2009. The Colts had seven Pro Bowl players in 2009. The Dolphins had three -- Yeremiah Bell, Dan Carpenter and Jake Long.

Long didn't play because of injury. Bell got on the team because Indy's Antoine Bethea was in the Super Bowl. And Carpenter played because Nate Kaeding injured himself the first day of practice.

So both Super Bowl teams have more than twice as many Pro Bowl players as Miami, even when we all know the reason the Dolphins had three was due to extenuating circumstances.

The Dolphins aren't close.

And it pains me to hear Dolfans saying they are close to the Saints and Colts because it suggests they're not being realistic. Or just don't know what they're talking about.

[I'm off the rest of the week but if anything happens, I'll update you on twitter. So follow me.] 

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Aloco

welcome. have much work to do. tournament around the corner. must go now. eat plenty and enjoy.

Mark - To defend NJ once, read his post at 4:49 --> "Dansby is a good player and can help but all i'm saying is he 's not worth big time money. if miami can get him a good price then fine but i doubt it. He wants alot of money . You guys forget eventually there's going to be a salary cap and if he doesn't work out , miami can get into salary cap hell with his wasted money."

See NJ I am not a horrible person, I just like discussing football!!

did u know the end is here
gvt. spraying toxic chemicals on us,the innocent,the lambs.

LipsinToronto - They may never go back to a capped year. That is why a lockout probably will happen. Them trying to go back to caped year would be OUT OF CONTROL...

Well I am out for now!! Time to go home and have a few cold beers on this great Friday night...

Ok Indiana let me spell it out for you like the donkey farmer you are. Dansby wants 9 million dollars.

Bye Bye Joey, u worthless piece of SH"T

man who catch fly with chop stick can accomplish anything. Aloco king fly catcher!!! ROFLMFAO

You much humor Daniel Son

WOWMark. You are pretty stupid and you are an embarrassment !! LMFAO !! Not only that but you can't read either. Go to bed little boy.

cobra kai never die

indiana why you seek acceptance?
just be yourself

wax on wax off these posters lack discipline

Long live cobra kai !!

Mark @4:20,

I gotta say NJ PHIN, I agree with Mark on this point.

What makes Dansby SO attractive to the Fins would be the lack of draft picks they have to swap to retain his veteran services. Him being 29 and just starting heading outr of his prime is both a curse and yet another bargaining chip as well. Are you still in maintain salary cap mode?? You are saying to turn down one of the best and few FA options at a dire need position in LB that can step in and play right away because of perceived money issues? Your last name Ross??

To manage a salary cap that will be non existant is rather silly imho. Fact: Veteran players want to get paid top dollar. Fact: Bargain basement hunting will not automatically save anything but cash. Fact: We will miss 100% of the shots we don't take in FA. Fact: We need more new LB talent than what the Fins will probably want to draft.

The biggest hurdle to me is if Snyder and the Redskins get involved. They spend exhorbatant amounts on FA's and would probably bid us out of the high nromal veteran salary into the unbelievable range. Dansby is no dummy, he knows Snyder is a cash cow.

Cheers,

Thank you Indiana . At least you can read unlike some buffoons on here.

Dear Mr. Gene E. Yuss

"With Porter gone, a Great Light has gone out. Darkness descends on the team. The heart & soul of the defense---nay, of the whole team - - has been shipped away.

You will regret this."

Or another view would be

Although Dark Sith Lord Joey Porter was banished from these lands a dark cloud still lingers over our fair Team.

Que evil Star Wars music

A camera fades away while focused on Channing Crowder.


Soiled :)

P.S. It is this year that Ted Teacup Ginn Finally reaches Puberty

Indiana... Question...

If Dansby would not rework his deal with the Cards and was making 9 mil... why would you think he would work a "reasonable: deal with the Miami? Parcells might make him a low-ball offer like JT, but, I just do not see him or any bright organization offering big money with so much uncertainty around the leage and I am not talking just about Dansby's ability... I am talking about CBA/No CBA/ New CBA/ Lockout...

Rob in oc . you 've up dansby arse for weeks now. who are you kidding ???

wall e
watch that movie , fat people behind monitor 24/7 .
cyber chat, texting.. like living in matrix.not real

So you're saying i'm stupid because i'd like Dansby in Miami? You really are an idiot NJ. At least i dont change my opinion of a player every 2 minutes. I've come across some dongas in my time but you take the title.

ESPN Insider is already reporting that a Dansby to NYG might be a already in the works

Rob in oc . the lack of draft picks they have to retain to swap his veteren services ?? what the hell areyou talking about . also remember GIBRIL WILSON ??

The real question is if Mando will return from his vacation to speak on Hoey Porters departure?

This shows me that Mando's job is just like anyone else's. Just when you think its a slow time of year and you can catch a nice break while nothing is going on.....BOOM! Something happens and Lumberg is calling you to come in on Saturday and Sunday.

SoiledBottom
verry funny !!!
cobra kai i hope your not evil cobra /gi joe /

I hope Dansby goes to the Giants, so, we can moveon.org.

Mark , you're a complete buffoon !! No doubt about it . Where did i change my tune on dansby ?? Perhaps if you learned how do read you would know what the F i'm talking about. Even indiana explained it to you. You're a total waste of time. Good luck and thanks for stopping by :)

"ESPN Insider is already reporting that a Dansby to NYG might be a already in the works"

If this turns out to be true would does it alter the Tuna's drafting stratetgy. (wow a football thought)

How many pages will this comments section expand before a new blog post is created?

NJ, what's up with all the...
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Rob in oc , are you saying the nfl will never have a salary cap ??? If so , you can kiss the NFL as we know it goodbye.

Rob,

I think NJ just does'nt get how the business side of an NFL team works in todays game. I think he thinks that Miami needs to sign Free Agents for next to nothing then hopefully those guys will end up in many Pro Bowls and eventually the H.O.F.! LOL.!

gotta go. been fun chatting with use guys.

Mouth , that 's my stalker misty aka home chemtroll.

mark if anybody doesn't know the business side of the nfl , it's you, Yeah just throw money around at players who are nearing 30 and didn't produce big plays is a great idea LOL. glad you're not the gm of the dolphins.

It looks like the doofins couldn't controll Porter.Doink!He should come to a real defense like the Jets.Buurrrpp!!

U were right NJ and bobby. Fins cut Porter. No trade value. No Boldin :(

No Dansby? No Future!! Get him PRONTO!!!!

Here's the great karlos dansby's number of big plays last year. You're ready Folks ?? 1 sack , 1 int and 1 forced fumble. LMFAO !! yeah lets make a smart business move at give him 6 mil a year. Those are crowder #'s. LOL

Who was the last GREAT fins free agent signing? I cant think of anyone :(

NJ @ 03:31
'He's a scheme LB who is'nt that great'

NJ @ 04:13
'He's not that great of a LB'

NJ @ 04:49
'Dansby is a good player'

Im guessing you're really embarrassed just about now.. LOL

Now go away...and stay away

NJ @ 03:31
'He's a scheme LB who is'nt that great'

NJ @ 04:13
'He's not that great of a LB'

NJ @ 04:49
'Dansby is a good player'

Im guessing you're really embarrassed just about now.. LOL

Now go away...and stay away

Mark , you are a buffoon . LMFAO !! can you embarress yourself anymore ??? . There's a difference between great and good. You don't pay someone great money for being just good. Even indiana explained it to you. Heck everybody on heregot except for you. What a jackA$$. Are you little slow. If so , then i can understand. Wow you're pretty stupid. bwahahahahahahahahahahaha ! . Is it time for your mommy to feed you ?? Now don't go away mad , just go away. PS learn to read .

Apparently 15 pages is the limit because I've twice posted my thoughts on Dansby to no avail.

Thunderbolt , yeah we were right about porter .

NJ PHIN, back at cha...wth u talkin about in your post?...

Rob in oc . you 've up dansby arse for weeks now. who are you kidding ???

Posted by: NJ PHIN FAN | February 12, 2010 at 05:17 PM

On that post, who am I kidding and about what? I have never changed my stance on Dansby. I think he would be an upgrade over any backer we have...period. We will have to pay $$ only to retain his services, not draft picks. I feel in the end we will get outbid by others in the market but that doesnt stop him from being my #1 target....especially now that Porter is gone.


What I meant to say on my post was "What makes Dansby so attractive is the lack of draft picks they(Fins) have to swap to retain his veteran services." I am no type editor and with my volume of words in posts I should be a allowed a ding or two. I essentially switched swap and retain in my sentence...my bad. Whattya say?

Here's my take on Dansby:

It's not like Dansby is the last piece to make a championship team. We have far too many holes to fill to grossly overpay for a LB who is good but not great. There are few quality FA this year. This fact alone is going to drive his price up over his value. If he was the only thing we needed to get over the top then IMO we go get him whatever the cost. That isn't the case. We are still building the core of our team and have to make shrewd business decisions. We've already had setbacks like Wilson and Wilford to contend with. Let's not exacerbate things by overpaying for one piece that we should be able to fill with this draft anyway which is loaded with linebackers.

Adios Porter. Glad to see your punk a** go.

Hallefuc*inglujah

Dansby , 1 sack , 1 int , 1 ff. for around 6 mil a year ??? No ! It's so simple even a caveman gets it. except for mark of course

Porter?

Gone?

Great. We upgraded our LB corps and it didn't cost us anything.
Looks like the 2010 season is off to a good start!!!!

Rob in oc. that's better . also that's what i've been saying about dansby . MIAMI will get outbid because they don't think he's worth big time money.

I hope Porter is on the schedule next year. Run the ball right at him with Loooouusaka and Jake Long blocking every other play.

Mark is my hero .
NJ IS A BUFFON .

Odinseye in the house! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

I'm always. excellent post !! . That's what i'm sayimg. If you have buffoons like mark running the team . miami will never get better. They want to sign just any big name that's out there without thinking.

You really are a tool NJ. One minute you're saying Dansby is'nt a good player and the next you're saying he is a good player. I dont even know why you're trying to even win this losing battle cus it's blatantly obvious you've contradicted yourself and is too scared to admit when you're wrong. The only person i've embarrassed is you.

Instead of being here,maybe you should stick to barber college cus you're acting like a total fool.

You really are a tool NJ. One minute you're saying Dansby is'nt a good player and the next you're saying he is a good player. I dont even know why you're trying to even win this losing battle cus it's blatantly obvious you've contradicted yourself and is too scared to admit when you're wrong. The only person i've embarrassed is you.

Instead of being here,maybe you should stick to barber college cus you're acting like a total fool.

Yeeeeeeees monkey is da house !!

NJ IS A BUFFON .

Mark can you tell us one story of the first time you knew you were in loves with NJ? Please do not make double post to tell us this story.

Mark , that's it. that's your comeback ??? Everybody but you knows what i'm talking about and what i said . Sorry i can't help you with your mental deficiencies . Good luck and thanks for stopping by :)

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