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Are the Dolphins close to Saints, Colts? No!

In the aftermath of Super Bowl XLIV, I cannot tell you how many times I've heard this phrase: The Dolphins aren't that far off from winning a Super Bowl. They played both New Orleans and Indianapolis well and should have beaten them. So they're close.

The logic apparently follows that since the Dolphins lost to Indianapolis 27-23 the second week of the season, then lost to New Orleans 46-34 on Oct. 25th, Miami is close to being pretty good because those two teams are obviously championship caliber.

And it's not just fans seeing the Dolphins through this prism.

"I think we're close," Dolphins running back Ronnie Brown said on his Ronnie Brown radio show on 560-WQAM this week. "I think we have a lot of the right pieces to the puzzle. I think we still have a few things we need to tweak and get better at. But as a team, we're pretty close.

"We played both those teams this year and, to our credit, we were in the games and had an opportunity to win both of those games. So that says, as a team, we're close. But there are a few pieces to the puzzle we've got left."

Now, you're not going to like this so if you're not in the mood for an honest dose of reality, simply stop reading now. That way you'll go on about the rest of your day thinking your team is close to being Super Bowl-caliber because it hung tough with the two Super Bowl teams.

The rest of you, read on.

The Dolphins are nowhere near close to the Saints or the Colts.

Some facts:

NFL teams are judged by what they do through an entire season, not by what they do in one game. And during the 2009 regular season, the Colts were 14-2 while the Saints were 13-3. The Dolphins were 7-9. So Indy won twice as many games as Miami while the Saints almost accomplished the feat.

Both the Saints and Colts won their respective divisions and were No. 1 seeds in the playoffs. The Dolphins finished third in the AFC East and didn't make the playoffs

The Dolphins aren't close.

Any logic that suggests one team is comparable to another based on the outcome of one game must be uniform. So anyone saying the Dolphins are close to the Saints because they almost beat the Saints, must then have to keep a straight face as they say the Washington Redskins are close to being as good as the Saints. The Redskins, after all, lost to New Orleans by a 33-30 score on Dec. 6th. And yes, the Saints played everyone in that game and did everything they could to win.

So do you think the Redskins are close to the Saints?

Taking the argument one step further, if you think the Dolphins are close to the Super Bowl champions based on playing them close in one game, you must also believe the Tampa Bay Bucs are better than the champs. Yes, Tampa Bay beat New Orleans 20-17 on Dec. 27th.

And you cannot argue the Saints gave up in that game because Drew Brees completed 32 of 37 passes for 258 yards with 1 TD. He completed 10 more passes against Tampa than he did against Miami. But the Bucs won.

So do you think Tampa Bay fans are foolish enough to believe they're close to being as good or better than New Orleans?

The Dolphins aren't close.

Finally, of course, there's the empirical argument against the Dolphins: The Saints have better players. And more of them. The Colts have better players. And more of them. That cannot be disputed by any right-thinking NFL fan or player.

Tell me ... what player on the Dolphins offense rises to the level of a Drew Brees or Peyton Manning? Let me answer -- none.

What receiver on the Dolphins could start for the Saints or Colts? Let me answer -- none.

What defender on the Dolphins makes as many game-changing plays as either Indy's Dwight Freeney or Who Dat's Darren Sharper? Let me answer -- none.

The Saints had seven Pro Bowl players in 2009. The Colts had seven Pro Bowl players in 2009. The Dolphins had three -- Yeremiah Bell, Dan Carpenter and Jake Long.

Long didn't play because of injury. Bell got on the team because Indy's Antoine Bethea was in the Super Bowl. And Carpenter played because Nate Kaeding injured himself the first day of practice.

So both Super Bowl teams have more than twice as many Pro Bowl players as Miami, even when we all know the reason the Dolphins had three was due to extenuating circumstances.

The Dolphins aren't close.

And it pains me to hear Dolfans saying they are close to the Saints and Colts because it suggests they're not being realistic. Or just don't know what they're talking about.

[I'm off the rest of the week but if anything happens, I'll update you on twitter. So follow me.] 


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Po, apparently the money he will be owed upon his release will put the Dolphins over their 2009 salary cap limit.

Man this blog is addicting, have to get back to work cause I wanna get home to my sweetie.

hey dont hate...
Have a great Valentines weekend!!!


Thanks B12. I was just changing my washing the sh*t out my britches.

Dear or dear , i see you still can't read. make sense ? really ?? i missed the space key between are and a . you still can't make that out ?? you need more help that i thought. by the way , don't change the subject because you got embarrassed about your lack of football knowledge and that stupid question. LOL !!

Thanks B12 & Always. I was just washing the sh*t out my britches. TYPO..


Do you guys think mark is gonna send NJ a dozen rose's for valentines day???

NJ PHIN! Mad cap! (Hehe...from what movie?)

You never answered me with an updated and corrected synopsis of your takes of my wacky takes on the draftable players the Fins would do well to target or not.

Please bust out your best updated or revised addition coming from your viewpoint of incoming players the Fins should get.

I beg you not to simply say "I have posted it before...see book of psalms chap 2 verse 4." Hehe, as with the Bible, if the post is not on this thread it is ancient news.

Thanks for the work ahead of time. Marathon it if you have to but, I am very interested in your player comments as to how they differ from my takes so radically.


Rob in oc . i forgot. i will get back to that later with you.

Well, it's been fun guys. I rarely get to actually debate some football on here. I normally only get to do drive-byes. Peace out fellas.

Cuban, let think on that, ok NO

Wait, one last thing...

Hey Po...

How fat is Rex Ryan?

I gotta say….

The whole bash NJ thing is stale as sh*t. Time for a new gig like beating your head against a wall, the outcome is the same..
Ya Like him or don’t who cares…

What does it change?

Move on with your life please!

Rex Ryan is so fat he fell in love and broke it!

And one last thing….

If you are tired of NJ Pickin on ya….

Don’t say anything too stupid and he might let it pass by em.

Why is it raining down here??

Because it is the story of my life CM.

IM ALWAYS @7:10,

I did say back end loaded...as much as we can get away with. Only front load as much as we need for his John Hancock. Let me explain...

I mean the agents as well as the players know there is much uncertainty going forward with the unsigned CBA as well as possible lockout in 2011. What will truly speak volumes is real, spendable dollars and cents (as in a partially front loaded contract) I believe his agent and he will ALSO want the long term security Vets seek in that same breath. A partially back loaded allows room for parting ways for poor performance instead of shelling out all the cash up front. Same with a 2011 lockout, all front end contract monies will be spent money never to return.

In essence I would put up ONLY the front end money needed to get his signature and if that deal fell past my 6-9million cap I would wish him good luck with his new team.

I hope that makes sense.


Thanks Po.....Could be worse, we could be shoveling snow like a certain phin fan that resides in the garden state.....

Although CM, There is usually big chunks of sh*t mixed in with the rain in my world.

OK guys the menace is off to "La Cerretta"...

You guys do brighten things up though. Thanks!

Cmon Po can't be that bad, I mean you were on the swim team in FSU and now u work in a bank!!! I mean, uh, well, uh, your healthy right???

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!!

LOL Rob. You are trying to have your cake and eat it too. You're going to front load and back load the deal? That kind of means it will be spread throughout, doesn't it? As I said in my earlier post I can agree, to a certain extent, with a front loaded deal but if you start spreading that money throughout you end up overpaying on a yearly basis and lose the whole idea behind front loading it IMO. :)

Cheers buddy.

I really do have to go this time. If you respond I'll try to get back at ya later Rob :)


The bottom line is their new salary cap "expert" screwed up BIG TIME! It's the ghost of Rick Spielman roaming the halls at Nova SE. The Fins are the Laughingstock once more....on PFT, on NFLnet, on local radio.,

They have to pay One Million to a dude they thought they were cutting, & a dude who mocked them & spit on them.

It's a major embarrassment, no matter what the apologists & Tuna-suckers say here.

po white=nj lover
pitcher or catcher?
maybe both..


NJ so strangely silent on the screw-ups who are supposed to rebuild this team!@

Thanks Mark and i nate higgers, NJ is what he is, ya don't have to love em or hate him but damn....

Get over him dudes.

All ya do is feed the fire.

emmbarrassed to be a fin fan right now---keystone kop foulups in charge

B12, Times are tough, banking sucks; I do have my health and the luv of Mark and i nate higgers.

let me guess
not thats there is anything wrong with that

To All posters,

Anyone want to do take a shot at posting what the Fins need in the 1st round including comments about the players you like or dislike? I would prefer it framed as if you were GM. Figuring out what tight lipped Parcell's & Co will do is at the very most an educated guess.

The draft is really the only flexible thing nebulous enough to debate at this point.

Porter is on the "Midnight train goin anywhere"

FA Dansby is either too expensive, non big play player not worth what he values himself at or a decent upgrade, flexible addition, Vet LB tackling machine that may be worth a run.

Other FA's maybe but Bolden and Rolle have been pretty much explored opinion wise.

Any takers?


Senor Winces, you are right, it is worrisome.

Guess all ya want BRO......

keystone kops?

Dear Mr. Joey Porter

First off I would like to apologize for some of my previous posts that my have portrayed you in a bad light.

But to my defence I thought you had been released/cut and felt like a jilted lover.

Remember our first year together ? I thought maybe this is a mistake. But then year 2 came along and you gave me all those sacks.....how could I not love you.

But then last year you started to neglect me...you took plays off, our sack life started to suffer.

So I did what any fan would do in my shoe's..I strayed.
I found a player (Cameron Wake)who gave me what I needed in the sack department.

Anywho I know you still have to be here for a bit longer till you find a place to stay.

But while you still living in my house you have to follow my rules so stop talking about me behind my back and I will do so as well.

Soiled :)

Can we talk football or not..??..Porter has been released...and Dansby is 29 and a minor upgrade....what else we got..??

Question to the forum...

What Fins players are tradeable..??

Which would fetch a decent draft pick and we could cover???

Thats what the TRIFECTA will be working out right now..

not asking you BRO
question is for the one who posted,Senor Winces,so,STFU son,.mind your own biz and keep your head up the plumber ZORBA"S @ss .

What players are tradable?

Ummm.......oh ummm......oh i know...no maybe not....ummm....nah,i give up

What players are tradable?

Ummm.......oh ummm......oh i know...no maybe not....ummm....nah,i give up

No players are tradeable for any thing worth getting.

The combine and players being released is the only news there is at the moment.

@7:59 pm:Can we talk football or not..??..Porter has been released.

Ummmm........maybe we can talk football, but not you! get yer facts straight.

marino ruled the nfl,

Not talking to you BRO.....

Unless your name was po black trash.

You mind your own biz B I T C H AND F U C K OFF

d i c k

al go.....
very clever

Danny boy:

if you are really asking (youmay be a young'un, not that I was alive then, but I'm a film buff):

Keystone Kops were serialized short films in late 20s & early 30s featuring a bunch of cops chasing crooks in a totally inept - But FUNNY & Slapstick--manner.

The phrase has come to denote a bunch of well-intentioned foulups who cannot get out of their own way, and who mess up in comical fashion.

To many little girls on this blog, NJ this and NJ that..

Grow a pair

Thats the other thing.

Stick to one name so we know who we are talkin to.

Don't be a b i t c h and hide behind a dozen names.

Be a man. I'm always Po white trash.

Mark, you seem to be okay in my book, at least ya got balls to post under your name unlike half the lil B I T C H E S on this blog.

Thanks Po :)

Anytime Mark. I like most folks on this blog and I dont take sides, If you are a Phin fan you are Okay in my book. But some people....

Right on Po, the little bit-c' spost under different names and think their funny....if u post under more then one name ur a little BIT"H...like Po said, grow a pair or move on

Yeah i know bud. I dont even know what NJ and i were arguing about anyway. Karlos Dansby was it? Arguing over a player Miami may not even sign.LOL

At the end of the day,we're all Dolphins fans and want whats best for the team so BRING ON THE DRAFT.!!!!!


If you front load all the money it will eliminate the financial incentive to play hard. Plus it will be definite money spent no coming back.

In saying I want my cake and eat too..damn skippy! I am saying that is the negotiations part of the contract. Long term security of not having to renegotiate a new contract every year at his age vs a big samarai payday for 1 year and do it all again the next? Not knowing if he will get nicked up, have as many suitors due age or lack of big plays etc. If you make the back end escalate up it makes a tool to let him go 1, 2 or 3 years in and not have as much money spent upfront. If you keep the base salary and incentives as low as possible you may be able to keep him 3-4 years if you like his play and a larger salary cap gets put in due to a CBA that tries to pay Vets more than the rooks.

I do hear exactly what you are saying. How can you have a front and back end loaded deal? I am simply saying pay him the least amount upfront to get him to play and that would cover a lockout better if they don't sign a new CBA.

Hope that helps,


Right B12.


Have you ever met anyone from New Jersey?

NJ Personifies New Jersey. He means nothing by it.

kneel and bob or bobbin on a 12 incher
did i hurt ya boyfriends feelins

alone on a friday nite how pathetic.

Your here too.

And for the 100% total AS"HOLES criticizing the Fins on this Joey deal...let's see, they cut a guy before having to pay him a million dollars bonus,they tried tp sneak it thru and not get caught...sounded brilliant to me, didn't work but worth the try to save a million dollars to a SH"THEAD like Porter...go back and listen to the radio jocks since u obviously can't think for urselves

Ima skee daddle for a while.

Cheers yall

Alone, ur mommy's bobbin on my 12 incher u big PUS"y...and I bet ur daddy likes bobbin too

No Po,i'm from England. But i'll take your word on it regarding NJ. Dont tell him i said this but the dude certainly knows his stuff. What is he,like Parcells best mate or something??

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