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Dolphins do great work in the draft's shadows

The Dolphins are awesome in how they handle the NFL draft. No, I'm not saying they always pick the right players. We all know that is not the case. But they conduct the obfuscation part of the process like a maestro conducting a symphony.

At this point no one is sure what the Dolphins will do with their first overall selection -- No. 12 in the first round.

They could go free safety with Earl Thomas or Eric Berry (if he's there). They could go OLB with Derrick Morgan (if he's there). They could go nose tackle with Dan Williams, although I doubt that because he's not a value pick there. They could even go wide receiver with Dez Bryant.

Yeah, that's right. Dez Bryant.

Despite all that we know about the Dolphins and their philosophy about wide receivers -- that they typically don't want "problem children," that receivers aren't value picks that early because they rarely contribute as rookies, that investing so much money in a wide receiver with character concerns is a big gamble -- we might end up seeing the Dolphins go with Bryant in the first round.

I don't think they will, but it is possible.

Why?

Because the Dolphins have such a dire need at the position is one reason. That is not up for debate. And because none of us really know how troubled Bryant truly is. Not really. We're not detectives. We're not conducting an investigation on the guy's life. We don't know what about Bryant is a major character flaw and what is the mistakes of youth or environment.

The Dolphins, by saying nothing, are allowing the whisper machine to churn and let it feed on itself. And the machine has seemingly knocked Bryant from a Top 5 player to where the Dolphins will pick and perhaps beyond if Miami passes.

"Dez Bryant is most likely not going to be a top-five pick and there’s a good chance he’s not going to go in the top 10, 11 spots," ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay said earlier this week. "

"Does he lose focus every once in awhile catching the ball? Yes. Does he need a little work as a route-runner? Yes," McShay said. "But that has nothing to do with where he’s going to wind up going. Dez Bryant’s character is impacting where he goes. It is the biggest detractor."

The Dolphins see and hear all these media reports -- trust me, I know they react when something uncomplimentary is written. But on this topic they are watching all sorts of media reports on Bryant's character and issues and there is not one reaction, not one nod, nor wink from the team on the topic. Nothing.

It's wonderful!

So anyone that tells you they know what the Dolphins will do is merely speculating because those same people last year said the Dolphins wouldn't pick Vontae Davis because he had issues at Illinois. How'd that turn out?

Remember two years ago when this regime was new and they sent no one to Jake Long's Pro Day? I admit, that made me believe the Dolphins would not pick Long. I was wr, I was wro, I was mistaken.

It was perhaps a ruse. It was misdirection even if it was unintended.

It was great for the Dolphins and showed how well they handle this portion of the draft game.

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Lets get this straight, Dez lies gets cought complains that he is being treated unfair when he is suspended for the rest of the yr then refuses to do anything at the combine then refuses to do anything at his proday and people on this site still wants the Phins to draft this premadana with our 1st pick #12 get real. The guy might be a great WR but with all that has happened and he will not show himself before the draft I say pass. He might be the best WR in the draft but how do we know sense he refused to show it at the combine and proday. If he would of come out and proformed at his proday and showed he wants to be a football player then pick him at #12 if he is there. Show that you want to play, What it shows me is he thinks he can just walk on the football field and be a probowler without working for it.

Let me remind you all of this...the two "reporters" that are claiming all this stuff are Jason Cole...yea right....and Mike Florio...I believe one if not both reported a story concerning Percy Harvin last year before the draft...how did that work out?

DWillaims, EThomas, or a OLB with the 1st pick.

I hope all you Dez Bryant fans have a backup player to crush on. If Tuna and Co. pick him at 12, I'll be just as shocked as the Ginn pick. Bryant has admitted to tardiness to team meetings as a freshman...he denies showing up late to practices and games, but if he was bold enough to lie to the NCAA, what makes you think he won't lie to anything that could only hurt his draft status now? Bryant isn't any NFL teams representative, so he has no business at Pacman's workout. If he was truly there to give moral support to Jones, then I only hold more doubts about his character. And his intelligence.

Dez,
Missed the finale 10 games of 2009 serving a suspension after lying to NCAA investigators about his relationship with former NFL CB Deion Sanders. No major character conserns, but questions abound about his consistency, maturity and work ethic.

For YOU ZEIK.

well said mike in houston. fishypete is an idiot.

Zeik,

Some reasons Dez gets knocked...

May not be the smartest guy.

Many reports saying he is late all the time to games, football meetings and practices.

Some say he may be lazy due to not working out at the combine and OSU's Pro Day. Some think he may have let himself go as he has not played football since early last year in college due to his suspension. He claims it is the ever popular "hammy injury" he is nursing.

He was suspended for lying to the NCAA about his involvement level with Deion Sanders. That is why he only played in the first 3 games as a Senior and was out the rest of the year.

Really rough background may not be prepared to handle the glitz, workload or money a draft pick gets.

If you want more just poke around on the net...tons of stuff out there.

Cheers,

Admitted to? One meeting.

Bryant also dismissed reports that he's shown up late for practices and games.

"I've never been late to a game or a practice. My freshman year, I've been late for a meeting. But as my career got going at Oklahoma State I [became more responsible]. I overcame a lot. Everything is positive now."


I wonder how many fans here were every late to work.

Armando,

At pick #12, I wouldn't be surprised if Miami took Dez Bryant. He will probably match the best value at that point and definitely is a must have. These character concerns about him are, I think, nothing but conjecture and have significantly increased because of the NCAA situation. However, the guy has no DUI's, no domestic battery, no PED issues, no substance abuse issues....was he late for some meetings/practices etc at Okla. St as a freshman, perhaps, but remember, what was he, 19 years old....he is a kid, if thats the worst he did, than I'd take it...people do grow up....has the guy lacked guidance in his life, sure, but most of these prospects grow up in undesirable situations and it is football that provides them with the mentorship they need.....this guy is no thug and I believe would be a steal at #12...he should be a top-5 pick......but if Denver trades Marshall, then I see them snagging Bryant....Miami, then they'll take Rolando McClain...apparently he can be placed as an outside 3-4 linebacker and if needed, move inside down the road.

Now Moral support is wrong? LOL

You make it sound like he was driving the geat away car at a bank job....PLEASE.

says the man who's already lied.

Rob....Just how smart do you have to be to catch a football? Didn't he have almost 1500 yds his last season?

fishypete?

who Dez?

Lies....How about Saban...heck even Fasano and Parcells...do they get lynched for their lies?

Rob in OC,

Know anything about FS Reshad Jones Georgia?

Aqua1 mentioned him on the last blog.

fishypete,

2009 Dez Bryant 3 games played 17 receptions, 323 yards, 4 TD's.

1500 yards?

Question,
Any chance the Phins select Ricky Sapp with the 12-Pick?

Parcells will NOT pick Dez at 12! End of story!

You guys who think it or want it just don't know what is going on and how Parcells works.


Lies....How about Saban...heck even Fasano and Parcells...do they get lynched for their lies?

Posted by: fishypete | March 20, 2010 at 03:30 PM

Out of curiosity, what did Fasano lie about?

so dez got in trouble for working out with prime. if you consider that an off the field issue then sign him up and pay the man

I don't really care that we handle this portion well. The part the dphins suck at is actually drafting players.

Dolphins4life,

I like the thought process you've got going there. And while not a BYU fan, I've followed Pitta for 2 yrs and love the talent there...I've pushed for Morgan in the past but honestly don't know about his trasition, same with JPP. I think that is where TEAM scouts and the actual coaches come into play.

I am a Huge fan of both Thomas', Demayius and Earl. This will sound crazy but it's possible that Earl Thomas is actually GONE before we pick. My reasoning, NFL is now SUPER pass happy. Earl Thomas can play immediately at nickleback and could even start at FS in his rookie year but at a min, he's the nickle in a league that runs the nickle over 65% of the time.

D. Thomas (that makes me think of Derrick!) IS the type of WR this team wants, big, fast for his size, good hands, decent routes(like most wr transitioning to NFL) and NO Diva issues..think Vincent Jackson with the DUI and a higher upside...But 12 is too high.

That brings me to my final thought...the 12 spot. On talent, Graham and E.Thomas are worthy picks but Thomas may be gone, maybe and Trifecta my not value him (FS-unfortunately) that high. As for Graham, he has the talent, except for his slow get off and lack of coverage ablity, but doesn't fit the "MOLD" that the 'Fecta preaches.
The guys that does fit the mold is Dan Williams. Although I think ALL agree that 12 is too high and that there are good NT prospects into the 3rd round.

Trading down is the dream, for me anyway. It still leave options and add another 2nd or 3rd, or both :) If we trade down, I like all kinda of players...D.Thomas, Williams, Graham, Griffin, possibly E.Thomas, Jerry Hughes, T.Mays(who I think can add weight,like 20 lbs, and move to OLB in our system) or leave him at safety if drafted later in the 1st, and there are others but I've already written too much...lol

just some thought and comments

take care

fishypete,

I don't know about the accusations/lies but I do know a few FACTS.

1. Dez lied about his relationship with Deon. If there was nothing to it, then why lie?

2. He was suspended for most of his Senior season.

3. Skipped the combine and Pro Day.

Then when the media flair up puts his integrity in question, of all courses of actions to choose from, he decides to go "kick it" wit da Pac Man.

Come on now fishy, there is a pattern of behavior developing here. No?

Odinseye,

Reshad Jones is a very good saftey prospect from Georgia.

3 year starter after his RS fresh year. Has averaged about 75 tackles last 2 years. 9 INTs last 2 years.

He is 6' 1 1/4 and 214lbs. Ran a touch slow at the combine 4.56 in the 40. He does get some crunching hits in though.

He is instinctual and is NOT shy about lighting a ballcarrier up. He may be more a SS type than FS. I like him in the 3rd round area. I would think the Fins could take him and have a VERY solid prospect for the long haul.

I prefer Morgan Burnett from GT. He was averaging about 88 tackles last 2 years and has 11 INTs the last 2 year. 6'1 3/8 209lbs and a tick faster at 4.55. I feel what you lose in collision power vs Jones you gain in a little bit more ballhawking ability which lends more to FS. Both should go same round imo.

Cheers,

Dolphins 4 life u people said he wouldn't pick vontae either. Please.

edit to my last post: it sounds confusion when I mention D.Thomas compared to V.Jackson...it's Jackson who has the DUI and NOT D.Thomas..sorry for the confusion

IMO Dez Bryant doesn't become a Dolphin, Parcells history says no, Dez's attitude doesn't sit well with Parcells and his agent is a pain in the as'....receiver 4th round

Dez Bryant is a idiot. He has made stupid decisions his whole life. Attending that moron Pac Man Jones workout is all the proof you need. No way Parcells picks a punk like him with the 12th. pick.

After last years Pat White pic, I'm tempted to think Parcells is liable to do anything. But I gotta believe BP knows HE screwed up. And that will be the reason why you won't see no head scratchers this year. That and it's year 3, the clock is ticking. Look for conservative pics and that means no Dez.

Let's see...I sat out the final nine games my final year at OSU due to suspension for lying to the NCAA. Despite this period of inactivity, I still sustained a hamstring injury causing me to bypass the combine and pro day workout. I showed up to the combine ten pounds heavier...coupled with my injury, this could lead teams to believe I have conditioning issues. I have accusations of showing up late to meetings, practices, and games from multiple sources. Teams have to solely rely on my body of work which only consists of three games this past season. Is there anything else I can do give teams doubts? I know! I'll go to Pacman's workout! He has NFL experience...not to mention a lengthy criminal record and being out of the league since '08. Who needs Eugene Parker? I can do this myself...weeee!

ok i was un aware of those issues. your right he is a trouble maker. i believe we need to solidify the D. we scored a lot of points last year with mediocre offence. we need the D to stop the other team from scoring and then we win games. defense wins championships baby!

Rob,

He's on my 3rd wish list.

The only knock I've got for Jones is that he tackles a bit high. That's all correctable, I think he's a beast.

Steve,

I wouldn't be counting McClain as an OLB prospect... the team that drafts him will play him inside, I would bank on it.

What reason would any team have of taking him to OLB? If he has a weakness or two 1 would most certainly be can't get off blocks. He would get grabbed and stuck on plays to the outside from my view.

I have gone away from outwardly bashing McClain but any team would still have to play to his strengths. Have a strong NT in front of him in a 3-4 system and keep him clean to go run after ballcarriers and get into passing lanes in coverage.

Cheers,

If we do stick with the number 12 pick, we should take either Earl Thomas or Brandon Graham if available. I think we could hold of on a nose tackle until the 2nd or even 3rd round. Bryant is a big risk for a team with so many holes in its defense. If he busts, then you've screwed yourself for at least a year, if he's just ok, then you haven't got what you need - i.e. the #1 receiver - and have basically wasted the pick. The likelihood of those probabilities is considerable. My pick would be Brandon Graham, since I strongly suspect that Earl Thomas will go in the top 10, and that Buffalo will take Dan Williams. As for Berry falling to number 12 - sorry, but you'd need to be doing crack to even imagine it.

Knowproblem

thanks and I agree with Dennis Pitta but the player that has the look of a tough big time WR is Golden Tate, I saw him take a big lick from Taylor Mays and he didn't miss a beat.
Hands are very good and good speed too.

Not at 12 but if they trade down I can see him being the second selection by the Dolphins.

We shall see...

Dan Williams, 6-2 40-times 5.23.
In My View: With a compination of GREAT STRENGTH and burst to project nicely at defensive tackle or on the nose, Williams may only have to convince scouts that his senior campaign wasn't a fluke to rank among the elite in what i believe is an historic class of interior defensive lineman. I hope he is there at number 12.

Parcells loves players from big programs. the 12th. pick will not be Earl Thomas. It will be Brandon Graham of Michigan. The best pass rushing olb. in the Draft. Mike Nolen has proof with Dumervill that in his scheme height is not as important. Also, the player B.P. picks is never the one other people are talking about.

Iniminimounts

You may have said that he wouldn't pick davis not me and a few others on here. Please...

Odin,

He is beastial for sure. I love the guys that go hard like that. I was always a S Rodney Harrison fan from watching for years with the Bolts. I wish the Fins woulda tabbed him instead of letting the Patsies get him... we ended up with Jr. Seau and he was just a little too past his prime.

We need some talent at safety and Rashad Jones would fit the bill nicely.

Cheers,

People saying Dez wont be the pick because of Parcells history have a major flaw in their argument. Yes, Parcells has never taken a WR in round 1, but he has also never taken a NT or FS in the first. The same argument could be made for Dan Williams or Earl Thomas, 2 other players that are supposed to be very high on the Dolphins' radar. I am not saying that Dez Bryant is the pick at 12, but to rule him out for that reason doesn't make since, especially if you turn around and say that we will definitely take some one like Dan Williams.

I can do this myself...weeee!

Posted by: Mike in Houston | March 20, 2010 at 03:48 PM


Too funny!!!!

Carlito

Major flaw?
Parcells does not like primadonnas, bottom line and those other players you mentioned are not primadonnas. And if Parcells had only three players to choose from between Williams, Thomas and Bryant guess who he wouldn't pick?

Major flaw, kidding me right...The Dolphins will NOT pick Bryant at 12. End of story.

I'm out!
Have a good weekend Dolphins nation until we meet again.

GoDolphins!

Dolphins4life!

Cocoajoe,

Crazy thought, do you think there is ANY way Parcells might make some go for broke type choices?

Now before you think I am mad he is in his 3rd year (as you stated) and still needs a more standout players.

I also wonder if he would feel his own biological time clock ticking away and want to see the Fin's on top more before he leaves than after?

Could this cause reach?

Was the uncharacteristic Pat White pick trying to speed up what he was seeing as a revolution that he would get credit for later in the Wildcat formation? It was being run much more by the Fins as a viable at least part time offense. If, Pat White could develop enough skill to avoid the rush while dumping the ball off 15 yards or less down field I still think he could be a Wildcat weapon... he MUST pose a throwing threat because he is just not big enough to run very often.

Probably not but I am just putting it out there.

Cheers,

Someone had mentioned the other day they'd like to see Miami trade down in the first round and get more picks. If Miami could trade way down and pick up another 2nd rounder AND then trade that low first rounder for Brandon Marshall then we'd be in business. Then we'd still have two 2nd round picks we could do some damage with.

Dolphins4life,

Please work on your reading comprehension skill...

"I am not saying that Dez Bryant is the pick at 12..."

This is from my previous post, take mote. I am merely pointing out a fact, Parcells has never taken a WR, NT, or FS in round 1. He especially likes to take NT's in late rounds like Ratliff and Ferg.

It is a major flaw in your argument if you say something like "The Dolphins will not take Bryant because Tuna has never taken a WR in round 1, Dan Williams is the pick for sure..." (Tuna has never taken a NT in round 1)

I guess this is just too much for you to wrap your head around...

peace out Dolphins4life.... d-bag

Anyone who says Demaryous Thomas might be there at 43 is an idiot. You need to catch up on your research. He was flying under the media's radar a month ago because of his injury, but now that there's a possibility he could work out, his stock is rising. That doesn't mean he was flying under the radar of NFL execs though. I've been screaming this for 2 months now. He's the real deal. I just hope Bryant is gone before him so he doesn't get the pressure that comes with being the #1 WR taken. Especially when you all and the media think he'd be there in the 2nd round. Which he won't be.

I'd love for the fins to be able to trade back 5-10 spots and still get him, which would absolutely be a better value. But, Demaryous Thomas will prove to be worth the 12th pick. Again, we need a WR. Not to mention a high flying passing attack will bring fans to the stadium.

dolfanman13,

I actually agree wholeheartedly with that as a series of events that would be the best for the Fins.

What I am VERY concerned about is how the heck and why the heck EVERY team in the league has passed on grabbing Marshall dispite his obvious on field talents? He caught 100 passes while in McDaniels doghouse?? TWICE!?!?

Whatever that "Thing" or group of "Things" is it muct be scary as this is the league that gave RB Lawrence Phillips multiple tries and he drug his GF down flights of stairs in college and still the Rams took him high in the 1st. Heck he was a Fin for a minute as Jimmy Johnson was ok with trying to clean up talented players (see RB Cecil Collins).

The fact that there is such a united front from ALL the other owners and gms that are NOT taking Marshall is a bigger fear than the fear of losing out imo. Teams are ruthless and many will cut throats to win like as with poison pills contracts. There HAS to be more than we all know behing the lack of Marshall action.


Cheers,

Hey Rob, that thought did cross my mind. But if so, why didn't he try for Boldin. Didn't want to pay Rolle. And so far, no Marshall.

I suppose anything is possible but he shot himself (and us) in the foot last year. And I think human nature says, don't do that $hit again.

coco,

Good points bro... no wholesale panic in the Rolle and Clark offers... as he let em both go.

True dat logic.

Cheers,

" i surround myself with positve and good people . Dez bryant. Ok Guys , i'm off to hang with my homeboy pac man jones. weeeeeeeeeee !!

Watch Derrick Morgans highliht video on youtube. The Dolphins NEED this guy. He is Julius Peppers part deux.

Whoooa greg,

Ez there with the Julius Peppers comparison for Derrick Morgan.

1st off Derrick Morgan is 6'3 and 266lbs ran a 4.72 at his Pro Day.

Julius Peppers had tons more production in college and was 6' 7 and 283lbs when drafted and now goes at least 290. Though having a red shirt freshman year he is still 2nd all time at UNC with 30.5 sacks. He had 53 tackles for loss(much undervalued stat imo) and 43 QB pressures. A bonafide stud that was taken 2nd overall.

The numbers are not close and his size is not close.

What makes you say you think of J. Peppers when you see Morgan play?

Noy knocking you just want to hear why.

Cheers,

Mando - Sorry Dude, but you are way off base. Sure the Fins may be playing a good draft game here but I think the more likely reason that nobody can guess is because there are no players that fit #12 value. There are better players, true, but they will be gone before 12.

As for Dez Bryant. He may be there at 12. He has the right talent for a much higher pick. Great. I don't even care if he's a cretinous moron. I don't even care that he is unproven whilst the other available, supremely talented cretin, Brandon Marshall is a proven force in the NFL.

I don't care because it doesn't matter.

The Dolphins will NEVER, EVER (get it? NEVER, EVER) pick, trade for or FA sign a true #1 receiver. Why? because the 2009 offense is very close to what the F.O. wants. Not what we want, not what Henne wants, not what you want, what THEY want. They will get a better TE (despite resigning slower-than-molasses Haynos today) for sure. They may take a WR later in the draft and he may be better than a guy or two they already have. But he won't be #1 caliber - on any other team in the NFL.

This offense is a run/short pass based offense. Tony's "chunk yardage" really means 3 to 5 yards, generally, be it run or pass. Jeff Ireland may have said "We need a #1 receiver" or words to that effect but he talks out of the side of his mouth - just ask Gibril Wilson. These guys obfuscate - and it works. Ireland says they need a #1 and Dez may drop to #12 and here you are inciting the blind, deaf and stupid to scream for Dez. So, apparently, the obfuscation worked.

The Fins will no more take Dez than they will trade for Marshall (a much better use of the #12 pick as he's a proven top 5 NFL receiver where Dez could just as easily be a bust, and both he and Bryant are trouble makers - yes, yes I know the differences) and no more than Bill Parcells will ever give a hoot what you, I or any of us say on this blog.

So, everyone, take a chill pill, accept the reality of the Dolphins' offensive philosophy and pray they can trade down with Dallas or some other team so that they can get Dan Williams or someone else at the right value.

Oh, and Eric Berry will NOT be available at #12, so PLEASE stop the wishful thinking!!

Maybe a smaller peppers but morgan still has great size out of college and great speed for his size. Btween Graham and Morgan I'd go with Morgan as a better fit for Miami D. IMO.

Trade down with Arizona , get a proven commodity in Golden Tate and then pick up Montario hardesty in the third

Now that's a debate, if we go outside linebacker with the first pick who will it be?

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