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Todd McShay: Only 2 OLBs a value at No. 12

ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay just got off a conference call and I asked him his thoughts on outside linebackers and specifically, 3-4 outside linebackers that fit the Dolphins prototype.

The good news?

McShay believes there are two such OLB candidates that would be value picks at No. 12.

The bad news?

McShay believes there are only two such OLB candidates that would be value picks at No. 12 and both were college defensive ends and are being looked at as NFL 4-3 defensive ends by several teams.

The two players are Derrick Morgan of Georgia Tech and Jason Pierre-Paul of South Florida.

"If Miami's targetting one of the top two guys I mentioned and believe they can play outside linebacker which wouldn't shock me, by the way, Derrick Morgan I do think he's a better fit as a traditional defensive end," McShay said. "But he's 6-4, 268. Jason Pierre-Paul is a little bigger -- 6-5, 263. If they're targetting one of those two, I think at No. 12 it would be a good spot for either of them. I like Morgan a little more than Pierre-Paul, but I can see either player being a pretty good value."

I asked McShay to give me his three top "pure 3-4" OLBs and he mentioned Michigan's Brandon Graham, Texas's Sergio Kindle and TCU's Jerry Hughes. But I pressed him whether it's accurate none of those three would be value at No. 12, McShay.

"Yes," he answered, "That would be accurate to say."

That doesn't mean McShay doesn't like those guys. 

"I would probably start with Brandon Graham and depending on the 3-4 you're running, his height is a little bit of a concern so factor that in. I do think Brandon Graham, if you're looking for a 3-4 outside linebacker is as good as you're going to get in this class,' McShay said. "I just don't classify Derrick Morgan or Jason Pierre-Paul as typical 3-4 outside linebackers. I think Brandon Graham you start with his motor, intensity, toughness. I go back and watch LaMarr Woodley as a senior coming out and compare him to Brandon Graham and there's not a big difference. And you see the big impact Woodley has made.

"Sergio Kindle would probably be the next guy after Graham. He was productive at Texas but not quite as productive as you would have liked to see," McShay continued. "And he's at his best when you turn him loose and let him get up the field. He has good athleticism but he needs to get stronger versus the run, I think that's going to be an issue for him and may keep him out of the top 20 picks.

"After that I'd go with Jerry Hughes of TCU," McShay said. "He's an explosive pass-rusher and can get after the quarterback."

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Bobbyd,

Ha,Ha,Ha. Little do you know I have the I-phone. 2cnd generation too!

Listen, why do you guys hate on me just because i think Dez could be one of the most talented Wr's to come out in the draft in the last 15 years?

You guy's just don't know hime like i do. We were in fifth grade together.

He actually played OLB as a kid. That is why I posted that earlier.

Po, why does Cuban mock peoples name? He mocked that draft under my name. I now understand why he a menace and big headed.

So after 30 years of not taking a WR in the first, of not taking a diva receiver, of not paying a WR big money, all of a sudden no one has an idea of what Parcells will do???When someone has followed a pattern of doing or not doing something, that's a pretty good predicator of what he will do in the future....

Bottoms up! No hangover with a Heine, at least after the first 12.

He may take Marshall with a 2nd though....and HE SHOULD..!!

Bigafly,

I badly want a big time playmaking WR. I am just not high on Marshall or Bryant. I want it bad enough that I already started looking at next years dream class of WRs. Also, Boldin is a perfect Miami guy, but the cost combined with how deep the draft is just made it not worth doing. I fear we may have the same WRs again.

Finatic,

All in good fun. You're alright in my book for what its worth(Very LIL).

Cant sweat these folks....

If ya do then your in for a rough time.

Thick skin helps.

Draft Dez, I don't think going to fifth grade with someone is a good enough reason for anyone to believe he is a good person or pick...LMAO. That's ridiculous, people tend to change from 5th grade, u want Dez because u knew him in little school, that's fine but don't try to convince me u know what he is now...just like everyone else on this blog watches one team all year and believes they know what's best, one guy said he watched every Notre Dame game and knows Tate is the best receiver out there, yet if u never watch anyone else, how do u know????

CM is Okay.

What do ya want from a Cop?

Right B12?

For NJ analyisis on Arrelious Benn please visit:

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/03/17/top-10-wr-prospects

On A. Benn. benn is not a #1 wr or a game changer. He's more of a complimentary wr who would be better of in a west coast offense. Benn is not a vertical threat. He catches the ball with his body and has inconsistent hands. He also needs to work on his route running. His size , strength. leaping ability and blocking make him perfect in the west coast.

Posted by: NJ PHIN FAN | March 17, 2010 at 11:37 PM

Get off your pedestal and hit the weights. Respect other peoples opinion because it looks like you don't have your own

LOL right PO, I went to 1st grade with Menace so I know what a great guy he is...

Bobby, the Tuna invested a 2nd on White...tell me he wont pull the trigger on Marshall if it involves a 2nd pick...He absolutly MUST do it and would be irresponsible in my view not to especially in light of Turner and White picks last year...Remember, draft picks only have a 50% success rate at best...so it is not that much of a risk...and the character issues are RIDICULOUS....join a feminist group if it worries you..to me as long as he hasnt been charged or suspended, he is ok.We already have at least 6 cases of police matters with other team members.It goes with the territory.All teams experience this.The idea is you manage it correctly.

I just dont think there are many discernable clear patterns in Tunas thinking.
But this one is so CLEAR for the Phins that it is laughable...

As NJ says...LMAO..!!

On a completely unrelated topic - how about this for cheating news:

"..some 50 Paralympians with spinal cord injuries are being assessed for "boosting" blood pressure. The pressure spike, called autonomic dysreflexia, can improve an athlete's performance by as much as 15%. Such athletes feel no pain below their injury, and have been known to break a toe, wear pressure stockings, compress their testicles by sitting on ball bearings, or block a urinary catheter to over-fill bladder.


The distress is painless but triggers a physical rise in blood pressure, said one physician-scientist."

CUBAN MENACE IS A DONKEY ,NO ONE SHOULD BE OFFENDED BY HIM .

Bigafly, he won't take Marshall NO MATTER WHAT!!! 1. Assault on a Police Officer 2. Pulled a gun on his own father 4. Was with a teammate when he was murdered 5. Beat TWO different women 6. Disruption in the locker room...it's not ONE issue it's many AND you want to put him in South Beach which would help him???? Fu"Ken ridiculous, he is one off field incident away from a Looong suspension...so keep smokin or injecting whatever ur drug of choice is because that skumbag will not be a Dolphin no way no how

lmao at the 1,2,4.. I feel like a little boy laughing at that again, but f it, I am a little boy in a grown man's body!

Quick: who are the 2 starting OLB's right now?
Wake & Taylor(who hasn't even signed)?
Who is the starting FS? Clemmons? Culver?

We're going to be starting 2 rookie OLB's and 1 rookie FS.

The FS has to come with 12 whether it is Berry/Thomas/Mays.

And don't give me any b u l l s h i t that Mays and Thomas are not a value at 12. Anyone that says that is a h0m0 and does not understand the definition of value. All 3 will be starting FS's in the NFL next season and we need one of them to start for us bad!

bobbyd,

You are not getting my point. All i am saying is Dez is not just a talented WR(probably one of the best in the game, he is talented at everything. This is where knowing him in the fifth grade comes into play.

Did you know Dez was the first one in our class to master writing in cursive? I bet Marshall still can't write cursive.

Marshall is the poor mans Dez

Price,

Mays will be a SS in the nfl. His coverage skills suck. I don't care how fast he is.

Dez would burn Mays.

Well when he runs it up the middle Karlos will be awaitin for him.

CAUGHT UP AND FIRST YEAH HENNE!!!!!!!!!

I LIKE THIS KIDS SWAGGER THAT MUCH MORE. SPEAK YOUR MIND. F--K THE WORLD.

STILL WANT MARSHALL!!!
OR
KINDLE or BRYANT DEPENDS ON WHAT HE DOES AT HIS PRO DAY.

STILL FEEL YOU GET THE TOP GUY WITH 12.
YOU DON't MOVE BACK OR DRAFT FOR NEED BUT THE BEST GUY.

I DISAGREE AGAIN.

FIRST WHEN A PLAYER's COMING TO THE PROS THEY're GOING UP AGINST MUCH BETTER PLAYERS. PLUS YOU THROW IN THEY ARE LEARNING A NEW PLAY BOOK.THEN YOU ADD A NEW POSITION.

HOW MANY TIMES DID GRAHAM GO INTO COVERAGE.

WITH NUMBER 12 WE STILL SHOULD TRADE FOR MARSHALL HE's BETTER THAN EVERYBODY IN THE DRAFT.

FOR THE NAY SAYERS.LOOK AT HIS STATS AND HIGHLIGHTS. MOST OF THE TIME HE's DOUBLED OR SAFTY HELP OVER THE TOP.

AS FOR THOSE WHO CALL HIM A WOMAN BEATER.

I DON't KNOW THE MAN AND WILL NOT JUDGE HIM.

I WILL LET YOU JUDGE.

BECAUSE YOU WERE THERE AND KNOW RIGHT?


Justin,
No one doubts Marshal's skills (or Boldin's for that matter).
We have to find 3 Defensive STARTERS in the draft.
That's why they haven't traded the picks away.

No Justin, the police reports call him a woman beater, his FATHER told the police his own son pulled a gun on him, the police officer he assaulted told u so, his dead teammate isn't talking luckily for him...when ur constantly in police reports then YES, ur character can be judged, and after soo many incidents HE IS A SKUMBAG...if u can't see it, then ur either blind or just plain stupid...Marshall is nothing but a piece of shyt, and NO alot of people DONT want him in Miami

DraftDez, like I said, u like Dez, fine BUT the fact is the Dolphins need DEFENSE, and they have limited picks to fix FS, LB, NT positions which are a much higher priority of WR...At no point do I believe Parcells is going to pick a WR with that pick, especially one that has a history of being late to practices and games

Trade down with the Cowboys (give up the 12, pick up the 27 and 59 overall).

Sign Brandon Marshall and ship that #27 pick to the Broncos.

We end up with Brandon Marshall and two 2nd round picks (43 and 59). Done.

Ever notice how it always takes BigaFly an hour to respond...LOL I wonder if he runs between classes to the school library to type in what he has to say between the bells...

I still think that Tim Tebow will be the best pick at 12.

Goodnite ladies, gentlemen, BigaFly and the idiot that always slams me after I leave...I hope you all have a goodnite, except for the idiot, I hope u have a massive stroke tonight and live a long life after that

boobyd12, don't talk to me like that mate ! I'm a light featherweight bodybuilder , super featherweight champion boxer and pro rugby player. I will wipe the floor with your face Mate ! I'm huge !. 1,2,4. I kick you butt and rip your head off Mate, 1,2 4. i'm huge i say .

If the DOLPHINS don't draft Brandon Graham, the Patsies will snatch him at 22.....not good

What the F*CK I'm in blue.....

B I T C H!


HELL YEAH!

I gotta stalker!

ARE YOU DRUNK PO ? HOW MANY BEERS ?

Yes NJ!

How do ya like me now?


I Gotta Impersonator!

All yall suck balls!

LOL!

10 To 12 AL.

The funny thing is I can drink most B I T C H E S under the table.

Try me.....

You'll go broke tryin.

The recycle guy hates me because he has to do a lot of heavy liftin…

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Go Pats...

FAS?

Thats just not right....

HI I AM PATRICK DAVENPORT. I AM A DRUNK

Break my heart....

MAMA MARIE HAS SEEN MORE BALLS THEN AN UMPIRE

I'm just shocked....

Not drunk but do hava buz...

Who ever you are look me up and I'll be happy to stomp the sh*t out of you.

You no ball MF.

I know I talk to ya with your many names but I'm not hiding like you ya B I T C H.

You got my email....

Send me a draft.

F a g o t.

PO TRASH, I FEEL FOR YOU, MY DAD WAS A DRUNK TOO WITH EXTRA CARE AND MEDICATION AND MEATBALLS U GET WELL TO PATTY DAVENPORT

TO BE OR NOT TO BE, THAT IS THE QUESTION

Fernet Branca with a splash of Campari straight up. Drink about 10 of these then freak out your girlfriend when you vomit black boozy greviousness on her pillow. She will love you for ever. The smell not so much!

Po , i would love to suck your hairy balls. I would also love to toss your salad. YUM !!

You lil b i t c h ....


Know it was you all along ya no d i c k Mother f u c k er .

Send me a E MAIL F A G O T.

Call me at 850 575 0037 b i t c h

Sittin by the phone LIL B I T C H...

N O D I C K MOTHER F U C K E R.

Paul is it?

Waiting

F A G O T.

Ya no D I C K M O T H E R F U C K E R.

Po , settle down, i just want to suck your hairy balls. I would looooove to toss your salad,

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