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A Pro Days update from around our great land

The first wave of free agency has come and gone and has left several players -- Julius Peppers, Dunta Robinson, and yes, Karlos Dansby -- awash in money.

Now the sprint turns into a marathon as teams jockey for good deals among the so-called bargain unrestricted players. We should also start to see some movement in the restricted market if there is going to be any. (Personally, with a fully stocked draft class, I don't see a lot of team giving up draft picks for restricted players.)

And having said all that, it seems like a good time to get back to the college players.

If you haven't figured it out by now, that is where the Dolphins must look to reap the most improvement from 2009 to 2010. If the Dolphins are going to rise from third place in the AFC East, the drafted players are the ones that must help them do that.

(If anything happens in free agency -- such as interest in ILB Andra Davis or OT Adam Terry -- we'll swing back to that, but work with me here.)

As Pro Days are already underway throughout our land let me catch you up on some of those with the help of aspiring scout Chris Cordero.

Sixty-one schools were scheduled to have their Pro Days by now.

The most impressive Pro Day so far, in my humble, was at Alabama where every NFL team was represented and the freakin' New York Jets came with coach Rex Ryan, GM Mike Tannenbaum, and former Dolphin and current defensive line coach Bryan Cox among others.Fat Cody 

A source tells me the Jets were there to take a close look at Terrence Cody. And he didn't disappoint, weighing in at 349 pounds, which is lower than he weighed at the Combine. Interestingly, Cody lifted only 22 bench-press reps of 225 pounds. That's amazing for you and me.

For an NFL nose tackle? Merely OK.

I nonetheless get the feeling the Jets are sizing up the Mount for a possible late first-round selection.

Rolando McClain also worked and his speed ranged from 4.69-4.74 depending on which scout's spotwatch you believed.

At the Baylor Pro Day, the report I get is that wide receiver David Gettis opened some eyes. He ran a 4.39 inthe 40 on some watches and that's pretty impressive considering the guy is 6-3 and 218 pounds.

At the Kansas Pro Day, WR Dezmon Briscoe ran a 4.51 in the 40 at 6-2 and 208. I'm told he look good, but not great in position drills, whatever that means.

Weatherspoon I'm told perhaps the most impressive Pro Day so far has been turned in by Missouri LB Sean Weatherspoon. The 6-1, 239 pounder ran a 4.53 and 4.52 in the 40 which is blistering for an LB. And then he ripped off 35 reps on the bench press. Remember Cody had 22?

Weatherspoon, considered too small for a Bill Parcells prototype 3-4, is going to make someone a very good player as he's not just a workout warrior. He makes plays. I like this player. Noisey leader, to boot.

Quarterback Zac Robinson, another overachiever I like, was among 17 players to work at the Oklahoma State Pro Day. Robinson looked impressive in drills, I'm told. Russell Okung was obviously the star while WR Dez Bryant did not work, as I reported here two days ago.

Here is what Cordero says about Bryant: "No question he is the top WR talent in the draft - I think he is better than Michael Crabtree was last year. But being the best at your position shouldn't put you above working out and displaying your wares in front of decision-makers who will ultimately decide your fate and how much you will be paid. All I can say is, he'd better have an outstanding workout (and he'd better have a workout period) at the end of the month, or he could suffer a Randy Moss-like fall into the 20's despite having Top 5 talent."

The UAB Pro Day offered an interesting look at Joe Webb, a QB that is converting to WR for the pros.

"He appeared to be a very good athlete when I saw him at the Senior Bowl, but wow," Cordero said of the workout. "He is about 6-4 and 223 pounds and ran in the 4.5 range. He did 21 reps on the bench and 
posted a 42.5 inch vert, 11'6 broad jump, 6.55 3 cone, and 3.91 shuttle run - amazing numbers any way you slice them.

"He is very raw and for whatever reason reminds me of Matt Jones. He has great physical tools but will have to learn the nuances of the receiver position. He last played the position extensively in 2007. The Dolphins should have a good idea about him after coaching him in the Senior Bowl. I give him a 5th round grade."

From the Cincinnati Pro Day, Cordero reports:

Mardy "WR Mardy Gilyard improved his 40 time from the combine to the mid 4.4s. He also apparently looked more explosive in the other drills running in the 6.7s in the 3-cone and showing a 38.5 vertical leap. He has had great production throughout his career not just as a receiver but also as a return man. I give him a solid 3rd round grade.

"Potential 3-4 rush LB convert Alex Daniels showed off amazing athleticism with a 39-inch vertical and a 10'9 broad jump at 6-2 and 269 pounds. He is a late round sleeper who I give a 7th round grade. He had 8 sacks as a senior but will need to be coached up in his technique.

"Aaron Webster, a S, has also showed very well - running a 4.48, putting up 21 reps, and turning in a 10'3 broad jump at 6'1 1/2 and 207 pounds. He has played some CB but is mostly looked at as a SS right now. He had 6 ints throughout his career. I give him a 7th round grade and should be a ready-made special team standout."Brandon graham

Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Pittsburgh and Penn State are among the schools that conduct Pro Days next week. Michigan will conduct its Pro Day today. You think I'll have a midday update on what Brandon Graham did if he participates?

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lc22smooth,

The off-season is a long way from being complete. The Jets have issues too. I still have a lot of questions about Sanchez and I'm not sold on Edwards (drops too many balls). But yes, your right....they are probably the favourites right now. The Pats ans us have some work to do. I'm confident the trifecta will have a lot of it resolved by the time the season starts.

I just read about what Zach Thomas said about Brandon Marshall. What does everyone think about that? Surprised, shocked, glad, ticked off..??

How do you guys feel about Pat White getting some snaps at NT?

In all seriousness, this is the deepest draft of NT's in a long time, the Dolphins will get one, if not two, players to compete for the position in the draft. Justin Credible, why would the Dolphins pass on their biggest need in a draft that is loaded with NT talent? These guys dont come around every year...

Dan Williams
Terrence Cody
Cam Thomas
Terrel Troupe
Linval Joseph

The Dolphins will get 1 or 2 of these guys and I will be happy with any of them, but Cam Thomas is my favorite..

Indiana,

Zack has had too many head injuries, thats what I think...

It reaffirns what I've being saying for a long time. Zach is a guy most of us would argue has a lot of credibility and integrity. He was a great teamate and hard worker. I think it says a lot that he thinks Marshall should be on this team. He recognizes what a difference maker Marshall could be. It just talks to the fact that if Marshall is out in the right environment and coached and treated properly he will perform and be a good teamate.

So go ahead guys.....rip Zach and myself for feeling Marshall would be a great asset for this team.

S tart being dominant
U nderstand the importance of superior talent
H ave the balls to get it done

Suh is a defensive end in the 3-4, one of the Dolphins deepest positions... not gonna happen

I talked to a Raiders fan today that tried to tell me that Tim Brown is the greatest receiver of all-time. I thought that was pretty funny!! He told me it's not his fault that Brown had poor QBs to play with and someone like Rice had Montana and Young. He didn't like it when I told him he was delusional and that his team has been the laughing stock of the NFL for a long time.

Just thought I would share.....

I'm out, have a good day phins fans. Jets fans, I hope you fall in dog poop on your way to work.

Good one Carlito. I thought it was interesting though and don't really have a opinion one way or the other. If Miami is going to sign him, then they will do it..?? I just don't see it happening with by giving up the 12th pick...

Marshall

It would be comical to see Mt Cody and Rex Ryan together. Too many jokes to even know where to start.

How do you guys feel about Pat White getting some snaps at NT?
Posted by: carlito from golfito | March 12, 2010 at 10:05 AM
lol. I prefer Ted "tea cup" Ginn at NT, because of his toughness.

You're right, Mando, Weatherspoon is a future stud, a la Patrick Willis.
What is with people's obsession for Cam Thomas? Thomas = Ryan Sims.
Stay away from McClain, please!! Those I know who've coached him in college say he's really smart and instinctive, but he's not as physical as his reputation suggests and gets washed out of too many plays (plus isn't a great sideline to sideline guy, which isn't all that imperative in a 3-4 anyhow).
My first-round preferences are Graham or C.J. Spiller, although I'm not sold Graham has a ceiling to be more than a really good player. 2nd round, pray that TE Rob Gronkowski's there -- he's the next Jeremy Shockey, both for better and worse. Or there will be a ton of attractive 3-4 OLBs available: Ricky Sapp in second or Eric Norwood in the third.

And I've followed the Newberry WR since his junior year of high school. He's merely a track guy. Scrawny, and his ball skills aren't very good. But he can blaze a straight line.

I just read about what Zach Thomas said about Brandon Marshall. What does everyone think about that? Surprised, shocked, glad, ticked off..??

Posted by: Indiana Dolfan | March 12, 2010 at 10:00 AM


I think that Zach was a heck of a MLB...

With the 8th overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select: Kelton Tindal, WR Newberry College!


I would'nt mind Cody in the 2nd round.What about Keith Bullock outside?any gas in the tank?and why not try Tory Holt on the cheap?he could at least help mentor the young guys.

DCOrlando - I would rather have Jason Taylor than Keith Bullock. Tory Holt wouldn't be a completly bad idea, but remember the front office does not like progress stoppers and Holt would be one to ALL of our receivers IMO!

Loved Zack Thomas but obviously one to many concussions

Lets face it, Miami has a TON of holes at alot of positions. The 2 which get addressed first are the 2 they haven't been able to land a guy at. OLB & NT,. Aside from wake, who is still a PT player, we haven't been able to find a successor to Porter or Fergusen.

How about RB? Cobbs is coming off a big injury, so is Ronnie & is a FA. Fumble Williams is in his last year. After the Tennessee game, I didn't want to see him again! Why does no one consider RB a HUGE position of need?

Haynos is probably gone, Fasano restricted. Nalbone is a project. TE especially on this team, is a HUGE need as well. Probably 2. Why didn't we give Ben Watson an offer?

We all know WR's are a need. I don't want Owens or Marshall. At least we have had some success finding possession guys: Bess, Camarillio & Hartline look OK. Turner better show something. He has the size to be the guy we need.

They wouldn't have tried to sign Rolle & Clark if they felt comfy cozy with Culver or Clemmons starting.

We have as many needs on O as we do on D. We need to trade down in rd 1 to accumulate picks. As importantly as we need TWO OLB, we still need a NT, a FS, a RB, a WR, TE, SS & CB.

We have as many needs on O as we do on D.

Posted by: Joe Schmoo | March 12, 2010 at 11:21 AM

Uh, no.

Dear Rex Ryan and Terrence Cody,

Pants on the ground,

Pants on the ground,

Your looking like fools with your pants on the ground!

I think Rex Ryan's man crush on Cody stems from the massive man boobs he saw at the combine. It's the first time Ryan has seen titties bigger than his own.


Uh, no.

Posted by: cocoajoe | March 12, 2010 at 11:30 AM

Really? I understand D is a need, but uhhhh, I just listed them for you. We really need OLB's, I get that. Not ideally, but we can survive another year with Soliai & Fergy at NT. We can survive with Clemmons or Culver at FS.

But we can't survive with our RB's. I guess you're OK with only 2 healthy returning rb's on the roster, one of whom is 33 and has a tendancy to fumble?

You're OK with only 1 signed TE, ON A POWER RUNNING TEAM, who was on the practice aquad all year?

You're OK without ANY eleite WR's that has plagued this team for 2 years?

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKK then.

Bobby12.... was speaking to my nephew last night about Miami and your statement about Zack was the same as his "verbatim" pretty Hilarius.
It is a tough deal man, you see the talent hanging there to be had.... But... The first 2 questions that come to mind are *Why is Denver so at ease with dumping what everyone else is convinced is the talent of a lifetime. * Why have there not been more takers on the deal even though there are so few options at the position?

did ZACK WON ANY THING IN HIS LOUSY PLAYING DAYS ?

Smells like tune
Rex Ryan's man crush on Cody is because he hopes to look thin next to him. It's like when girls hang around with a fat ugly chick in hopes that they will look much better.

last year I told every one to stop dreaming we would not draft a WR in the frist. Mando and NJ came after me. But I was right.

Today I tell you we will not draft at 12 Tuna will trade down. This draft looks a lot like when Tuna traded down to get WAKE.

Today I tell you we will not draft at 12 Tuna will trade down. This draft looks a lot like when Tuna traded down to get WAKE.

Posted by: Alex | March 12, 2010 at 11:56 AM

Cameron Wake? He was a FA from the CFL.

Joe Schmoo,

Your obviously a 'glass is half-full' kind of guy'. 'The sky is falling.....the sky is falling'!!....Thinks aren't nearly as bad as you make out.

Maybe cut down on the coffee a littl but, man.....

Joe Schmoo,

Your obviously a 'glass is half-full' kind of guy'. 'The sky is falling.....the sky is falling'!!....Thinks aren't nearly as bad as you make out.

Maybe cut down on the coffee a littl but, man.....

Posted by: Craig M | March 12, 2010 at 12:00 PM

I don't think things are bad at all actually. It won't be more than a year or two before Miami is in contention. I'm not sure what in your reading comprehension led you to make such comments.

All I did was relay realistic concerns about this roster. I guess that makes me a pessimist, not a realist LMAO All I hear ppl talk about is Defense when it comes down to the Phins.

Well, I know the defense let the team down last year. I know it needs to be addressed. But aside from WR, I don't see anyone concerned about our RB's or TE's. Those are as big of needs as LB'ers and NT's are to the D.

Considering we are a power running team and lost 2 RB's to injury last year. I don't think its a "sky is falling" type of thing. It's a realistic concern. I won't lose sleep over it, trust me.

Maybe you shouldn't assume or read too much into others comments. Just read & understand them :)

Alex, NJ told you the Dolphins were going to draft WR in the 1st last year? I find that hard to believe bud. He has always espoused Parcell’s distaste for drafting WR in the 1st.

Joe Schmoo: Miami offer Ronnie by a first round selection thus we can get one of the explosive RB in this draft, same thing for Fasano(2nd rd), from many years up to now always are 2-3 quality RB from the draft. But since Parcells arrived NT was a void unfilled, because of that we bring Ferguson here. IMO NT is a priority, also SOLB, but if we can grab Joe McKnight at 3rd will be very nice.

Derek, I have been asking same question for days,if he is the "premier" reciever in this league why did Baltimore sign Boldin, Cinn Antonio Bryant, and Seattle taking their time??? No other team needs a premier WR???! There is more then we know about this guy

Joe Schmo,

On offense we need 1 wide receiver who can be a number one, and we need a TE. That's really it. No, we don't need a RB this year, we have 2 probowl caliber, yes Ricky is still pro bowl caliber, he put up very good numbers last year sharing carries. Not to mention Coobs was a very good role player before injury, and Lex Hilliard looked good for a rookie. So, other than that, we really don't need anything else on offense, at least not nearly as bad as the help we need on D. Sorry guy, you're pretty much wrong on this one.

You need to go back and re-read your post. You ryhmed off all these postitions that need help. You even tried to imply that RB was a huge need. It will be NEXT year but we'll be fine this year. Williams handled things pretty much single-handedly when Brown and Cobbs went down. He's going to have more help this year. Brown will back healthy as will Cobbs and I think you might see White used a little more in a running and wide receiver capacity. We have to many other needs to make running back a priority this season.


Bottom line, we'll be fine once the season rolls around. The trifecta knows what they are doing.

We have as many needs on O as we do on D. We need to trade down in rd 1 to accumulate picks. As importantly as we need TWO OLB, we still need a NT, a FS, a RB, a WR, TE, SS & CB.

BTW, that's pretty contradictory, no? 3 is as much as 6???? According to you, we have double the needs on defense, just saying....

Joe Schmo,

On offense we need 1 wide receiver who can be a number one, and we need a TE. That's really it. No, we don't need a RB this year, we have 2 probowl caliber, yes Ricky is still pro bowl caliber, he put up very good numbers last year sharing carries. Not to mention Coobs was a very good role player before injury, and Lex Hilliard looked good for a rookie. So, other than that, we really don't need anything else on offense, at least not nearly as bad as the help we need on D. Sorry guy, you're pretty much wrong on this one.

Posted by: Ron Burgundy | March 12, 2010 at 12:19 PM

LOL thats pretty funny considering ronnie brown never finishes a full season, is a RFA & is rehabbing a major injury. Yea, sorry if I don't consider him a LOCK to be a full time producer.

Cobbs is a great role player. But again, torn ACL, in RB's usually don't become themselves until 1.5 years later. And it's not as if he was a primary ball carrier. He is a role guy.

Ricky williams always fumbles, in his last year & will be 33 I think. Sorry if I don't have ultimate faith in him giving it everything he's got knowing he is walking away at the end of the season.

Wrong is a matter of opinion. Claiming I am, for stating an opinion is assinine. I am baffled however, how people can look at our TE & RB and not be slightly concerned. Considering we are a POWER RUNNING TEAM.

RB shouldn't be discussed.

Sure, we can go ahead and pick Ronnie and Ricky's replacement for 2012 - and then field 10 people on defense because we are missing bodies! Saying we need defense does not make us an offensive juggernaut, but as someone pointed out the other day, when you have a 3 foot hole in your boat, you tend to react to the 2 inch hole and several leaks you have at the other end.

Also, under Camoron, our team was about as good as some college teams. We needed a complete overhaul. I don't know what world you live in, but you can't sign every free agent and you can't draft every player from the first round and you can't trade garbage for gold. You need to pick away at the biggest problems and work your way back.

We got a NT and a QB, We got 2 good corners with a lot of potential. We have got a very solid O-Line (with some depth/injury issues but that is mitigated by their versatility), we have got some very promising 4-3 type DEs, we have got aging but good running backs.

In order to compete and make the playoffs, we need improved play from our NT, LBs and FS. In order to be elite we ALSO need a couple of WR, a TE and a younger, healthier and very productive RB crew. (Our guys can be productive, WHEN PLAYING).

Err - tend NOT to react

Uh Joe NO we can't survive, look what happened when Fergunson went down last year...When u have our Head Coach AND DC call the NT THE MOST IMPORTANT position on defense, you know we must solve it THIS year....we have 5 running backs signed this year, we don't need another one

We have as many needs on O as we do on D. We need to trade down in rd 1 to accumulate picks. As importantly as we need TWO OLB, we still need a NT, a FS, a RB, a WR, TE, SS & CB.

BTW, that's pretty contradictory, no? 3 is as much as 6???? According to you, we have double the needs on defense, just saying....

Posted by: Ron Burgundy | March 12, 2010 at 12:21 PM

Well, if you take into account I noted we really do need 2 RB's & 2 TE's, maybe you can help me find out what the tally is now? I also stated in a later post, that as important as NT & OLB is to the D...TE & RB are EQUALLY important to our offense. Especially when you take into account they type of team we are.

You guys sure get on someone who differs in their opinion. Goodness.

Joe Schmoo,

You have a point on the RB position.

The Wildcat didn't operate the same with the backs we have after he was injured. Assuming the Wildcat is a part of the 2010 game plan, the FO might pick up a RB in the draft after the 3rd round. The RB crop is supposed to be deep this year.

Bobby12,

Good point. We butt heads once in awhile on here but NT is a gaping hole as things stand right now. I'm with you on that. RB will be fine this year. We can address out short-comings there next year. From my understandings I hear next year is going to be a good running back glass.

Joe Schmo,

I am saying you are wrong in that we have AS MANY needs on O as D. I agree that we are going to need to address the RB position in the future but for now we will be fine with RW RB PC and LH. For this year as of right now we have no answer for 2 OLB, FS, NT and IMO Crowder is worse at ILB than Fasano at TE. Not to mention, we need depth at the CB position. Even if RB is a need along with WR and TE, we still have more needs on D. That's not really disputable even if your opinion differs.

Joe,

Now your saying we need TWO RB's and TWO TE's? Great!! How do you suppose we fill those spots? And what do we do with the five backs we already have under contract? We had a good running game last year and I believe we have a good offensive line. I'm just not sure why you feel we have to go out and get all these guys when we have big holes other places.

HEY ALEX , I think you're making things up. NJ never said miami would go after WR last Year. He's always backed parcell's distaste for WR's in the 1ST round and is against drafting a wr in the 1st this year or getting brandon marshall. In fact NJ is a defense First Guy who said he wanted Vontae Davis or one of the LB's in last year's Draft. Don't make things up bud.

Uh Joe NO we can't survive, look what happened when Fergunson went down last year...When u have our Head Coach AND DC call the NT THE MOST IMPORTANT position on defense, you know we must solve it THIS year....we have 5 running backs signed this year, we don't need another one

Posted by: bobbyd12 | March 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM

Perhaps you should refer to my original post in which I said the first 2 positions we address are OLB & NT. I am not saying they aren't needs. I am ONLY saying, our need for TE's & RB's is just as important and no one seems to think so. So, with that, you're all entitled to your opinions. LOL

In other words we need 3 players on offense (RB, WR, TE). We need at least 4 on defense ( NT, 2OLB, FS) probably more. Do the math man.

And Joe,

If you don't wanted to be attacked or criticized on here then you shouldn't make ridiculous statements like that.

By the way Alex. You're getting your facts all screwed up. Miami didn't trade down to get wake . Wake was a free agent from the CFL. Stop lying and get your facts Straight.

Joe,

Now your saying we need TWO RB's and TWO TE's? Great!! How do you suppose we fill those spots? And what do we do with the five backs we already have under contract? We had a good running game last year and I believe we have a good offensive line. I'm just not sure why you feel we have to go out and get all these guys when we have big holes other places.

Posted by: Craig M | March 12, 2010 at 12:34 PM

1st, Im not saying NOW we need 2 & 2. I said it in my original post. But for you, I will repeat myself. I like how ppl try to pick me apart without reading what I have already said.

In my original post I wondered why we didn't offer Watson a contract. That addresses 1 TE need. Also in my original post, I also noted that we need to trade down to acquire picks. Now, does that help you figure out how I'd go about it?

Joe Schmo,

How in the hell do we need 2 RBs and 2 TEs for the next upcoming season ??? I am honestly not attacking you, I'm just trying to understand the reasoning.

Ron,

Joe is saying we need 2 RBs and 2 TEs. Apparently the guys we have are no good. Looks like the defensive upgrades will have to wait until next year. Sorry guys......

Well, if you take into account I noted we really do need 2 RB's & 2 TE's, maybe you can help me find out what the tally is now?

Still 6-5 Defense hahaha sorry man, I had to throw that in there...

In other words we need 3 players on offense (RB, WR, TE). We need at least 4 on defense ( NT, 2OLB, FS) probably more. Do the math man.

Posted by: Ron Burgundy | March 12, 2010 at 12:35 PM

I think you should go re read what I have said and do your math again Aristotle. 2 TE & 2 RB, NOT one. Jesus, where is your reading comprehension?

Joe 5 RB's signed, Ricky, Ronnie, Hillard, Cobb n Polite that's why no one believes we have a problem...there is only so many positions on a squad and we are maxed out...not many people are gonna agree with u

I don't think it is all that crazy that a RB gets selected at some point later in the draft. In a deep draft, especially at the RB position, we may be picking in the 4th round and a guy we had rated as an early 2nd is still there. In that scenario, I could see us picking one then.

Joe,

I'm just quoting you. YOur the one who said those things. Tell me what I'm taking out of context?

I'd rather get a RB next years draft. Ryan Williams out of VA Tech manhandled Tennesse in that bowl game this past year. I'd go after him next year.

Joe 5 RB's signed, Ricky, Ronnie, Hillard, Cobb n Polite that's why no one believes we have a problem...there is only so many positions on a squad and we are maxed out...not many people are gonna agree with u


Posted by: bobbyd12 | March 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM

I'm not looking for agreement LOL I find it funny however that ppl are Ok with the rb's and are soooo content with them. Ricky fumbles. Ronnies always hurt. Cobbs & Hilliard are complimentary players. I am not saying they can't get the job done, I'm simply saying you guys are putting too much faith in 2 injured rb's and and old one with fumbilitis. I don't see the need to bicker back n forth with me.

And to craig or Ron, whoever said it, are you REALLy that childish with thr 6-5 comment? Really? You can't see the point that its ALMOST the same number and the needs on both sides of the ball are equally as important? You guys are like out of work comedians.

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