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Tony Sparano breakfast: The quickie take

Tony Sparano has just finished an hourlong breakfast meeting with the local media.

This is the synoptic (look it up) version of the most pertinent points:

1. Sparano, who declined to name Chad Henne his starter after the 2009 ended, named Henne his starter today. Henne is the starter and Sparano confirmed an earlier Miami Herald report saying Chad Pennington is the No. 3 QB.

2. Sparano did not name the No. 2 and No. 4 QB but that is quite obvious. Tyler Thigpen starts out at No. 2 and Pat White is the No. 4.

3. Sparano said Pennington is the No. 3 because he doesn't need as many snaps as the mystery No. 2 guy. I asked the coach if Pennington's surgically repaired throwing shoulder has rehabilitated to the point he can throw a 15- to 18-yard out and he said, "Yes."

4. Sparano said there was "100 percent" attendance at the start of Miami's offseason conditioning program Monday. That included restricted free agents Anthony Fasano, Ronnie Brown and Quintin Moses. Not present at the program was guard Justin Smiley, whom the team is trying to trade.

5. On Smiley, Sparano said his injury history was part of his evaluation process but the coach said, "other things were also involved" in the decision to break ties with him.

6. Sparano shot down the ridiculous rumors that Phillip Merling will be moving to OLB. He (the player) weighed 295 pounds at the end of the 2009 season. Yeah, he's a 3-4 defensive end.

7. Sparano opened the door for the Dolphins chasing older unrestricted free agents the remainder of this offseason. In the past, the team has concentrated on UFAs that generally were in the 25-28 year old range because those were still in their prime. But desperate times call for desperate measures. So Sparano said the "philosophy is to find the best player" regardless of age. My opinion? Keep an eye on unrestricted free agent safety Darren Sharper.

8. It doesn't sound as if Jason Taylor is a big priority for coming back to the Dolphins. At this point it looks as if the team is planning to go on without Taylor in 2010. I asked Sparano if the team intended to bring the team's all-time sack leader back in 2010 and Sparano said, "I'm not going to make a comment on that ..." before going on to saying JT is a "super guy" and that he "enjoyed having him on my team."

9. Sparano said the team is obviously not hiring another coach for the outside linebackers. Last year Miami had an ILB coach and an OLB coach. Bill Sheridan will handle both ILBs and OLBs this year and defensive coordinator Mike Nolan will also be involved in the process.

10. Sparano said he'd feel comfortable if the wide receiver corps going into 2010 was the same as the 2009 wide receiver corps "because we know exactly what we're getting." OK, step off that ledge because I still expect the Dolphins to draft a wide receiver (or two). The coach has to say this because it's part of his job. And I have to share it with you because it's part of my job.

11. I asked Sparano his reaction to the string of arrests this offseason, three in all so far, and whether he might ever cut a player based on being convicted after an arrest.

"Obviously we're not happy about it," Sparano said. "Absolutely I'm not happy. Anybody that brings negative light to the team disappoints me. At the same time the team is getting all the facts on  this ..."

The coach said he would weigh a player's history when deciding that player's fate on the roster following an arrest or conviction. 

12. Sparano said newly signed Richie Incognito is "more a right guard-type of guy for us right now," suggesting he and Donald Thomas will compete for that job. The question is who starts at left guard when Justin Smiley is no longer on the team?

The obvious answer is the team can move Nate Garner to left guard where he started a game last year and played a lot. "We're going to put all of them out there and let them go and see what happens," Sparano said.

13. Incognito's reputation for suffering lapses of anger were partially the cause of him being dropped by St. Louis. Sparano addressed those lapses.

"We spent an awful lot of time together," the coach said. "This wasn't something that was just done very, very fast. We did our due diligence this way with Richie. But in spending our time together I wanted to hear why he thought some of these things happened and then I wanted to voice my opinion on where we were. And where we are right now is one of the lowest-penalized teams in the National Football League for the two years that I've been here. It is a way to win and lose in this league and not something that I'm going to tolerate. I think Richie understands that very clear. One of the things, I think, with Richie is to get a fresh start, a new start. I'm looking forward to being able to help him with that."

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Yeah I wouldn't be mad at that either, if Waterboy weren't making it up... ;)

Pat White will move to PR this season...

waterboy where did you see this? Or are you thinking out loud?

From PFT this morning:" With Dolphins fans clamoring for the team to add receivers who have mastered the ability to, you know, receive the ball, much discussion has emerged regarding whether the team should sign Terrell Owens or trade for Brandon Marshall.

At the AFC coaches' breakfast held in connection with the annual league meetings, Miami coach Tony Sparano said he wants neither guy.

Per Omar Kelly of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, Sparano said that he believes neither guy would be a good fit for the team.

As to T.O., we can understand Sparano's position. After all, he's never been arrested for DUI.

Regarding the wideout position generally, Kelly believes that Sparano seems to be content to keep the guys he has. Which probably means they'll take Dez Bryant with the No. 12 selection in round one." Mike Florio

A source Seattle , but the compensation is unknown. Seattle traded away their 3rd so I assume its a fourth.

A deal is done, hence keeping Smiley Cyrus from the OTA

Sparano on Pat Turner
" I should have put him in a game, given him more exposure"

Translation: This guy is a bust

Sparano on receivers " we feel comfortable in what we have"

Tranlation: I will use either my 1st or 2nd pick on WR

1. Derrick Morgan (if available)
2. Sean Weatherspoon
3. Taylor Mays(if available)
4. CJ Spiller(if available)
5. Eric Berry(if available)
6. Brandon Grahm
7. JPP
8. Thomas(He could be #1 since it all depends on Jacksonville's pick.) I'm not a big fan of a 5 ft 9 inch 205-208 pound FS. Other safties can out jump him and are just as good tacklers- Georgia and LSU safties to be blunt.


Carlito,

Spoon and Thomas are neck and neck, lol it depends which day you talk to me. Spoon would be a great pick, it would move Dansby outside, which I think is ok, not great. Dansby and Spoon are very similar. Earl Thomas makes OUR secondary amazing, whereas if he went to, say, TEN for example, he would be a good pick. The reason I like Thomas so much is for what it does for us. Spoon will be a beast wherever he goes.

I have a hunch the Fins will Take Taylor Mays

I hope not Waterboy. Taylor Mays can come down hill and make the tackle and deliver the big hit but is horrible in coverage. I don't want him at all.

If we go safety at 12, I really hope we take Thomas over Mays.

If they want one the top WR in the Draft they are gonna have to do it at 12. Bryant, Benn, Tate, will probably be gone by 43. They might press their luck and hope LaFell, D. Williams, or M. Gilyard will be that guy come our 2nd pick.

Normally I dont care what the Jets or Pats do with their drafts (Although, freakin' New England ALWAYS has a great draft either grabbing good players or stock piling draft pickss, as in this year with three 2nd rounders.) But with Dez Byant, it will come back to haunt you if any of those two teams grab him after you passed on him. The man had issues growing up, but who hasnt ? Once he's o the field, all that goes away. Same with Brandon Marshall, he is one of the top two receivers in the NFL. Get him paid and he WILL produce. I just dont want the Jets grabbing Bryant if we pass on him.

I HATE THE JETS !!!!
AAAAHHHH !!!!

Mike in Houston, I'd rather have Thomas over Mays as well but to be honest I don't want eitherp layer at 12. Berry if he slips that far which I think is just about impossible would be worth the selection. I want a linebacker with that selection. Graham, Kindle, Weatherspoon in no particular order.

Anyone over Taylor Mays. he's a 4-3 WLB.

I just know that the Tuna loves the big freak types. Hence Sean Softie Smith.

I hope Eric Berry falls to use at 12

Who the F**k knows anyway?

Mike Kirwan now has GT's Thomas going #10.

Hey Bobby, what do you think about Sparano's shout out to Soliai in his interview... Looks like they are looking for him to take the reigns as the starter...

One more thing...

We have made MANY mistakes in the draft the last 5 years, from Saban, to Cam Cameron, to even the Big Tuna (P. White and P. Turner). It is calculated pot luck. We've screwed up picks in the past, you pick Bryant at 12, you have a shot a monster player if he develops. Isnt that the case with any draft pick ?
IF HE DEVELOPS ??

I told you suckers Solai will be the starter and laughed me out of the building.

His talent is undeniable.

So here’s what Sparano had to say about the controversial receiver, who was suspended for most of last season, and has a murky background that features a troubling childhood.

“I just think we need good players. When I say that, we have a lot of good players on our team right now. We want to take good players. At the end of the day we have to be concerned with all the other things that are out there. He has different issues, and we have to do our due diligence that way,” Sparano said. “But we have to take good players. Whether it’s a receiver, a defensive back, an offensive lineman. We have to make sure we continue to bring good football player onto this team. Between myself, Bill (Parcells), Jeff (Ireland). We’ve really preached this offseason, and have been on a mission since the middle of the season, the beginning of our season, with this next draft class preparing that way.
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FINALLY the found out that they wont make it in this league with Choir boys hence: Incgonito and soon to be DEZ or TO

I willing to bet New England would take Bryant if he was sitting there when it's time for them pick

1.) Chad Henne is #1, Chad Pennington is best backup in the league and wouldn't hesitate to put him back in at any point

2.) Smiley trade would free up salary space for a much needed WR but we would lose a consitant leader, pro bowl caliber who just hasnt been 100% healthy

3.) Philip Merling at OLB, why even mention that dumbness? Re-sign Taylor and draft in 2nd round, thanks

4.) If you're OK waiting for next year then you can be comfortable with our WR corps. Don't draft unless it Dez Bryant. Marshall or T.O. would be most logical and optimum much needed solution, thanks

5.) Ronnie Brown is still a damn good player and great person.

Ronnie Brown aint going nowhere, although I would trade him to Denver for Marshall

Yeah Andy, I'm not sold on a safety at 12 either, but I won't be pissed with Thomas...Peter King made an interesting point in his MMQB regarding safeties taken amongst the top ten picks. Unless that sentiment spreads like wildfire as the draft closes in, I don't think Berry falls either.

Esteban, Matt Hayes wrote an interesting piece for The Sporting News, in it, stating Thomas is overrated considering GT's offensive system and adding he really only ran two routes: curl and go. Sounds like 10 would be a massive reach.

Marcus, ur kidding me right??? Not to long ago Gibril Wilson got a "shout out" too.how'd that work out??? The Fins don't start the season with ONE NT no matter what

On a side note, I am quite happy to see that some of my nicknames have stuck and have made cameos on this blog and other sites:

Waterboy's Greatest Hits

1) Nalboner
2) Clam Chowder
3) PigPen

Honorable Mention

1) Penne's 15 yard bomb

That's fine... I think they will draft a NT... Just not Dan Williams at 12.

I think he was refering to Earl Thomas S GT

I saw that Jason Worilds ran a 4.47 at his pro day for Virginia Tech. But he ran a 4.72 at the combine. I didn't see anything mentioned about weight loss or something. Such a big difference. Watching him play he looks more like a 4.7 guy - which isn't bad for a 255 lb guy.

Earl of Sandwich Thomas played for Texas

If he was, he's got the schools mixed up...Earl Thomas is out of Texas.

I say pick up TO and use our picks on defense... TO would be a short term solution for fans and team in the WR spot. Deal with WR next year when there are better options available... Atleast If we got TO as a temp fix, it wouldn't cost us any pics in the draft this year

I know but think that's what he ment

Brandon Marshall blah blah blah T.O. Blah blah blah neither one will be a Dolphin get over it

Mike..Mike Mayock was talking about for that same reason Matt Hayes said he's over rated its just tough to grade him. All the physical tools are there for him to be an elite WR though.

What are some thoughts of Dezmon Briscoe out of Kansas?

My bad he was talking about D. Thomas going in the top 10 from NFL.com. Now that's crazy! I agree with you this guy is not that good of route runner.

No Pat Kirwin has the Jags taking Demaryius Thomas at 10... This is the same guy that had the fins taking Odrick at 12 last week...

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d81714d0c&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

Thomas might be a good route runner. Couldn't tell from his time at GT though since like it was pointed out he only ran a handful of routes.

To to the Jets
Marshall to the Pats
Dez Bryant to Denver

Joey Haynos to the Fins....

We will be winners when all is said and done

Remember one thing, Parcells is the last voice in the draft, he is making a TON of money to do ONE thing, run this draft, nothing else..anybody who believes otherwise is fooling themselves...that said the draft is in 30 days that's when we will know who we are taking

Bobbyd I disagree. The team will look at TO because he doesn't cost draft picks. Can u imagine? Us having dansby and sharper and TO? Too great. We suck at drafting, and it would be the first year in a long time that is okay. What if gilyard is available in the third. Any hope in that? I know he's not a parcells guy but so what. Playmakers in third are rare and I've seen this kid play.

By the way Waterboy, Marshall isn't going to the Jets, NY Post had a great article on that the other day, keep up

Also bobbyd, if that's what parcells gets paid for then this draft will say whether I'm with him or not. Because so far the drafting has been pretty terrible. Especially for the cost.

Mike in Houston I read that Peter King article as well. It showed that the top safeties like Reed, Polamalu and Sanders missed significant time with injuries the past two seasons. Good article. I love the signing of Dansby and although we are all a little sour on Crowder he is a good not great ILB in a 3-4. I'm confident Nolan will make Cam Wake a player in year 2 for him. The only thing that is missing is a rookie to go with these guys at the other OLB spot. In order I want Graham, Kindle, Weatherspoon. I don't think Morgan or JPP are OLB in 3-4 they are better as 4-3 DE.

Graham would be a great fit he can play the run and set the edge and also get into the backfield but he will struggle in coverage. He also might not have the size Parcells likes (6'1 263).

Kindle can get after the passer and is a great athlete. He also has good size. He isn't particularly stout against the run but was playing with his hand on the ground in college.

Weatherspoon is a vocal leader and playmaker. I think he would be better suited inside rather then outside in a 3-4 scheme. He has a similar skill set and size of Jerod Mayo. But I don't think he is big enough for Parcells.

This is why I think the pick will be Kindle.

I think that the whole league os waiting till after the draft to see where try stand, but like two weeks after, Brandon Marshall, to, and sharper (among others) will all be gone.

Guys, I know I'll be in the minority on this but I'm not sold on Weatherspoon at 12. I like the guy but I still feel 12 is too high for this guy. I think Derrick Morgan will be the pick at 12. We haven't heard very much noise around this guy but he is EXACTLY the type of player Parcells likes.....

Couple of other points.....I'm one of the few guys who still thinks White will have some value to this team. You guys go ahead and write him off but don't jump back on the bandwagon when he starts playing well. I'm so-so on Smiley for a fourth. I don't see Gardner or anyone else being an upgrade to Smiley. Having an extra pick is good but I don't see the line being any better. And I'm VERY disappointed having Sparano say they are relatively happy with our WR's......sorry they aren't good enough....and they aren't going to help Henne enough. It's going to be the same crap we're spouting on here next year....no true #1 etc.....

Andy I agree with Graham, especially since this team needs help with the run from their lbs. Remember when it was third and 2 with zach and jt and u knew they were running and u knew they weren't going to get it?

Craig M I'm with you on Weatherspoon. I like him but not at 12. If Miami doesn't go Graham or Kindle I would rather them draft Dan Williams then Weatherspoon if they stay put at 12.

Inimounts:

Jake Long
Chad Henne
Phillip Merling
Kendal Langford
Donald Thomas
Lex Hilliard
Vontae Davis
Sean Smith
Brian Hartline
Chris Clemons

Dolphins F.O. sucks at drafting? You suck at thinking.

Craig I agree about our receivers, we have the worst core in the league and won't do a thing about it....but pat white will only be of use in wildcat or as a receiver. Only player in history to play basically ever game at qb and not complete a pass . Let's not waste years trying to make him something he's not as with ginn.

Inismounts, the Dolphins have ZERO interest Marshall, they are not going to bring in the Queen Diva of all time and have him take up a roster spot from one of our WRs or draftees, what sense does it make to bring in a T.O. to take up a spot on a team that is developing young players, not gonna happen

dqbmx1212,
You're on the right track, TO at WR and all Defense in the draft might be the best approach with the way we're a "cost effective" team.

"TO to the Jets
Marshall to the Pats
Dez Bryant to Denver

Joey Haynos to the Fins....

We will be winners when all is said and done

Posted by: Waterboy | March 23, 2010 at 11:19 AM"

Hahahahaha funny comment waterboy! Its sad how some of these "fans" don't think its a big deal if that were to happen... idiots


any truth bout smiley for 4th or just blog rumor? I couldn't find anything on it

Supposedly, according to John Clayton the asking price for Brandon Marshall is a #2 and #4 draft pick. I have been a Fins fan since 1985, when I was 6 and it makes me sick that there hasn't been a stud wide receiver on the roster (I am not including Wes Welker) since Duper and Clayton. As much as I respect and trust Parcells, the current staff infuriates me with their lack of desire to get a playmaker.
Essentially, if we could go back a year in time, the Dolphins would be trading Pat White and Brian Hartline. Anyone with a brain would take that trade in a second.
If we had a stud #1 WR, our team would be so much better. It is just frustrating knowing that we are not even in the running for Marshall. I don't care about his attitude or his ability to put his hand through a TV. Just pull the trigger, give him his money and watch Henne flourish.

ANDY

The thing is if you want to project a relistic pic at 12--u have to consider upside talent, and Parcells/nolan history at the outside linebacker posititon------Dermarcus Ware, Anthony spencer, and Manny lawson-----they all compare to JPP and morgan--say what you want kindle and grham have never sttod up and rusehed the QB---Morgan and JPP have done that more in college----at the end of the day they are all projects at 3-4olb b/c they all played 4-3 end in college---

however graham and kindle---dont fit the size and length prototype of parcells----go and bash the prottype all you want---parcells is a proven winner and he builds his defense with size on the outside---kindle and graham are better fits for a steelers 3-4 where size isnt a big issue.

JPP is a risk, but i personally think he is going to be a player, b/c a kid he shows all those skills and has only played football for 4 years---u think "raw" and spin that in a negative sense---i say quick learner with great upside and demarcus ware comparable features--------postitive---every1 has thier own Spin

Then what bobby? Seriously, it's like u think it has to be parcells way or no way. If that's true we wouldn't have gotten jt back or porter for that matter. And now they say they are going away from youth even more. Why? Because pat white is a bust, so is Patrick turner (most likely), and with your scenario, at best we end up with dez Bryant who is green and a bunch of 500 yard guys, and most likely it's the same below average receivers with hoping a third round wr will be ready. Ridiculous. Am I saying we are going to get Marshall or to? Prolly not. But to say u know what parcells will do or me or anyone is crazy. He is changing.

Inimounts, yes they do need someone who has the ability to set the edge at OLB. Matt Roth was very good at that. Last year they didn't have anyone who could do it. The two slight negatives on him are his ability to drop in coverage but I think he would be fine playing the flats just not good in man. I'm not sure but I think Parcells might not like his size either because he is stout not tall.

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