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Which Dolphins WR suffered from drops in 2009?

In speaking of his receivers last week coach Tony Sparano said he was "happy with group of players we have right now, been very productive over the last couple of years, and are continuing to get better."

And that's fine because a coach is supposed to show his players love, sometimes. But a coach is also supposed to know the truth and the truth is the receiver in which the Dolphins have made their biggest financial and emotional investment is not getting better.

Last year when everyone was expecting him to take a major step forward he took a significant step backwards.

That's not opinion.

Ted Ginn regressed in 2009 and the tangible measure of that is available at ProFootballFocus.com as Sam Monson's crew have broken down league-wide drop percentages for pass catchers.

The good news? Greg Camarillo, despite whatever shortcomings he has in his game, is nothing if not dependable. He didn't drop a pass in 2009 in tying for the NFL lead in drop percentage at zero. You cannot get better than zero drop percentage.

Camarillo had 50 catches on the season without a flub.

The bad news? Ginn.

Forget all you know about Ginn's draft pedigree and how in three years he hasn't really lived up to it. He's not dependable no matter if you think of him as a draft bust or a guy who came in as a street free agent. That's because Ginn had a 2009 drop percentage of 20.83, which was the third worst in the NFL behind only Kansas City's Mark Bradley (25.00 drop percentage) and Green Bay's James Jones (21.95 drop percentage).

Pro Football Focus defines a drop as when a receiver gets his hands on a ball, but drops a pass you would reasonably expect to be caught.

According to the tape study by PFF, Ginn dropped 10 passes while catching 38 passes last season. That means the guy dropped one of every five passes thrown to him.

And that followed a 2008 season in which Ginn dropped eight six passes while catching 56.

Fewer catches, more drops in 2009. That is not progress.

I will attempt to get you the statistics on Davone Bess and Brian Hartline today.

[Update: Bess dropped seven of 83 catchable passes. He had a drop percentage of 8.434 to go along with his team-leading 76 catches. Not terrible. Not great. Hartline dropped three of 34 catchables passes. His drop percentage was 8.824 to go along with his 31 catches. Interestinly one of the receivers that fell between Bess and Harltine's drop percentage was Randy Moss. He dropped eight of 91 catchable passes for an 8.791 drop percentage. Of course, Moss kind of makes up for those drops by, you know, catching 83 passes for 1,264 yards and 13 TDs. Perspective.]

Meanwhile, tight end Anthony Fasano was more dependable than probably some of you realized.

His drop percentage of 8.823 was about middle of the pack among tight ends. He dropped three of 34 catchable passes according to PFF. The most dependable tight end in the NFL last season?

Jeff King of the Carolina Panthers didn't drop any of the 25 catchable passes thrown his way. Former Dolphins tight end Randy McMichael (seven drops and a tight end-high 17.07 drop percentage) and Donald Lee (six drops and a 13.95 drop percentage) obviously struggled in 2009.

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first...awesome.

First awesome

First...awesome

Ginn doesnt suck because he drops balls. He sucks because he cant get open, doesnt adjust routes vs. the blitz, shies away from contact, doesnt get yards after the catch, doesnt block for his teammates AND he drops balls. He's not good at anything that you want a WR to be good at. Might make a decent point guard or centerfielder though.

man opening day kick off cant get here soon enough

GMJohnson, you forgot "jumps out of bounds at every opportunity!"

Let him return kicks for a living. That is what he specializes in. Make that his main focus and he'll excell. I blame our management for not utilizing their players correctly. If they have such a hard on for using him as a WR. Put him in the slot so he doesn't have to deal with the jam / bump at the line and can get seperation easier. Have him run mid to intermediate underneath slant routes. Pat White is not a QB who can take the direct snap from under center. Utilize him in the spread offense. Patrick Turner is a jump ball type player / fade rout. Same as Orande Gadsden.

EIGHTH AWESOME

Trade Ginn

The bad part of Ginn's drops is that they were all so crucial. Ginn's drop cost the Dolphins two wins outright. I bet 75% of Ginn's drops came in the 4th quarter.

You forget to throw in the amount of passes thrown to Fasano compared to the other TEs. After Fasano's two for two on catches and fumbles in the 1st two games he did not get the ball thrown to him very much.

Parcells drafts in pairs traditionally so that he ensures he fills a need definitley.

He will draft TWO linebackers followed by TWO safeties...

Its gonna be 4 Defense picks to start with.
Now, we have 10 draft picks and he will draft BPA at that point.One pick will be a WR and another will be a RB.
Therefore forget a Golden Tate, Demayrious Thomas or A Benn...wont happen.He will finf a late round WR and a late round RB....
Pick 5 to 10 will also include a NT a TE and possibly even another Centre....

Lets see if im right...but im on record...

2 x Linebackers then 2 x safeties.

The Phins just have Ginn in the roster because He was expensive and they're trying to give him a shot! That's the only reason! They NEED to let Pat Turner play! The dude has size and that alone is a disadvantage to the opposition! I love Bess, but if it was between Bess and Camarillo... I'd take Camarillo! He's very underrated! I say trade Ginn, Bess, and Pat White, and Smiley!

Ginn should also be known as 'Dr. No' (Metal hands)...and Fasano regressed as well - to the point that it looked like Papa Tony (Sparano) lost confidence in him...

Run Ginn deep constantly to occupy a corner and safety. Speed guys don't have to catch a lot of footballs - they can make other guys catch more footballs underneath. Let him return kicks as well - the Jets game was one I will never forget when he returned 2.
Camarillo will also be healthy this year, Bess is tough, Hartline good and hopefully Turner will start to show signs of life in 2nd year.
Draft DEFENSE!!!

This is news? I remember watching him in his first game, returning a kickoff. I couldn't believe what I saw. I seen a kid down shift gears in the open field, visibly slowing on one of his first returns, because the walls were closing in. The legs definitely got weak and he was ready to go down at least 10 yards before he had to.
Last year, anything thrown over his head he dropped. (he can jump) The one pass I remember him catching dropped into his hands and he still almost dropped it.
Ted Ginn reads this column. Every day. Instead of taking what we see and building off of it, it is getting in his head. This kid needs to get away from his Daddy and get tough.
I wish we would have taken a linebacker, a nose tackle or a safety, on those first 2 picks. Beck sucked worse. Was that a draft of girly boys or what?

Yeah Anthony was more reliable than I think, catching most of his passes and fumbling right after. Real dependability. Not trying to hate on the guy, but you are trying to feed me some bull here. Fasano needs to have a way better year this year or he will be gone for the great "Haynos".

BALLSINYOURMOUTH, I definitely would agreed 99% with your POST. But come on Phins fans, we blame it all on Ginn? True, he is coming into a make or break year, but as much as our offense moved the ball and as horrible as our TE's are getting open? When have we had a decent TE since Jackson? I think we should go TE as our 2nd pick, nomatter what. We need to have a threat in the middle of the field! This frees up our WRs. But OFFENSE IS NOT THE PROBLEM!!!! Earl Thomas ran a 4.35 at his Pro Day before tweaking his hamstring. If that doesn't solidify him, what will. So I see Jacksonville or Denver picking or Derrick Morgan with the first pick- and we will get the one they don't pick. I would rather get Brandon Graham, but no way he goes that high. If Morgan and Thomas are gone, we should either trade down, or take Jerry Hughs/Weatherspoon. If we have no choice but to pick I say we go with B. Graham or T. Mays(again- only if Thomas and Berry are off the board).

Well as long as Sparano states how happy he is with the current receivers the longer we will hover around the 7-9, 8-8 record. Yeah, I know we need OLB's, safties, and a nose tackle but at some point they will need to address wide receiver and running back if they want to make it to the playoffs. Ronnie Brown can't seem to make it through an entire year without injuries and Rickie Williams is getting old. Trade Brown while you can still get something for him. They not only will not sweep the jets this year but they won't sweep any of the AFC East teams. They need an offensive coordinator also!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way Armando, keep feeding us Greg Camarillo cant get any better with zero drops when I'm lookin a Reggie Wayne with 100 catches and 3 drops!!!!!!!Thats the type of production you need from a receiver......Seriously, come on, our receivers are pedestrian at best. We shall see when things change with this franchise.

"The NFL is becoming a pass happy league"

says:
ESPN
NFL NETWORK
ABC
FOX
MIAMI HERALD
SUN SENTINEL
PALM POST
AND ALL THE .COMS YOU CAN THINK OF!!!!!!!

i still cant believe wr still get paid even though they cant catch. i mean when a rookie has the most recieving td (3) all season that shows there is a problem with the passing game. but then again when you run the wild cat (prodominatly running the ball) i guess you dont need a passing game. of course you will only go 7-9 with this style of football. but still our defensive secondary was the real issue. by the way if this earl thomas is so good why is he short and tweek hamstrings not the kind of player we need in the backfield. i keep saying mayes should be the phins pick at 12 closing speed is just too great to pass up.

BUT THE FASANO DROPS WERE.............FATAL RESULING IN GAME LOSSES MORE THAN GINN .

Ginn is a bust period. The sooner he is gone the better imo.

THAT's WHY WE NEED MARSHALL.

I'll EVEN SETTLE FOR DEZ.

IF I'm NOT WRONG CRABTREE MISSED HALF THE YEAR AND DID BETTER THAN OUR WIDEOUTS.

AND HE CLOCKED IN THE 4.55 AREA LAST YEAR.

GETTIN 2nd RATED WRs WILL HELP BUT WE HAVE A ROYAL MESS.

THE SAD THING IS WITH HOW BAD OUR WR CORE IS TURNER COULDN't SEE THE FIELD.

I DIDN't LIKE THE GINN PICK UP BUT AFTER HE WAS ON THE TEAM I RODE WITH HIM. EVEN LAST YEAR I THOUGHT HE WOULD PICK IT UP THIS YEAR.

WRs NEED 3 YEARS TO CATCH ON. I BUT THAT's FIGUERING HE PLAYED AND STARTED 4 YEARS IN SCHOOL.

GINN STARTED 2 YEARS AND WAS USED AS A SPECIAL TEAMS GUY BEFORE THAT.

HE's STILL DEVELOPING.

HE LOOKS OK AT TIMES SUCK MOST THE TIME's AND GREAT EVERY OTHER FULL MOON. BUT FOR SOME REASON I THINK THE SWITCH IS GOING TO COME ON.

REALLY I FEEL WE SHOULD LET ALL OF THEM GO AND START OVER IN THIS YEARS DRAFT.

BRYANT
THOMAS or BENN
LAFELL
MITCHEL
WILLIAMS
NT
FS

OR TRADE THE STUPID #1 FOR MARSHALL
2 DEZ BRAYANT BEING THAT HE's SLIPPING

DON't CARE ABOUT THE REST SEE YOU IN THE PLAYOFFS.

THEY SAY D WINS GAMES.

LAST TIME I SAW FOOTBALL IT WAS WHO HAD THE MOST POINTS THAT WON GAMES.

Question for everyone.....Do you think There might have been more drops this year due to the fact that Henne was bascially a Rookie QB and doesnt have the touch down as well as Penne??????????????????????

Not making excuses for Ginn...Hes terrible for all the reasons mentioned above...

Tricky, you can also go 11-5 with the wildcat.

MAYBE WE SHOULD THROW TO GREG CAMARILLO IN THE FIRST HALF INSTEAD IN FOURTH WHEN THE GAME IS ON THE LINE,if YOU A RECEIVER WHO HAS GREAT HANDS AND CAN RUN THE PATTERN CORRECTLY AND ALSO RUNS THE PLAY EVEN IF ITS NOT TO HIM.

this says alot about a guy who keeps his mouth shut and catches every ball thrown his way; GREG CAMARILLO! he goes under the radar but is so valuable to the team effort. he makes all the catches and receives none of the credit. he is the one that caught the TD pass that kept us from being 0-16 a few years ago. he is our best receiver!

Ginn has got to go. He had his chances and has not proven to be a leading WR. In syaing that, we should cut our losses, just like we do in real life, and move on. We need to use that money and find a real WR. I am not at all down on Bess and Camarillo, there're the only ones that kept us in games really. They come to play.

GINN SU@k#!!!!! No NEED TO SAY ANYMORE, HE OPENLY AND CONSISTANTLY CANT CATCH! PLEASE, PLEASSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE... GET RID OF THIS POS WHO LOST GAMES FOR US.

GINN GONE WILL MAKE ALL OF US BREATH A SIGH OF RELIEF. WE WONT HAVE TO WATCH A MUST CATCH AND WATCH GINN MESS UP A ROUTE AND DROP THE GAME WINNING CATCH. WE CANNOT GO THROUGH THAT PAIN AND SUFFERING AGAIN IN 2010.

Any way you look at it, we need Defense. You can make all the excuses in the world to address the WR- including Ginn's shortcomings, but the bottom line is that every championship team has a good to great D. Saints may have been a bit of an exception, but the general theme of all the Superbowl winners in history is that they have great or good defenses. I actually think if Freeny had been 100% healthy, he would have taken over the game and the Colts would have won. In this league, you HAVE to be able to get QB pressure and have a guy that can dominate the OFFENSE- whether it's a star LB, Safety, or DE/DT. In New Orlean's case I would say Vilma and Sharper are that damn good. JT in his prime was that good, but we suffered so much from our Offensive line woes. The best Patriots team that lost to the Giants had at least 5 to 6 good/great WRs and it didn't matter because of New York's pass rush. Now if Wake comes around and we get 1 or 2 of these "10 sack" guys, we can improve drastically. I can't believe Wembly was traded to the raiders, why didn't we offer more for Wembly I wonder? But nevertheless- we could get 5 WRs in the draft- "ala" Patrick Turner- what good is it going to do? Dez Bryant can't even remember to bring his sneakers to the workout. And not to mention all you supposed Phin fans can holler for Owens/Marshall all you want, Sparano all ready addressed that silly rumor.

Ginn did not cost the Dolphins any games. Any fan who believes this is delusional and uneducated/unrealistic about NFL players and football in general. Miami's defense (or lack of 4'th qtr defense) was reason 1A, 1B, and 1C why they finished 7-9. Parcells and Co know this....exhibit A to prove this was the firing of the DC and hiring of Mike Nolan. And notice Ginn is still on the roster because Miami is a better team with him there. Name the WR with the speed to take top off the defense? Ginn. Name a return man on the roster better than Ginn...can't do it can you? He has value...he was picked ninth, too high by a previous regime but get over it and quit whining about it. Still rather have Brady Quinn you crybabies? Ginn had no control over that people. I'm a 25 yr Dolfan who believes that player bashing is ridiculous, especially coming from couch pototoes. And Armando has it in for Ginn...I think he refused too many inverviews for Armando's liking.

IS THIS THE YEAR OF THE THOMAS?

1st round .... EARL THOMAS, FS
2nd round .... D.THOMAS, WR
3rd round .... CAM THOMAS, NT

I would be happy with those 3 picks ....

WAS SUP FOOLS! WHERE YO BE NJ NAH!
NJ SAY HE SMART......I HEARD YOU DONT GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE.....FOOL..... BUSIMESSMAN MY @SS
GET A LIFE KICK ROCKS

DOLPHINS IN SUPERBOWL IN 2011!

FOOLISH MIKE.......SAD

just incredible??????? was any of that necessary at all. really????? what did NJ tell you to cyber shut up to many times. Dont come in here with all that crap talk football or go to the SS and blog.

Mike jones i agree...

Ted Ginn should be limited to punt and kick return duties and 4-5 WR sets.

Given the Dolphins run first, run second, pass third mentality a WR group of:
Hartline as # 1, Camarillo # 2 and Bess in the slot is sufficient.

Dont kid yourselves FinFans.I will say it once again

"Tuna takes a dump on FinFans as he fails to upgrade WR position".

Get Ready for some more 2 yard behind the line of scrimmage passes to Bess.

Ginn is an mediocre WR who's value is on Special Teams.

Tedd Ginn should just work on getting better. Its obvious he's not putting in the work to become the best he can be.

waterboy you are right the WR position needs an upgrade... but what are our options that you see????

The more I watch tape, I like Golden Tate. He can take snaps at Slot or Spilt End and also Wildcat. Send Cobbs packing to move up in the second rd and snatch him.

Id also like to bring in a vet at Training camp.

Who is Yeremiah Bells Backup??? I hope we draft a SS with one of 6th rd picks

I am not a fan of Tate's size. I want a big WR.

If you think Ginn did not cost the Dolphins any game you are delusional.

dropped passes stall drives which stalls scoring. whoever scores the most wins the game.

Ginn cannot return kicks cause he runs out of bounds. he cannot run slants cause he is afraid to be hit.

Not First...Awesome!

It clearly states in the article that Ginn had SIX drops in 2008 - not 8. That would give him a drop percentage of 12.5%.

If you are going to link to the article you should get your facts straight. You are a professional journalist.

But WestVa, you have a big WR on the roster, Pat Turner...
problem is he cant get off the line of scrimmage. He is big building.

Roman,

Ginn's most horrid drops of the year came vs Indy, with Pennington throwing.

Mike Jones,

Ginn did cost us the Indy came. (or shared the honor with Wilson)

Roman, I don't believe it was more Henne's fault that Ginn can't catch a ball. Really, it's not even the catches that I don't like about Ginn. I don't like his heart (he doesn't have one in the football sense). I don't like his effort (running out of bounds or slowing on a kickoff). I don't like his route-running abilities. I don't like his focus. Otherwise, he's great!! If Henne was the problem, then it would have affected Camarillo, Bess, Hartline, Fasano, Ronnie and Ricky, etc., and obviously they caught the passes just fine.
Mike Jones and WVa, while I agree the Defense struggled more than Ted Ginn (and they were the major reason we were 7-9), it's incredible that there are ANY Dolphins fans who are still sticking up for Ted Ginn. On HEART alone. Besides 2 kick returns for TD's (and a couple of passing TD's), what's this kid shown for the past 3 years? He's a waste of a roster spot. Give me a real WR, doesn't need Ginn's blazing speed, but a TRUE WR, and he'll probably outshine Ginn in one year. It's not Ted's fault, he's not a WR. He's a kick returner, that's all. He's a converted track guy. Look at a similar player in stature, DeSean Jackson, now THAT'S a WR. He has the skills to match the talent and he's showing why he's dangerous anytime he touches the ball. Ginn is NOT dangerous everytime he touches the ball. He gets lucky sometimes and makes a play, otherwise, he's running for the sidelines. Ever seen Jackson do that? Give me Davone Bess, he has none of Ginn's talent but outshines him any day of the week, because he's a TRUE WR. I understand you guys not wanting to beat the guy up since everyone else does, but please don't defend that loser, he's not worth your words.

Yeah i dont even count turner with our WR group right now because he hasnt played yet. But i think there are guys that bring the same stuff to the table as Tate that have better size than him

I like Tate. I just am on the fence on whether I think he can be a #1 WR in the NFL or if he'll be a real solid #2. Part of me thinks he'll be a #1 in the sense that Derrick Mason is a #1 and Hines Ward is a #1. Not a dominant guy just a guy who consistently puts up numbers and makes plays when needed. Other part of thinks - Josh Reed.

CORRECTION - His 2008 drop percentage would be 9.67%. Which is exactly average.

And I'm guessing Bess' will come in around 7.3% for this year, if not worse.

So yes, Ginn sucked - but with Ginn, Bess and Fasano having trouble catching the ball this year - don't you think the QB change could have played into it?

I think that with Henne throwing the majority of the preseason balls, Ginn should get better.

Now that we have declared Camarillo as no drops, wait for a dropped plagued 2010. Its the curse of the blog !

Narm, Pennington definitely throws a more catchable ball than Henne and is better at leading a guy away from traffic. So that would help the WRs out. Agree with the QB factor of it.

Camarillo is automatic. I have a feeling bess might be the odd man out this year. I know Ginn dropped some passes but his speed won us 2 games last year. His speed is something you can't beat

I dont see the fins drafting a WR before Rd 6

The defense sucks too much.

Hey Mando, enough WR talk man. This is sickening. Can we talk about the real needs on this team for a change? Can we talk about NT, FS and both OLB positions? Because frankly, if we're starting Culver, Soliai, Anderson and Wake next season, then it won't matter who we have at receiver when we're giving up 31 points a game. Please, lets cover the real issues on this team.

WVa, you are right though that's there's no good solution this year to this problem. There aren't any FA WR's (that wouldn't cost an arm and a leg like Marshall or Miles Austin). I might make a play for one of those guys, but the Trifecta won't, and I respect their experience over mine. I might pick up T.O. for a year (crazy as that may sound), doubt he can cause much trouble with this staff in that time, and that would allow us to draft a later-round WR and try to develop him and P Turner to hopefully take over the following year. TJ (from Seattle) would be nice, but while he said he's not happy there, don't think they'd trade him (even though Ginn for TJ would a great trade in my opinion). So, the best bet (and what I think will happen) is the Dolphins will draft a WR in round 2 or 3, see what he's got, try to mold him into the #1, or at least #2 and see if Hartline steps up this year and see what's out there next year.

GOOD POINT DATA JACK

Ginn is probably the worst WR to play for us. Period. I really like Bess and Camarillo, but has anyone ever noticed how Bess almost always falls down after catching the ball. His YAC yards are probably horrible. He always seems to slip of trip or it looks like his head is way in front of his feet. I hope he is working on that this offseason, or getting new cleats, because I believe he can be a tremendous 3rd down receiver the likes of Welker.

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