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The fallout from the Marshall trade (incl. contract)

First, I want to congratulate the Miami Dolphins for doing the dynamic thing, the difficult thing, the courageous thing in acquiring Brandon Marshall today. Only time will tell if it is the right thing but we'll get to that in a bit.

Marshall is scheduled to arrive in Fort Lauderdale this afternoon. The Dolphins finally announced the trade was made at approximately 11:22 a.m. They are saying the trade is for undisclosed draft picks. Those picks are a second-rounder this year and a second next year.

[Update: The Denver Broncos also confirmed the trade and confirmed the parameters. It is indeed for two second round picks, one in 2010 and one in 2011.]

"I'd like to welcome my new teammate to Miami," receiver Brian Hartline said on his twitter earlier.

This is on, its face, a big-time get for the Dolphins. Frankly, there is no second-round pick this year that would have brought the instant productivity that Marshall is going to bring. Did the Dolphins pay a steep price? Sure.

But Ferraris are expensive, folks.

You will learn just how expensive when Marshall agrees to the details of an already set five-year contract worth $50 million. Details of that deal are not yet available but I'm told they've been agreed to.

The basis for the contract talks that happened the last two days between Marshall's agent and the Dolphins was simple: Marshall wants to be the highest paid WR in the NFL. This contract probably accomplishes that.

[Update: Adam Shefter of ESPN.com reports the deal is a four-year extension added to the one-year restricted free agent tender Marshall signed Tuesday and includes $24 million in guaranteed money. The deal is indeed for five years and $50 million.]

Marshall is not a speed receiver and has averaged only 12.1 yards per catch over his career. But he is dependable, he forces defenses to account for him, and he is a huge target for young quarterback Chad Henne. He is a red zone nightmare to match up with. He opens things up for other receivers on the field.

In short, Marshall on the field does everything the Dolphins offense has lacked in a wide receiver for many, many years.

Does Marshall make the Dolphins the favorite to win the AFC East? No.

Remember the team still has significant and worriesome holes to fill at outside linebacker, nose tackle, free safety and left guard. Also remember the Broncos never made the playoffs despite having Marshall on their team the past four years.

So don't buy your tickets to Dallas, site of the next Super Bowl, just yet.

But this does give the Dolphins a chance to be competitive in a division where the Jets will have Santonio Holmes and Braylon Edwards, and the Patriots offense comes with Randy Moss. Do the Dolphins now go into games versus the Jets believing at least one of their WRs can get open against Darrelle Revis and Antonio Cromartie?


This trade gives Fins Nation hope.

This trade will have a bigtime ripple effect on the Miami receiver corps -- you know, the one coach Tony Sparano said he was pleased with.

The Dolphins keep five wide receivers. And they now have 10 wide receivers on the roster. Somebody is going to go. Ted Ginn Jr. is on the trade block. He may have played his final game for the Dolphins. Second-year wideout Patrick Turner was billed as a Marshall clone at 6-5 and 220 pounds. But he has not produced and unless he has a very good training camp, he may never play a game for the Dolphins

Marshall is estatic with this trade, according to one former teammate. He wanted three things this offseason: He wanted to marry his fiancee, he wanted to sign a contract that paid him what he believed he's worth, and he wanted, if possible, to play closer to his home state of Florida.

Marshall was willing to live anywhere and play for anyone to accomplish the first two goals. He hit the jackpot in that the Dolphins wanted him and now he's coming back to Florida, a rich, married man.

This moves comes with responsibility. He must continue to produce at a high level. He's going to be paid like the best wide receiver in the NFL, the Dolphins expect him to play like it.

He also has to stay out of trouble. Marshall has a long record of arrests and run-ins with the law. There are multiple handfuls of domestic violence and other violence incidents and reports in which he was involved.

He has already been suspended by the NFL once for breaking the league's conduct policy. The next offense would bring him a four-game suspension or more.

In that regard, Marshall is a risk. He cannot be a great player if he's not on the field. He cannot be on the field if he's suspended or in some sort of trouble. So the risk exists.

But the rewards? The Dolphins are banking those will be fabulous.

[BLOG NOTE: I will be on here live starting at 1 p.m. for a live chat with you. Be here at 1 p.m. and we'll break this thing down.]


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Who get's the #15 jersey? Bess or Marshall?

I think (2) 2nd round picks was a very good deal for the Dolphins! What is your reaction Armando good or bad?

Don't even think about trading the #12 pick if Buffalo doesn't take Dan Williams at #9. The ONLY problem with drafting crucial, hard-to-find nose tackles high is that it is hard to tell whether a dancing bear such as B.J. Rajj or a hippo such as Ron Brace projects well as an NFL nose. But Dan Williams obviously does, and while I do like Soliai as a rotational player, Dan Williams is more ambitious, and has little chance of being a bust (which is nice at that pay-grade). And I like the Marshall trade cuz there was no one I particularly liked at their position in the second round this year, whereas if they can manage to acquire a third rounder for Ginn IF either AJ Edds, or either Jimmy Graham or that little-but-strong 4.4 Pitt tight end is still on the board, they could wind up with two helpers (including a defense-stretcher) in the third, and I would be ecstatic, and ludicrous.

Armando, Do you see the Dolphins trading Ted Ginn during the draft?

Armando, any news on Sparano meeting with JT? What current Miami receiver is very nervous now?

What! I would love for them to consider Dez Bryant, but I don't think it will happen. The odds are against it.

Bryant might go to Denver at No. 11. He is visiting there today. Also, the Dolphins have so many other needs that even if he's there, I don't see how they add another WR contract of that magnitude.

It IS possible if they trade down and Bryant is there and is the best guy on their board, then they might take him.

But more likely, this move today is the big splash at WR.


Do you think #12 is too early for Mike lupati ?

finally did something useful with our money. big play marshall will be his fins nickname, keep ginn for punts and kickoffs, and 4-5 wide reciever sets, the hell with the j.e.t.s. amd the pats if fins time BABY!!!!! contract is pricy but hey we finally did something that everyone has wanted i think this'll be good.

Who do you think is realistically on the trading block and what do you think would be the draft picks received via trading these players? I know anyone is on the trade block but who do you think gets traded? Every year there is an acorn dropped off a tree who do you see as possibilities for the dolphins? does this the pickup of marshall help jason taylor make up his mind to stay with phins and wait for an offer?

Let's go dolphins. Do u think we should keep Ginn?

Hey Gang Green !!

Youre FULL of crap! If you HAD a 2nd rounder this year you wouldve pulled the trigger as well. And you gave up yours for BBBBraylon Edwards ?? GET REAL... go read your NY blogs loser !!

Orlando, safety is a possibility. But he cannot possibly be saying definitively because he doesn't know.

I don't know, either, by the way.

Right now, probably three or four people know. And even they cannot be certain because they are speculating on who will be there.

What have you heard about the Dolphins interest in OJ Otagwe who could be signed June 1st?

Jersey, I have the pom poms on order. They are being overnighted to me from cheerleader.com

With no 2nd rounder..realistically, we may only be able to draft 1 starter for this season.

I say the biggest need is OLB. Morgan, possibly Kindle could start right away. Thomas and Williams are tempting..but we do have players on the roster now that COULD fill their roles role this season.
Also, if Smiley's gone we need a starter at LG...Iupati at 12? Risky..but I wouldn't hate it.

Mando, How does the Marshall trade effect the JT situation? Gives JT incentive to wait until after the draft to decide or give Fins cover to allow him to leave?

What about trading with Pittsburgh, they need dez Bryant. And get thier second round back. With 18 draft best defensive end, with second round draft the best nose tackle available. The only reason to stay at 12 is for the two safetys if available but the Texas guy seems a little small. There is always sharper.

Hey Mando, how much will this trade benefit Vontae and Sean, and do you think that factored into the trifecta's decision at all to pull the trigger on this trade?


Careful what you wish for...

Are you gonna go to the introduction Press conference? Oops nevermind! Maybe they will have an exception? You never know weird day in Dolphin land! What's the numbers on the blog visits up to?

Curtis, if someone gives the Dolphins a third or fourth rounder for Ginn, he's gone.

I don't think anyone will do that. We'll see.

What are you hearing about Jason Taylor's meeting with Sparano?


DO you know what number Marshall will wear since D Bess is 15? When does the front office finally resign JT and make this offseason complete?

I believe this move to get Marshall is just the first of a plan...Parcells doesn't do anything unless he KNOWS what his next step will be...I have read a rumor that the Eagles want to trade up to get a top corner...they have the picks to do so. I would not be surprised if they trade with the Eagles and draft Paul at 24.

mando after so many column from u they have finally heard us man im so happy wen is the jersy on sale im buy one and ima buy the new zig techs with dolphins colors to match wow this is exciting! damn it feels good to be a dolphins fan!

Also, do not be surprised if the Dolphins trade Ronnie Brown.

If they can get a second round pick for him, he's gone too.

I don't think it will happen, but he is available.

miami miami miamia miami hey i think its best for miami to trade back!!

I should mention that Justin Smiley is also on the trade block.

By the way, where are the people saying the Dolphins don't need a LG?

I've got something else overnighted from cheerleader.com

Armando -

What are you PERSONAL feelings about Marshall joining the squad.. not professional opinion..

I know Monday you said it was too costly.. now it's pretty much a done deal.. any change of feelings?

Can you give a % on the chances that

1. We are able to trade down

2. Able to trade Smiley for something better than a 6th

3. Able to trade Ginn for something better than a 6th

4. We trade Ronnie

Orlando, I talked to JT's agent just before starting the live blog. Nothing is happening.

JT still hasn't decided to go to the Jets. Nothing going on with the Dolphins.

Stay tuned.

- I'd rather keep Camarillo than Bess.
- If KC takes an OT (probable) and Cleveland takes Clausen (questionable), there's a good chance Berry falls to us. That would be the only scenario in which I wouldn't seek to trade down. Otherwise I'd look for it, although it might be difficult to do.

What up, Naples. I'm here, player.

Thank Mando, the draft just got more interesting for me. Finally the Phins show they do want to win.

From past history, and from what we saw during the season, do you agree that our young corners should be close to the best in the AFC East?

If only Patrick Turner becomes a real threat, with Marshal those are two big guys in the red zone

there is so many ways miami goes in draft! is smiley even worth a third? this is great what about a high 3 for ronnie do they bite?


I know you are high on Graham, but what are your thoughts on taking McClain with 12th pick (If he is still there), and moving Dansby to the outside?

Deal is awesome, but I'm still concerned about this team's defense, which let them down the final three weeks of the season. Thoughts on whether they go DT or OLB in the first round? Do they trade up? Or down?

Larry "The Amigo" Milian

Thanks for answering my question! Here's another lol With B Marsh's history of getting in trouble at clubs is the team not worried about him getting involved in the South Florida night life?

Dolphins don't need a LG... I think Garner should his shot as the starter... Every spot doesn't need a Pro Bowler... Garner has proved to be a good, versatile starter... There is no need there.

I have a feeling left guard is the position we address early.

Mando, is there a chance we keep Smiley?

If Smiley's gone LG is a HUGE void. Iupati would stack our line for years, but we have other needs..and I like Smiley.

hey mando this morning i was listening to joe rose show n there were talking hockey n then bammm breaking news n moiami traded for marshall i thought nice another april fools but there is a santa clause in april sweeet!

Jersey, No. 12 is NOT too early for Iupati IMO.

Now that they have addressed the WR position, the Dolphins have more wiggle room. They can go to OLB, FS, NT or LG, where Iupati fits.

I think they go defense but would not complain if they take Iupati.

Mando which do you think would have been better for the Phins?
Giving up the two 2nds for Marshall? Or giving up a 3rd for Boldin and the 5th for Holmes and having the two WR instead of the one? Money and Roster spots aside.

just another positive point of view to the BM trade...i really believe we got a great deal, from any aspect!

i think they take morgan becuase he looks like a demarcus ware very strog n i hear he has a good bullrush and first step do u think they like him n take him if there?

Mando !!

A TRULY great day for Dolphin Fans ! Trade down with Philly or Dallas, get the 2nd rounder back and all you gave up for the 2nd best WR in the NFL is a measly 2nd rounder ?? BRILLIANT!!

Kudos to the Trifecta! Youve been taking a ton of heat the last few weeks but you SHUT the world up !! I Love Miami baby !

Kydillic, my opinion on Ginn is if you can get a good fourth round pick for him, trade him.

If not, keep him and let him be your KO returner. I don't think he'll ever be a No. 1 WR.

Cubaphin....who would be the 1st best??


I hope the contract the Dolphins give him has a ton of clauses that can void it if he misbehaves again. Do you know anything about what kinds of clauses like these the Dolphins have used before and what they may be considering trying to put into his contract? Perhaps a bonus for every week he doesn't hit his wife?

Jacksonville has the best spot right now for trading up if a team wants Bryant don't you think? I think at this point everyone married Bryant to Denver. They might not be interested because of the history with Marshall though.

Ok Armando can you stop crying now. Your awesome bro but you have sounded like a broken record on here for the last two years about getting a receiver. Hope your happy cause this guy is one of the best. I think now we should focus on fixing the defense in this draft.

Curtis, Otogwe is a looooong ways off. I think he'll be an option if a FS doesn't fall to Miami in the draft. If a FS does come in the draft, Otogwe is a luxury the Dolphins might not want to take on after paying $96 million in trade and free agency already.

Do me a favor and kiss Parcell's forhead when and if you see him!

Mando, what's the thinking if they trade Brown? Does that mean they're gunning for Spiller? Do they have that much faith in Cobbs (and that Ricky won't retire after the season)? Are there other RBs in the draft they're looking at?

Mando -

Think the recent meeting with Dez had anything to do with this?


Today you get to say "First" - way to get the scoop last night.

2 questions:

1. Who starts opposite Marshall and why?

2. Do the Dolphin have deal(s) to move down and get back a pick?

remember i asked u 2 days ago what u would write if miami trade or drafted marshall or bryant u dont need to say anything because the emotion im feeling is fantastic i love this regime and owner. i love denver 2 becuase they gave us 1 WR n a great dcoordinator

I think outside of Eric Berry sitting there at 12 we have to trade back into the 20's. I think we can then get a 3rd rounder and still get the same type of guy. There are so many OLB guys (Morgan, Kindle, Graham, Hughes, JPP) that we can get similiar value and get that extra pick. On most BPA boards the top 15 are made up of QB, DT, OL, WR, Saftey and corner which for the most part we are set with.

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