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The fallout from the Marshall trade (incl. contract)

First, I want to congratulate the Miami Dolphins for doing the dynamic thing, the difficult thing, the courageous thing in acquiring Brandon Marshall today. Only time will tell if it is the right thing but we'll get to that in a bit.

Marshall is scheduled to arrive in Fort Lauderdale this afternoon. The Dolphins finally announced the trade was made at approximately 11:22 a.m. They are saying the trade is for undisclosed draft picks. Those picks are a second-rounder this year and a second next year.

[Update: The Denver Broncos also confirmed the trade and confirmed the parameters. It is indeed for two second round picks, one in 2010 and one in 2011.]

"I'd like to welcome my new teammate to Miami," receiver Brian Hartline said on his twitter earlier.

This is on, its face, a big-time get for the Dolphins. Frankly, there is no second-round pick this year that would have brought the instant productivity that Marshall is going to bring. Did the Dolphins pay a steep price? Sure.

But Ferraris are expensive, folks.

You will learn just how expensive when Marshall agrees to the details of an already set five-year contract worth $50 million. Details of that deal are not yet available but I'm told they've been agreed to.

The basis for the contract talks that happened the last two days between Marshall's agent and the Dolphins was simple: Marshall wants to be the highest paid WR in the NFL. This contract probably accomplishes that.

[Update: Adam Shefter of ESPN.com reports the deal is a four-year extension added to the one-year restricted free agent tender Marshall signed Tuesday and includes $24 million in guaranteed money. The deal is indeed for five years and $50 million.]

Marshall is not a speed receiver and has averaged only 12.1 yards per catch over his career. But he is dependable, he forces defenses to account for him, and he is a huge target for young quarterback Chad Henne. He is a red zone nightmare to match up with. He opens things up for other receivers on the field.

In short, Marshall on the field does everything the Dolphins offense has lacked in a wide receiver for many, many years.

Does Marshall make the Dolphins the favorite to win the AFC East? No.

Remember the team still has significant and worriesome holes to fill at outside linebacker, nose tackle, free safety and left guard. Also remember the Broncos never made the playoffs despite having Marshall on their team the past four years.

So don't buy your tickets to Dallas, site of the next Super Bowl, just yet.

But this does give the Dolphins a chance to be competitive in a division where the Jets will have Santonio Holmes and Braylon Edwards, and the Patriots offense comes with Randy Moss. Do the Dolphins now go into games versus the Jets believing at least one of their WRs can get open against Darrelle Revis and Antonio Cromartie?


This trade gives Fins Nation hope.

This trade will have a bigtime ripple effect on the Miami receiver corps -- you know, the one coach Tony Sparano said he was pleased with.

The Dolphins keep five wide receivers. And they now have 10 wide receivers on the roster. Somebody is going to go. Ted Ginn Jr. is on the trade block. He may have played his final game for the Dolphins. Second-year wideout Patrick Turner was billed as a Marshall clone at 6-5 and 220 pounds. But he has not produced and unless he has a very good training camp, he may never play a game for the Dolphins

Marshall is estatic with this trade, according to one former teammate. He wanted three things this offseason: He wanted to marry his fiancee, he wanted to sign a contract that paid him what he believed he's worth, and he wanted, if possible, to play closer to his home state of Florida.

Marshall was willing to live anywhere and play for anyone to accomplish the first two goals. He hit the jackpot in that the Dolphins wanted him and now he's coming back to Florida, a rich, married man.

This moves comes with responsibility. He must continue to produce at a high level. He's going to be paid like the best wide receiver in the NFL, the Dolphins expect him to play like it.

He also has to stay out of trouble. Marshall has a long record of arrests and run-ins with the law. There are multiple handfuls of domestic violence and other violence incidents and reports in which he was involved.

He has already been suspended by the NFL once for breaking the league's conduct policy. The next offense would bring him a four-game suspension or more.

In that regard, Marshall is a risk. He cannot be a great player if he's not on the field. He cannot be on the field if he's suspended or in some sort of trouble. So the risk exists.

But the rewards? The Dolphins are banking those will be fabulous.

[BLOG NOTE: I will be on here live starting at 1 p.m. for a live chat with you. Be here at 1 p.m. and we'll break this thing down.]


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Georgia, the Marshall situation has zero affect on JT. Does not factor one bit.

Mando, why dont they have Ginn return punts as well???

good money for Bees, how much for the #15?

OH, and Mando, you were screaming for a WR for a year (or longer) now, don't think I forgot that playa (you were in Parcells ear)!! GOOD WORK!

Hello People. Armando, what a day today?


I know you are high on Graham, but what are your thoughts on taking McClain with 12th pick (If he is still there), and moving Dansby to the outside?

Armando, what will you find to write about on slow days now? You'll have to find another topic to push.

Armando, what about a trade with a team like KC, Cleveland or Philly who has two 2nd rounders for our first rounder. We can still get a very good OLB prospect in the high 30's range and then still have another 2nd for a safety (Allen, Burnett) or NT. This is a deep draft for TE's and could get a top one (Hernandez, Graham, Pitta, Dickson, McCoy) in the third round.

Standley, that is a GREAT question.

Actually, the Dolphins don't have a fifth to give up for Holmes so they couldn't have played in that scenario.

I believe Marshall is better than Boldin but more of a risk overall over the next two years, all things considered.

I believe Marshall is better than Holmes, but LESS of a risk over the next two years, all things considered.

What do some of you people not get?

Ginn S U C K S !!

will jt look at miami n say hey we have a chance to win here y not wait?


Cant you find a LG outta of Berger, Gardner, Thomas or Incognito?

Forgot about the 5th once again thanks!

Smiley and Ginn for a Second Round Pick?

What do ya think???


Is Pat Turner camp fodder?

Mando -

Of the folks on the trade block.... who has the most value besides Brown that might be a draft day trade?

Mando, a source at the Eagles tells me they're very interested in Rolando McClain. If McClain is on the board at 12 (big if, as Denver is interested too) and Philly offered to trade their first round pick (#24) and the second round pick they acquired in the McNabb trade (#37), do you think the Dolphins would pull the trigger?


what do you think of the Trifecta now?

Rotoworld is saying Sparano will meet with Jason Taylor... Armando when is that happening?

I hope we get the Jets on Monday night football 1st game of the season!!!! Stick that Mike Nolan defense on them and have Rex saying one of these lines again: "We made Henne look like Dan Marino out there today"

Cubaphin, It is a great day for the Dolphins today. No doubt.

Now, I don't think I've been under a ton of heat ... I haven't felt any heat.

I also don't know how I shut the world up.

I'm just loving life sitting by the water talking to my peeps! That is living, campion!

I don't think ginn will be traded now. We wouldn't get much and u still think as a second or third receiver with speed opposite Marshall will make him good this year. I think the only reason ginn was on the block yesterday was in a deal where we sent a two, ginn, and a third for marshall. Ginn is off the block now

Awesome been waiting for something like this for awhile we needed a guy like this to improve henne.this will be henne's break out year.i can hear it happening over n over henne to Marshall TD.now i think we go defense and pick earl thomas at 12 so we can have another playmaker.and hopefully this makes the possiblility for taylor to resign with us.very excited for this year can't wait!!!!and here we come u punk ass jets and punk ass patriots!!!

JT back with either Kindle or Graham sounds like a dream come true right about now.


we're all thinking defense with 1st pick now. I know who your heart says....who does your head say?

Saving, cold. Very cold. Also funny.

It only took $50 million to get blog commenters to stop picking on the Trifecta.

How does Ronnie Brown feel about the trade rumors surrounding him considering when hes been healthy hes been on impact player for the Fins.


Have you heard any rumors about the language in Marshall's contract? Are there any behavior clauses included? For both on and off the field.

Was Nolan the key guy in their due diligence? Any indications that Marshall may be ready to grow up and quit getting in trouble?

great quote from todays Denver Post: "the Broncos made a good deal. The Dolphins made a great one."


hahaha Mando you are a funny kat! (pom poms and
I'm just loving life sitting by the water talking to my peeps!)

cool shyt... i aint mad at'cha!


Do you how much the signing bonus is on the Marshall deal?

I say trade down and go best defensive player avialable in 1st.

I'm thinking if Hartline continues to improve in camp, he could make a really good compliment for Marshall in the 2 spot. Throw Bess in the slot, which is where he excels, and use Camarillo in different packages and I'd say we got a pretty reliable group of WR's. Amazing how that can change in a morning. I think you gotta take what you can get for Ted Ginn, even if that is a half eaten sandwhich. And I say try and trade down in the first round and get that second rounder back and grab some D. Hopefully Thomas or Williams if one is there.

Mando, It's a beautiful day! What do you think of Dimitri Tsoumpas possibly manning the left side?

Don, I only cry at funerals and movies. I don't cry on here.

Yes, I have been one pissed off moefoe watching the Dolphins popgun offense with no legit WR the last couple of years. Can you blame me?

Were YOU happy with that WR corps the last few years? Was anyone?

Today is an awesoome day. The Dolphins now have a legit offense. And that makes me want to siiiiing!

Is there any truth to the rumor that Jason Ferguson bought his banned substance from Dez Bryant's mom?


What are the chances of us getting Berry from Tennessee with the first pick

Enrique, how about if I just shake his hand?

I've said it all day, Marshall to Miami, UK singing best recruit for this year and next, Rich Rod is being investigated again & Rex Ryan still has man boobies. What a great day to be a sports fan, been walking around all day with a sports woody!!!

Armando, do you agree? and your thoughts please,

I think one of the most important questions that will be answered with this trade is if Henne really is the answer at QB we all hope he is.

This will open up other receivers. Hartline and Bess must be very happy. Ginn if he could catch the ball would be great down field... Henne you are up...!

Honestly... at this point, I really dont mind ANY 1st round pick theymake because theyve addressed a GLARING need. They can go Any which way with that pick, but Id be happier if they traded back and got their 2nd round pick back, its a VERY deep draft this year.

Fake Cam Cameron- that's not funny. At all.

Mando, no reply as to Eagles scenario?


Do you think Eric Norwood may be there in the 3rd? It would be nice if we could land Thomas, Norwood, and a NT like Joseph in the later rounds. (but maybe Joseph isn't there in the 4th)


Actually if anything this trade was probably pulled off by Ireland. Of course Parcells has finally say, but he had to have been pursueded by Ireland and made a vow to recop the pick they lost. Marshall is not a Parcells guy right?...so either Parcells was talked into this, which is one reason he hired Ireland, as his think out of the box side kick, or Parcells has changed his view on wide outs. The former being more likely.

My question to you Armando, is which is more likely?

Image, the meeting with Bryant probably had something to do with this. The evaluation of other WRs in the draft also had something to do with this.

Parcells has complained that its hard to find playmaking WRs. He has said he can't invent them.

They've been looking for them. They obviously believe they found one in Marshall.

Armando, Have you heard from Chad Henne yet? What his thoughts might be?

Ok all this talk about Berry and Thomas at safety...I say Taylor Mays from USC is the guy we want, agree? Disagree? That guy is a monster, he's big, and he lays people out...I think he is a better overall fit for us.

Curtis I haven't talked to Ronnie this offseason. He's been keeping a low profile since that, you know, thing in Georgia.

Penne for a 15 yard Bomb to Marshall, who turns it up field for 50 yards

Armando, now that the Fins have made the big trade, do you see them going after a linebacker in their first pick or do you see them actually trading down to get more pics ? Also, on a scale of 1 to 10 ... how do you view this up comming draft, in the sense of talent and impact ?

Man the Trifecta gave up alot for Marshall, hope the kid grows up. Theyre so tight, playing poker for that hand, and when theres nothing left, goin all on with K J unsuited. KC Joyners got a point - Marshalls not that big of a deep threat that were expecting. If we dont get some Bryant or Thomas WR in the draft, Marshall is just more of the same for us.

Mando -

i love when you go live on here.. all our crazy questions get responded too.. it is great...

thanks for taking time away from the pool...

Mando, any truth to the Rumors that the FO was split on pulling the trigger on this trade and that Parcells did not want this but Ireland and Sporano convinced him other wise? Sure does not sound like a B Parcells move, but he does have the final say??

drg, no idea on clauses in the contract. As I wrote earlier, the Dolphins asked Nolan about Marshall.

He gave a big thumbs up, mostly.

Bosfinfan, it is $24 million guaranteed. He gets $29 million the first three years. He is the highest paid WR.

You in Boston? Love that city ... hate their teams, though.

when I speak o the trifecta, it is about Parcells, Ireland and Sparano... not you ! :)

Good call Pittsburgh: I predict the starting WRs for the Dolphins will be Brandon Marshall and Brian Hartline in 2010.

COWKILLA, Mays is overrated. He has great size and speed but can't cover and takes bad angles to the ball. Basically he is a bigger, faster G. Wilson. We need a cover safety to pair with Bell to help us with passes down the field and to help out our young corners. That is why people are mentioning Berry & Thomas because they are the future at safety, cover guys.


Who are they looking at, really, for the first round pick? I don't think I can handle another Teddy Ginn or Pat White pick?

Would they draft Tebow if he were available?

What about possible draft day trades?

COWKILLA: (@ 1:35PM)

Mays IS a Monster.....But can someone turn him into a Ball Hawk?

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