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The fallout from the Marshall trade (incl. contract)

First, I want to congratulate the Miami Dolphins for doing the dynamic thing, the difficult thing, the courageous thing in acquiring Brandon Marshall today. Only time will tell if it is the right thing but we'll get to that in a bit.

Marshall is scheduled to arrive in Fort Lauderdale this afternoon. The Dolphins finally announced the trade was made at approximately 11:22 a.m. They are saying the trade is for undisclosed draft picks. Those picks are a second-rounder this year and a second next year.

[Update: The Denver Broncos also confirmed the trade and confirmed the parameters. It is indeed for two second round picks, one in 2010 and one in 2011.]

"I'd like to welcome my new teammate to Miami," receiver Brian Hartline said on his twitter earlier.

This is on, its face, a big-time get for the Dolphins. Frankly, there is no second-round pick this year that would have brought the instant productivity that Marshall is going to bring. Did the Dolphins pay a steep price? Sure.

But Ferraris are expensive, folks.

You will learn just how expensive when Marshall agrees to the details of an already set five-year contract worth $50 million. Details of that deal are not yet available but I'm told they've been agreed to.

The basis for the contract talks that happened the last two days between Marshall's agent and the Dolphins was simple: Marshall wants to be the highest paid WR in the NFL. This contract probably accomplishes that.

[Update: Adam Shefter of ESPN.com reports the deal is a four-year extension added to the one-year restricted free agent tender Marshall signed Tuesday and includes $24 million in guaranteed money. The deal is indeed for five years and $50 million.]

Marshall is not a speed receiver and has averaged only 12.1 yards per catch over his career. But he is dependable, he forces defenses to account for him, and he is a huge target for young quarterback Chad Henne. He is a red zone nightmare to match up with. He opens things up for other receivers on the field.

In short, Marshall on the field does everything the Dolphins offense has lacked in a wide receiver for many, many years.

Does Marshall make the Dolphins the favorite to win the AFC East? No.

Remember the team still has significant and worriesome holes to fill at outside linebacker, nose tackle, free safety and left guard. Also remember the Broncos never made the playoffs despite having Marshall on their team the past four years.

So don't buy your tickets to Dallas, site of the next Super Bowl, just yet.

But this does give the Dolphins a chance to be competitive in a division where the Jets will have Santonio Holmes and Braylon Edwards, and the Patriots offense comes with Randy Moss. Do the Dolphins now go into games versus the Jets believing at least one of their WRs can get open against Darrelle Revis and Antonio Cromartie?

Absolutely!

This trade gives Fins Nation hope.

This trade will have a bigtime ripple effect on the Miami receiver corps -- you know, the one coach Tony Sparano said he was pleased with.

The Dolphins keep five wide receivers. And they now have 10 wide receivers on the roster. Somebody is going to go. Ted Ginn Jr. is on the trade block. He may have played his final game for the Dolphins. Second-year wideout Patrick Turner was billed as a Marshall clone at 6-5 and 220 pounds. But he has not produced and unless he has a very good training camp, he may never play a game for the Dolphins

Marshall is estatic with this trade, according to one former teammate. He wanted three things this offseason: He wanted to marry his fiancee, he wanted to sign a contract that paid him what he believed he's worth, and he wanted, if possible, to play closer to his home state of Florida.

Marshall was willing to live anywhere and play for anyone to accomplish the first two goals. He hit the jackpot in that the Dolphins wanted him and now he's coming back to Florida, a rich, married man.

This moves comes with responsibility. He must continue to produce at a high level. He's going to be paid like the best wide receiver in the NFL, the Dolphins expect him to play like it.

He also has to stay out of trouble. Marshall has a long record of arrests and run-ins with the law. There are multiple handfuls of domestic violence and other violence incidents and reports in which he was involved.

He has already been suspended by the NFL once for breaking the league's conduct policy. The next offense would bring him a four-game suspension or more.

In that regard, Marshall is a risk. He cannot be a great player if he's not on the field. He cannot be on the field if he's suspended or in some sort of trouble. So the risk exists.

But the rewards? The Dolphins are banking those will be fabulous.

[BLOG NOTE: I will be on here live starting at 1 p.m. for a live chat with you. Be here at 1 p.m. and we'll break this thing down.]

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Good Point Mando.

Thanks.

What henne no anwser really he prolly running around his house bcuz he's so happy lol

Awesome, thanks Mando. Hopefully they saw fit to give us a MNF game with the J-E-T-S Jets. Either way though, this AFC division just became a WHOLE lot more interesting ..

Jim in NYC- word! thats how they roll

Pittsburgh,

Robert Johnson is a STUD. He may be a little too skinny for Parcell's liking though. If he is there in the sixth we'd better pick him. Sylvester Stevenson is another Utah guy that should be there in the sixth and seventh. Could be a great special teams/backup OLB.

Very good point Swamy. but let's not rain on the parade today.

Today ... Celebrate!

I'm out folks. Thank you for stopping by. Thank you for reading my stuff.

God bless you all.



You're so full of it Armando can you ever give us something that's actually you know confirmed?

Posted by: Fishfan | April 14, 2010 at 12:29 AM


Mando I would like to apologize I'm the one who's full of it and you're the man!!

Thanks Armando for answering our questions. Your blog is the go to for Dolphins updates and insight.

One more question. Ricky Williams recently signed Drew Rosenhaus as his agent. Does this mean he might play beyond this coming season. I hope he retires as a Dolphin. Ricky is a great guy who has unfairly gotten a bad rep.

Mando the best thing to do now is to try and trade down from #12 and get a second round pick... What team do think is willing to trade up and get our #12?

This could be scarey good or scarey bad! Let's hope for scarey good!! woohoo!!!

Yea I agree Mando, definately not before Saturday. I'm worried about them grabbing Kindle in the first round. I'm not a fan and after watching some film on him, it seems like once he gets tied up or blocked, he's done. He doesn't get off blocks well and gets knocked off his path too easy by RB's. And in the NFL, there isn't going to be any straight lines to the QB. I'm a fan of Graham and his high motor like you are but I am also concerned that they are not of fan of his size. Looks like they may be starting to think outside their normal "box" so maybe they do grab him. Besides him I'm not so sure there is a OLB prospect that is worth a pick where they are gonna be slotted. (I don't see Morgan as a stand up guy) Here's hoping they at least get JT back.

Armando (@ 1:48 PM)

Its got something to do with Parcells's interest in the ' goings-on ' at Saratoga's Race Track. (...also a level of respect for three guys who are perceived to have wisdom in the operations of an NFL Football team.)

LOL...Come to think of it, Maybe its worthy of a Wikipedia entry.
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yo fins imma take carea you ride me to the super bowl

Eagles, Cowboys or Ravens.

Have to go C.J. Spiller with 12th.

Ronnie Brown will be shell shocked after two major injuries.

Ricky Williams is, well, old...

Spiller is Chris Johnson with Barry Sanders' moves and he can line up as receiver and catch the long ball.

Mando,

Any report on his jersey number? Is it definitely 15? Thanks for all the good information.

With Bess wearing #15. What will Marshall's # be?

Found this interesting point on ESPN. it talks about the true value of the Marshall trade, and how it affected the seahawks. To quote part of the article,

"The 43rd choice is worth 470 points on the draft-value chart. A second-round pick next year should be worth a third-rounder this year. A pick near the middle of the third round -- such as the 80th choice, coincidentally owned by Denver this year -- is worth 190 points on the chart.

Total estimated value for Marshall: 660 points, same as the 28th overall pick in the 2010 draft, more than the 580 points Seattle paid for Matt Hasselbeck and far more than the estimated 270 points paid for Charlie Whitehurst. "

interesting article.

Now I just hope we sign Sharper. I wanted Earl Thomas bad but we probably need a rusher more, get a DE @ 12 sign Sharper or trade down get Thomas and get 2 rushers with the next picks and a NT to develop in the 5th.

dont think we should have given up a 2nd in next years draft, maybe 3rd or 4th , remember Denver doesnt want Marshall around anymore and vise versa. I think we should have waited till after the draft , i know Denver is going to draft Dez and unload Marshall for less, and since being a Fla boy would love to play for the Fins. Watch Denver pick Dez for all of you who think he will be there when Miami picks. We need to unload Ginn and some others to get more picks and hopefully trade down to get that hole filled in the 2nd

Yes what jersey number will have ?

A source at the Eagles tells me they're very interested in Rolando McClain. If McClain is on the board at 12 (big if, as Denver is interested too) and Philly offered to trade their first round pick (#24) and the second round pick they acquired in the McNabb trade (#37), do you think the Dolphins would pull the trigger?

If we traded our 2nd Round pick, does this mean they wont draft Tebow anyomore???

This Deal just gets better and better

Pat White is bad enough.

Remember when Brandon Marshall called out Joey Porter? Called him soft and said he dances in the nightclub with his shirt off in the club? What's a Peezy? That shite is funny even more now

The Mike in Houston has it right, there will be snoww ball fights in h#!l b4 the fins draft Dez. Why waste your keyboard whining about it. Pick Sergio Kindle 12th and move on.

Hey Mando -

Thanks for taking time for a chat at this exciting moment!

Q: Is it set in stone that the Dolphins will keep only 5 receivers? I don't understand why at a position where often 4 players are on the field at the same time, a team would only keep 5 players at that position.

I was so wrong never ever thought it would happen. Back in the early days of the don similar thing 1st rounder 4 warfield. I really hope he stays straight just thnk bout it no mor 8 or 9in box or we can finally make them pay. Did u guys read gang green cryin no class even 4 thier fans. Now i wanna read bout henne & marshall practicin 4 hrs upon hrs to get that peyton connection goin. I am truly glad bout this you c those old clips marino hittn recievers deep on regular cnt wait 4 that gain. Been telln ya the trifecta knows whan their doin.

Armando:

Any chance the fins keep Ted Ginn and his family? I dont want them to but he would be good on go routes and kick returns.

lmao @ standley23

Spiller is a slightly smaller, slightly faster Reggie Bush with better kick return ability but without Bush's WR like route running skills.

Armando, let me mix one of my dumb questions in with this day of joy. In keeping with the fact you can't do everything at once, why don't the Dolphins just sign Taylor, keep Smiley another year and concentrate on NTs, Safety and BPA? Thanks for the hard work.

This is what Ricky Williams tweeted today:

"What a great way 2 start my day! We got Brandon! It's gonna b hard to stack the line of scrimmage. Ronnie & I r the happiest people on Earth"

Congrats to the Dolphins and Dolphins fans. What a great move bt the Trifecta. Our offense is finally going to be able to get chunk yards when we need to. Not to mention this will open up the already great running game.

I still haven't figured out what a Peezy is..... him and his popcorn muscles!!

Free agent OLB Travis LaBoy has visits set up with the Dolphins and Patriots.
LaBoy, in San Francisco on Wednesday, is scheduled to visit Miami on Friday and New England sometime next week. The 28-year-old also drew interest from the Jets in February, although they let him leave without a contract.

Hmmmm putting the pressure on JT

Well my Eagle sources say that they are in need of a guality corner...if Haden is at 12...they may trade up to get him.

Ronnie Brown for Frank Gore would be the next wise move. I'm calling it now. Death to the Wildcat!!!

AAAWWWW RRRRIGHTT !!

Get Well Soon Jim Mandich ! Hope to hear you saying that a WHOLE lot this year now more than ever !

I LOVE IT!!! NOW PHINS LETS PULL A MIKE DITKA MOVE AND TRADE UP TO GET SUH OR MC COY GIVING UP 2-3-4 PICKS! HOW BOUT DEM APPLES! GO PHINS

Parcells will leave the Dolphins after this season....we are seeing more and more un-Parcells like moves!!!!

Blbuck, spiller is chris johnson with barry sanders moves lmao!!! Dude love your enthusiasm but Barry Sanders has no equal and maybe never will.

Well, this is a make or break move. Not sure the Dolphins had to do it but they did it. If he backfires, this team will be set back for years like they were when Ricky decided to smoke instead of ball.

I hope it doesn't backfire.

And nobody can complain about this administration and their moves or Ross' committment to winning. he's spending a lot of that celebrity money on player salaries. he got the best ILB in free agency, the most productive WR in the NFL, and they will probably add the best pass rusher in the draft in Derrick Morgan. That's a banner offseason. And a risky one to boot.

A Dolphins' fan should never complain again. remember, a lot of you wanted this guy.

i agree on parcells, should be last year here. he was one of the front office who didnt want this deal

Do Not Trade Ginn, We wasted a #1 for him and we have carried him for 3 years why not keep him now that the preasure to be #1 is off, He might be a great #2 guy give him one more year to see if we have a one Two Dynamic punch. Keep Gin!!! Comon Dolphans get the noise going keep Ginn, We can not be blind to how fast he is and the fact that " The Beast" marsahll Might actually save hes carrear if he becomes a solid #2


Cromartie is flipping out right now, saying I just moved to the AfC east to get away from B. Marshall and I might have to cover him again sometimes!

ginn is close to going to the chiefs. miami trying to deal brown and also move down in first round

Free agent OLB Travis LaBoy has visits set up with the Dolphins and Patriots.

laboy is in san fran today meeting with niners, miami has no need for him

billbill --- Were you FREAKING there?????

No one has reported that.

If you know the guy's inner thoughts then you know more than everyone in the media...and most people on the Planet.
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billbill,

who are you to say parcells did not want the Marshall trade? I do not think it happens without his approval!!!

Mando & Mob,
on Marshall backfiring by causing any more trouble or continuing to have character issues for the Phins….two words, Bill Parcells!!!

Look at what Tuna has done to right the Weedy Williams ship.
BP is the old well respected in your face, yet calming lighthouse that turns "many" a young player into professionals.

I think Brandon Marshall will be the huge get that keeps Miami contenders for years, as well as Dansby on the other side of the ball.

EXITED ABOUT THE TRADE GREAT MOVE !!!!!!!!!!! DOLPHINS GOT A GREAT WEAPON NOW !!!!!!!!NOW WE CAN T GET BETTER ON DEFENSE SAFETY I WOULD THINK IS THE BIGGEST NEED TO FILL AT 12 OR SIGN DARREN SHARPER RIGHT NOW AND GET A PASS RUSHER AT 12 !!!!!!!!!AS FAR GINN HE HASNT LIVE UP TO WAT A 1ST ROUND PICK SHOULD IWOULD THINK A LATE 3 ROUND PICK OR 4TH ROUND PICK IS GONNA BE HARD BUT IT CAN HAPPEN!!I THINK GINN HAS PLAYED HE LAST GAME AS A DOLPHIN !!!!!!!!

Who do u think approved this trade??? If Parcells said NO it would have never happened... U outta ur mind??

I think Parcells gets guys exactly Like this. He had three previous diva receivers aka Keshawn, etc. That's what he does

This is a great day for the fins!! now we need a good draft to fill the holes..and i think i can smell playoffs for the next 5+ years!! great job front office, and it's a good day for dolphin fans!!

no i wasnt there, but nfl network reported parcells and a couple others were against trade. tony and ireland wanted the deal. guessing thats another sign parcells might be here for one last year

i like the deal. though it is risky

This is GREAT!!!

The only question now is: NT or OLB in the draft?

And where does that leave the opportunity to also draft a FS if we lose our 2nd round pick? Any thoughts?

Still, drafting a WR would not have made an immediate impact, so this is great any way you look at it...

I hope we don't trade Ginn. He may have just a need a legit threat opposite him for Ginn to get off.

I say keep Brown and Ginn, and draft that Idaho guard in the first round. With our third round pick, we can get a NT.

Also, dont forget about JT!!! We should sign him now that we do not have a 2nd round for this year and next.

prediction:

1. OLB
3. NT
4. FS
6. OL
6. OL
6. OL
7. best available

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