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Salguero NFL pre-camp rankings No. 32 to No. 1

For some reason, this morning when I woke up I got this wild hair idea to give you my NFL ranking of teams from 32-1. Six hours later, I'm done writing.

So with no further delay, the Salguero NFL 2010 pre-training camp rankings:

32. Tampa Bay: Gerald McCoy is an upgrade for the defensive line, but folks in Tampa will soon see he's not in Warren Sapp's league -- good not great. The quarterbacking is suspect, they've exchanged experienced WR talent for inexperienced and untried WR talent, the running game is pedestrian, and there is nothing about the coaching staff or front office that induces confidence.

31. St. Louis Rams: Improvement! They were the NFL's worst team last year but the truth is until and unless the Sam Bradford pick takes hold, this team will be struggling near the bottom of the pack. Sorry, Lou, but A.J. Feeley can be a lockerroom killer. And, yes the offensive line will be somewhat better with Rodger Saffold, but the DL, 27th versus the run last year, is a leaky dike.

30. Buffalo: Very few folks with other options want to go to Buffalo -- not bigtime coaches nor players. It's the reason the franchise has struggled since the start of free agency in the mid-1990s. The quarterback situation is unresolved, the defense is transitioning to the 3-4, they dismissed one of their more effective playmakers in Terrell Owens, and everyone else in the division is good. That is no formula for success.

29. Jacksonville: The big free agent signings were, wait for it, a special teams player (Kassim Osgood) and a defender (Aaron Kampman) that had 3.5 sacks last year. They reached in the first round on Tyson Alualu, nobody is showing up to games, this is a train headed in the wrong direction.

28. Detroit: The Lions scored core players in the draft's first round (Suh and Best) while continuing to shore up the secondary in the third round (Amari Spievey). Kyle Vanden Bosch will bring veteran professionalism to the locker room and some solid production to the field. But look out for the biggest jump to come from the quarterback (Matt Stafford) and wide receiver (Calvin Johnson) positions. This team has stopped declining.

27. Oakland: They actually had a good draft! Cryptkeeper Al Davis didn't over-reach or make any head-scratching gambles -- those have backfired in recent history. But this team is still overcoming the mistakes of its recent past (JaMarcus Russell) and the coaching is simply not stellar outside of passing game coordinator Ted Tollner.

26. Cleveland: The Browns have straightened out their front office -- largely by raiding the Dolphins front office -- and are well on their way to returning to, um, mediocrity for the short term. Mike Holmgren and Tommy Heckert Jr. have done fine work turning the CB spot from a weakness to a strength by trading for Sheldon Brown and drafting Joe Haden. If T.J. Ward can stay healthy, the deep secondary is also taken care of. But the Cleveland offense, No. 32 last year, still reeks. Jake Delhomme is highly paid but highly inconsistent. And that will be this offense's story in 2010.

25. Arizona: To recap, they've lost Kurt Warner, Antrel Rolle, Karlos Dansby, Bertrand Berry, Bryant McFadden, and Anquan Boldin. And while I love Dan Williams and Daryl Washington as their first two draft picks, adding aging vets Joey Porter and Alan Faneca is not about getting better but plugging leaks poorly. The Cards, a Super Bowl team in 2008 and division winners in 2009, will be fighting Seattle for third place in the NFC West.

24. Seattle: Leon Washington (if healthy), LenDale White (if motivated) and Russell Okung (if he lives up to his draft status) should help the running game improve on last year's terrible (26th overall) rating. That should also take pressure of Matt Hasselbeck and perhaps help him stay healthy. Simply, if the QB is healthy, the Hawks can vie for mediocrity. If the job falls to Charlie Whitehurst, a talented but inexperienced career backup, it's going to be a looong season. 

23. Washington: They were perhaps the most active team this offseason, hiring an outstanding new coach, trading for a future Hall of Fame quarterback, and adding more horses at running back than a stable at the Kentucky Derby. All that is well and good, but the quarterback is not everything. Donovan McNabb can't do it all. The offensive line, and secondary are question marks. The drafting of Trent Williams will solve some of the OL problems once he gets over his rookie growing pains. 

22. Carolina: One does not get better by losing Julius Peppers, having a coach enter a season as a lame duck, having no first round draft pick, and using the second-round pick on a player (Jimmy Clausen) who probably will not play as he learns the NFL game. As horrible offseasons go, Carolina is right up there. Their best move might have been picking Brandon LaFell in the third round because at least he might start in 2010.

21. Denver: Josh McDaniels acts like he knows things no one else does. So he's traded away a franchise quarterback, a franchise wide receiver, gotten rid of a fine defensive coordinator, reached for Tim Tebow in the first round, traded away his starting TE, and pieced together an offensive line with a ton of question marks and one major injury -- the patellar tendon tear to left tackle Ryan Clady's left knee. McDaniels will also learn that there is a reason Akin Ayodele was cut.

20. Kansas City: New England Midwest got significantly stronger in the defensive backfield this offseason with the drafting of Eric Berry and Javier Arenas, who will be a fine nickel player. The rest of the defense, putrid against the run last year, is still a work-in-progress. The offense should be better with the addition of running back Thomas Jones and center Casey Wiegmann. Both are in the twilight of their careers, but serve as upgrades for this team nonetheless. It'll be interesting to see what new OC Charlie Weis can do for QB Matt Cassell.

19. New York Giants: Yes, this is a surprise but this team is starting to age and not very well. Despite an emphasis on the defensive line, opponents were able to run the ball quite well last season. Adding rookie Linval Joseph will probably only make up for the loss of Fred Robbins. Jason Pierre-Paul is a project player who as a rookie has the feel of a wonderful athlete but only an average football player. He needs much work. The Giants have no backup quarterback, having replaced David Carr with Jim Sorgi. If Eli Manning breaks down, this is a cellar-dwelling team. Otherwise, welcome to third place in the NFC East. Again.

18. Chicago: They were 7-9 despite the fact Jay Cutler threw 26 interceptions. Twenty-six interceptions! If new OC Mike Martz can get Cutler to cut that number in half, the Bears win 10 games this year. The expensive addition of Julius Peppers will work only if the player feels he has to live up to his salary -- something that hasn't always been the case. The return of linebacker Brian Urlacher will help but the release of Alex Brown remains a head-scratcher. Former Dolphins seventh-round pick Devin Aromashodu seems on the verge of stardom.

17. San Francisco: They added a future Pro Bowl player in Mike Iupati but reached badly for Anthony Davis. Safety Taylor Mays will remind the Bay Area of Ronnie Lott in the manner he hits, but definitely not in the manner he covers. The team also improved its return game by getting Ted Ginn for a fifth-round pick -- a good trade for them. But let's face it, the 49'ers look set at most of their positions save quarterback. If Alex Smith can finally become a solid NFL starter, this team wins its division. If Smith continues his roller coaster career, this team once again struggles to win eight games.

16. Pittsburgh: They want to go back to their old pounding running game personality because quarterback Ben Roethlisberger won't be around for at least four games and possibly up to six games. The addition of Maurkice Pouncey to the offensive line will help that. Santonio Holmes is gone so the air around his former hotel room on the road has cleared. But that means second year player Mike Wallace needs to become the star his rookie campaign suggested he could be. The defensive front and linebackers are solid but the cornerback play is still a concern despite the re-aquisition of Bryant McFadden.

15. Houston: Signing a kicker and former Dolphins offensive tackle Wade Smith in free agency, while losing standout cornerback Dunta Robinson is not the way to improve a team. The Texans seem to be forever treading water around the 8-8 mark and this year bodes no differently as the defense seems weakened by the loss of Robinson and coming suspension of Brian Cushing. The offense has made no significant improvement. Matt Schaub will once again have to throw for nearly 5,000 yards to keep the Texans above .500

14. Tennessee: They are counting on this draft to help immediately and last year's draft to finally help because it certainly didn't contribute much in 2009. The Titans are obviously also banking on Chris Johnson being able to continue his torrid rushing pace which could be a reach because he simply doesn't have the size to carry 720 times in two years -- particularly not if he sits out most of the offseason and preseason in a contract squabble. The picking of Derrick Morgan should deaden the pain of losing Kyle Vanden Bosch.

13. New England: I'm sure there will be angry e-mails from Massachusetts. Too bad. Tom Brady is still great, but honestly, he's not working as hard these days as he once did. Wes Welker probably will not be around early in the season and it might take a while before he's 100 percent. The team doesn't have an offensive coordinator or a defensive coordinator and that's just weird. The cornerback spot is still a weakness despite the selection of Devin McCourty in the first round. And the running game ... well, what running game?

12. Philadelphia: The good news: Brandon Graham will be 2010's defensive rookie of the year and he will not fail any drug tests. Nate Allen will be solid in the deep secondary and Ricky Sapp will seem like a bargain if the Eagles let him rush the passer on a situational basis. The bad news: One does not improve by getting rid of a great quarterback and sending him to a division rival. The bet here is Kevin Kolb will not have a better season in 2010 than McNabb had in 2009. And trading away Sheldon Brown will not result in a net gain.

11: Cincinnati: If Antonio Bryant stays healthy and tight end Jermaine Gresham, a tight end with deer speed, is recovered from his knee injury, the Bengals slow-developing offense will finally give quarterback Carson Palmer weapons to work with. The prediction here is that Jordan Shipley will also become a favorite of the veteran quarterback. Cincy's defense is intact and actually improved the depth at corner with the addition of Brandon Ghee. Adam "Pacman" Jones? Special teams help. Nothing more.

10: Miami: They've come a looong way this offseason. Seriously. The addition of Brandon Marshall means the Dolphins finally have a consistent playmaker in the passing game. Adding inside linebacker Karlos Dansby and moving Randy Starks to nose tackle will help solidify the run-defense that fell from No. 10 in 2008 to No. 18 last year. The secondary remains a major question mark with the free safety spot a huge concern. If Chad Henne develops into a top-tier quarterback, this team should be back in the playoffs. If he doesn't, 8-8 here we come.

9: New York Jets: Yeah, they're making Super Bowl noises but that's just what it is -- noise. The Jets didn't improve by switching out Thomas Jones and Leon Washington for Shonn Greene and LaDainian Tomlinson. They took a step back which isn't the best way for a running game to go. Their pass-rush, nearly non-existent last year, will be better with the addition of Jason Taylor, and Antonio Cromartie improves the secondary. But left guard is a concern as is at least one defensive end spot.

8: Minnesota: Will he? Won't he? And how is his ankle? All the questions about the Vikings revolve around Brett Favre and whether he'll play his 20th season or not. I believe he'll play. I also believe age will begin catching up to him. Simply, it is hard to expect another 33-TD, 4,200-yard season from a soon-to-be 41-year-old. The Vikings still have an excellent offensive line and running game and can bring pressure on defense, but they don't scare the elite teams with a diminished Favre or Tarvaris Jackson at QB.

7. San Diego: The Chargers upgraded by adding rookie running back Ryan Mathews, who will retrun dowhill running to the San Diego offense. But there is no visible upgrade in trading out Antonio Cromartie for Nathan Vashar and Donald Strickland, who are nothing more than backup players at this point. The idea of eliminating a player that's motivated only 75 percent of the time is a good one, but only when he's replaced by someone as talented and more motivated. The Chargers failed in that regard. This is still a highly talented roster, led by perhaps the NFL's best quarterback.

6. Dallas: The Cowboys have plenty of talent at all positions with the possible exceptions of left tackle and safety. Yes, Alex Barron is now in town and will compete with Doug Free to protect Tony Romo's blind side, but can he stay onside? The team cut Ken Hamlin, who is still on the market, but hasn't really replaced him. Owner Jerry Jones took a huge gamble in drafting Dez Bryant, who is clearly still out of shape after missing most of 2009 at Oklahoma State. But the kid has great potential and seems to be in the right place because he'll get advice from Michael Irvin.

5. Green Bay: The Packers needed to keep their talent early this offseason and did exactly that by re-signing offensive tackle Chad Clifton and rewarding playmaking safety Nick Collins. The other major assignment was shoring up the offensive line and GM Ted Thompson did that by selecting tackle workmanlike Bryan Bulaga with the first overall selection. The rookie might play at guard initially. The Packers are so solid they used their second and third round picks to address possible future needs. 

4. Atlanta: They have the franchise quarterback. Matt Ryan reminds of a young Tom Brady. The passing game and running game are in great hands. The secondary is better with the addition of Dunta Robinson. First round pick Sean Weatherspoon is going to be a star in the NFL someday and will be in sub packages as a rookie. The Falcons will also get an added punch by the return of 2009 first-round pick Peria Jerry to the lineup, after he missed all but two games with a knee injury. This team has the feel of a comer. 

3. Indianapolis: The left guard question remains and there are questions about the return to health of safety Bob Sanders and receiver Anthony Gonzalez. But the Colts don't seem to be sweating the Gonzalez injury based on the expected improvement of Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie. On defense, Colts fans are going to love Jerry Hughes and Pat Angerer, who might become core players on the defense for the next decade. Oh yeah, Peyton Manning is pretty good.

2. New Orleans: Charles Grant is gone, but younger, better Alex Brown replaced him. Running back Mike Bell also left via free agency but the bad news is the Saints might have to pass more. Let's face it, the only things that can derail this team are complacency or a wave of injuries. Quarterback Drew Brees is likely to work toward preventing the former. That latter is a matter of fate. 

1. Baltimore: Anquan Boldin gives them an answer for third-down and crunch passing situations. Donte Stallworth comes with a new view of life after spending the past year on suspension. They drafted talented tight ends Dennis Pitta and Ed Dickson to offer yet more large targets for quarterback Joe Flacco to hit -- assuming Todd Heap isn't on the field, of course. Derrick Mason is back. Ray Lewis and Ed Reed haven't slowed down. Terrell Suggs is healthy again. And while house-sized defensive tackle Haloti Ngata recovers from pectoral surgery, the Ravens will give lots of training camp snaps to condo-sized Cory Redding and mansion-sized Terrence Cody at defensive tackle. Oh, almost forgot, if Suggs and Jarret Johnson and Antwan Barnes aren't getting to the QB enough, the Ravens will probably throw top draft pick Sergio Kindle in the mix as well. They're loaded!

[BLOG NOTE: I'll be off until next Wednesday, so I'll post again then. You have plenty to chew on until then, I'm sure. And remember to read my Sunday column in The Herald or online at on the Herald site because it will explain why I ranked the Jets and Dolphins practically together.]

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Heres something every true fin fan should own. If you have itunes or an iphone dowload Americas Game presented by NFL Network Episode 20 The Story of the 1972 Miami Dolphins. Only like 2 bucks.

GUYS, EVERY TIME A BLOGGER TALK NON SENSE WHICH MEANS NOT FOOTBALL ,FIVE PEOPLE ELECT NOT TO COME IN AND TALK FOOTBALL.PLEASE SHOW RESPECT TO ARMANDO'S WRITING BY TALKING FOOTBALL , PLEASE .

THUNDERBOLT, BY SPENDING 2 BUCKS ......WHAT I AM GETTING ?

Yo bro I told you lil mark. Keep talking that ish and u gonna get dealt wolf. That's a bet bama.

My friends tell me the sun sentinnel and palm beach post blogs are better? What do you think? I like Mando though.

Bolt- is it an app or in iTunes ? Are there any other fins apps in Itunes?

Where's Mando?

Yo rickm I agree. I've been dealing with a certain dude that thinks he owns this joint. I bought this to talk fin football but these busters keep talking they yaps about everything else. The heat. The prez. Too many these marks think they got their own. Had to straight carry couple to let them know the deal.

This


Is

It

Its not an app. It an itunes movie or tv show. Aloco its the complete story of the 72 perfect season from preseason to Superbowl presented by NFL Network. You get some cool stories by Don Shula Manny Fernandez Larry Csonka. Dan Shula is laughing telling the story of Csonka is the only RB to get a personal foul for hurting a DB. Must own this.

I am on the verge of leaving too but really do not want to. Can we all try to talk Fins for the next 24 hours. What do you think? Let's do it out of respect to Mando. He is an excellent writer although you might not agree w him. Let's be inclusive again.

Looks like the Dolphins are going to cut Justin Smiley before May 28th...I was hoping we could have gottensome value for him but it looks bleak

I GOT IT ALREADY ON MY I TUNE, THANKS THUNDERBOLT .


LET'S TRY TO TALK ONLY FOOTBALL FOR NEXT 24 HOURS AS RICKM SAID .WE CAN DO IT .


TO ALL BLOGGERS PLEASE HELP US .

I am dick of hearing about 72 and 73. I want to see the Fins make new history. I moved here in 76 and have been season tic holder since 79. It is time to move on. 37 years without a championship is too much.the time has come. We have the players.

Sick

RickM, glad u corrected THAT spelling error

Any of you guys go to the games? We need your energy . You are obviously all great fans .

One of the reasons that getting rid of Jason Taylor was important, to cut the ties to the PAST and look to the FUTURE...Yes, he was good BUT he was part of a Failed decade..." And from the ashes rises the Phoenix"

Season Ticket Holder 14 years...

Just got it on iTunes . Hopefully, in feb, we will have a review of the 2010 superbowl season- good catch on the spelling error. I think we should keep Smiley. He is a player when healthy.

Bobby- what do you think of a blog tailgate pty? Maybe we can get Mando to attend.

RickM, I would LOVE that idea, maybe it would stop some of the bad blood that flows around here

RickM, need to start bringing that up middle of August...see if we can make it happen

Is Ronnie running yet? Last I heard he was jogging lightly.

Ronnie brown

Worried bout Ronnie, read there are doctor's who are saying he won't be 100% till November...Lex Hilliard is going to get alot of carries this year IMO

Well that's a fun question, if we were to win the Super Bowl this year, what 3 guys would do the America's Game? Tony Sparano would be there, but what 2 others. My guess would be Karlos Dansby and Ronnie Brown.

The Bess is yet to come. Watch Davone blow up this year!

Bootang,

America's Game?

My three picks would have to include Vontae Davis.
He would be talking so much mad S H I T it would make Mercury Morriss blush.

Odinseye,

I love that smack talking, Davis is one of my top 5 fav Fins.

Don't forget BMarsh and Ricky. Why don't we do something for the Pittsburgh game as Jets and New England will be a madhouse.i want to me I want to meet Aloco, Home Eye etc. We will have a good feel for the team by then.

It will be great to unmask the bloggers. This is the most exciting lead up to a season since Danny. We have players again.

Met Vontae after his first interception in the Buffalo game. He was stoked!

Rickm,

I am trying to decide what game I am going to this year. I am in the Tampa area, and it is tough to get time off from work and school. I would love to go to the Jets game, but I don't know if it is possible. My dad is a huge Browns fan, I may fly him down for a Xmas gift and go to that game. I haven't decided yet

Cannot wait to see Bmarsh, hartline, bess, Camarillo and Ricky spread out on third down.

Bootang- let me know when you come. Can show you and Dad a great time-tailgate

**News Flash**

Andre Johnson traded to Dolphins.

The Houston Texans and Miami Dolphins have agreed in principle on a deal that will send Johnson to Miami and a number of undisclosed draft picks as well as players to Houston.

Johnson was quoted as saying, " Those HAARP waves are killing me man, I want to win a championship NOW"!

Likewise, Parcell's was reported to have said, "Give them our whole draft. Who gives a S H I T. We're all gonna be dead anyways".

SIDENOTES:

The Miami Dolphins will be gearing up this year with the latest sports innovations and technology the NFL has ever witnessed.
Aluminum foil lined helmets seem to be the latest craze in these last of days.

Don't forget to follow me on Tweeter. I will be giving REAL TIME updates as details become available.

Wow. Your cool. Fake news is so cool. Your so cool.

Wow. Your cool. Fake news is so cool. Your so cool.

Posted by: WickyRilliams | May 17, 2010 at 08:10 PM


Actually I thought it was cheezy.

Thanks just the same, I can live with cool :)

Rickm,

Will do, appreciate it

Bootang,

I asked this question earlier, so I don't know if you saw it.
Most info that I've come across says that Misi and Anderson will be on the strong side and Wake and Moses on the weak.

I thought Anderson did pretty good on the weakside last year.
My question is: Does anyone remember or have any idea if he played strongside last year?

Odinseye,

From what I remember, Anderson almost exclusively lined up on the weakside last year. If he lined up at all on the strongside, it would have only been for a play or two. I think what is interesting is I think we're banking more on the scheme making the players look good, rather than the players making the scheme look good, if that makes sense. Think of it like the wildcat, sort of. I think trust is going to be the biggest key defensively this year, as we will have some growing pains and may play a bend but don't break defense at first.

WHERE'S ROB IN OC,MARK IN TORONTO ,AND THE GREAT .....CARLITO ?

NYSCOTT , WHERE ARE YOU ?

Evening guys, Thought I would stop by and say hi. See if there was any "Dolphins talk" going on.

A couple days ago I was watching some NFL film with My Nephew (huge fins fan... Runs in family!!) from the early 90s through around 2001 or so. It was not all Miami film but they were definitely in there. We started goofing around comparing different player to guys playing wioth Miami now. Two of the comparisons were..

Seattle's Steve Largent and Brian Hartline.

Seattle's John Kitna and Chad Henne.

Obviously we were watching the playoff game in 1999 (last game "Dan the Man" ever won). As far as Largent and Hartline, you need to be a "seasoned" fan. He was drafted in '76 in the 4th round. Brian went in the 4th also. If you ever get an opportunity, take a look at any fild you can see with Largent playing. He was no burner but was sneaky fast. The thing they were most alike was intelligence. Largent is now a Senetor after a really brillant career. Hartline read absorbed the playbook and was on the field as a rookie and doing well before some much more talented guys around the NFL made it.

Now, as far as Kitna and Henne go. The ONLY thing I want to compare is the way they look on the feild and the way they drill the damn football. Kitna has wheels, he could move around an end and get the ball down field. He could also throw laser beams for 50+ yds with ease. They both also squish their heads into their helmets. Don't know whats up with that but "whatever makes it work for them" ...Right?

Henne is much smarter then Kitna IMO. He is also a bit more level headed. But I garantee you this, You go back and watch that playoff game in 1999, and just minds eye Henne and Kitna and you will see it also.

sorry for the long post, only way I could get it down.

I AGREE W/ YOU DEREK ,HENNE IS MUCH SMARTER THAN KITNA ,I THINK BOTH GET THEIR HEADS DOWN OFTEN .

Carlito from Golfito now posts at the Sun-Sentinel...guess he is really done

Kitna just never did not have the best situations in his career, He always had crappy O-lines in Seattle and Cincy. As far as his time in Detroit, who did not have a bad ride aside from Barry Sanders there? He was never on a team that was committed to winning was basically the problem. He is certainly not the first or last good QB to have that bad luck. But his arm motion and the way he moves on the field is so much like Henne or "Vise-Versa" its crazy.

Derek,

I can't even tell you what college Kitna went to. I have thought the same thing that Henne reminded me of Kitna. The reason I bring up college is what sets them apart is Henne was a 4 year starter at a major university. That is where I think your assessment Henne is smarter than Kitna, it is game and big game experience.

Barry Sanders still had a couple years left in the tank when he basically just "gave up", couldn't blame him...Barry had a great career with a franchise from hell

Bootang25, good to see you here again this evening, and yes that does make a ton of sense. Having played in Michigan did allow Chad to see some big time games. Just the one a year "Blowout" against Ohio State is a HUGE game for those guys to get up for. When they win and lose that game it means their whole damn season.

Bobby, yep, Barry said screw it just like Ricky did when Wannstedt was going to have him running it 40+ times per game. Barry saw that the Lions ownership just did not care about winning. Sanders was a "Game ticket" for them, as long as he was there people would pay. But they were never even in a playoff running chance... sucks huh?

Derek,

The similarities between Henne and Kitna are not just based on looks. Kitna had a tendency to lock in on his targets, throw terrible INTs, and put up good numbers against lower competition. I see a lot of that in Henne, and worry that he will be consistently inconsistent. He has locked in on targets since his days at Michigan. The confidence that comes from his big arm also can hurt him at times. At worst, Henne turns out to be Jon Kitna, that is how I see it with Henne. At best, a top 8 QB in the league. David Lee and Dan Henning are going to be the keys with him, all the things I mentioned with Henne are things that are coachable, things that can be fixed.

remember henne did great last year .if not for the dropped balls and the coack mistakes coaching the game we would in the playoffs.


remember the colts and saints games ? we were uo by 20+

I cannot deny seeing the exact same tendencies. And agree the Teachability will be a "HUGE" factor with Henne. He (Henne) also has something Kitna never did, A mentor like Chad Pennington. Who the way I see it, has all HIS strengths in area's that Henne is the weakest... Recognizing defenses, locking in on receivers as you said... and most of all "Touch Passes". I believe having Pennington back in Miami has a whole lot more to do with those two guy's Mentor/pupil relationship then having another "Back-up" did when the FO was deciding on offering the contract.

And, as I said before... Kitna "NEVER" was lucky enough to land on a team at the right time with the right guys... and you know as well as me "LUCK" and the way the ball "Bounces" has a lot to do with how it goes in this league as a player and a team.

Aloco,

Pennington started the Colts game. I like what I have seen from Henne, but those 13 games last year were not the only games you can use for Henne. His 4 years at Michigan included all of the things I mentioned, basically being very inconsistent. I hope he grows out of it, I fully expect him to. That does not mean a part of me doesn't worry about it though.

great post bootang 25

Aloco and Derek,

If Henne were to get hurt, who do you think would be the starter? To me this is one of the most interesting questions heading into this season. It's easy to say Thigpen is the number 2, but if it's week 11 and were in the thick of a division race, do we go to Thigpen? Or do we put in Pennington?

Bobby, Carlito is a quitter, leave it at that.

Henne pretty much carried us last season.

Pennington helped us out with an 0-3 start.

Our D kept putting us in the hole early.

Henne just kept on doing whatever it took to get us back in the game and into contention.

Kitna? C'mon you two. I think the Kitna camparisson is unwarranted. Screw it, I have a man crush on Henne, so I'll goes as far as saying unfair as well.

Kitna?

when i look at henne last year , i don't see many mistakes he commited compare to other players on the team .also i like the fact he didn't get injured . i have high hopes for him w/marshall,dansby ,ronnie,wake,davis and the rest .

no coach in his right mind wouldn't put pennington in if henne went down .

I wonder why Darlington cant sub for Armando. I mean even Pat White played when there was noone else. Should the Herald trade Darlington for an intern....

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