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Big doings for Miami Dolphins in next few days

A quick glance at the calendar tells you a couple of notable things about the Dolphins.

Today is May 28 so the team's mandatory three-day minicamp begins in earnest with a 10 a.m. practice. You should be here throughout the day for updates and also follow me on my twitter account for quickie 140-character updates, including some as practice is happening.

Secondly, June 1st is approaching and everyone is expecting a decision from the St. Louis Rams on what to do with free safety O.J. Atogwe. As the Herald first reported months ago, Atogwe will become a free agent unless the Rams sign him to a long-term contract, offer him a one-year tender at 110 percent of his 2009 salary (it was $6.3 million so the tender would be $6,993,000), or trade him.

I cannot see the Rams simply letting Atogwe go without getting something for him. That would be personnel malpractice. If a trade is in the works, Atogwe will sign his tender no later than Monday and then be dealt. Atogwe will not sign his current tender and stay with St. Louis.

Will the Dolphins be interested? Again, as The Herald reported months ago, Miami will be a player if Atogwe is out there.

The question is to what degree?

The Dolphins set a budget for what they believed two free safeties were worth this offseason when they chased Antrel Rolle and Ryan Clark. They landed neither. I believe the Dolphins will set a price for Atogwe internally and if they can get him for that, then so be it.

(It must be noted the Dolphins just saved themselves $3.05 million by cutting Reggie Torbor on Thursday so they have dollars in the 2010 budget to work with.)

But it's not a certainty the Dolphins would be able to land Atogwe if he becomes available because in a best-case scenario it could require a bigger contract Miami is willing to offer, as other teams will also be interested. In a worst-case, it could even require trade compensation and a big contract to land Atogwe.

One has to wonder how desperate the team is to make this move ...

Are the Dolphins desperate enough to offer a draft pick or player to the Rams in trade? Are they only desperate enough to jump into a bidding war? Is Miami's interest limited to a signing that would be big, but not fiscally irresponsible?

Or are the Dolphins out of this derby because they are truly happy with second-year player Chris Clemons at free safety?

Logically, I believe you can rule out the latter choice because the Dolphins already showed they want to upgrade the position beyond Clemons. Sorry, Chris.

The other questions that will tell us the extent of Miami's interest will be answered soon enough.

This much is certain, Atogwe will have suitors -- perhaps in Dallas, perhaps Chicago.

Or maybe, just maybe, the Rams step up and pay him.

We should know in the next several days.

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First. Sign the guy. He's an upgrade and will how the young guys how to play and help them develop.

Today is May 28, not March.

Maybe St. Louis will trade him to us for Philip Merling.

Missed that they cut Torbor...Thank goodness. He was the last overpriced mistake left (J Allen being the other possible exception, although as I've stated, I'm not sure he's as good as gone)

As far as the Rams safety. I just don't seen them making a 3rd blockbuster FA move; of course I didn't see the last 2 either...

Did I take the Dolorean to work today and go back in time two months?? I realy don't think Atogwe is going to be worth the big $ someone will pay - that being said we need someone to play FS. This is why the Tuna gets paid the big bucks, hope he makes the right choice cause I wouldn't want to make it!

March 28???

**Sigh**, the offseason is long enough Mando. Don't make us have to relive it!!

I was going to say did we go back in time?

Its Okay... Its a holiday weekend, he gets a free "Typo" from the team.

If still around from previous blog Bootang25. I was unaware of the S not having that responsibility. If he does not have the secondary calls, then who does? Is it apart of the entire D-set? or a separate defensive formation? I believe the "Mike" LB traditionally has the "Box" call. If I am wrong, I have no problem with learning please explain. Particularly the Secondary calls -vs- the "Box/Line" calls. Thanks!
It will be interesting to see if Miami is willing to step outside their "budget" (Mando's words not mine) with Atogwe unlike they were with Rolle/Clarke. I have been out on a business trip and did not even know about Tobor until a few hours ago so perhaps as Armando say that will allow the team to step outside their set safety salary parameters?

Derek,

The S does have that responsibility. However, some of the responsibilities are different from the 4-3 to the 3-4. The calls are the same, but in the 4-3 the FS typically lines up at the same spot. In the 3-4, they can be 10 yards off the LOS, or at times as far as 15 yards off the LOS. You can really be creative in your attacking style the more athletic your FS is, and if combined with good instincts, this guy can be huge in the 3-4. Your keys are entirely the same. Atogwe doesn't get enough credit for his hitting ability, his FF numbers are very good for a S.

Bootang,

Thanks for the education. I did see much more movement in the free safety since the 3-4 was installed. It now make a much more sense why you want this player to be a superior athlete and be able to chew up yardage fast along with staying in touch with the football. All matters that safeties are known for. I am certain the player must also possess the intellect necessary to keep all the offense in front of him and not allow WR behind the play as Wilson did so often. If you were a gambler in this instance, do you see the Rams letting him go? And if so, we already know there will be a bid battle... where are the numbers likely to end? $7mill. per year? 8?... 9!!!? The necessity is there, where can you draw a line?

Opening day for trout season in Yellowstone tommorow, Hopefully it rains so the tourists stay off the Soda Butte. Everyone have a safe and great holiday weekend.

Derek,

Injuries are the only reason I see them letting him go, he is one of their only real good players. Even if you don't want hin for the long haul, at least keep him this year and then let him walk. You cant replace Jim now if you are them. I doubt he becomes available. If he does, i think we may go as high as 5-6 million a year, it's on him to accept. He wants Antrel Rolle money I'd assume, but this late in the market/combined with injury concerns, he won't get that. If I was him I'd be looking for a 1 year deal, not sure if that will work for him.

I believe I hear what I was thinking myself. His value for one more season with The Rams outweighs their desire to see home go. Unless of course there was some serious trade consideration placed on the table. And even then, Atogwe must accept. I have a feeling Miami is going to have to make do and hope someone really steps up. Perhaps a player comes onto the radar, if not, there is always a draft around the next corner, Right? I see Miami really taking some shots at Skill players in the next draft. Perhaps a safety will be there that fits the bill. Hopefully now taking one at #12 this year will not haunt us.

The Dolphins will not trade for Atogwe.

Release
Eric Walden
Quentin Moses(who does not play special teams)
Pat White(no need for 4 QB's on 1 roster)

And we have plenty of money to offer this guy. He's an underrated playmaking FS that would deffinitely solidify our only hole on the team. Although I like Reshard Jones I'm not sure he'll be ready to step in as a starting FS just yet. Sign Atogwe for 3 years, 12 mill guaranteed, and were good to go!

We dont need him we have clemons tulver and the hard hittn jones! We should start jones off the bat hes mean and a ball hawk. Why dont we wear aqua on aqua anymore? go phins

Think MANO had a few too many LONG ISLAND ICETEAS.LOL

Nice DD good luck,but you probably don't need that.:P.a TROUT MASTER

Like my daddy still say's,(75)when it rains it keeps the amatures ....ametures ....ah well ROOKIES off the stream.nite.

Time Marches on when it May!

Atogwe's a 4-3 FS and would have to learn a new D. We have our long-term solution in the rookie. And, enough depth to help out in case Jones struggles. It just doesn't make economic sense to give up a draft pick and pay out big bucks for Atogwe! Pass on him and let's see who else gets released after June 1st. Although, it's gonna be hard if Mando keeps moving the darn clock back two months every few days! Lol.

Pass on him...work with what we have in place for DB's....We'll be OK.....stronger pass rush, different D overall, will give our guys a chance to step up...last year the WR's and TE's had all day to get free....as the QB had time...this year....he'll have no time! Watch for our INT's to increase big time!

Gee, I wish(hope) that Tony and company would want St. Louis to trade him to us for Philip Merling! I've never thought that Philip Merling was as good as he was suppose to be in the first place! I guess that he just excels in punching out pregnant ladies!

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We dont need Oj. As previously posted we have several players at that position that under Nolan's leadership will turn into studs. I say if we make a trade for anyone we trade for Bears TE Greg Olson to give Henne another playmaking option.

In answer to Derek;

At the Pop Warner level we used 2 defensive coaches to wig-wag the defensive calls, one coach called line calls and LB's the other coach called the DB coverage.

I'm sure the NFL is way more sophisticated than we were.

MY BIRTHDAY IS MARCH 28. LETS PARTY

MERLING ARRESTED. I BET THEY DIDN't INVESTIGATE

IT's TOUGH BEING A BLACK MAN IN AMERICA MERLING I DON't KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BUT LOOKING BACK AT THE POST SOME LEFT.

YOUR GUILTY!!!!

MY POINT PROVED.

THANX BLOGGERS

I mentioned that if Clammy was healthy enough to start the season, Torbor would be cut.

Next on the chopping block

1) Pat Turner
2) Moses or Walden
3) Pat White
4) Nalboner or Sperry or Sheets

Regards

Please dont sign O.J... no experience in 3-4, would be another bad move.

Play the better of Clemons, Culver or Jones

Regards

If I were to say "Was she a Jets fan?",would some of you call me a loser,or would you chuckle a little bit.Either way,I'm not gonna say it,but you know.

ACE:

YOU THINK I'm WHAT?

I DON't START BLACK vs WHITE THIS THING HAS BEEN AROUND FOR EVER. I DON't BLAME WHITE PEOPLE FOR ANYTHING THAT's NOT TRUE.

I HAVE LOVE FOR EVERY RACE I THINK WE ALL SHOULD TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT.

HOWEVER THAT's NOT THE CASE ALL THE TIME or HALF THE TIME FOR THAT MATTER.

IF I SAW YOU ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD I WOULD HELP NOT JUST DRIVE PAST.IF YOU WERE WHITE,BLACK WHATEVER.

CAN YOU SAY THE SAMETHING? MOST UP HERE WOULDN't STOP TO HELP.

LOOK INSIDE YOURSELF AND SEE THE TRUTH.

YOU MIGHT HELP IF YOU SAW A PRETTY WOMAN.
BUT THAT's HOW SHALLOW WE AS PEOPLE ARE.

WHILE MANY PEOPLE WERE BORN HERE IN AMERICA THEY CONSIDER THEMSELVES JEWS,ITALIAN,IRISH,P.RICANS, ETC...ETC.

I'm A PROUD AMERICAN BUT WE AS AMERICANS DON't WANT TO BE AMERICANS.

THE FIRST THING WE NEEd TO DO IS BE TRUE TO WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DONE TO CHANGE WHERE WE ARE GOING.

A COUNTRY THAT's BASE THEIR BELIEF IN UNITY IS NOT UNITED AT ALL.

A COUNTRY FOR THE PEOPLE IS ONLY FOR THOSE PEOPLE WE PUT IN POWER.

DEMs and REPs ACT LIKE THEY HAVE YOUR BEST WISHES BUT IT's THEIR PERSONAL AGENDAs TO KEEP THE ELITE THE ELITE.

MY POINTS OF BRINGING UP WHITE AND BLACK IS WHAT IT IS.

ONE RACE DON't CARE ABOUT THE OTHER AND BEING AMERICANS WE SHOULD.

OH I FORGOT

PEACE & LOVE

Cut the knott and crap of this "players"

1.Pat Turner
2.Moses,Walden
3.Thin White
4.Nalbone,Sperry,Sheets

And try to trade Merling,and sign O.J. Otogwe.

How much are the Dolphins willing to pay Atogwe? You have to remember that he is and only has been a safety in a 4-3 system. The Dolphins would have to identify if he can pick Nolan's 3-4 hybrid system quickly and within the stretch of the pre-season and a couple of OTA's. It doesn't seem feasible nor prudent to spend big money on a question mark.

I'd be surprised if the Dolphins went after him.I'd be more concerned about the injury bug more than anything.

Mando,

Maybe you have heard something from the fins that conveys interest, but I give this a 10% chance of happening. I dont understand why this fan base is always so anxious to just throw a check at someone because we think they could be good for us. I'm tired of chasing other teams players. Good teams like the packers, pats, steelers, they dont really do that. This guy is coming off of an injury, hes not playing as well as in the past, and our track record is that we are much better filling starting spots with draft picks than with free agents (ala gibril, wilford, torbor, ayodele, etc). Can we just work with the guys we have and let someone else overpay the Rams' recycled garbage??? If he was that good the Rams would be finding a way to keep him.

Dumping Torbor a couple of days prior to Atogwe's provable availability makes it difficult to conclude anything but that the Phins are planning on going after him via signing or trade. Given the scheme that our new DC runs, the safety is even more of a priority given all of the blizing that will happening, so that is one spot we need to have a strong playmaker.

Will Allen
Jake Grove
Jason Allen
Pat White
Patrick Turner

Should all be worried......

I think we're better off letting OJ go elsewhere.
What most people don't remember is that last year Gibril Wilson was considered a top FA signing... He was considered a solid tackler and a good safety... look how that turned out. OJ wont come at a cheap price... HEFTY salary, & we'll have to give up a lot to get him.

I think that the dolphins are setting up for the future by drafting Clemons & Jones. That'll give em a FS & SS for the long run. Bell is a stud, but also getting older... soon enough will have to be replaced. I think they dont pull the trigger with OJ, and stick with what they drafted. Save some draft picks (remeber we are already missing a 2nd rounder).

Remember Clemons was regarded as "the steal of the draft" in 2009, & Jones was considered the "steal of our draft" in 2010. Clemons is learning the new defense... but he certainly has the tools. Mike Nolan knows best. We'll see what happens

Brian,don't the Pats go for everyone available.....Moss,Welker,Seau,Dillon,Galloway,Fred Taylor,Sammy Morris,Donte Stallworth,Adalius Thomas and so on.In fact,I'd say they do it more than any team....now the Jets are playing catch up,but yeah,the Patsies are the kings of signing other teams players.And the best part is that it has some what back fired on them.They won SB's with 2nd rate receivers and running backs,but they can't pull it off with Moss and Welker?Something tells me Brady and Belicheat may be a little over rated.

beerndrums: yeah they have gone after everyone... and that's why they've had chemistry problems the last couple years. That's why you have Brady talking to media about "the team not playing as a team"... That's why you have Teddy B talking about the lack of chemistry and leadership in that locker room...

Justin,

People on these blogs get all excited about that stuff you talk about. That is what I was saying. It is like mentioning "chemtrails" to Home, it gets him going and thus gets everyone once else going.

Chris Clemons? You fail to mention the real deal for the FS position. Reshad Jones, Armando. Reshad Jones.

Guys, Gibril Wilson was never considered a playmaker at S. And many came out and said that he was SS before he even stepped on the field. Otogwe will easily be the best safety that has played for Miami in a long time... Only question I have is will he stay healthy. I think Jones, Culver and Clemons give us a really deep backfield and adding Otogwe will make the secondary a strength on this team...

I say give Clemons a shot...speed, playmaker at Clemson. We already got burned at FS in FA last year.

I seriously doubt Miami will offer a big contract or give up draft picks. I can't help but think they still have a bitter taste in their mouth from Gribl Wilson.

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