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The revote on Defensive Rookie of the Year

The Defensive Rookie of the Year award handed out annually by the Associated Press has been in the news lately because its recipient Brian Cushing was just suspended after failing a test for performance enhancing drugs, and then losing his appeal.

The test, reportedly taken last September, suggests Cushing played 2009 while benefitting from a cycle of PEDs that are banned by the NFL.

So the AP yesterday decided to have a revote. The 50 people who vote annually on the AP All-Pro team and post-season awards got an e-mail ballot that is due Wednesday. I am one of those voters. I had no trouble re-submitting my ballot.

I orginally picked Buffalo safety Jairus Byrd as my DROY choice and was only one of six people to do so. Cushing got 39 votes. I simply stuck with my original vote.

The AP also took a revote on the outside linebacker position. In that one, I had to make a change. I had originally voted for Cushing and Elvis Dumervil. In my new ballot I changed out Cushing for DeMarcus Ware, who was an All-Pro selection even without my original vote.

So here is the question: Do you, as fans, believe a positive drug test can rightfully cost a player a post-season award because his performance was enhanced by a drug?

I obviously do think the award deserved a revote. And I'll live with the results of the majority. But I have a bad taste about giving any award to someone who gains it by cheating.

The reason I'm blogging this is that someone following me on twitter wanted me to vote for Vontae Davis or Sean Smith for DROY. Now, I have no problem voting for local guys. In fact, I feel I know them best as I've watched all their games.

That's the reason I voted for Tony Sparano as coach of the year in 2008 (he didn't win) and voted for Jake Long for All-Pro last year (he got it).

But Vontae Davis or Sean Smith for DROY?

I believe both played well at times. I believe both made strides. I believe both will continue to improve and become better players. But both also had moments in which they struggled.

Davis was beaten deep a handful of times. Smith's coverage was not always as tight as one would want and he didn't have any interceptions. In defending Gibril Wilson at the Indianapolis Combine, general manager Jeff Ireland laid some of the blame for the lapses in the secondary on the rookies.

Byrd, meanwhile, had nine interceptions. No, he wasn't Ronnie Lott in run-support. But which one of you wouldn't have taken nine interceptions from your free safety last year?

So I cast my vote. I'm sticking with it.

Discuss ...

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Bobby,

I have-
Liver disease
ACNE
A small sac
High Cholesterol
Rage Against the Machine
Mc Duffie Toe
Camel Toe
A fissure from too much Blogging
Lisfranc foot ala (Ronnie Brown)
Bulging Disc ala (Tiger Woods)
Kardashian Ass Syndrome
Alligator Arms ala (Ginn)

All diagnosed at the Mayonaise Clinic

Yet I have never knowingly taken Roids?

Go Phins!

Unfortunately he is a cheater and can be added to a long list of cheaters and should clearly be stripped of any awards. However, there is a much bigger issue here that I do not here people talking about as much as they should. There is a real story here.

He was publicly known to be a steroid/GH abuser in high school when he went from 190lbs to 225lbs his senior year. A man amongst boys. We could have all benefited from an extra 35lbs of rock hard muscle. Result: Full ride to USC, free education and in reality may have taken someone elses scholorship.

He was then suspected to be a steroid/GH abuser at USC. He added 10lbs before school started and went up to 235lbs. He graduated at 255-260lbs from USC. Result: 1st round draft pick and in reality may have taken someone elses spot in the draft.

Here you have a kid that everyone and their mother knew was on drugs in HS. His parents did nothing, his HS coach did nothing, USC's Coach Carroll still awarded him with a free education and then either directed him on what to take while at USC or turned his head. Then he apparently tests positive at the combine and the Texans still spend a 1st round pick on him? Nobody cares.

A 4 game suspension is nothing more than the cost of doing business to a Cushing, and that is sad. It is sad when everyone knows and does nothing about it. It is sad when the punishment is well worth the crime (financially anyway).

Clay Matthews has a similar weight story that may very well end the same way I suspect.

When will everyone get serious and actually do something about what we all know is going on? When will the punishment be so harsh that it deters someone from doing the crime?

Anyone that does not cheat, hates cheaters. Because we love the competition as long as it is fair.

Who is going to do something about it? For real.

NYScott, you know we've disagreed in the past, particularly about weed and Ricky.

This will have to be another disagreement. I've lifted naturally, I've lifted on juice. Granted, it WAS easier, and I had better gains on the juice, I still had to bust my tail. The muscles don't grow themselves. I just don't think of it as cheating. I've tried every supplement imaginable (Which, if you want to look in a purist form, is ALSO cheating), but, they all paled in comparison. I figured if I was going to spend that kind of money, at least with some DBol and test I'd get some ROI...and I did. I would and will do them again. I think that if people chose NOT to use them, so be it. If you want to complain that it's not fair, then USE, if not, shut up and take 2nd place. (Not you personally Scott) Life's not fair. It's a calculated risk that some consider worth it, and other's don't.

Yeah....but I still LOVE the way Cushing plays...

Makes me wish everyone was on Roids!


Then again if EVERYONE took roids, there would probably be less than 2 future generations of
P E O P L E !!!
.
.


SURE a White Gut gains 60lbs in High School and he's doing Roids? Suuuuuure! Oh I seee! Oh! Yeahh! Suuure!


Go Phins!

Rob in OC - Welcome back!

....and don't let me find out that you have had ANYTHING to do with the current ' Domestic ' Conspiracy Freak
who has be terrorizing our 'once lovely' Blog!

Cheers!
.
.

Marc, Is it true Testicles shrink While Juicing???????, Makes it easier to tape the smickle in when wearing a evening gown I bet.....

Rob in NJ,

On a serious note...

Well said Bro!

Go Phins!

Besides, that list of side effects you mentioned is MUCH shorter than alcohol's list, and that does NOTHING positive for you...

Cuban, I'll respond this once because it's a valid question, at least half of it.

Yes, WHILE ON A CYCLE your testicles stop naturally producing test and diminish in size. They re-inflate once they start pumpin' again...

Wouldn't know. Never wore an evening gown.

NYScott (@ 4:48 PM)

Wall Street F O R E V E R !!!
.
.

Sorry Marc, My bad...........

No Marc, we want monsters, but we don't want
unnatural players, otherwise you can never compare them to the stats of other great clean players. These guys know what the rules are-
they wanted greatness--thru the shortcut-screw them for their cheating. Screw them for playing on our emotions!

John in Springs: Commonly given medical steroids like Prednisone or Medrol for immune suppression, or asthma/COPD inhalers for the lungs are glucocorticoids, a type of steroid. The type these guys are in trouble for abusing are anabolic steroids, which promote growth of muscles, and have no place in being prescribed to young healthy males playing pro sports.

Marc,

Wrong! Positives of Alcohol-
I think I can kick everyone's ass

Ugly chicks turn into Beauty Queens

Helps me unwind

Gives me the courage to put my wife in check

Taste great with various cuisine from around the world

When my wallet is weighing me down, I can unload a wad of cash on a $12.00 beer at Land Shark Stadium on a beer.

All that seems positive?

Go Phins!

The only problem I have with this re-vote, is that where is that there are plent of cheaters that have accolades, awards, or big contracts. Will the NFL go back and begin to strip those players of their accomplishments! Why start with Cushing? A suspension seems enough for me, plus the public humiliation that he is a cheater. Should Jullius Peppers be stripped of his 2002 DROY, or Merriman taken of his DPLOY award? What is the diiference. If this sets the precedance for future cheaters I'm Ok with this decision. If this is awitch hunt or public relations stunt by the NFL, than Let Cushing keep the award. Who will remember, or care in 10 years anyway.

Ugly chicks turn into Beauty Queens

Posted by: Martin | May 11, 2010 at 06:11 PM

Martin, Unfortunately the next morning you wake up next to a Sea donkey.................

Rob in NJ: (@ 5:52 PM)

There's always Mandatory Blood Tests for each player.

B l o o d
doesn't Lie.


...but NFLPA would freak out.....so good luck.
.
.

GYNECOMASTIA!

Enough of a deterrent for me!

Go Phins!

All good points Martin...

But, it'll kill you just the same

Mark in Toronto: most American do not think or say Canadian when they disagree with you--just a few nuts on this forum. In fact most American like and admire Canadians, except a few Bushites that think that the Canadians should have fought the bad war in Iraq with US.

Martin, Though it pains me to say, I've gotta agree with Marc on this one.......

Keith Richards!

Case Closed!

Go Phins!

Never thought Cushing was going to be as good in the NFL as the hype
Could not believe his apparent success

Now the truth has surfaced
Cushing cheated and used illegal drugs

Be surprised if Cushing ever amounts to more than average or below average without cheating

Also like to thank
Miami Herald IT Dept for catching imposter stealing my ID and deleting the comments this cheat had posted

Lenny Bruce was not afraid
and
I Feel Fine

Herb, me and MarK go way back...He doesn't need your protection. They have MOUNTIES, Eh?

Respect Canucks though? Come on, really?

Martin, some people are prone to b!tch tits, I am not...Sucks for those that are...However, if you take the proper anti-estrogens post-cycle, like clomid you can avoid gynecomastia...Or, so I've heard...


Martin, some people are prone to b!tch t!ts, I am not...Sucks for those that are...However, if you take the proper anti-estrogens post-cycle, like clomid you can avoid gynecomastia...Or, so I've heard...

It Saddens Me
That the Youth of America and Young(Cushing) & Old(Ferg) Pro Athletes
Have Not Learned Yet

What Kind Of Lesson Does This Teach To Aspiring Young Athletes

This Should Have Been Enough A Lesson Long Ago

Lyle Martin Alzado (April 3, 1949 – May 14, 1992)
Dead at 43 yrs old as Tumors and Cancer Ravaged his Body from Massive Illegal Steroid Abuse

hey marc your a loser why the heck would you defend peope taking drugs, and people who take drugs only defend them and try to get other people to take them so thay arent diffrent and weird like you.

P.S go die

Home you said it..."abuse" Abuse really is the way to hurt your body bad. Control with steriods will not hurt you unless you have a genetic issue with your heart, lungs, ect..
Playing ball in college, when you hurt your knee or anything like that they DO give you steroids while you rehab so you don't have one chicken leg and one normal size one. I've seen it, my friends were prescribed them all the time. So stories like this don't effect young athletes like you think because they all have either used them or know someone that has.

Wait someone said Jason Taylor took roids is that true

Phin..for the exact reason I just stated below...has nothing to do with promoting drug use my friend. If you haven't heard what unsaid before I'm telling you it is 100 percent true

As far as JT goes, I don't know if he did or not. Wouldn't surprise me with the injuries he had

Marc why are you supporting drugs thats just wrong and the only reason you try to get other people to is os you arent diffrent from everyone else.Also it really sucks that Cusing did this because he was really becoming good and the texans were finally getting a good D and i really thought he was a great player but i guess the best rookie linbacher is James Lauriniatis from osu

I would prefer none of you took them so I can have an unfair advantage Phlim Phlam, and YES, it's highly probable that JT took them. He never tested positive I don't believe.

I agree with you that cheaters should not be given any reward and if an award is given it should be withdrawn. Having said that, it is time for the Patriots to return all Superbowl rings and Lombardi trophy's they won in their last Super Bowls.

Supporting drugs is wrong? WOW. I suppose you only take the GOOD drugs that the FDA approves that kill people all day, huh?

Again, the FDA does not give a hoot about you. Dangerous drugs get approved EVERY DAY.

I do my own research and form my OWN opinions. I don't need the government, or anyone else making my decisions for me...With that said, I'm not TELLING anyone to take steroids.

Cowkilla
Understand used properly and on a very limited basis
They are probably ok
In The Same Instance
Tore my ACL completely in half close to Brett Favres current age
Walked (limped on it)and went to work for 3 months before surgery
Had cadaver replacement surgery on ACL
Had PCL stitched up
Two Nights in Hospital
5 Months Health South Rehab

Following Year and Present Time
Still Run (many times on concrete) on a Regular Weekly Basis
Knee Is Fine

No Steroids
Imagine That

Do you know how many people would have to give up their awards if they could retroactively test?

ok, for all you who claim it's cheating consider this:

We can safely assume that Cushing, Peppers, LT, Bo Jackson, Canseco, McGuire, etc were not the ONLY players hittin' the juice right?

that's safe to say, right?

Yet, they still SURPASSED all the other "cheaters" and non-cheaters alike. Therefore, EVEN THOUGH OTHER PEOPLE WERE ALSO TAKING PED'S. They were STILL better...

They aren't a magic pill, you still need talent and genetics, and WORK to be great, drugs or not...

I caugth you knocking'
at my cellar door
I love you, baby,
can I have some more
Ooh, ooh, the damage done.

I hit the city and
I lost my band
I watched the needle
take another man
Gone, gone the damage done.

I sing the song
because I love the man
I know that some
of you don't understand
Milk-blood
to keep from runnin out.

I've seen the needle
and the damage done
A little part of it in everyone
But every junkie's
like a settin sun.

-Neil Young

Go Phins!

Brian Cushing?

Very close to Pin Cushion?

Hymmm?


I'm out!
Go Phins!

Marc you got it man...actually guys Marc is correct! Weather you guys like it or not just because the FDA "ok's" a drug doesn't mean crap. It's all politics and public view, and what's generally "accepted" by the public. For example alchohol...it kills more people each year than any other approved or non- approved substance period! But alcohol is accepted by the public so we "think" in our minds it is ok. Do you see what I'm saying here?

We aren't approving of drug use here...merely stating the facts and telling some behind the scenes stuff that goes on..its for some of you whom haven't experienced certain things. If you never played college football before you just wouldn't know (or want to believe) that steriods and such are a common thing in locker rooms and training departments. My buddy at Connecticut, he was a RB, he tore his ACL and MCL, the CT staff gave him steriods in a controled manner (not abusively), while he was rehabing his knee, and guess what happened?? Not a thing except that his bad leg he couldn't run or walk on did not atrophe while he was recovering. It happens everyday in this country my friend weather you want to see it or not.

I concur with you "Killa", But the rules are the rules,And the rule in the NFL is "NO PED"... case closed..........

"It was addicting, mentally addicting," "I just didn't feel strong unless I was taking something."

Lyle Alzado, S.I. Interview, January, 1991

"That violence that you saw on the field was not real stuff. Lyle used football as a way of expressing his anger at the world and at the way he grew up,"

Peter Alzado, Lyle's brother, on ESPN
March 1991

"I pray to God no one has to feel and experience what I have over the past 2 years. I hope that all of you listen when I tell you that what I gained by taking steroids could never be enough to make me forget the look on my wife and kids faces now that they know I am going to die"

Lyle Alzado.... April 15, 1992

Alzado died on May 14, 1992 at his home in Portland, Ore. The official cause of death was complications from brain cancer brought on by chronic steroid use.

I don't really trust a sane person.
Lyle Alzado

Pharmaceutical Companies are Some of the Biggest
Corrupt White Collar Criminal Companies in the World
Most of these Magic Pills are not needed
The Prices Are Outrageous
It Is A Huge Scam In Western Medicine
Most American Doctors Dont Give A Hoot About Your Health
They Know If They Prescribe enough Of The Toxic Crap w/ Side Effects That Are Worse Than The Original Problem
They Will receive A New Mercedes, Boat or Golf CC Membership

U R Simply going Thru the Governments Pimps

Once U Get Started On The Magical Pills U R Either Become Addicted or If U Stop Taking Them
U Will Suffer Detrimental Effects and Possibly Send Your body Into Shock
Killing U
All part of the Dumbing Down Process

Wake Up People!


Hi Cuban..yessir, I agree with you 100 percent my friend. The rules are the rules. I was just trying to clear up that back and fourth thing Marc and that guy had going on ;)

Nice post Derek
Reinforces my earlier post on Alzado & Roids

UH OHHHHH, I smell Conspiracy..........

LOL @ Menace

I Calls It the Way
I Sees It

Popeye

No Roids Needed

I`m Strong Thru The Finish
Cuz I Eats
Me Spinach

Popeye

I guess cushing pushed his luck and finally got caught . Goes to serve him the truth always wins in the end.

Stuff that ends in "oid" is just real bad.

Hemorrhoid
Asteroid
Steroid
Humanoid
Arachnoid
Droid
Sigmoid
Fybroid

Go Phins!


Good picks Mandy, amagine Byrd went 2 picks ahead of White. Wow he would be nice.

Wow, so Alzado, the guy who admittedly never came off cycle suffered tremedously, imagine that...

SAY HELLOO TO THE BAD GUY.

Marc,

If the FDA is only out to make money(and I agree with you on this), why don't they legalize anabolic steroids for general consumption/use?

They get kickbacks from the pharmecutical companies. Seems like there's a lot of money to be made in this market.

Honest, serious question. Got any theories on this?

Odin, they do make money selling them as prescribed drugs. As COWKILLA mentioned, the drugs that are illegal are so based on public opinion and perception. With the misinformation the public is fed about juice (roid rage, etc), it's no wonder...

Ask yourself first why they banned weed. Although Hawaii, Arizona, and now Cali are starting to tax and sell weed now.

Roid rage is true, just look at NJ. I did not know he took creatine also?

AFTER CATHING UP ARMANDO WAS WAY OFF WITH THE REBUILDING THING.

THe FIRST YEAR WASN't ABOUT THE REBUILDING PROCESS IT WAS TO GET PLAYERS IN THAT CAN CHANGE THE CULTURE.

MOST OF THE STATERS WERE FROM THE 1-15 SEASON THEY DIDN't JUST GUT OUT THE TEAM.HOWEVER THEY BROUGHT IN FREE AGENTS AND ROOKIES THAT CAN COMPETE FOR THE JOBS OR BE READY IN YEAR TWO.

LONG and LANGFORD STARTED. HENNE WAS BEING GROOMED AND MERLING WAS COMING OFF AN INJURY AND DONALD THOMAS WAS INJURED EARLY IN THE SEASON

THE FREE AGENTS THAT CAME IN WERE DUDS BUT WHO KNEW. THEY WERE GOOD PLYERS WHILE THEY WERE WITH THIER OLD TEAMS.

AS FAR AS TAKING A STEP BACK LAST YEAR I ALSO DISAGREE.

WE HAD TO PLAY ALL OF THE TOUGH TEAMS. MATTER OF FACT WE PLAYED NEARLY IF NOT EVERY SINGLE PLAYOFF TEAM. 2 WE HAD TO PLAY TWICE and WENT 3-1 AGINST THEM. ONE WAS THE JETS WITH THE BEST D IN THE GAME AND THE OTHER THE PATS WITH ONE OF THE BEST Os IN THE LEAGUE.

WE STOOD TALL AGINST THE COLTS and SAINTS AND ALMOST MADE THE PLAYOFFS AFTER COMING BACK AGINST THE SUPERBOWL CHAMPS JUST TO LOSE A CLOSE GAME.

ARMANDO:

YOUR SO WRONG WE're NOT REBUILDING ANYMORE WE're ADDING STARTERS and GREAT BACK-UPS.

THE FINS ARE BACK AND THE TEAM IS ON THE BRINK OF GREATNESS.WE ARE NOT THERE YET BUT WE ARE VERY VERY CLOSE.

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