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A pre-minicamp look at Dolphins' offensive line

The Miami Dolphins offensive line is an interesting subject these days because what seemingly was an established unit now has a number of moving parts and issues that speak of possible improvement and, yes, the possibility of regression.

Here's the situation at each position (Coach Sparano, please correct me next time you see me if I get any of this wrong):


The positive: There is a great chance to improve the spot because the Dolphins are separating from Justin Smiley, which means the next player up could be someone more dependable, that will be there every game of every season and not suffer the shoulder problems that plagued Smiley. The Dolphins have plenty of suitable candidates for the job as 2009 part-time starter Nate Garner (pictured) is expected to recover completely from the foot/toe injury that is keeping him out of OTA work. The Dolphins have also moved Donald Thomas to left guard because Richie Incognito is almost exclusively a right guard and a pretty good one at that when he keeps his emotions in check and stays free of dumb penalties. So Thomas adds competition to the spot as does promising rookie John Jerry, for whom the position seems eventually destined if he is the player the Dolphins hope and believe he was when they picked him in the third round of the recent draft. There are good options galore here.

Nategarner The negative: Smiley was a wiley, experienced veteran and a great help to young Jake Long. Long will miss him. The Dolphins may also miss Smiley's ability to pull, which was one of his strengths. Garner's injury is a setback for him. He cannot compete for the job now as he and the Dolphins would like. He is falling behind. Yes, he can catch up once he gets going in training camp, as scheduled. But right now he's missing time. Thomas is a novice on the left side. He didn't play the spot last year as the team was trying to get him fully acclimated at right guard. He seemingly slumped late last season, which is the reason Garner was able to move over from the left side when Smiley's injuries improved and take over the starting job from Thomas.


The positive: Joe Berger (pictured) and Jake Grove are splitting first-team snaps here. This is probably because Berger played and graded out well while Grove nursed an injured ankle/leg last season. It speaks well of Berger that he started the final six games of the season, including the final two when Grove was well enough to start and otherwise regain his job. So regardless of who wins this competition, the Dolphins will have solid depth at the position.

Joeberger The negative: Um, the Dolphins paid a bunch of money to Jake Grove to be their starting center. When any team spends $29.5 million over five years on one player to be the starter and $2.5 million over three years for another player to be a swing C-G backup, the two guys should not be equals. And if the two guys are pretty much equals on the field, something is awry. Either Grove underperformed or Berger over-achieved or some of both. I think some of both is the right answer.


The positive: Incognito is an upgrade here and it's his job to lose. He is the first-team player there now. He will play there almost exclusively because that's what he is: A right guard. Coach Tony Sparano has lately been coy about the possibility of moving Incognito around, but if that somehow ends up happening, something went wrong. That's because Incognito is the strongest, ablest, most experienced right guard on the team right now. He is an upgrade over 2009, in case you missed it when I wrote it the first time. But he has to prove it. Also, the Dolphins have depth at the spot because Thomas or Garner offer starting possibilities, also.

The negative: There is a negative only if Incognito freaks out like he did with the St. Louis Rams and in college -- at both Nebraska and Oregon, where he got pretty much kicked off both squads. This would require the Dolphins to go back to last year's answer to start which would be either Thomas or Garner. And then the upgrade would suddenly disappear unless Thomas or Garner are markedly improved.


The postive: Jake Long (pictured) plays there. 'Nuff said. Man's a beast.Jake long

The negative: Jake Longis very, very good. But has he fully arrived? Probably not. Dolphins are still working some technical things with him to make him better. Scary thought, by the way. Here's another scary thought: If Long gets hurt, the depth is an issue because it is unproven. The Dolphins drafted Andrew Gardner last year and have worked hard in the past year to make him stronger and a better technician. I have no idea if that project has worked or not because I've not seen him in a live practice or game since the 2009 preseason. Lydon Murtha is also a possibility, but again, I have no clue if the guy can play or not.


Vernoncarey The positive: Vernon Carey (pictured) is established and usually solid. He is also proven to be dependable as he's started 75 consecutive games. Gardner has played right tackle before and the game experience he picked up last year is invaluable for a young player.

The negative: Carey seemed to be a little heavy and slower of foot late last year. He was by no means a dominant right tackle so improvement is hoped for, if not required. The Dolphins don't seem to have a lot of competition for this job and that's not necessarily a good thing because the coaches love competition and Carey could probably stand some pushing.


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Yea boy Loretta Lynn. I said shoot. Took ma tractor back to john deer and they say wood be a nother weak.




That's right WIGGA, I'm going up north to the NEW Stadium to watch my Dolphins play in a huge game with Cuban and NJ and I'm gonna have a great time.....while you on the other hand will be adjusting ur rabbit ears wondering how ur life got so-shitty and will never get better...FAT, Asmatic, pot smoking truck driver whose life will NEVER get better. LMAO...what a total LOSER!!

Truck driver LMFAO!!! What a bottom of the barrel job that is!!! What a boring-crappy life that must be!!! Instead of pot may I suggest heroin??? If I had ur life i'd be shooting everyday trying to overdose and end the misery...truckdriver. ROTLLMFAO

Don't worry, NO-BAMA will take care of you...well, maybe not but at least he makes a good speech...LMAO

Pretty solid unit, that OL. They're just placing all the pieces together.

But you're right about Carey, Armando. He WAS slow last year. He needs to step it up. Henne got tons of pressure from that side last year.


welcome tp boston orlando magio .

orlando .6


I have nothing to REPENT!! I'm not a truck driver LMAO!!


I love our O-Line, lots of big guys, lots of depth with Jerry and Incognito can play a couple different spots...Grove will retake his starting job IMO...We have nice depth going into this year...O line is our strength


Dolphins shock Saints in OT Super Bowl thriller! Dansby gets MVP HONORS. Final 33-30!!




Treesome??? LMAO. I thought you could spell ALoco??

Darryl and Salvotre. HOME aka LMFAO can't go to the SS to and let NJ Reply because HOME aka LMFAO has been Banned from there along with other DOLPHIN sites. He's A CREEP and an INFESTER of blog sites !

Home cant go to the SS, but I just did. I left NJ a nice message.

It was not all bad at the SS. But you guys can go look for yourselves. NJ a day or so ago spent a few hours posting about his new puppy(Shitz zhu). The comical part was that others spent a bunch of time posting back and forth on the doggie experience. Everyone here knows that if anyone had posted any krap that here, NJ would have been the first to insult you about it. Go figure.

"any krap like that here"

Can somebody please tell me what NJ is doing right now because it's been like 30 minutes since the last update.

And Mando, can we change the blog title from "Miami Dolphins In Depth" to "The Trials and tribulations of NJ Phin Fan" We all know the whole Dolphins thing is just a cover and what most of us who read this blog REALLY care about is what NJ is doing over at the Sentinel. If only he would get a Twitter account then it would be so easy to know EXACTLY what he is doing right when he does it.

Geez...talk about obsession. His name has been mentioned on this blog far more than ANY Dolphins player. LOL

Me like the title of the show to be "who shot NJ?"

Ronnie Brown. Ricky Williams.
Ronnie Brown. Ricky Williams.
Ronnie Brown. Ricky Williams.
Ronnie Brown. Ricky Williams.
Ronnie Brown. Ricky Williams.
Ronnie Brown. Ricky Williams.

Rickkkkky brooooooowennnn.


Just like me

I'm a bmf with a big cook ur moms like up in dat.

"As the NJ Turns/Days of Our NJ"

Now THAT was funny!!!

Home is mote quuer than mark sanchez

All you stinkin Jet fans, got one thing to say to you. 2-0 last year baby. 2-0. Read it. Remember it. Because history is about to repeat itself.

And, if you really think you are a Super Bowl team with that scrub QB then you ain't watching with your heads. Well, you are Jet fans so I guess it is understandable.

Your running backs, what a joke. The only chance you have of having a decent offense is if your passing game takes off. If you think that is going to happen see above.

Very little talk of Offensive Linemen on this blog. However. We did get some jets fans, some doom and gloom from a resident Home, and one racist poster with internet muscles who shows his true colors and is still some how able to post on here with without his ignorant words being deleted.

Come on MIAMI HERALD/ARMANDO SALGUERO. Get it together. Clean this thing up.


I think the best observation you made was about Smiley's ability to help out Long. However he was the lone dolphin to make the Pro Bowl on his own account w/out any help. I guess its time that he becomes a benifit for somebody else to learn from.

I'm all for youth and attitude. But it seems to me that in the NFL that being long in the tooth at OL is a good thing, and OL that play together for long periods of time are generally better OL. Therefore having earned the right to play together for a long time. See the circle.

We def. need stability on the line.

And yet somehow they let me still post and I know nothing about football, go figure.

Your such a loser. No brains, no wit, juts the ability to maipulate this unsecured site and post under other peoples name. Ohhhh, I forgot your tag line is NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL. but you i guess.

Your so predictable BOBBY

Good Morning Dolfans & Followers of Christ

Happy Sunday to U

Good Ronnie & Ricky Article Up

Hope The Dynamic Pair Of Running Backs Has Their Best Season Yet

Anybody Ever Watch These Two Practice Together
Knows They Do Have a Special Bond
They Look Twins Together
Even Playing Catch On The Sidelines Together While Chatting
When Not Running Drills

Looking For Greatness This Season
Esp From This Offensive Line(where it all starts, in the trenches)

Add Henne The Dolphins Best QB Since Marino
and My Offensive #1 Pro Bowl TD Scoring WR Miami Dolphin Football Dream Come True

"Big John" & "Dirty Richie" Are Excellent Pick Ups For The O-Line

Donald Thomas Is Also Still Developing & Was Injured Most Of Dolphin Camp 2009
Watched Him In Grueling Physical Workouts Pushing The Sled East To West From One Side Of The Field To The Other For An Hour A Day In "Feels Like 100 degrees" Weather On The Field Working With 2 Coaches At His Side

Was Lucky To Have The Opportunity to Talk With
The Strongest Member Of The Miami Dolphins & Mean Mountain Of A Man And Got Close Up Photos Of His Tree Trunk Arms & Autographs(posted on another Dolphin web site seconds after shooting photos)
Asked Donald Thomas,
"When Do U Think U will Be Ready To Start?"
D.Thomas Replied, "Soon, Real Soon"
2 Days Later Thomas was Starting & Pancaking His Opposition
Truly A Beast Of A Lineman
Problem Actually Is D.Thomas Is So Powerful
He Flattens His Opponent Immediately & Is Still
Learning How To Move His Feet Better & Hold His Blocks A Bit Longer

Not Every Play For An O-Linemen Commands Pancaking Your Opponent Esp In Passing Downs
However With A Bit More Coaching & Perhaps
Alternating D.Thomas Who Some Times Runs Out Steam w
This Player Is An Outstanding Addition to The Miami Dolphins O-Line & One Hell Of A find By the Trifecta

***** The Dynasty Be Fins! *****

I am so glad it is Sunday, I put on my flowery dress and go to church and feel like a real woman. Glory be, kris has risen

Another Imposter Posting 8:12 AM

Trolls Dont Bother Home


Home out for the morning
Out To South Florida Ocean On This Beautiful Sunday

Have A Good Day Dolfans
The Original

Your right kris, its booby, he is responsible for everything bad on this site. Write Mando and let him know booby is stealing your name

bobby12 moranic responses to be called out on this blog. It is always the following bit the order may vary.

1. Insult persay and say "you have no "football knowledge". Knowledge being the key word. I think its the biggest word he knows and he is so proud of that.

2. Find clever ways to turn your your name into a girls name. Examole kris=kristina/krissy, justin=justina, joe=joanna. We all used to do ot when we were 10-12 years old.

3. Threaten to beat up poster through the internet (internet muscles).

4. Post under the person that calls him out and have that person say dumb stuff. Once again something I would do when I was 12. I liken it to, "why are u hitting yourself, Why are u hitting yourself" game.

I think that about covers it. I will update as this moranic cave man evoles and learns something new

and one racist poster with internet muscles who shows his true colors and is still some how able to post on here with without his ignorant words being deleted.

Posted by: kris | May 23, 2010 at 07:39 AM

Hey Kris do you mean that it is Bobby?
I already know that and have been saying it for months.


You forgot to add 5 and 6 to your list.

5) Bobby will say you are not a real fan, because you live out of state.

6) He will state" I have an Iphone, Ipad, and live in a beautiful home in So Florida.

7) He will state something to this effect. He will say he wants his thing down your throat or do something to your mom's skull.


That is EXACTLY who i was talking about and as you can see from the immediate childish attack bobby knew I was talking about him as well.

Cien Pie,

Noted. I will add those ass well. At some point bobby will sign-in under his own name claim he was golfing all day and had nothing to do with anything.

Its crazy the coincidences that happen on this blog


Now wait for the attacks....

Bobby's responses show his true character.

"You greaseball or wigga" What a clown.

Kris gotta go , catch up with you later. Same place different name.


These linemen play for a very long time. If you think about it, it's probably the least physical position on a football team. Usually involves pushing each other around.

If we quit moving them around then I think we might have something in the next 2 years.

Are you guys sure that it's Bobby,or maybe someone is using his name to start crap?I never know who is who on here anymore .

I'm impressed.
(Or should I be depressed, too hung over, I'll figure it out later?)
I don't have an Iphone, Ipad, or even A pod.

I usually use to blog from the liberary. Cept I got banned for unwanted advances on the liberarian.

I do have a dog, but he ain't no ShitZu. He's a Pit Bull. Damn thing chewed his doggy door into a big hole all the way down the side of the trailer.

I still love him though, it's OK. Got great deal on a coleman tent at the salvation army. It's got a divider inside it. I get the big side.

Gotta go, time to return some beer cans and check some dumpsters.

LMFAO @ Krissy!!! God, how long have u been on this blog and ur still clueless??? Let me take u by ur hand and guide u dumbass....Armando writes the blog, ALoco OWNS the blog...ALoco AKA cle cli, mureangelo, Justin, raton, away, pie, etc etc etc....While he is telling Home he loves him he uses the name Away to tell him he hates him....You just don't get it do you??? I call him a greaseball to elicit a response from him and he comes back with Justin or CUbano or some made up Spanish name...LMFAO. Ur like the people who hate Howard Stern, "You just don't get it". Grow up and buy a sense of humor and figure it out...Christ, I have better things to do then get up early on a SUNDAY and screw with you, Donkey...

Ah Ha!


It's been Aloco all along!

Veerday Interesting(Col. Klink)!

Kris I assure you that i am not aloco. Bobby is using misdirection, that is all.

STFU-Cream Pie!

You're knowledgebly a jet fan!


Why I tink sumone talking to self?

Cream pie, Murcelago, Krissy spent an hour talking to ALoco and he says "he's intelligent"??? ROTFL LMAO!!! That's beautiful genius, add Justin in there and it was ALoco and Krissy. LOL

Wow bobby...right on cue.

pretend its not u. and call me krissy.

but its somebody else right?

ur so predictable ur stuiped


Everybody is out to get bobby.



At this point you probably KNOW why people dislike most of your posts. (You just haven't admitted it to yourself yet.)

Just to review.... the idea up here is to discuss all things that have to do with the Dolphins. Repeating the same off-topic stuff over and over again is kind of like saying to everyone that you think we're too dumb to know when someone's trying to Brainwash us. Its not the best way to make friends.

For the record no one hates YOU. We dislike the on-line Character that you portray and the way that character behaves. If you want to change our feelings then please consider some adjustments to the way he interacts with the rest of us.

Here are some Ideas that might the help all of us return this blog to the way it was before you got here.
(...again, we ask this of you with modest amounts of patients and tolerance.)


- Stay mostly on topic

- Reinforce your Dolphins points with FACTS rather than
...s m u g n e s s
...toward people who disagree.

- STOP talking (and thinking) in third person

- Lose the pseudo Haiku act

- DON'T embed environmental issues in the majority of your posts.

...and STOP pretending to have some special relationship with the Herald's IT department.


This is NOT your personal Blog-Server.

If you've got something you want to say about the Dolphins then that's great.

But the rest of this crap (from you and your 'fake' imposters) needs to disappear before everyone else does.

U are stupid Krissy, sorry to say...all the time You have spent here and ur STILL talking to ALoco as posing as 3 different names at the same time!!! LMFAO. Stupid as stupid gets!!! Anyway, I can care less what a mental midget such as you thinks, u wanna blame it on me, be my guest...ur hearburn, not mine!!! Dumbass!!! ALoco, please don't stop, this kid is so Fnstupid he deserves ALL ur gonna give him...duhhhhhh Krissy


Bobby the name is cien pie. It is Spanish for centipede. I know you dislike Spanish names/people. Learn Spanish you hater. I am not aloco. ALoco would never want to hurt you as much as I would like to.

Unlike The Gulf of Mexico & Atlantic Ocean Around The Cuba, SE USA and soon Europe

The Dolphins O-Line Will Be Just Fine

Posted by: Home | May 22, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Cheer up man, the ocean will recover eventually....

Bobby I will got to your level.

YOU are an A hole if you think aloco is all of these characters. If aloco is me and others, Then you are NJ, plain and simple. Remember when NJ would go around crying that everyone who bothered him was cuban menace. He is no different.

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