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Ireland wanted it, he gets Salguero's 53-man roster

On Tuesday when I approached Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland about the Dez Bryant matter, we had a good exchange and he ended it with this question:

"Do you have your 53 yet?"

My 53?

Even I don't care about my 53. I care about Jeff Ireland's 53, and I would bet that's what you (my readers) care about, too.

But since Jeff didn't offer to share with me his 53 until the Dolphins actually cut down to that number by Saturday, it got me to thinking. Why not give you guys my 53 after all?

So, just for kicks, here it is:

OFFENSE

Quarterbacks (3)

Chad Henne, Chad Pennington, Tyler Thigpen.

My thinking: It is hard to cut a second-round pick, in this case Pat White. But he simply has not proven he's an NFL caliber player and it is better to cut losses now than continue to nurture a player who remains undersized and seemingly overmatched. No matter how much he learns the offense or defenses or settles down, he will still be a 5-11 or 6-foot QB in a 6-3 QB world. He will still have an inaccurate arm. He will never be 225 pounds and be able to absorb the hits in or out of the pocket.

Running Backs (5)

Ronnie Brown, Ricky Williams, Patrick Cobbs, Lousaka Polite, Lex Hilliard.

My thinking: I keep Hilliard because he is a core special teams player and because Brown (injury history) and Williams (age and unpredictability) cannot be counted as certainties to play all 16 games. Cobbs sticks because he adds quickness to the offense when he's in there and he is a fine special teams player.

Wide Receivers (5)

Brandon Marshall, Brian Hartline, Davone Bess, Patrick Turner, Marlon Moore.

My thinking: Neither Turner nor Moore should buy houses locally. Not yet. If they do make the team, they will then have to survive the next round of concern, which is have they beaten out the sixth receivers around all the other teams that are now available? I would not feel secure about anything if I were them. And remember, there will be vets on the market in the second week that were cut simply because having them on the roster the first week would have guaranteed their entire season's salaries. Those vets will be signed by teams starting Sept. 13 and 14. Finally, Roberto Wallace is a tough guy to cut. He has that prototype body. He has tons of upside. If he doesn't indeed make it, he screams practice squad to me.

Tight ends (2)

Anthony Fasano, David Martin.

My thinking: Fasano and Martin, who is finally in good shape, have nailed down their spots. I cut John Nalbone, although he probably makes it for the actual Dolphins roster. The team likes him despite his inconsistent training camp and preseason. I went this direction because I fear injuries on the offensive line so I'm keeping an extra OLineman. I also believe the Dolphins can scour the waiver wire for tight ends better than John Nalbone.

Offensive linemen (9)

Jake Long, John Jerry, Vernon Carey, Richie Incognito, Jake Grove, Joe Berger, Donald Thomas, Lydon Murtha, Andrew Gardner.

My thinking: Make no mistake the Nate Garner injury is a definite painful setback. It means the loss of a versatile player that can start with little drop-off from anyone else. The final spots here come down to Donald Thomas vs. Cory Procter and I went with the younger guy, although Procter has at times been better than Thomas this preseason.  I also went with Gardner ahead of Lydon Murtha as the backup tackle. Despite Gardner not having a great training camp, there is still something there about that kid I like. Doesn't mean the Dolphins feel the same way. Also, regardless of whether Murtha or Gardner make the team, the Dolphins will be looking to upgrade off the waiver wire so they should buy a house locally just yet.

DEFENSE:

Defensive Linemen (7)

Kendall Langford, Randy Starks, Jared Odrick, Charles Grant, Paul Soliai, Tony McDaniel, Marques Douglas.

My thinking: Grant and Douglas are renters, no question about that. They probably won't be on the team next year. But they have played well enough to make it for now. I could not put Montavious Stanley on there as well because we don't want three renters on the defensive line. Do not be surprised if the Dolphins put one or two young, hungry, up-and-coming defensive linemen on their practice squad with the hopes of developing them for later this season and next season. And, yes, I know I cut Lionel Dotson. What can I say? Three training camps and he's still a third-teamer? Got to move on.

Linebackers (9)

Cameron Wake, Karlos Dansby, Koa Misi, Ikaika Alama-Francis, Channing Crowder, Tim Dobbins, Micah Johnson, Charlie Anderson, Erik Walden.

My thinking: Right off the top, Austin Spitler missed two weeks of camp with a stomach virus and had a tough time catching up. He does deserve a practice squad spot. Chris McCoy also deserves a practice squad shot. But has either won a roster spot? Not that I've noticed. Tim Dobbins makes it because he's experienced, a good special teams guy and a good man to have in the locker room. Erik Walden, to me, has value on special teams so he makes my team. Micah Johnson is border line, I will grant you. Not fast, much to learn, not polished. But I love that he hits people. He needs to get more downhill, as coach Tony Sparano said, so his tackles come in the hole or the line of scrimmage. But he has potential, in my opinion. This kid will play in the NFL. I say the Dolphins should keep Folsom because, in part, he's OK on special teams but more importantly, because of the uncertain nature of Channing Crowder's injury status -- which increasingly is becoming a yearly issue with him. [UPDATE: My apologizies to Charlie Anderson. Overlooked him earlier. He's on there now. J.D. you're out. But in the real world it will likely come down to Folsom vs. Johnson.]

Defensive Backs (10)

Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, Benny Sapp, Nolan Carrolll, Will Allen, Jason Allen, Tyrone Culver, Chris Clemons, Yeremiah Bell, Reshad Jones.

My thinking: Yes, that's a lot of defensive backs but the injury to Will Allen forced this in my view of things. Another mitigating factor for keeping so many is that Carroll should win the kick return job, while Culver and Jason Allen are core special teams players -- meaning they play on all the special teams. Benny Sapp is the early-season insurance as the nickel corner so he makes it. Reshad Jones is going to be a good player and that hope is reason enough not to cut him and expose him to another team plucking him or signing him to their practice squad.

Specialists (3)

P Brandon Field, K Dan Carpenter, LS John Denney.

My thinking: Each of these guys signed contract extensions in the offseason and none have any real competition in camp. Even I can figure this one out.

[BLOG NOTE: The Dolphins and Cowboys finish up their preseason tonight with an 8 p.m. (EST) game. So, yes, there will be a live blog right here then. Join me for it during the game. Right here.]

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LMAO @ DC Dolfan....

Hopefully we can put some points early with the 1st team tonight and get those starters out of there early, i really dont want to see them extended thru the 1st qtr in this game. Outcome doesnt matter so dallas can win this one 62-14, as long as those 14 pts come from our staring offense.


PS---Special teams will still suck tonight, that much is very predictable

beerphin, no team in the league will give up a 2nd rounder for Pennington. The most you'll get is a 4th. The only guy who would give up a 2nd rounder for Pennington is not in the NFL anymore, he's the head coach of the Pittsburgh Panthers. Oh wait...On second thought, he would want Pat White instead.

greg z IS A GREAT GUY ,he let us donkeys in to the news about fins not like armando he just come to visit .


henne
thigpen
pat white


trade my grand papa chad penne .

Marc,

What, do I amuse you? Am I a clown?

LOL, GoodFellas for all you youngsters out there.

Pennington is a very underrated QB, but there's 2 things that hurts his trading value big time.

1) Arm strength
2) Shoulder history

DC Dolfan, i think henne will be fine. im hoping we keep just 2 QB's; henne and tyler. if one goes down we still got a good young QB. they both have live arms!

Pennington's not going anywhere this year---i.e. why they signed him to an extension to begin with)Besides no team will barter anything but a high late rounder for him 4th, or 5th rounder if lucky enough, and we wouldnt get really any complimentary pickup such as a #2 proven reciever for him...Nope, Pennies here for the year but nice to think things out loud every now and then!!!

Chad Penne will outperform Chad Henne tonight, causing a stir in South Florida Media calling for Penne to Start against the Bills.

the worst thing you can repeat from an actor's quote and is very old ;;;;;;

(( are you talking to me ,are you talking to me )) robert de nero .it's over used already .

Jamillionaire,

Sparano said the 1st-stringers will play until he's HAPPY! So, that could mean a few snaps or, in the defense's case, the entire game (just kidding, I hope).

I would say they've got their 53-man roster down already, might be one or two guys he still needs to see to determine who makes the practice squad and who's packing.

Seriously though, I've been talking to my friends who are Cowboys fans, and they said their offensive line has been ridiculously horrible. So, if we don't collect some sacks, pressures, etc. tonight on that bunch, we're gonna have a very long season.

How nice.

I DVR'ed the wets and redskins today.

Early 3rd quarter Beck throws a short swing/screen to JT's side.

After recovering from up field over aggressiveness Taylor got a blindside road grading from one of the 320 pounders.

Even though he was able to get up under his own power, I was still feeling warm and fuzzy all over :)

PS: Is it just me, or does Sanchez look like he's already reached his full potential.

Ei Guevon...............do you see the future ? tell me ..is tim tebow's girl friend has a breast implants ?


Chad Penne will outperform Chad Henne tonight, causing a stir in South Florida Media calling for Penne to Start against the Bills.

Posted by: El Guevon | September 02, 2010 at 04:10 PM

That might be true IF only we didnt know what we were getting with Penny at the helm, FORTUNATELY most sane Dolfans who have watched him in 2008, and the beginning of last year do, So i highly doubt that very much!!!

odinseye, i live up north now too but always go down for 2 weeks with my son for camp. we get to watch practices,talk to players and even met bill parcells(got a picture with him and my son age 16). we met channing while he was alone fishing;alot of good memories. we are going to the bills game 9/12 in buffalo. its 2 hrs. away from us.

Yes,odinseye...........sanchez looks great as a fashion guy .after all he already made it w/42 million guarantee .

henne,,,,,,,,not so much.....600 thousand .

jALoco,

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
I'm a make you an offer you can't refuse.
Say hello to my little friend.
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

You like apples? How you like DEM apples?

I hope Henne doesn't play at all tonight. What is there to gain? So the first team goes down and scores a td. Big deal. Hopefully the big boys have moved on to prepping for the Bills. There are few spots available, and maybe a few guys that can "put something good on tape" for perhaps another team. But as far as getting a a gauge of our fist team, forget it.

this is another quote from a movie i am tired to hear (( you can't handle the truth ))......

the other one i am sick of ....(( i'm making him an offer he can't refuse ))


last one from tuna i CAN'T HEAR ANY MORE (( if they can't bite as pupps .....lol ) i can't even finishing writing it ..........

Aloco, those wind bags are real.

i sure hope guys like charles grant, marques douglas, micah johnson,ryan baker, marlon moore, roberto wallace make the team! even nate ness who looks good. has clemons made a tackle yet in 3 games?

I just started watching the vikes and seattle.

I was amazed. After all these years, Farve just doesn't get it.

First play of the game he blasts a missle 25 yards to Percy Harvin. No arch, no touch, all ZIP. A dart, straight down the line.

Farve sucks, he obviously throws the ball too hard.

4TH preseason game = The Scrub Finale

ALoco What about "It looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue"?

ODin,

I just hope he continues to look that bad come week 2, thats the only time i'll care. One guy that wont look bad is AP. And watch out for the sleeper Cammirillo---Revenge factor maybe????

GregZ,

I like what I've seen from Micah Johnson, for the pre-season games anyways.

I might of missed it, but I haven't notice you post anything on him.

Did you get a good look at him in camp?

What did you think?

that looks right to me mando except I doubt Gardner and Murtha both make it. I think we probably sign a tackle of waivers

pats vs giants tonight on nfl .

Darryl and ALoco:

I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

Nobody puts Baby in a corner!

Hasta la vista, baby!

I can do this for days fellas.

odinseye, micah johnson came to camp late as he was cut by the giants so i didnt get to watch him that long. i really like guys who make tackles and he tackles well;a nice ILB who we need. i hated loudmouths like joey porter who couldnt tackle. i like dobbins alot too. we look real good up the middle.

Sully, remember when I said I would kill you last?

I lied.

DC Dolfan...go get yer phukin' shine box!

are you in jail DC Dolfan ?

Ah Dirty Dancing....Great movie?????

in camp, the defense always looked better than the offense. we had trouble running the ball and receivers were usually bypassed for another checkdown which drove us crazy. we had to throw 500 checkdowns. our QB's didnt seem to go thru their progrssions and always took the easy 2 yd. pass. kinda the way we look now. our real weakness on D will be the secondary, we got to jam those wideouts. be more physical.

Mark in Toronto, just saw that one the other day.

Darryl, only if you consider being married being in jail!

darryl, dirty dancing is a classic , good choice ...simple movie .

Just got back from Denville,NJ! not 1 person step to me and i was in full dolphin gear! that mad for a great trip

Just got back from Denville,NJ! not 1 person step to me and i was in full dolphin gear! that made for a great trip

DC, that movie was the king of the one liners

Try to keep it down in here.

My friend is dead tired.

Where's Sully?

I had to drop him off.

Here, let off some steam.

the kind of movies you guys watch speak volume of your education .

you must be a dorp outs.....DC Dolfan and Mark

Drop outs

Can you tell me what this is all about?
Yeah, a guy I've known for years wants me dead.
That's understandable, I've only known you five minutes and I want you dead too!

This Green Beret is gonna kick your big *ss.
I eat Green Beret's for breakfast. And right now, I've very hungry.
I can't believe this macho bullsh*t.

hahaha, great stuff DC

and ALoco, I'm a CPA so if that's uneducated ...

1 mile oil sheen (so far)from HAARP oil rig explosion in the Gulf will have not hamper the srart of the Dallas vs Miami football game

I'll have you know ALoco, Mark is a graduate of McGill University, and I graduated from THE University of Virginia. So, far from dropouts.

DC.....ALL YOU LINES ARE FRESH AND GOOD .

mark......CPA,,,,,,you pass

Like to see Nolan Carrol shine tonight on KR & STs

DC, do you CPA ?

DC , do you have CPA?

Should be some encouragement for Dolfans as Miami attempts to beat up on the Dallas Cowboys 3rd stringers

lol

No, I'm an APC (automatic p*ssy catcher).

I don't think ANYONE cares about your 53, Mando. When do we get some real news reported on this blog? Next season?

-- Bebo

UM is having a warm up game
So they will be ready to have the TAR beat out of them next week when they face Ohio State

Despite what the "Hellen Keller of Miami Dolphins Insight", Omar kool aid Kelly says UM will suck again this year and their starting QB with 17 INTs is downright horrible

Please disregard all opinions from this jaded Jamaican reporter on American football as he is still learning the rules

Aloco,

Education?

What dis says bout my education?

Ben: Listen to me. What happened between Mrs. Robinson and me was nothing. It didn't mean anything. We might just as well have been shaking hands.

Mr. Robinson: Shaking hands? Well, that's not saying much for my wife, is it?

????


anybody have a link for tonight's game?

what up i finally found a blog for my phins lol i would trade Thigpen to arizona for some picks

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