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The reasons Chad Henne must remain at QB

You folks really must stop e-mailing me. Post your comments below in the comments section instead because it's getting crazy and I cannot possibly reply to everyone, although I would love to do so. Normally, I just reply to the folks that call me a fat, moron, frick because, dang it, I'm not a frick so I feel the need to defend myself.

Anyway, most of your e-mails Monday were about one of two topics:

1. Fire everybody.

2. Bench Chad Henne.

I can assure you the Dolphins are not about to fire everybody. This post will attempt to explain why the Dolphins should not bench Henne.

I watched the 26-10 loss to Baltimore and I'm not about to do a coach Tony Sparano and give you an "all is well, there's nothing to worry about," speech. As this Miami Herald story points out, Henne threw 5 TDs and 4 interceptions the first four games and 3 TDs and 6 interceptions the past four games.

Bottom line is the Dolphins were beaten pretty soundly at Baltimore and there is a pattern they follow in that they cannot beat very good teams. So all is not well.

But in watching Henne's worst game of the season, it becomes evident there are glances that you must admit are present before you summarily dismiss him as your quarterback.

Did you notice that Henne completed 9 of his first 10 passes against the big, bad Baltimore defense? That is correct, he was 9 of 10 to start the game.

Nobody noticed that because the one incompletion was an interception by Baltimore's Ladarius Webb. And, true enough, an interception does overshadow nine other completions if those completions are TD passes. But this interception was more the wide receiver's fault than Henne's.

Fact is Brian Hartline stumbled and was on his knees when the ball came to him on the sideline. Webb simply stood where Hartline was down and caught the pass. If Hartline had been on his feet that pass is either an incompletion or a completion. Not an interception.

There were two other picks Henne threw. He had one that led Brandon Marshall a hair too far and the Miami receiver didn't necessarily go above and beyond to stretch for the catch because Ray Lewis had Marshall's ribs in the cross hairs. The tipped pass went directly to Ed Reed.

Interception No. 3 was Henne's biggest mistake, that in the fourth quarter when he threw inaccurately and the defensive back on Davone Bess simply caught the errant pass. I put that one on Henne. But Bess had zero separation. And Bess didn't exactly dig hard back toward the pass. Fact is the DB made a stronger break toward the ball and came away with it. Bess does better work, that interception also becomes an incompletion.

The point I'm making is Henne didn't exactly get a ton of support. And I didn't even mention the Anthony Fasano drop. The Brandon Marshall drop. The Ronnie Brown drop.

I do have to mention the terrible pass to a wide open Fasano in the end zone near the end of the first half. That was, in my humble, Henne's worst pass of the day and it cost Miami four points or the difference between a touchdown and the field goal the team kicked.

So did all that spell out a 26-10 loss? No.

The Ravens did not score after Webb's interception. They got a field goal after the second interception. And the final pick came with 42 seconds to play and Baltimore merely took a knee to end the game after that turnover.

So Henne's terrible day cost the Dolphins a touchdown -- the field goal plus the difference between what might have been a TD and FG to end the half.

The Dolphins lost this game by 16 points, folks. It wasn't all on the QB.

Now, maybe you think benching Henne is still the move because, well, you just want to stir things up. Or maybe it's because you don't like Henne's robotic approach to playing. Or maybe you just hate Michigan.

I would say the Dolphins must stay with Henne because if nothing else happens this year, they must, must, must, find out if he is the future or not. The Dolphins aren't a playoff team right now. They are not playing playoff-caliber football.

But if they finish the 2010 season with a conviction one way or the other about Chad Henne, at least the season was not in vain. If, on the other hand, the team replaces Henne with Chad Pennington and makes a playoff run only to find out that still isn't the answer, we're back to 2008 and we've wasted two seasons.

Coach Tony Sparano's contract runs out after 2011. He cannot afford to find himself back at the end of 2008 while the calendar says its 2011 and his contract says it expires in 2011. We need to know if Henne is the future at quarterback or not.

That means you might have to endure some growing pains and setbacks. But to back-track now to Chad Pennington in search of some short-term fix is taking one step forward but finding yourself two steps back. 

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Craig, I think it's because he has a few int's on the roll out this season. Like everything else Dan Henning, that worked last season, not so much this season.

salguero you are a fat moron

Joe,

I would be careful building either Tampa or KC up too much. If I'm not mistaken they only have one more win than us and I don't think anyone would argue that our schedule has been a lot harder. Quite honestly I don't think we're that bad a team. New Orleans went from going 8-8 to winning the Superbowl the following year. We'e probably a 9-7 or an 8-8 team. Another year of maturity, a pass catching tight end and an established running game and we're right there with some of the best teams in the league. Laughing if you want guys but I am NOT convinced the Jets are that much beeter than us and they are sitting there at 6-2.

AL, All I'm saying is that all you have to do is create a business e-mail and a fan/blog e-mail? This Blog pretty much came up with FIST PUMP. He wrote a column around the phrase last a few days ago.

He has written about how much he likes "the Number of hits" his blog gets..."the number of hits hits"

It's kinda like going to the beach and bitching about the sand?

Martin @1:37PM

Go Phins!

My dead grandfather could complete 9 out of 10 3 yard passes.

Bench Henne

Al, I wouldn't short oil? There is going to be an explosion of high Commodites due to the Fed Printing $ and the coming inflation?

Go Phins!

Stats...Stats...Stats are for losing teams. Thats why you talk about stats for Henne, etc...I long for the day when we dont have to talk about stats because we are winning. Get a clue...Your being nice because its your job and you dont want to be locked out...

@Bloggers,

Read Martin @1:37PM I would love your opinion?

Go Phins!

My final word is that I am not ready to give up on a 25 year old QB with prototypical size and arm strength. There are teams in this league that would kill to have this guy on their team. The ignorance of some people on this site was eveident yesterday when I read one guy on here who said if Henne was cut tomorrow nobody would pick him up.....that's the mentality of some of the people on this site!

Can anyone answer this question for me please... "Does Sparano have the power/authority to over-rule or change the playcalling coming down from Henning"? I would think Tony has a better feeling of who's hot during a game, and the feel for what is happeneing on a drive because he is on the field with his players and not up in the geriactric park retirement booth with Henning. I want to know if Tony is as responsible for "questionable" playcalls at times during games..or is it all henning...

Hey T.S.?

Has your dead Grandfather met Dan Henning in the after life?

Go Phins!

pennington = 2008 runner up nfl mvp to p manning nfl mvp.

henne = bum.

Joe Schmoe, Please don't compare the chiefs and bucs to the dolphins. Look at their schedules and you will see exactly why they are where they are. It's just like the Dolphins in Pennys first season. And I'll bet you anything when their schedules get tougher their record will suffer. How is it that no one understands this.

2 watt = ignorant

All of this talk is meaningless!
When there aren't any butts in the seats because the fans are tired of watching this team struggle with its "growing pain, then ownership WILL make some changes! That's how the fans can voice their displeasure of management of this team.

Not Pennington. Thigpen. A better QB than Henne unless I am wearing Ray Lucas blinders again.

I hear what you're saying, Mando, but disagree. He's just the type to kill a team: Good enough to make you think the potential will become reality but bad enough that it never will. This team, all Henne supporters, and you are buying the potential. It's like buying a house because of how it might look with some dressing up only to find, during renovations, that all the framework is termite-ridden.

I will add this caveat: If they are to stick with Henne through the season, it is unlikely that we will ever see if he'll develop because what made him decent at Michigan is on lock down in Miami. So: If Henning is calling the plays, we will never know what Henne might be able to do. Maybe I'm wrong - maybe Henne has it and it's just Henning. I think it's both though.

cowkilla,

I think Tony answered that himself when he said they probably should have taken Ronnie out DURING the first drive, when he was the hot hand.

Craig, I know our schedule is tougher but records are what they are. I actually think we're a few players away. KO/PR specialist, TE & RB with speed & at least 1 cover safety with ball instincts. Being a few pcs. away is not an excuse to NOT be win winnable games. We should have beaten Pitt, NYJ & NE. Aside from special teams in that game we moved the ball all game.

This comes down to coaching for me, plain & simple. They are not putting these guys in position to win games. Infact, they are putting them in positions to win games. We are ALWAYS in last second games. This should NOT be our mentality. We aren't that team. We have to be aggressive from the outset. Not cling to hope we can steal a game late.

Thats NOT what good teams do. This isn't the players, it's the coaches. Sparano, from Parcells, adopted this mentality. We're tough? BS. Other teams are tougher than we are, and we lost to them. Watch what the Titans do to us.

Teams won this way in the 80's & Baltimore in 2000. This Mngt & coaching staff haven't evolved with the rest of the NFL. Winning this way should be a last resort, not a preferred weekly choice. Until this mentality changes, this team will never realize it's potential.

Craig M- I agree that nobody knows what Henne is going to be. Of the quartebacks you mentioned, yes they had rough patches, and some critics. But there are also dozens that just couldn't get it done. Your right I don't know which category Henne will eventually fall into. My point is that from what I see, and this again is why we debate. From what I see from Henne, is a quarterback that right now just isn't that good. Does he make some great throws? Yes, Is he good when the plays are scripted? Yes Will he be the quarterback of this team for the rest of this year? Barring injury yes. But that doesn't take away from the fact that Henne has a lot of deficiencies, and he has to improve for this team to take that next step. I don't see it. That doesn't mean it's not there, he might even have a couple of realy good games in the next weeks. But I want to see something that changes my mind over the last 8

Cow,

I think as evidenced by the minimal use of the Wildcat since it killed the drive against the Pats. The answer is I don't think Sparano does as much during the games but more during the gameplan? I do notice Sparano doing a lot of eye rolling after some of the negative plays?

I would actually like to see the reporters dig more as to the current state of the relationships between the staff. To offer up more insight in regards to the internal workings. How does the team off the record feel about the play calling, Henne etc.?

Go Phins!

Joe, TB, KC?? WTF??!?!?!

TB is 21st in offense and 24th in defense. Yes, they did have a superlative draft but man, they are not better than us? Why, because they won one more game this year against inferior competition?

KC??? They are a superlative run team but they are also 30th in the pass game. Their defense is about par to ours but they also have 2 top 10 nfl picks playing in that front 7. They invested heavily there. If we had Matt Cassel playing qb, this whole blog would get shut down due to high traffic spewing venom. My best friend is a Chiefs die hard and not a week passes where he doesn't cuss out Cassel.

Martin,

I can just see the fallout now...

Mandos next blog,

Off the record, Henne, Marshall and Ronnie stated they think the playcalling sucks, LOL.

"I think Tony answered that himself when he said they probably should have taken Ronnie out DURING the first drive, when he was the hot hand.

Posted by: Utdolfan"

Do we need to read or hear anything else that proves how clueless this coaching staff really is? Ineptitude & ignorance comes to mind reading that.

MARTIN, are you trying to say armando doesn't have idea for the blog ?

i thought he was trying to make people happy by adopting the fist pump thing from them .

I'm pretty sure Tony could "VETO" the play-calling, but, there's only 45 secs between plays, and that would be micro-managing the O-coordinator and wearing 2 hats...

Not saying it couldn't be done, but, just saying it would make his job a lot more difficult

He's gotta keep track of 50 players snap counts and all

Ut and Schmoe,

Have we considered that Henning was Parcell's choice? Perhaps with him out of the way Fist Pumper will bring in someone new? It still doesn't explain the take out Ronnie comment or the lack of balls on 4th and short.

Go Phins!

Joe,

I agree with an awful lot of what you have to say. A lot of good points. The only thing I would add is I think the players are still trying to win in this league. I know that sounds ridiculous but I get the feeeling that they are playing tight and trying not to make a mistake. They don't dominate teams (and I agree) a lot of that is the coaching but we're still learning how to not beat ourselves. there have been MANY plays this year that could have made victories easier but we're not doing it on a consistent basis. However, I am encouraged by the fact the we are in EVERY game right until the end.

Mark, I was lambasted yesterday on here for calling Cassel, an AT BEST, average NFL QB. If they had a decent QB, they'd be better statistically. But again, stats are for losers. It's about W's. I guess my frustration is more that we HAVE talent, and we should be better. I just see players not being the ones winning & losing these games. It's coming from the sidelines which infuriates me. Let the players decide it on the field. Don't mess it up with reidiculous calls & decisions.

I believe some of you folks don't watch the games. Henne is the least of the Phins problems, he is a young QB with less than 2 years experience and plays that way some times.

Sorry tackling is the biggest issue and that's not Hennes job. The dropped passes are drive killers! Ask your self this question, what is worse our passing game or our running game? Answer; running game, and that's not Henne's fault. Who decides that we need 5 FG's a game, and that TD's are not that important...that's not Henne. Is Henne making all the special teams blunders, no!

Fire the coach and bench the QB is the mantra of a football simpleton. Fix the problems I've listed above and the Phins are a playoff caliber team. And don't expect Henne to be a Marino or Manning, those QB's don't materialize everyday!

I agree with what DyingBreed said a couple pages back, the defense is looking bad because of the offense. If you knew the other team only needed 10 points to beat you, then your back is up against the wall from the start.

In 2008 we dominated time of possession. This keeps the other teams offense off the field and minimizes their chances for big plays. It also keeps them better rested. That is the physical aspect of why the defense is suffereing from the offense.

The offense is also hurting the mental aspect of the defense. You hold a team to a field goal, and your offense goes out and gets a 3 and out and puts you right back out there. My bet is, our defense has lost faith in the offense and without knowing it, their play starts slipping because they no longer believe.

This comes down to leadership. Who are your leaders? An offenesive lineman and a LB that is brand new to your team. Where is the QB? He has to be the heart of the team, but Henne has no heart, he is gutless.

Martin, I am clearly on record as saying the problem is Sparano AND Henning. Tony is not an NFL Coach. Sparano wants to play this close game style treating his players like they have diapers on. You learn by your mistakes. Let them make then, don't make them for them. Put the games in their hands, not the coaches. Let them LEARN, time to take the training wheels off.

Henning calls the game to suit Tony. Replacing Henning and not Sparano is useless. The vision for the offense is Tony's. You have to change them both, thats the only way this team gets to the next level.

Al,
I don't think he gave you regulars enough credit at all. I also think that complaining about having a full e-mail box is "biting the hand that feeds you"? All he has to do is set up a different box for business, family/friends, fans/bloggers. I know its a hassle but I run a business too.To complain about it seems rather unappreciative? There are plenty of Blogs and sites that write well and have zero participation. I also think that a lot of people on here really know their stuff.

I'm not losing sleep over it but he gets props at his employer for all these "hits" as refers to us as.

Go Phins!

Rustyj, good post at 2:19pm.

Phinfrock, we can't keep the other teams offence of the field this year (unlike 2008) because we don't have an effective running game. I think it's deplorable that we don't have a single 100 yard game this year from any of our backs. Where's the outcry on that? We have all that money invested in the offensive line and can't get the job done. I have NO idea why Ronnie wasn't used more on Sunday after being VERY effective on the opening drive. I hope Armando takes the coaches to task on this when he talks to them this week. this was supposed to be the strength of our team this year and we aren't getting it done.

Hey Mando I watch every Dolphin game in depth you what I think the problem is they need to take the diapers off Henne an let him become an elite QB or not but the Dolphin coaching staff give him one play at the an he got to run that one play he doesn't even call audibles at the line an that's sad. An what was the reason why you bring Marshall over an give him all that money an open up that offense they need to get out that 1979 Henning run first style because it's hurting this team. An our defense why don't any of out cornerbacks jump any routes if the interception doesn't come straight to them they not going to go an get there need to be some changes this offseason........

On a side not...Marhsall pulled a Ted Ginn on that slant that caused the INT. Was it placed perfectly? NO. Was it an easy catch to make none the less? Yes. It was right in front of him and he had time to duck Lewis if he had to. We didn't trade for you to act like Ginn. Earn your paycheck!

Phinfrock,

I wrote about that a while back. Lack of on-field in the locker room leadership. I counted down as to who and why certain players are not and will not be leaders. I won't do that here.

The leadership will come from consitantly winning. Certain players will rise to the top based on their ability to "make game changing plays" on a regular basis. Talk is cheap in the NFL.

Go Phins!

You're all wrong. The problem with the Miami Dolphins offense is that they don't do enough screens. I want more bubble screens. I want more reverses to Hartline. If the game plan had 20-30 screens and reverses, we'd be 8-0, 7-1!

Think of me like Christopher Walken on SNL: "sounds good, but I need more cowbell!"

Coach Sparano and Henning, LOAD UP THE SCREENS AND THE REVERSES, they've worked wonders so far!

Joe,

I don't agree with you on that pass to Marshall. It was high and it should have been on the numbers. That one was on Henne. I heard Dierdorf say that he didn't think Marshall gave it full effort but Dierdorf's an idiot and he's had it in for the Dolphins for a long time. Henne still needs to work on his accuracy as show but his awful touch pass to Fassano in the end zone.

Joe, our stats and record say exactly what we are - a middle of the road team in every facet whatsoever. Does this upset me? Not in the least. Why? Because last year, we were excellent in some areas (run game) but poor in others (defense, pass game). To me, this is progress. Add to that we have several young players who will get better and soon enough, we will have our time. Most of this team is in their 3rd season or less. They haven't even come close to hitting their peak yet. Could we have been further along with some shrewder play calling and personnel management? Absolutely. however, the coaches have come up with some things here that these bloggers would never have thought of. In addition, the personnel management have mitigated some of the more questionable moves with some acquisitions that people would have never thought of.

Does this mean that I am not frustrated on Sundays? Of course not - I feel the pain as much as anyone. The Dolphins dictate my mood for an entire week almost singlehandedly.

But I calm down when I see the big picture because this team will get better both through internal growth, the team's committment to young talent, and co -ordinator changes. It's not like the Wannstedt regime where you knew they just were not going to add any more talent in the draft. And next year will be awesome for sure because with the return of Odrick - it will be like having 2 first round picks this year.

It worked last year with the defense and I have no doubt they will address the offensive philosophy this offseason.

Keep your heads up, there are better days ahead.

@ Rusty,

Amen!

@ Armando,

Amen!

Craig M

I think you have oversimplified the QB roll in running an offense. They do not simply send in to run "32 Dive" and you go to the line and run it. They have a set of plays that usually involves three options, 2 runs and a pass or 2 passes and a run. In addition, there are automatic reads. If the QB comes to the line and sees the defense doing certain things, then all bets are off from what was called in the huddle and he audibles this read that the defense in vulnerable to.

If it were as simple as play calling, then you would not need a Peyton Manning, you just need a great Offensive Coordinator. Do you think Manning just takes a play that is sent in and runs it? Is all that finger pointing and running around yelling things just for looks? He is reading the D and getting his team into what he believes is the best option for success. This is what a good QB does and anyone that plays QB in the NFL should be capable of this. Not necessarily to Manning level, he is exceptional, but to some level. This is a criteria for judging and avg to good to great QB.

Henne either chooses not to read the D or can't read the D and this handicaps the offense and the play calling. We can't run because despite Henne's big arm that everyone is so excited about, he does not throw the ball downfield. Therefore, you see 8 in the box and Safties making tackles at or behind the line of scrimmage.

When Pennington was in rythym, he picked an offense apart with 10 - 15 yard passes. This made LB's drop back in coverage, safties play in the safety position, and therefore, open up the running game. All of these things are connected. Each phase of a game does not happen in a vacuum of it's own accord. That is why it is a team sport and teams need leaders!

Joe, Craig, Marshall clearly short armed that pass. It was so obvious. That's a chicken ass move. Not what we paid $50 mill for. Where is the beast?? Earn your money, fool!

Martin,

It appears, to me at least, it was very hard for Sparano to make the decision to stick with Ronnie during that first drive.

He makes it sound like it went against his every instict as to what he SHOULD have done.

If that was a tough decision for him as a head coach....

i agree henne is a good qb amd he is not the problem. the problem is the COACHING STAFF. the problem is the one who calls the plays. we need new coaches all but defense.

Mark you're the eternal optimist! I have to be honest, I thought we would make the playoffs this year and now I'm not so sure. The worst part is I think we've beaten ourselves. After SUCH a promising start and winning our first two games we lost the two games we had to win. While there are some signs of progress I know see that we're not there yet and there are still some things missing. Biggest disapointment this year has been the lack of an effective run game. If I'm not mistaken I think we have THREE rushing touchdown this year and that's not good enough. On top of that, what's been the longest run this season? Name ONE memorable run? I think there might have been ONE by Williams but that's been it. If we want to start pointing fingers let's start with the run game.

DC,
Has Henne shown the ability to throw the touch pass necessary to complete a Screen?

Are the Backs sure handed enough?

Can the line execute blocking schemes for a Screen?

I see a turnover in the making with this group?


Go Phins!

The problem is Henne is being coached to not make big plays. IF EVERYTHING IN PRESNAP IS OK, THEN HE IS ALLOWED TO TAKE A SHOT. There is NO reward if you don't take the risk! They are more concerned making sure he knows to NOT make a mistake rather than asking him to make a big play.

Sadly, when they do ask him to, the game is on the line late & they are losing under almost impossible circumstances. In a vanilla offense to boot where the defense has an easy time reading whats coming. The kid has shown enough to prove he can be a good QB, but he'll never live up to potential in this O.

To be honest, it's shocking that some of the people here don't see whats really going on & how hampered this kid. Every snap he has to do his presnap reads, in play reading the field, identify coverage, blitzers...ON TOP OF THAT, HE NEEDS TO THINK IF THE PASS HE WANTS TO MAKE IS TOO RISKY OR ISN'T A SAFE PLAY.

It shouldn't surprise anyone he is having ups n downs. In this system, any young QB would.

I dont blame Marshall at all for not extending fully to try to haul in that horrible pass. Playoffs or superbowl... yes. with the position Lewis was in he might not be playing this week or longer if he had. Henne hung him out to dry on that one against the most fiersome defensive player the last 10 years.

Relity check: who is playing better? Sanchez or Henne.

Phinfrock,

You make one VERY big assumption and that is that Henne is allowed to audible at the line. I don't believe he is. I believe he is expected to call what is sent in. I have no reason to believe this to be different. Most of the time the offense is about Henne not making mistakes and I think it's completely unfair for most of the people to judge him only on what he's been allowed to call. From what I can see there is no or very little improvisation on this team.

And Mark, I disagree with you on the Marshall play. I don't want my number one receiver getting killed out there because Henne can't put the ball where it's supposed to be. It was a poor pass on Henne's part.

Craig M,

You don't need a memorable Highlight Film run?

Think I will take a 4.5, get me a 1st down, consistantly move the chians, get in the end-zone back all day long.

They don't allow the running game to get started? No rhythm? It doesn't get a chance to establish itself? It gets going then they do some reverse or trick play. That stpid pass in the backfield for a loss.

Curtis Martin was a pretty good non-break away back.

Go Phins!

Armando,
Thanks for trying to put a lid on this Henne/Pennington Dolphin fans issue.
This is non-issue for Sparano and company because of your stated reasons. They have to see what Henne can do.
My issue remains the offensive approach with Dan Henning designing the Dolphins game plan entirely within 20 yards of the line of scrimmage.
The team has zero vertical passing game and that is a huge problem because it stunts the potential for the playmakers the team has.
Sparano wants a game manager when the vertical passing QB’s are at the helm of winning teams.
It’s a problem, we cannot even see if Henne can be a vertical passing QB because of the Henning approach to offense.
The truth is the Dolphins could have a long term answer at QB but we cant even tell because Henne is not allowed to be a modern passing QB.
I’d like to see a power running game combined with deep passing attempts.
This offense will remain stunted until Henning or Sparano/Henning is gone and the team adds a vertical threat to balance BM.
The staff should have been able to see this before the start of the season. There typically are not mid season fixes for these type of problems.
I’ve said it for a long time now, the offensive approach is just inadequate for beating good teams.

Joe good post at 2:50 pm.....I think you nailed a lot of what's ACTUALLY going on in Henne's world.

King, so you agree we wasted 2 picks on him? Because those tough catches in traffic are EXACTLY the ones we brought him here to catch since Wilford & Turner didn't pan out. He Ginn'd it. That's why Ginn isn't here anymore. Shocking fans accept that kind of half assed effort.

no one cares

what New world Order?

what is the Federal Reserve?

thought the government runs it?

banks are not corrupt, they are here to help us, right?

Obama is not a puppet, right?

The NFL is not fixed, right?

just print more money, right?

who cares?

Craig, I can only remember Ronnie's run against Minnesota.

Joe,

Let's not start comparing Marshall to Ted Ginn. Ginn turtled at every opportunity and headed for the sideline whenever he could. Marshall fights for every yard possible and takes on any and all tacklers and he even blocks for his teamates. I don't have a problem with what Marshall did. It was a TERRBILE pass and I don't want my number one receiver out for the year because my quarterback couldn't hit him where he was supposed to hit hi, As King said, Henne left him out to dry.

Screw that bull,fire every one on the team if iam Mr. Ross i should do that,we spent a lot of money in Marshall,Dansby,Nolan, and lost games against team that we should beat if we going to be a SUPER BOWL team caliber and right now we sucks sucks sucks sucks.

JETS JETS JETS

It's not right Mark. This is an offence that was supposed to have a strong running game. Where's the accountabiility for this or the outrage. I haven't looked at the numbers but I have to think that we're getting beat in the time of possession category almost every game, no?

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