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Browns beat Dolphins, 13-10

Folks, the Browns beat the Dolphins 13-10 today.

Terrible. Season over? Probably.

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mccarts: at this point ... I don't care WHO is under center as long as it's NOT Henne. I hate rewarding incompetence by allowing the status quo to continue.

Im gutted...i dont think I can bang my girlfriend today after this.............

The problem with this team is we have to many 8-8 players. Is that what Parcells was brought in to do? Make a 1-15 team an 8-8 team? No stars. No Playmakers. No consistency except consistently inconsistent.

In a parallel universe the Dolphins are on top of their conference.

They picked Matt Ryan with their first round pick. They didn't care how much more they'd have to pay him.

Then they picked the best available LT in the 2nd round.

What a different team we'd be if Parcells and company picked differently.

How about we draft a QB in the draft with a lot of good fundamental skills. THEN hire Don Strock to coach the guy ... let's face it, Strock probably did as much to make Marino as Marino did.

Il try though.....

Honey..!!......you got a minute?...!!!!

If it wasn't before, it's clear now that this team's problems revolve around erratic, inconsistent and sub-par QB play.

We've been in every game except 2 (NE and Baltimore), and it always seems to comes down to poor QB play that costs us the game.

Either we're throwing interceptions, settling for field goals or punting because of poor QB play. Unless there is some miraculous and CONSISTENT improvement, priority 1 this off season has to be improving the QB position through the draft or trade.

navydolfaninva, I do think that this team stacks up well against the Jets of last year. Great defense but sputtering offense. Sanchez was every bit as bad last year as Henne has looked recently, if not even worse.

Mac and Chris in 623, yes the AFC standings are bleak, but again I'm going to point to the Jets last year. They were 7-6 going into a game against the Falcons last year and lost. They had something like a 1% chance to make it at that point, but they won their games and a lot of other teams tanked.

This Dolphins team is very comparable to that Jets team last year, if not slightly better. Call me crazy but there is still a chance. No team is eliminated until the math says it is.

there's nothing left to discuss, the season is done. another one down the drain.

henne simply has no confidence left in him. dan henning has got to go. if you call a toss on first down when you need 80 yards to score theres something wrong there. 973-986-6007, i hope miami coaches see my number and text me i could give them pointers. ive been studying the dolphins all year and could change the face of them.

jm season ended weeks ago

Im so gutted only a big set of fun bags will get me outta this funk im in....

JM, you may be right, but can you seriously say Henne is going to be any better?

Sorry, as usual all the Henne haters come out every loss like cockaroaches. Till Henne gets an OC that has a different philosophy then Henne wont progress. And that is EXACTLY what they are saying on WQAM right now.

Naa, I can't delude myself.

is it me, or can none of our d-back catch...ever?!?!

entire franchise is a joke. please please hire a whole new staff next season. lets try and get it right, right now we are a joke franchise

Henne was even an after thought when parcells drafted him

The real tought part is that there is nothing to suggest that this team is going to get any better in the future. We are faced with needing a total rebuild - again.

bobbyd12: Henne is damaged goods. He's had three years of bad habits bred into him.

franchise continues to suffer for not picking up brees when we ha the chance. still pains me. im a physical therapist and our medical staff passed on him cuz of a labral injury. what a joke! thats an easy recovery in the 21st century!

Henne -- not Henning -- UNDER THREW wide open Hartline. He's thrown 12TDs and 15 INTs with 3 excellent receivers and a above average TE. WTF more evidence do you need? HE has had protection. He has Ricky and Ronnie and Polite.

He's simply an abomination as an NFL QB. He won't be a back-up on 2nd rd. pay scale. He'll get cut or traded for 6-7th OR renegotiate his contract. The die is cast.

bring in jamarcus "purple drank" rusell lets see what he can deliver at QB. finish the year 6 & 10 and focus on the draft. I also think dan henning needs to be fired ASAP.

WE NEED TO NOT SHOW UP IN THE 2 REMAINING HOMES GAMES SO ROSS CAN GET HIS HEAD out his a@# and fire sporano and those bad coaches,rob ryan helps put the dagger on his brothers most hated team..nolan carroll drop int.shows you when you rely on young players that stuff happens..the dolphins have no leaders on offense..2 quiet runnigbacks..we need a new coach who will enspire the team and the fans..p.s the one the quietly beat the fins today..was the punter hodges he killed us..

Once Parcells lands with a team he'll give us at least a 3rd round pick for Henne.

Think how Cameron and the Ravens picked up Beck.

Fire the entire staff! Fire Sparano! Fire Henning! Fire Henne! This whole idea of playings to stay in the game and win at the end is garbage and does not work by obvious showing the Dolphins and Coach Sparano have put up this Season

bring in gruden draft newton or mallet!

I have to agree there with Sandoval henne has had every opportunity to succeed and has failed he can't read defenses, can't run, and has serious accuracy problems, at this point they are only playing for personal pride and job security which may be a mute point since the players union is telling players to start saving money in lieu of a lockout next year if that happens at least we won't lose ant more games. And one more note to Sporano, Dude it's time to take some chances I say start Tyler with a starting Off. line

Really. We paid Parcells how much for this? 12 Mil? Is the NFL watching what a mess he put together?

ive backed henne from day 1, but ill admit, im starting to doubt him. that was one of the worst games ive ever seen by a qb. leaf still number 1 vs chiefs. offense is so slow. glad when ronnie and ricky are out and we get some speed next year. franchise has sunk so low

Henning will clearly retire again...thankfully...but Pennington WOULD HAVE WON THIS GAME. And, every honest fan knows it. Henne is the problem not the answer and NO OC/QB coach can fix his problems. They are too numerous and he makes them over and over.

as soon as parcells left and the specialteams coach was fired during the season ..it's a sign that these coaches are gone..

ive said all along that this team lacks speed and playmakers. This team has repeatedly bypassed those types for size and bulk. Its a new NFL guys. Wake the F up!!!!

Cant believe I sit through this every week. A few highs and way too many lows. Season is over. No way can they catch any one for a playoff spot now. Wouldnt matter. Fins wouldnt know what to do with a playoff game anyway... Need a real NFL QB and Coaching staff.

We Are Not Going To Be In Position For A Franchise QB This Season.

Im very pessimistic one even exist in this 2011 draft. However, there is a potentially franchise rb. That's Mark Ingram.

A great rb can be of tremendous value to a middle of the pack qb(Henne). Henne is horrible on 3rd and longs. A great rb can ease some of those burdens.

I'll say it again....you guys are NUTS if you get rid of a 25 year old QB and decide to draft ANOTHER QB next year in the first round. What a waste of a first round pick and what a waste of Henne. We have too many OTHER needs and we don't have a second round pick, as things stand right now. So, I just want to understand your plan? We draft a QB in the first round and do what? Have him step right in and play right away? And then what? After he blows up, draft ANOTHER QB in 2-3 years time. Great plans guys!! We need a pass catching TE, help at running back, help on the OL, another ILB and help in the secondary. And our receivers are only average to above-average. Henne gets to play with a competent play-calling OC. That's a must!!

How come NOBODY criticizes our running backs. Yet ANOTHER game with no running back reaching 100 yards. What gives guys? Is that Henne's fault too? How come nobody has anything to say about that? Are we not allowed to criticize Brown and Williams?

zaphod, all Henne has to clean up is the interceptions. They should take the ball out of his hands more often and hand it off to ronnie and ricky more. If Henne can become a game manager and not lose games with bad decisions, this defense is good enough to keep the team in the game every week. Again, they should follow the Jets 2009 model - don't put the QB in a position where he can lose the game, play solid D and let the wins come to you.

2 road games left (by the way, the Dolphins are 5-1 on the road so those aren't as scary as it sounds) and 2 layups in the Bills and Lions (if the Dolphins follow my model). 10-6 and a wild card are within reach.

dying breed ingram is too slow for the NFL... Fins need more speed... I still think newton could fall in their lap in the 1RD...

I am not saying that Henne is great but who to hell does he have to throw to? He was out there with one TE and 3 undrafted receivers (no offense to you Bess). This offense is run by the same guy that ran it it three years ago with two TE's. Did anyone see a second TE out there today? Henne is making boneheaded plays but they are sending him out there with nothing to work with.

Snicker...sorry, I can't help myself.

A. Blank

did anyone else notice how picsed Hartline was when Henne under threw him for a pick? i mention this because for Hartline to be that mad, it has to happen continuously. Not just once in a while. Henne is not even average. He is a back up at best.

Henne should be selling hot dogs in the stands. Wait, he'd probably mess that up, too. Choosing Jake Long over Matt Ryan looking real smart right about now. What a pack of goddam losers.

the frustating thing about henne .is that he shows no emotion..armando why don't you ask him that..we need to get gruden draft a qb in the first round,.trade marshall cause he won't want to play with a rookie qb..and start from scratch again ..and please no more sporano and ireland!

Well, there were some bright spots, there really were. I see a lot of the little things coming together, I really do. I have nothing but confidence this group will get the job done, and I really mean that, I really do.

Weren't the Browns a layup? How do you get out played by Jake Delhomme? That's beyond bad. The Browns were just waiting around to lose and the Dolphins kept serving it up on a silver platter.

Look it's one thing to realize that Henne is not the answer. And it's another thing to be one of the people that never had faith to begin with.

But this thing that's happening in here now, you know, the people who never had faith who are actually bragging that they were right, AND HAPPY ABOUT IT. Well that's just downright pathetic.

I don't know what you people are thinking but we just all came to the conclusion that this team has to start ALL over again. New coaches, new players at many positions. Meaning we're in for another long while of rebuilding.

If you think replacing Chad Henne is going to make this team elite you are fooling yourselves. This is a very very sad day for all Dolphins fans. So I beg you, please act accordingly.

craig thats not what they are saying, im pretty sure their plan is to actually draft a good qb this time. but hey maybe im wrong

Jon from Maine,

Finally a voice of reason. You're right on the money. He looked awful today but tell me somebody on offence who had a good game. Did anybody see Fasano out there today? Mr Invisible!

We're SHI$*tty AND WILL BE FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS

would henne start for any other NFL team other than AZ? I don't think so...

Jon, great relevant point. But it is true of only this game. Henne now has 15 picks. Even when Marshall has been there Henne still throws the picks and misses receivers. Over his head.

Pennington would have won this game? Pennington will never play another NFL game, stupid statement. We need playmakers this draft, but a QB isnt the position im worried about. Again, Henning's playcalling is ridiculous and that is where i lay the blame.

Henne is what he is, an average QB. I never want to hear Henne being compared to Sanchez again. Miami has good defense, and nolan is great. Henne, Henning, Sparano has to go, end of discussion. The tuna era is done. Ireland should be out as well. Another year of no playoffs for Miami. Sanchez is qb, not Henne. New york is what miami should be, successful and confident. Good luck, miami fans. next week at 4:15, we will own miami again.


P.S. JASON TAYLOR LOVES NEW YORK

dint know why I am so pissed. i said they were an 8-8 team before the season started.

jm just quit with this playoff garbage. they could have 20 games left and it wouldnt matter. this team is awful, layups?? bills im sure will beat us. will get killed on road vs jets and pats. we could finish 10-6 and it still wouldnt come close to a playoff spot. wake up man and talk reality. lets get to the draft and hope we can find some speed. with no nfl next year its gonna be a long time till we see another meaningful dolphins game

Why didn't they draft Matt Ryan when they had the chance?

Was it the money?

Antonio, and Monday night the Pats will show u a real football team. go back to ur NY blog u piece of shyt

"I am not saying that Henne is great but who to hell does he have to throw to?"

Uh...well, start with a WIDE open Hartline and an open Hartline in the endzone. He missed open RBs in the flat. He forces the balll.

Look, Henne is Zippy the Pinhead. And, shark bait as an NFL QB.

IF WE HAVE CHANCE TO DRAFT MARK INGRAM AND DONT. YOU GUYS CAN RIDE THIS NOW 14YR DOLPHINS ROLLERCOASTER MINUS ONE FORMER FAN. tHATS EXACTLY WHAT I'LL BECOME IF WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO GET MARK INGRAM AND PASS FOR ANOTHER BUST QB.

THATS EXACTLY WHAT WE WILL END UP WITH AT THE POSITION WE'LL DRAFT. I SEE NO SCENARIO OF DRAFTING TOP 10 UNLESS WE LOSE THE REMAINDER OF OUR GAMES.

IM NOT EVEN SOLD ON SUPPOSEDLY THE BEST QB IN THE 2011 DRAFT ANDREW LUCK. HE HASNT EVEN PLAYED AGAINST ANY OF THE TOP 20 DEFENSES ON THE COLLEGIATE LEVEL.

AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED ALL OF THIS YEAR'S COLLEGIATE QB'S CARRY HIGHER THAN NORMAL POTENTIAL FOR BUST. SO WHY WASTE YET ANOTHER #1 DRAFT PICK, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DONT EVEN HAVE A 2ND RD PICK.

dln265, the Browns were not really a layup. They had beaten the Saints soundly, destroyed the Pats, then took the Jets to OT.

The Dolphins would have beaten them today had they taken the ball out of Henne's hands a little more. They ran 32 pass plays and 27 rushes by RBs. They need to manage Henne from here on out like the Jets did with Sanchez, have more running plays than passing plays every game from here on out, and let the D carry the load and this really really could be a playoff year.

Once you're in, anything can happen.

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