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Henne remains the starter, but evaluation coming

Despite another three-interception game, Chad Henne remains the Dolphins starting quarterback -- for now.

Dolphins coach Tony Sparano said Monday he is not considering benching Henne (again), this time for Tyler Thigpen. "No, I don’t think so right now," Sparano said.

But ...

Sparano admitted some re-evaluation will take place by the Dolphins at the quarterback position. Perhaps not now, but eventually? Absolutely. Like at the end of the season.

“Listen the guy’s a young player right now. He’s, I think, getting better at a lot of things. At the end of the year we’ll have to sit down and from our standpoint we have to evaluate the whole big picture, I mean, we really do but there’s obviously some areas there where Chad needs to continue to improve and he would tell you that. One of the areas is, is this, this turnover thing.

"We just cannot, nobody can; I mean I’m watching one of the best in the league the last couple weeks have some problems that way (Peyton Manning), so you just can’t overcome them in this league. The margin is, it’s just too hard to overcome those kind of turnovers and unfortunately what you see is the guy throwing the football doing it. We don’t see all the other factors around it and there are a lot of other factors that go into how the quarterback plays in general and, and I think what the outcome is. In other words the result of an interception or all and any of those things.

"I mean, we had two protections yesterday where for all intensive purposes we’ve blocked these protections 150 times during the course of the season and what occurred yesterday on those two protections should never occur in that particular protection but it did and he got hit as he was throwing and at the end of the day you don’t convert a third and four. That stops a drive and that kills you in some of those things. The quarterback kind of takes the blame for that and there’s a lot of people around him.

"I feel like we got to make sure that the people around him are getting better as well. That’s probably a long answer to a short question but I do think this guy’s getting better. We’re going to have to evaluate everything at the end of the year."

Seems like Henne will get at least this coming game to get out of the Cleveland hole he dug himself. If he wins, he continues. If he loses, well, he probably continues because benching him at that point would be moot. The Dolphins would be out of the playoffs for sure, rather than almost definitely out of the playoffs.

The only reason Sparano would have for benching him at that point is if the coach believes Thigpen has a better chance to win him some games and he feels the need to get himself some wins for his own job security.

It otherwise seems wise that Henne might just keep his job until the end of the season and gets those games to prove himself.

Either way, it seems the Dolphins will go quarterback shopping this offseason. They will either try to find backup help or a quarterback that can compete for the starting job. That, of course, will all depend on that evaluation of Henne that will come when 2010 is over.

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I want the Henne who spanked the Raiders last week...where is he?
You know...the one who perfectly led all his receivers...stood tall in the pocket.
Showed some mobility....
Seems like there are 2 Henne's out there and that's not a good thing because you never know which one will show up on Sunday.

When Sparano/Ireland and Henning are fired. The next coach is not going to dump Henne.

mark my words.

A new HC will work with Henne to undue the stunting of his development by this incompetent staff.

Norv or Marty or Gruden could turn henne into a good QB.

I wish the Dolphins could get Cam Newton, but it isn't going to happen. He'll be the first pick in the draft, and the Dolphins won't have that pick unless they trade their whole draft.

Ox80:

Look who Kolb is playing behind? Come on, Vick is playing EXCEPTIONAL football right now. Remember CXassell with the Pats backing up Brady? Where is he now? Starting for the division-leading chiefs. What a great luxury for Reid, 2 starters on one team. WTF do we have?

Mike B,
The Trifecta could have chased M Vick but did not.

Newton will not be a Dolphin.

superstar qb's are hard to find like brady ' brees 'manning'.henne is not a star but stars are hard to find at qb!rob ryan did his brother a big favor by making henne look bad in this game..both brothers have it in for henne ..because they want sanchez to be the better of the 2 ..sanchez has a great offensive line etc..imagine chad henne with the jets ..they would be alotttt better than with sanchez..

DC, with all due respect, the Pats have the 31st ranked defense in the league - not saying Sanchez should have single handedly lead them to victory - but 3 points is very bad - not matter the opponent. Henne sucked arse on Sunday no doubt but Sanchez did worse - he just hates the cold and what good is that in a NYC QB?

X80:

Besides, Eagles won't give up kolb. He's too good and Vick is still a running QB. I will admit, he does go through his progressions before he takes off. Much more complete QB than he was with the Falcons. It still burns me that we wouldn't even bring Vick in for a tryout.

Rex, just like his Father, is very wily. Don't forget it.

Coaching, coaching, coaching, coaching, and did I say coaching? Belichek, hate'em or not, gives his players the "confidence" they need to know he will do whatever it is to make them successful in the game. He knows what his players can do and what plays that will work.
Do our players have that confidence in these coaches? I don't think so..maybe with Nolan now. NE knows he's got them covered...Henne needs to have a coach that gives him the confidence to go out and do what he can do-Henne hasn't gotten that. Henning is a pure kill joy for Henne and this team. Get him out of there today, he's not needed any longer.


I want the Henne who spanked the Raiders last week...where is he?
You know...the one who perfectly led all his receivers...stood tall in the pocket.
Showed some mobility....
Seems like there are 2 Henne's out there and that's not a good thing because you never know which one will show up on Sunday.

Posted by: NHFINSFAN | December 07, 2010 at 01:51 PM

NH, like I said in a earlier post I like Hennes chances this Sunday, The jets are a team that loves to blitz and the last two teams that did that paid, Henne can throw, he just needs a receiver that's not doubled covered....

F the Jets and their po'edness, if the fins can't get fired up for this game then this team has no heart.

A running would have helped this team a lot.

no more rotating runnigbacks..do like the falcons do with matt ryan ..give the rock to turner all day no rotaing..keep the same wr's all day no more rotaing the offensive line stay with the 5 guys no matter what..they need to be more organised..that 's dan henning's sporano's fault..practice the deep ball in practice..did not see one in all of minicamp!

qbclub, but he won the game, right?

Look, I could care less about Sanchez. What I'm angry about is how my QB can't execute ONE drive in the final quarter of play AT HOME when it's a MUST WIN game. That's what irks me. If this was Week 4, Week 6, or even if Cleveland was playing light out like they did against the Pats, I wouldn't be so hard on Henne. NONE of that was the case.

This was a home game (coming on the heels of a bunch of losses at home, so much so that the coach changed the plan from past weeks). This was a MUST WIN game for Miami. This was a game against a weakened, lousy competitor. This was a Conference game (which is important for Playoff hopes as well). This was a game that was ONE WEEK removed from a fine performance WITH THE SAME OFFENSE that was on the field this Sunday. This was a game where the Browns were ASKING Miami to win. And after all that, Henne can't will himself to play better, even for ONE FREAKIN' DRIVE.

Unacceptable. Maybe for y'all it's fine, there's always next year, we'll get the Jets, blah, blah, blah. For me, that was the icing on the cake. Not the Ravens loss, not the Steelers, not the earlier NY/Pats debacles, I have Henne a pass on ALL THOSE GAMES. I didn't feel he was solely (majority) responsible for the loss. This week though, there's no one I feel who did MORE to lose that game, than Chad Henne. AND he was just benched for poor play a few weeks ago. If that's me, I don't care how I do it, but I don't let my teammates down again. But he did. And he let us down. And I'm not accepting his apology, and I'm not making excuses for the guy anymore. He's a failure, as of now, in my book, until he proves (if given that amount of time) that he can actually be a franchise QB.

Vick is all hindsight, nobody could have known he'd be better than he was before. He was only an average QB with great running ability before. It also took him a full year to get rolling, he was not good his first year back, this fan base would have been screaming to dump him.
You hit my point on Kolb, if he is as good as you think, no way they are letting him go, if they are letting him go, that is a red flag.

Folks we should be more concerned about Henne's habit if over throwing sure TD passes. I believe he had two in the Cleveland game. If he hits those two TD passes no one is talking today about three ints. Farve, P. Manning and the great Drew Breese have more ints then Henne.

THE NFL IS SO CLOSE IN TALENT NOW OF DAYS ..THAT COACHING IS WHAT MAKES THE DIFFRENCE..FIRE SPORANO!

So DC, how do you feel about Chad Henne?

Agreed though - the stretch of games from Tennessee until the end of the year was supposed to be Henne's launching pad as I saw it. The Bear game was a washout but otherwise he's 2 up and 1 down - not good enough.

This O-line has underachieved big time this year.
There were a couple of games that they were able to make a pocket. The rest of the season they have not.
Plus they have not been able to open running lanes either.
A QB can only be good and stand tall if the guys up front do their job well.
An underachieving O-line is the direct responsibility of the Head Coach.

Henne show no WILL, being an icy cold leader is fine, but he acts like he could care less. Oh well, threw a pick, it happens. Oh well, missed the throw, it happens. He seems to wait for someone else to rise to the occasion, but not himself.

THE NFL IS A GAME OF INCHES ..FROM BEING A HERO TO BEING A GOAT!

Was'nt the fist Pumper a O-Line coach???, And isnt the O-line the highest paid unit in he NFL???????

Aloco, Please post as yourself....

Ronnie Brown and the OL have definitely been the biggest culprits in sabotaging the offense this year. They stink - although they've been better recently. Add to that Henning still calls a run first offense a lot putting the QB in 3rd and 9 and 3rd and 10 a lot and that is tough for a young QB. It wasn't supposed to go this way.

In interviews with players they say Henne is colorful, funny and intense in the huddle. It is simply his approach to not be dominated by his emotions for the camera's.

Personally I don't know how he does it. I was always a hot head in sport, but I do not hold that against Henne.

Mark, agreed, Sanchez SUCKED. But you know as I do that the ranking system is a crock (or at least doesn't tell the whole story). And the Pats are ranked so low because they're playing a bunch of rookies. But the rookies stepped up.

But, even conceding the point (that Sanchez sucked worse). Let's look at it from a purely "professional athlete" point-of-view. The Jets have losses to give, they're freakin' 9-2 (9-3 now). Not only top of the division (they were), but top of the Conference AND the league. So, Sanchez sucked, but only sucked enough to lose 3 games.

Henne KNEW he HAD TO WIN that game. It's no comparison. Jets lost to Pats, they're STILL in Playoff hunt (and I mean seriously, not some small, tiny infinitesimal chance). Henne knew if we lost to Browns, our tiny hopes were dashed. It was a MUST WIN. Other than getting paid, that's what these guys are here for (to go to the Playoffs and win a SuperBowl). That's what they were trained to do from little kids. People here say Henne's dumb. I don't, I know he knew the implications. And yet, he did nothing (or couldn't muster within himself the fortitude to impose his will on the game). That's what I'm most upset about. I saw no understanding of the direness of the situation. Me, at home, I'm sweatin' bullets, getting up off the couch, walking in circles, nervous, know time's running out. I didn't see that with Henne, and I should have.

It's just like people here say about Donovan McNabb. He's winning the game, stoic. He's losing the game, stoic. Yeah, there's something to be said for a level-head, but that emotion and passion bring adrenaline, which can HELP an athlete compete. It brings intensity, clarity, focus to the situation at hand. I respect McNabb and Henne for their level-heads. But, in this instance at least, that level-head didn't help Henne, it maybe even hurt him.

I do feel like you cannot blame everything on HENNE, many of you are Right Sporano seems to babble on and seems to make excuses, I would like him to call out marshall and others when they F-UP.....Did anyone see Henne throwing to Marshall earlier in the season...they looked unstopable then we had the collapse of the Special Teams,,,,,,,,and how many times have we run the ball on 3rd and long this year? I bet at least 7 or 8 times....No wonder Henne is flicted. I would like to see henning gone.

LOL Mark. But you and I were two of the Henne supporters from early on. When everyone was on the Thigpen bandwagon, I remember clearly you and me were rocks. I'm still not saying get rid of the guy. And if they give him another shot next year, I won't be all that upset. UNLESS, he continues to play like this, then I will.

But, I've changed in my hopes for Henne. I know he's young, but that game made me blink. I now know we MUST get another QB next year, however we do it, to compete and maybe even improve on the level of play we have from our QB at the moment. If the defense remains intact, and we get a new OC, and offensive players to bolster what we have now, I won't be able to accept that the reason we're losing, and ONLY reason (I'm hypothesizing here) is our QB. That I can't accept. Not after our 20 year drought at the position. Even Jay Fiedler played well enough to get us into some Playoffs. Remember, Penny got us to the Playoffs last. Henne hasn't ever gotten us anywhere yet.

Could care less weather they bench him or not at this point, let him play out the year and then start looking for someone at the very least to push him as the starter, if sparano is still here that is, if he isnt, well that pretty much ends henne as the starter here in miami. How long should the leash be for a project like henne to keep showing inconsistant play at the QB position untill it finally needs to be cut????!!!!

The people on this board love to blame everything on Henne. Where is the running game? Brown had 50 yards, Ricky had 48. This can't happen. We have to be a well balanced team and to blame the offensive problems on Henne alone is ridiculous. Yeah i know Ronnie and Ricky are Pro bowlers, well that seems like ages ago when they were. Not anymore. I'm not saying Henne is great and made some mistakes so did other quarterbacks this week and I think you know which one's I'm talking about. Give Henne a new O.C. and new H.C. and a better supporting cast and see how he does.

The talent is decent for this team. The coaches have blundered a number of these games this year and the players know it.
I read earlier in this thread that Dansby want Henne to just relax and do his thing and that they have his back.
I remember the Pitt game and Chrowder saying the game ought to have been over in the 1st qtr when the two huge turnovers did'nt get converted into TD's.
The prevent offense sucks, playing for FG's sucks and so does Henning/Sparano.

Enough with Henne already. He under threw a bad pass to Hartline. Once Hartline went out, everybody was blanketed. I don't blame him for trying to squeeze a ball into Bess. He's the only guy who was left that he has ANY confidence in. How many WR's did you see running wide open vs. the Browns? How many passes did you see Wallace drop?

He had no throw that wasn't contested. The Browns were the better team. Every route looked like it was within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. Some game plan!

Imagine what he saw every time he dropped back to see 6-7 DB, 3 WR's & 1 TE. Not many windows to throw in to. Not to mention, he was throwing to 3 undrafted free agent WR's.

Some perspective people. I'm not sure if Henne is the answer or not, but Jesus, this team is a mess. If you wanna find something to fix FIRST, try the O-line!

MAYBE CHAD DOESN'T SHOW EMOTION BECAUSE THE GUY UPSTAIRS IS A WALKING COARSPE..I'AM SURE THAT OFFENSIVE STAFF MEETING DURING THE WEEK ' ARE A REAL RIOT..VERY EXCITING!


MAYBE CHAD DOESN'T SHOW EMOTION BECAUSE THE GUY UPSTAIRS IS A WALKING COARSPE..I'AM SURE THAT OFFENSIVE STAFF MEETING DURING THE WEEK ' ARE A REAL RIOT..VERY EXCITING!

Posted by: BLACKCEROTE | December 07, 2010 at 02:29 PM

Aloco, Post under your name, or has the fumes of glue made you into Blackcerote??????Just wondering??

It's "intents and purposes", not "intensive purposes". Was that a mistake by Tony Sparano or the media?

Speaking of the upstairs thing...I really think the coordinators should be on the field. When players come off the field they can go to the coordinators, talk about what they're seeing and find ways to attack it.

Schmoe on that int to Bess, Fasano was WIDE open.

DC, I would be ok with a) going with Henne b) drafting the next young franchise QB in round 1 c) bringing in a vet to battle Henne to light a fire under his arse next year. Whatever managment deems best.

However, what I don't want to see is Henne benched in favour of Tyler Thigpen. And I didn't want anything done until the end of the year at the earliest. Playing Thigpen only prolongs the Henne trial. In addition, I don't and didn't think he is the blame for our offenses failures.

exactly. enough with henne already. he sux period!..lol

People have been talking about the constant situations that Henning puts our team in because of play calling. This could be, but it is up to the qb to overcome some of this by making accurate throws, by seeing the defense and taking whats avaialble, by recognizing where the pressure is coming from and getting into the right protections and or plays. Our quarterback struggles with this process. It isn't easy, or an overnight achievment. But why would a new play caller change this. What will this genius have to do to get Henne to be able to recognize where the pressure comes from and adjust accordingly. Henning has been poor at situational play calling. This is where the frustration mounts, and I get this. Last year we were able to run the ball, and the line play was a strength. This year it hasn't been the case, and it has exposed Henne, and his shortcomings as a qb. We all had huge expectations from him because the thought was we were 1 reciever away from being a juggernaught. Now we aren't even sure if the guy behind center is qualified to carry the clipboard next year.

Ol Fat neck will have a good day VS the jets on sunday........

Joe:

(The Browns were NOT the better team on Sunday. The Dolphins should have won by like 24-13 instead of losing 13-10)

To ME...the 'underthrow' was a BIG DEAL.
Henne has a rocket arm and is well capable of overthowing Hartline in that situation.

That leads me to wonder if someone has screwed with
his HEAD and/or DELIVERY!

I just don't know....but I think all of us expected the guy to be winging balls around the field by now.
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Yeah, it's Henne's responsibility to overcome the opposing D and the inept play calling of his OC. That's fair.

he does wing it, but they're all misfires..lol

Ok...so another possible question is:

WHAT WAS HENNE'S
' W O N D E R L I N K ' SCORE?
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Henne is too inconsistant in his role at QB, he showed the same as much last year towards the end, hes not improving and has basically been a mixed bag of results game by game, WHEN IS HE GOING TO BECOME MORE aware and the leader of this football team. I just dont see it happening this year or in the future. Yes this team is a mess but henne shouldnt be let off the hook for continuing to overthrow, underthrow, and stare down certain recievers in games, thats something you learn playing in college and growing on as a young QB in the NFL.

To ignore the horrible mismanagement of Henne is a mistake.
The Dolphins have way bigger needs than QB with the 1st pick. Like a RT.
Besides who is the savior in the mid 1st round?

Given Thigpen isnt a better option, like Sparano I would start Henne these last 4 games too. Sparano is right Henne is getting better and he needs everyone around him to step up too.

Does Henne getting better means he's a franchise material, Hell no! But he is hands down currently the best qb on our roster. Detractors will have to live with that for now. Love it or hate folks its our present reality.

daryl, I don't think your last post makes much sense. Our offense is simple to defend. Henning can call the best play in the world but the point is, it's easily defensed.

Teams are not worried about our speed. They're up jamming at the line playing press coverage. They aren't worried about or running game so they can play coverage. Teams know we have a leaky o-line. If the D calls a blitz, and we have slow WR's running routes, Henne needs to wait til they're ready for the ball. By the time they're ready, he either A. is on the ground B. has a guy in his face or C. has to rush his throw.

Sometimes the scheme and the liability of the talent around you is too much to overcome.

X80, it's easy to play MMQB.

Yaz, Dont make a big deal over the "Wonderlink" Score,Hot Ashley scored high on it but reality is she's not that good in the lick department if you know what I mean... And I think you do..........

madmax, espn's accuscore actually said if Ronnie/Ricky ran for 50 yards, Miami had a high probability of winning. And they did, and we lost.

But you/Joe make valid points that it wasn't ALL Henne's fault. But he was the main culprit. I agree Henning's offense system sucks.

But again, I was a HUGE Henne supporter. And this was a game for him to put all doubts aside that he was the franchise QB of this team. And it wasn't a tall order. I mean, compared to this week, it was like playing a Pop Warner team. And because of our home record, it wasn't a trap game. We're not good enough to overlook any opponent. So, Henne really failed to take this gift of a game and run with it. First 2-win streak since Week 2, would have been a great feeling. No matter what happened rest of year, that would have been enough to show me something about Henne (and his fighting spirit).

He can still show me something, but there will always be this nagging at the back of my mind, reminding me about this game. Not saying he'll never get past it (for me), but it'll take a good long while.

She's Orally challenged......

DyingBreed you're right that's the best we have for now..don't see no one better comming out next year..i know people like cam nweton..but wasn't matt leinart and vince young also hot after winning the heisman..lets just keep praying we struck gold one day.

As for Kevin Kolb, even before he went down to concussion and Vick took over he was struggling a bit just like Henne. Those clamoring for Kolb must realize he's as unproven as Henne.

Last time we took a 2nd rd pick qb from Philly was Jay Feeley. He showed a lot of promise in limited opportunities too. How did that work out for us dolfans?

All this 'lets give up on Henne' business is absolutely appalling. The guy has had just 23 career starts and everyone seems to just want to get rid of him and move on with another QB.

How about we give up on Chris Clemons,Brian Hartline,John Jerry or Jared Odrick?

Oh,and another thing,if any of us want Chad Henne to be the next Dan Marino,it's never gonna happen so give it up already.

Give Henne a new Offensive Coordinator to work with....then he'll blossom

Most everone's noticed by now, Henne doesn't turn his and thereby doesn't see the whole field.

I'm wondering if this was due to an old injury such as a broken neck. Or possibly a birth defect.

I live in Philly. Not that it gives me any expertise on Kolb but I've probably actually seen him play more than most of you fellas.

He IS an interesting prospect who has shown flashes of being VERY good, but I would caution that he had some stinkers as well. That's normal for a young QB, of course, but it would be impossible for any of us fans to make any kind of definitive judgement of the guy based on what he's done so far. It's not as if we're seeing him in practice every day.

In any regard, I wouldn't look for him to be in Miami. He is signed, and the Eagles are probably going to ask a first for him. I don't think the Dolphins want to (or should) do that with no 2nd-rounder.

My guess is that they draft someone, with Kolb only as a remote possibility.

Should read, doesn't turn his head

How about sending Sparano to UM, and Gruden to the Dolphins?

DC, obviously some blame goes to Henne. You gotta make better throws on big play balls. With that said, the Browns secondary is pretty good. Good enough to shut down the Pats. If Brady can look ordinary against them, I think we're being a lil unfair to Chad here. He was throwing to 3 undrafted WR's behind a shaky O-line. Could he have played better? Sure. Was the loss all his fault? Of course not.

I saw alot of good QB's under throw and make bad throws this week. Last night was a good example with Sanchez. It happens.

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