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Ross skips out on postgame locker room -- again

Dolphins coach Tony Sparano or general manager Jeff Ireland or both have a problem -- and it has nothing to do with what you think.

It doesn't have to do with the fact quarterback Chad Henne is inconsistent and both are tied to Henne as the franchise QB. It has nothing to do with the fact no one in Miami's defensive backfield can be trusted to catch a potential interception delivered directly to the hands. It also has nothing to do with the fact the running game, around which the offense is supposed to be built, has been absent the entire season.

Those problem pale for Miami's top football men compared to this: Owner Stephen Ross is clearly not happy.

And Ross makes the final call on both Sparano's and Ireland's job status.

Ross was at Sunday's 13-10 loss to the Cleveland Browns at Sun Life Stadium. But when the Dolphins lost, he made himself scarce. Unlike other games in which Ross goes from his suite to the team's locker room, Ross skipped the trip on Sunday.

And it was at least the second home loss after which Ross skipped joining his team in the locker room after the game. He wasn't there after the shutout loss to Chicago Nov. 18. So that's two consecutive games after which Ross does not go see his team.

This, by the way, may not seem significant to you. But how the owner's feels about his team is something the football people must be keenly monitoring if they want to enjoy some sort of job security. And it is clear those absences are a sign of disapproval.

It doesn't end there.

Ross is clearly not happy with Miami's 1-5 home record. That record is terrible for any team, but particularly frustrating for a team that has managed a 5-1 record on the road. Clearly, if a team can win on the road, it should be able to manage some wins at home as well. If that isn't happening, it suggest they are under-achieving at home. Certainly, Sunday's loss to the previously 4-7 Cleveland Browns suggests that.

And that is bad because Ross wants his home games to be fun and entertaining and an event. He has spent many resources -- celebrities, concerts, noise, etc ... -- on making home games a bigtime experience.

The problem is all the appetizer and side dish stuff loses its meaning when the main course, the actual football team, is not palatable on its home turf. What's more, the Dolphins are not only seldom successful at home this year, they are boring in the process.

The Dolphins are averaging 16.3 points per game at home this year. They are averaging 19.5 points on the road.

That is not good. And it is especially not good when the owner is so keen on entertainment and showtime and offering people a compelling reason to attend games.

That leads me to the next issue: The Dolphins have two more home games at Sun Life Stadium this season. Never mind whether they win or lose those games against Buffalo (Dec. 19) and Detroit (Dec. 26).

The fact is neither one of those games is sold out at this time. The fact is, barring some unexpected series of events, neither of those games is likely to sell out in time to avert the local television blackout.

That sets a bad tone, folks. Home games that are not sold out make the owner (more) unhappy.

And that is increasingly an issue for folks like Sparano and Ireland.

[I'll be discussing this very topic on my radio show, Armando and the Amigo, today from 6 a.m. to 10 a.m. I'm sure the other local morning hosts that read this blog for material will pick up on this, but I would encourage you to listen to me directly so I can share other tidbits on this topic with you. Armando and the Amigo is on 640 Sports in South Florida.]

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Tony Sparano was an Inside Job. Ireland too.

jmj - I'm seeing there are a few of those types on this blog, they don't want to debate or exchange thoughts, only find people to agree with them.

Posted by: 0x80 | December 06, 2010 at 01:58 PM


I'm sorry, I shoulda bean mure cleer. Don't mind DE-baitin but ya'll jus metally master-baiting!

Duh!!!!

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@JoeSchmoe:

And you're only scratching the surface of their ineptitude.

The FBI needs to open a case on Tuna's major fraud.

Ross is not to blame for this joke of a team. He pays the coaches and the GM to get the job done, and that's to win period. So only thing we can blame the owner for is for not stepping up and fire Sparanno next year. He is not an NFL coach reason players are not motivated is because the coaches are not motivated. All Sparronos interview are boring just like the game against the browns. And Henne we all know He sucks, Henne was just like Scott Mitchell look where were at now no where. I would rather watch Miami lose while developing a real Quaterback like Atlanta did with Matt Ryan at least the fans in Atlanta sees what type of player He became. All the pain was worth to the Falcons fans. If Henne remain the QB He will be under development with no results meaning not winning season.

Henne would probably look better if we had a better rb than Ronnie Brown. Unless he has gaping holes to run through Brown is a 3rd and long waiting to happen. God would it be nice to have a young Ricky Williams right now, but unfortunately we dont.

Still even at his advanced rb age Williams is the best rb on the team. If not counting Brown's wildcat yardage Im sure he averages around 2ypc. Im sure that would be the case if anyone cared to try and look it up.

Serious question:

If Ross pulls the plug and brings in a new HC (which I think is unlikely) then exactly how much time do you give the new guy and what would your immediate expectations be?

I ask because I look around and see guys like Andy Reid and Jeff Fisher---both proven winners despite Fisher struggling this year---but also with zero SB titles between them. Would you be demanding their firing if either was in Miami?

How about Cowher? Took him FOURTEEN years to get it done in Pittsburgh and over a decade to find the "man" at QB. He's a guy many would like to see with Miami, correct? Would you show him the same kind of patience the Steelers did?

Gruden? Lost as much as he won at Tampa. Yes, big-time success at first but also some miserable years and very poor drafts. That's not an opinion, it's fact. Would you be patient with him if a similar "boom/bust" cycle took place in Miami---a good year followed by a bad one and generally poor drafting?

See, what I'm asking is just how patient some of you would be with ANYBODY or if you genuinely want the team to just blow it all up every few years if they aren't winning huge.

I know of one team that operates that way. They're called the Washington Redskins. It does not work.

Doesn't mean I'm resistant to change, or that I believe Sparano IS the right answer long-term...only that I see a mentality developing of "get it done NOW" in a sport that just doesn;t work that way. And never will.

MY FAVORITE DISH IS CHEEKEN FEET

DB...outstanding Line.

Unless he has gaping holes to run through Brown is a 3rd and long waiting to happen

and so true

I WAS ONCE INVOLVED IN A SWISS CHEZ AND CHEECKEN EXPERIMENT,THE RESULT WAS ME.TO BE OR NOT TO BREE

Fake Aloco is funny...and so life like

@Darrin:

I've said this to you before, but you think I'm an idiot. But here goes:

STABILITY =
Huizenga begging JJ to stay after JJ has announced he's toasted.
Huizenga allwoing JJ to appoint Wanny his own successor, w/o a coach-search or eval
Huizenga allowing Wanny to fire Mike Westhoff w/o stopping him
Huizenga staying with Wanny past all evidence
Huizenga hiring Tuna to a lopsided in Tuna's favor contract, and allowing Tuna to pick two lightweights as coach & gm.


In other words, stability for stability's sake is as misguided as change for change's sake.

OMG, A imposter posting as a imposter..... I'm gonna need a drink...

I agree upgrade at RB is of serious need, nothing will help a young QB more than a good running game, however I haven't seen enough of Ingram to comment. I did come across this article though, and it does make a compelling case about drafting RB's too high (sure there are exceptions, but in general this puts it in perspective)

http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/22727/undrafted-rbs-put-needs-in-perspective

Kris,

I got the answer for how long we give Henne. It's simple.

We have a top 5 defense right now. If our offense played better this season that young D would probably rank in the top 3 or 4. No excuses there!

We have a solid receiver corp on my opinion, a little more time together and a true burner to compliment Bess and Marshall, no excuses there.

That leaves the O-line, TE and Hennings scheme or lack there of. I wouldn't pull the plug on Henne until I see him play with and at least some kind of a semblance of skill and consistency around him.

It's either that, or simply when we get someone that can prove he's better. Like it or not, he's simply the best we have right now.

I think we should draft a quarterback this year. Not a high pick, but draft one just the same. I think we should draft a quarter back every year regardless. That and try to find a gem somewhere along the line. I don't care if they find him working in produce at Walmart or in the lingerie football league!

Can we stop talking about what if we picked matt ryan instead of long bulls$$t. We didn't. Its in the past. what do we do going forward.
Sooooo frustrating to lose a game like that yesterday. This team is cursed.

Guys,

I pretty much like where we are offensively although it could be slightly better in some areas. My biggest area of concern is more Ronnie Brown than Chad Henne.

You just cant consistently place young qb's in challenging situations. Clearly numerous 3rd and longs are a challenge for Henne right now. As long as Ronnie Brown is supposed to be our best rb it will be a consistent problem.

Look around guys, the better league qb's are even challenged when consistently placed in 3rd and longs. Nearly everyone of our drives that end, ends with 3rd and longs. This also provokes the bulk of Henne mistakes.

ME THINKS THAT IF U INCRESED CHAD HENES MONY TO 9 MILLON A YAR HE WOULD WIN A SUPR BWOL .TO BE OR NOT TO BE

Has anyone else noticed our fonts just changed or is it just my computer?

A couple of points. Whatever side you're on regarding Henne, it's clear the Parcellians (good term Dying) painted themselves into a corner. It was decided that he was 'the future' without any plan B. (see Ron Wolfe's QB theory). So, here we are looking at a weak QB draft, probably at no higher than 10th overall.

One other point. This regime has had 3 years. Do you see anything to suggest that year 4 would be better. How about year 5?

DB,I THOUGHT IT WAS THE GLUE IVE BEEN SNIFFIONG.

Joe schmoe,

That is A lot of talent. # 6 ranked defense in the league, if we had a Q, an average OC - we'd be ranked within the top 10 on offense and in great shape. We have a great offensive line, young talent at WR's and ricky/ronnie. That's a damn good lineup if you ask me. We're ALWAYS in games aside from the baltimore and NE (special teams), we could be 9-3 if we had a better Q. PERIOD!

My fonts changed as well

WHAT THE FONT IS GOIG ON HEAR.TO BEE OR NOT TO BEE

Cocojoe,

IMO, if we replaced Ronnie Brown with Mark Ingram we'll see a much better performing offense next season. A better running game, via Ingram, would reduce 3rd and long situations for a young qb(Henne) which should result in more sustained drives.

Playaction would then work much better because we'll be in truer situation to run or pass. Playaction on 3rd and long is the silliest thing I've ever seen. It definitely wouldnt fool me if I were a defender. LOL

Odin....You said alot of good stuff, but I didn't see a clear answer to the question...could be these wacky fonts effing with my reading skills....

If I understood you correctly you want to play Henne till we find his replacement....is that correct?

Darrin, stability with results is 1 thing. Cowher always had good teams. As did Gruden, & Reid & Shula for that matter. They weren't always superbowl, but they were successful. They won & won consistently.

The men in place in Miami are Parcells hand picked guys. None of which would probably be in positions they are in now if NOT for Parcells name.

Their failures in personnel & poor performances are reason enough to be fired. If you looked at every FA signing & draft pick, you will find that the bad outweighs the good by a long distance.

What have they really done to merit them to be the stabilizing force behind the Doplhins? 11-5, 7-9 & on our way to similar finish this year. In 3 years, not much has changed. For me personally, with all the mistakes made, they do not merit longer tenures.

If keeping them around ensures this kind of stability & team, we're better off without it. Before some of these younger, talented players careers are wasted. You gotta know when to hold & know when to fold em.

Cuban. I know we had those chances. Why didn't we sign Brees? Because He is a proven QB that had a hurting shoulder. Instead We sign Culpepper that tore His knees and didn't do anything since Moss left him in Minnesota. I've always believed that Henne does not have the talent to be the starting QB. Matt Ryans rookie stats is way better than Henne stats this Year. Henne does not belong in the NFL He is a 3rd string only because no teams in NFL keeps 4 QB's lol. And for Grudden He is not that good of a coach as mentioned He inherited the team, Tony Dungy put that team together just like the next coach for the canes will have a good year because of the current players that the Canes have. Bill Cower is a great coach I would rather watch him develop Miami and watch them lose but we all know in the end we would end up with a good team and not go backwards. We went from winning the division to a 3rd place in our division only because the bills are rebuilding. Last thing please stop writing about playoff hopes there is non season is over. Mr Ross please use you money and fire the coach we have that jumps for joy every time we get a field goal like it won the game.

Bill Belichick's record after his first SIX years as an NFL Head Coach: 41-55

NOT comparing him to Sparano, but again I ask---how many here would have said "stay the course" had he put up exactly the same numbers in Miami?

I'm guessing pretty much zero (myself included) and have no problem saying anyone who claims they would have seen greatness on the horizon is lying through their teeth.

Boulder Fin Fan,

Nice! Voice of reason!

I'm a Michigan fan and in HINDSIGHT, I wish we had Matt Ryan right now. That is hindsight.

Reality is, could you imagine Matt Ryan playing behind this offensive line minus Jake Long?

I think Marino would've been hard pressed to find sucess behind that kind of line.

I'm with you, the HINDSIGHT stuff get aggravating after hearing it 10,000 times!

Amazing how Tom Brady landing in your lap after you and everyone else in the NFL passed him by for five rounds can suddenly make a guy regarded as a coaching failure a future Hall-of-Fame "genius," isn't it?

Henne wold look better if we had a better runing back???? is that runing back gonna throw the ball for him! Come on man stop it with that the only thing that will help henne is if throws the ball less and Henning call 60-75% of the plays RUN!!!!! we have Big Fast RB's why the hell arent we runing the ball much more case in piint the Bears game crazy dont put the game in henne's hand's

or any other QB on or roster!!

Mr.Stevens,Enjoyed your show and Samantha is super hot, But please refrain from mentioning the fist pumper with the cheater in the same post(Two different philosophies)(see nicknames).... Thank you for your cooperation.....

Joe Shmoe,

I totally agree. The Parcellians have brought just as much instability as they have stability. The proof in the pudding is a 6-6 record.

Stability = 6 wins.
Instability = 6 losses.

You dont need a gps device to figure out where are at present. "Middle of Pack."

miamifinatic, I don't know how you can consider this a great oline when from LG to RT is a question mark. If you hadn't noticed, our run game has sucked for most of the season. If you hadn't noticed, our TE always stays in to help block. These are NOT signs of a good oline. I haven't seen anyone on these boards proclaim this to be anything more than an average line, let alone great.

As far as talent, this team has Wake, Dansby, Marshall, Davis, Long & Bess. Maybe Randy Starks if he can play like he did last year. EVERYONE ELSE ON THE ROSTER COULD USE AN UPGRADE! Only 4 of those guys were found by this regime in 3 years & Long was a can't miss.

Safe to say, we see the talent on this team very differently.

Darrin...I agree with a lot of what you say...but these comparisons are silly....Belicheat was fired in Clevland and rightfully so!

Belicheat now has the best QB in the game playing for him and he is a WINNER...what was his recrd in NE with bledsoe...and how many SB did he win?

All the facts man...all the facts

I don't blame the owner for being displeased. The team lacks consistency, fails to do the little things like catching the ball (Brandon Marshall and the defensive guys dropping easy interceptions), and ultimately fails to make critical plays and continues to make boneheaded plays like Henne's game ending interception that handed the Browns the game. I'm pissed as a fan. My West Coast people ask me why I can't be a good loser. It's because my East Coast side hates the way my team is stinking up the joint. Where's the sense of pride and excellence? It's missing badly. As much as I support Sparano and Ireland, this is unacceptable.

Real Alaco...I agree Fake Aloco is funny....I think I like him better than the real Aloco...why don't you go take a nap...or cook something


FAKE ALOCO , I DECLARE YOU THE CUBAN MENACE .YOU FUNNY.AS LONG AS YOU KEEP IT CLEAN .

Posted by: ALoco | December 06, 2010 at 03:00 PM

Aloco, Please child...............

this

Glad you liked Samantha so much. She was VERY hot (her mother not so much)

But again--Belichick 41-55 his first six years. "Different philosophy" or not had he put those same numbers up in Miami there's noquestion in my mind nearly the ENTIRE fanbase would have been howliing for his dismissal.

Can anyone seriously deny that??

Odinseye,

Ryan is a little mobile than Henne and much more accurate throwing on the run. Henne's accuracy throwing on the run would probably be around 30%.

Still had we chosen Ryan, instead of using the 2nd rd pick on Henne that year we could have used it on a LT.

if we kept the same offense as last year and only changed the D we'd have the number 4 rushing offense and number 6 defense this year. Isn't that what the jets are doing? And they are winning.

No one is denying it Darrin...thats why he was fired in Clevland.....What was his record with Bledsoe and how many SBs did he win without Brady....thats the rest of the question....

like I have said many times...great players make great coaches....

I actually I have never said that...but now i'm saying it

Mr.Stevins, No question that Tom(Bunchen)Brady is the man in New England,Do you think Chad Henne is the next Mrs Bunchen??????????LOL

Killerdolphin,

Please dont kill me sir. I was only interject the fact that having less 3rd and long situations helps any young qb. Ronnie Brown is at most times horrible killer. I know you dont need me to tell you that because you've seen it with your very own eyes.

My primary point is that less 3rd and longs equal more MANAGEBLE situations for young qb's period. How many times have we seen Ronnie Brown ballerina his way to zero gain on first and second down. ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC!!!

WHY DID THE CHEEKEN CROS THE RAOD?,TO GET INTO MY POT FOR CHEEKEN STEW.TO BE OR NOT TO BE

If I understood you correctly you want to play Henne till we find his replacement....is that correct?

Posted by: Kris | December 06, 2010 at 02:53 PM

Kris, I did answer without answering didn't I. I re read my response and thought heck, I should have been a politician-LOL.

But yeah, until we find somebody better. Replacement isn't the perfect word for it, but yeah. I'm still hoping that the combination of Henne's growth and an offensive draft rivaling last years defensive draft, equals Henne getting over the proverbial hump.

That being said and as big as a Henne fan that I am, I was hoping Thiggy would come in and light the entire league up. Because ultimately I'm a Miami Dolphins fan and my biggest loyalty is to this team.

I'm doing it again, ain't I-LOL. How long would I stick with Henne? I don't think we'll find his replacement in this years draft. So I would look for a later round sleeper and let Brandstetter, Thiggy, the Sleeper and Henne battle it out. Considering our current predicament, I would give Henne 1 more year unless one of the aforementioned outplays him and outplays him big.

I don't know if this was any better but.........................

Agreed the players make the coach MUCH more than the other way around.

Belichick was regarded as nothing more than a fine assistant who was in over his head in the top job until Brady landed in his lap.

That's the way it works in this league.

I ((think)) Sparano has the right tempermant to get it done. I have NO doubt he doesn't have the right QB to get there, though.

Db, what LT's were drafted in the 2nd round that year that are starting in the NFL? None. Not 1 tackle drafted in Rd 2. 3rd round? None that start.

Debating or lamenting the Ryan/Long thing is useless. Long is a probowler & best LT in the gamne. Ryan, on this team behind this line with NO Long, would fare no better than Henne!

Be thankful for what we have!

Hard to be a fan of the fish these days...Head coach may not have what we need. When the watchful eye of Parcell left, the players lost the "fear". Head coach does not present the same "fear". Players are not playing near the level they should/could be.

As painful as it is to watch Henne play, he may just need more time. Offensive coordinator has not helped him much. Play calling is goofy.

Attended the win vs. Titans...even then, NO ATMOSHERE!! The stadium is deserted and their is no jump. Pathetic! Ross knows this...

Miss the Orange Bowl and the capabilities of a Shula...

$10 million a year for Cowher, 2 1st round picks and $150 for Michael Vick. If Ross really wants this fixed once and for all, he has to put his money where his mouth is.

Killerdolphin,

Seems it was at least 5 times the 5'11 190lbs Joe Hayden brought down the 6'0 235lbs Ronnie Brown on one on one tackles Sunday. Brown is Garbage!

THAT'S COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE!!!

Darrin...I agree with that


Odin...Poltician...lol..that is what it sounded like

Mr.Stevens,Tony(Fist pump)Sparano is nothing but a 8 and 8 coach at best,His coaching is a joke... Someone post on Craigslist a help wanted add..

Joe Shmoe,

One thing we can agree on is Matt Ryan seems to be doing just fine without Jake Long as his LT. Its a lot easier to at least find an adequate LT than a franchise qb. Agreed?

Now the font's back to normal. LOL

There have been a few gems but there have been so many big misses that it's amazing that Parcells still is perceived as a genius. What Parcells did to us is essentially the same thing Jimmy did to us with Wannstedt back in the day. See ya Henne, Sparano, Ireland don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

Please stop talking about how Henne would look good if....

No matter what you want to say, Henne looked like the worst QB in the league yesterday. Point blank. Ask Greg Z., I'm the biggest Henne supporter on here, defended him every second up until now.

But there are no words or excuses to make for yesterday's performance. And it wasn't WRs, it wasn't the defense, it wasn't the line. IT WAS HENNE! He may be lots of things, but he's 100% inconsistent, that's for sure.

When he's on, he's good. Could be very good. But when he's off, he's bad, very, very bad. And frankly, I don't know if anything would help (new scheme, new personnel, new brain).

I'm out of excuses for Henne and for this team. I'm still a supporter, but I'm not co-signing on ANYONE until I see some consistent play from this football team. That's the new DC line. Don't talk about it, be about it!

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