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Dolphins in the market for a RB and TE coach

The Dolphins don't just have one offensive coaching job to fill, they have as many as three because they are in the market for a running back coach and a tight end coach as well as a quarterback coach.

I have learned running back coach James Saxon is gone from the staff for reasons that, well, have to do with performance. I covered him as a running back with the Dolphins and like the man so I will not tell you he was fired. Let's say he simply has not been retained.

Tight end coach George Deleone is not on the Dolphins staff anymore, either. He was not necessarily terminated. He has been hired by the University of Connecticut as an assistant to former Dolphins defensive coordinator Paul Pasqualoni, who is the new head coach at UConn.

The Dolphins, who introduced new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll today, thus must still fill positions at running back, tight end coach, and quarterback coach, assuming Daboll doesn't coach the QBs. The Dolphins earlier parted ways with offensive coordinator Dan Henning and quarterbacks coach David Lee.

That means four of the six offensive assistants the Dolphins had when the 2010 season ended have moved on for one reason or another. Wide receivers coach Karl Dorrell and offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo are the remaining offensive assistants still on staff.

Saxon joined the Dolphins in 2008 after a six-year run as the Kansas City Chiefs running backs coach. This season the Dolphins running backs were a tremendous disappointment. Both Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown started the season with hopes of gaining 1,000 yards -- each.

Neither reached that goal and in fact both seemed to regress from previous seasons.

Brown gained 734 yards and averaged a career-low 3.7 yards per carry. Williams gained 673 while averaging 4.2 yards a carry. Interesting that both players are free agents and it is possible if not probable neither will be re-signed by the Dolphins.

 

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Marc,

I bashed Sean Smith just as much as anyone on here and he still gets beat but he did seem to significantly improve from last season to me. Those ints were dropped because the game is just a tad too fast for him still but when it slows down he has the hands to catch he just needs the game to slow down so his focus is there to make them ints. I think S. Smith and V. Davis are without question the starters for 2011. I do think Miami needs an upgrade at nickel. Im not sure where that would come draft or FA but Sapp stinks and Nolan Carroll might get better but he is much like Chris Clemons plays too fast again because game is too fast for them.

DC,there's always next year. Now you sound like a Leaf fan.

Dang kris, you keep banker's hours, don't you? 1:23pm, you in the army or something?

Joe, one reminder. Merling had the game-winning INT in that last game against the Jets to give us the division title and Playoff appearance. So, he did do 1 thing.

Posted by: DC Dolfan | January 20, 2011 at 01:23 PM

I stand corrected LOL

This is the problem on this blog. When the guys who actually know something about football say something, the experts here claim they know more. Sean Smith graded out as #8 based on number of plays he made vs. Other DBs. He dropped some INTs but those were also passes the offense didn't make big plays on. They threw at Vonte when Sean was on for a reason. Take your big swollen head off the blog and listen to what people who actually know football are saying

Agreed on how to beat last years defense. I just think with those four players returning and an infusion of a couple of free agents (Chad Greenway anyone?) that they can be pretty darn good. Not Elite, but legit top ten.

You saw Smith "out of position" or "trailing on almost every play??" What a hoot.

Had that been the case he never even would have been on the field.

That's not even CLOSE to reality. Smith was a dramatically improved player as the year went on. And he also has a rare combination of size and speed that makes him hugely valuable against bigger wideouts.

I get it. Fans make up their mind about a guy (good or bad) and then are loathe to change their opinion on them regardless of how well (or poorly) they are playing. But if you couldn't see how much better Smith was playing as the year progressed, I'd suggest some glasses to go along with those eyes of yours.

Mark, agreed on footwork. I wish we could draft a QB with footwork being the worst of his problems. That gets fixed year 1. Lack of leadership, poor improvisation ability, THOSE are hard to teach!

Any chance the Leafs ever lost 20 road games in a row? Introducing the Washington Wizards ladies and gentlemen. Take a bow!

I have made it be known I didn't care for S. Smith's effort. Late in the season I did see some improvement & more of a willingness to tackle instead of just absorbing someone running into him.

Clemmons however, please get an upgrade. Like someone else said, I have my own eyes. All I ever see is this guy trailing on every deep ball. If not for bad throws, this guy would have been toast 1-2 times every game. and in some games, he was! A guy with his size should NEVER be outmuscled on a jump ball by Chansi Stuckey!

Mark in Tor and GP,

Im with you guys on Mallet. I just don't think with Sparano needing to win now and for that matter Ireland having to win now they go QB in 1st round.

My father is Arkansas alum so we watch a lot of Arkansas games together. Mallet has flaws but he has "it" to me. His footwork is completely over analyzed. People say if you rush him up the middle he can't avoid the rush. That's false. He does a great job of manipulating the pocket. His biggest flaw to me is his greatest asset. Like most strong armed QBs he thinks he can fit the ball anywhere and in the NFL he will have to learn that closing speed on the ball is shorter then college. But I think he is going to be a good NFL QB. Granted I am slightly biased but I do like his abilities.

Joe, Smith can help himself by being more professional and taking the offseason training more seriously. He can still be very good if he puts in the time.

Great post Darryll.

Those same ranking sites listed POLITE as one of the WORST FB's in the league, and THAT is about as far from reality as possible.

Fasano was rated as the #3 TE in the league, but, I can think of about 10 other TE's I'd rather have before I can blink...

So, you can have you little ranking site stats...

"People say if you rush him up the middle he can't avoid the rush."

Isn't that what people said about Tom Brady when he lost the Superbowl in 2007?

Andy, who's better, Matt Jones, or Ryan Mallet?

Andy in NJ. I think that what Nolan did is remarkable. Turning a unit around in one year is difficult. Not that we are all the way there. Far from it. But I think a lot of fans see that the defense did it. Why can't the offense? And I'm not saying it can't. But it is certainly much more difficult to repair an offense, then a defense. Especially when you have a question mark at quarterback. The skill positions don't really matter if our quarterback gives the ball away like it's meatloaf at a homeless shelter. Offensive football is much more difficult to comprehend, and execute then the defensive side. It is much more cerebrial. Think about it. Nobody is up in arms about a wonderlicht(spelling??) score of a linebacker, or saftey. Yet a low score for a quarterback gets magnified, and anaylized like a presidential candidate. Add all of the obsticlals that we face this offseason(the CBA stuff ) and an offensive makeover becomes even more difficult. Like I said. Don't ignore the offense, take a guy in the first round, whatever. But why not try and complete the defense first, since it is much closer to being dominante.

Mark in Toronto, Pouncey is entering the draft as a center with the versatility to play guard. That's another reason why I think Sparano and crew grab him if he's there. A linemen that can play multiple positions is their M.O. AND once again Im pointing out this is where I think their heads are at, not where mine is.

Agreed on Clemons, btw. He needs to get a LOT better or will be a forgotten name soon.

Not at all worried about Smith with the int's. Good point earlier about young players needing the game to "slow down" a bit. He's already flying around the field (practically single-handedly won that Jets game with one huge play after the next). He was an interception machine at Utah. They'll come. The rest of his game is already pretty damn good.

Ryan Mallet hands down. Matt Jones was an athletic QB that's it. People were only enamored with him because he was white. If he was black they would of thought what's the big deal with this guy. He did have some decent years with the Jags but was never a 1st round talent at any position. Mallet to me is clearly at top #15 pick. Emphasis on the #15. I just don't think Miami goes QB in round 1 beacause they need to make playoffs or will be fired without question.

I'll take my "little ranking sites" over your bad eyesight.

Darryl, I agree. We've had better success with D players & the project is almost complete.

Even though we drafted mostly d in 2010, it only yielded 1 new starter. We got another via FA. Every other starter was already on this roster. To say we made over the whole defense in 1 off-season is simply false.

By all accounts, most would agree that we need a QB, 2 Rb's, a speed WR, a speed TE, LG, C, RG...

How can anyone compare finding 2 new D starters in 2010 to finding about 5-7 on offense? Not only is it highly improbable, it's also naive.

Just my 2 cents.

Our D is not as good as it was ranked this year imo. We got lit up by some good teams, and the D in the second half a few games had a tough time getting off the field. In my opinion we looked really slow at times.

I amintrigued by the VY talk here. I was totally against bringing him to Miami due to the fact that he seems easily distracted, and mentally a mess. He quit on his team once, and basically lashed out like a 6th graded a few times there.

Vick was insane in his own way but I never saw him quit or vocally lose it about his team.

I see the common factor of athletic ability. But I guess to the people who would like to see young here... Answer this for me.

Do you think it is a good idea to take a guy that has "quit under pressure and adversity" here in Miami especially now that there seems to be more adversity than anything? I am curious to hear responses.

Darryl D,

Agreed. Mike Nolan is one of those coaches who exposes another teams weakness as opposed to this is our philosophy and we are sticking to it. He tries to over load blitzes and move around his pass rushers rather then letting them stay just left and right side.

Mike Nolan did the same exact thing in Denver the previous season. He made Elvis Dumervil the focal point of his pass rush because he was the best pass rusher and the same for Cam Wake.

But Wake and Dumervil both lacked a pass rusher across from them so that is why both defenses were good but not elite. If Miami can get another pass rusher or if Koa Misi can figure out a few counter moves outside of a bull rush which didn't work then Miami's defense would take that next step. Need to add a free safety who is a STARTER too.

Joe fair enough. We will have to wait and see. But I hope I'm right, obviously me being right will be better for both of us! :)

Edds is supposed to be EXCELLENT in pass coverage and was supposed to be our coverage guy on TEs. They wanted Bell playing closer to the line and were going to use Edds on te coverage. We will have to wait and see on that one.

As soon as Merling came back he made an immediate impact in stopping the run. But I know what you're saying on him and you're right I shouldn't rely too heavily on him and his bad work ethic.

I know how we treated injured players with Parcells here and I'm hoping they rethink that a bit. Will Allen would make an EXCELLENT nickle corner back and would be an immediate upgrade over Sapp in my opinion (even at the old age of 31?)

And I think Odrick will help us get immediately better on the RE of the line. Starks,,I'm sorry but he didn't show up there this year. I liked what I saw from Odrick in his limited action. He set the edge well and had a fire I haven't seen on our line since Taylor was in his prime.

This is all opinion and like I said, I hope I'm right for the benefit of us all.

Well, we took Ricky back about 4 times and he quit on THIS team more than once!

Poizen--

I'm very leery of VY as well and think there's just as good odds that he flames out as getting it going again.

Still, IF Miami can land him as a FA without having to give up anything tangible aside from money I wouldn't be averse to that. Little risk involved.

Either way, I wouldn't let it change any plans to still draft a QB if they have a conviction on a guy that's sitting there.

I'm still convinced that our best strategy is to take the best player on the board the first 3 or 4 rounds of the draft (then you can take needs).. If that means Pouncey, Cam Newton, Mallet, or Ingram! All would be a definite up-grade for the team.

Joe lastly on that post you said the defense was ranked higher because of the back end of the season. I could be wrong and if someone has the stats please help out on this one but I remember about 7 or 8 games into the season the defense was ranked #4 in the league. Can anyone help out with a stat on that?

I'm still convinced that our best strategy is to take the best player on the board the first 3 or 4 rounds of the draft (then you can take needs).. If that means Pouncey, Cam Newton, Mallet, or Ingram! All would be a definite up-grade for the team.
Or, trade out of the #15 slot and pick up another pick in later rounds to make up for the one we're not gonna get in round 2!

Marc, Good Point, I feel like there was a difference between Vince and Ricky though. Ricky in the NFL led the league in rushing, and he never gave less than 100% no matter what on the field and kept himself in shape. I think that is the reason he got many chances. He also owed the Phins a crap load of money so that helped his decision. :) But still a good point.

A good nickle corner cannot be overstated. Old man Cochery almost single-handedly won the game vs the Pats in the closing minutes with his LONG YAC...He was the #3 WR.

Will Allen WOULD be an upgrade to Sapp, but, I belive they burned that bridge last year when they prematurely put him on IR

yeah kris dc told me they want a 1st for kolb so I'm out. Totally agree with your assessment in that case. I thought if we could get him for a 4th he would be worth the investment but they're out of their minds if they want a first after sitting him in favor of an injured Vick.

Joe S,

You're right Miami isn't going to be able to correct all their needs in one season. So scratch off LG and C because John Jerry will get another shot as will Incognito at C which the latter is mistake. Incognito is not athletic enough to play center. TE forget it Fasano is it for now. Which leaves Miami with dilemmas at QB and RB and speed WR.

This is why I say of the price is right or even of it isn't go get Vince Young if he wants to go to Miami. He has character and maturity flaws but as I pointed out earlier I think he could succeed.

RB - are a dime a dozen. They can be hit or miss like any position but much easier to find a starting RB then a starting quality QB.

WR - A guy who compliments Marshall with deep speed like Johnny Knox or Mike Wallace would be ideal but a lot of guys can run I think this is tougher to find then some think as well. I think Miami stays with the Marshall, Hartline, Bess trio for now.

You guys on the Mallet Wagon have conviction. That is cool. I'm not going to Hate on him(I've done that once today)And I have only seen him play in two games. Hardly enough to really give a fair examination. One of the games was the Sugar Bowl, and I went into the game with a complete open mind. This was hard because I had already decided that after the Alabama game that I thought Mallet was not going to be the answer. This is what I saw. Obviously Mallet didn't have the greatest game. and it would be easy to tear him apart after that game. Not fair, and I realize that. What bothered me was that he was only accurate out of the shot gun. I'm not sure if he completed a pass over 5 yards behind center. Also go back and watch(if you can) It wasn't the pressure up the middle that bothered him(IMO) but off the edges from both sides. He also got panicky in crisis(pressure) and pats the ball. His recievers did him absoloutley no favors. Some of those passes were very impressive. On the money, in tight spaces. Dropped. Not his fault. But all were out of the shotgun. This has to concern scouts. I don't know if this means anything, as scouting F.A.G.s(Football Anaylist Guys) and Mock drafts have Mallet going anywhere from top ten, to out of the first round. So I think this tells us that even the experts aren't settled on Mallet. I wish him luck, and would not kick and scream if we were to draft him. I just think IMO we should take a different route.

I really like Kolb and what I have seen. But I also agre that a 1st is just to much to give for him. and I agree with the point, If he really was that good, Andy would not have been so quick to bench him.

Phins78, statiscal rankings mean nothing. We were #1 after week 2 because of the teams we played, not because of how good we were. I put NO stock into the rankings.

I only look at bottom line results. Look at the game books of the Packers, Ravens & Steelers games as examples & look at how we got carved up.

Even Chicago didn't put up great numbers on us but our Defense was inept in trying to get off the field on 3rd down. Work needs to be done, that's all I'm saying.

be back later gotta do some work for a change.

Marc I respectfully disagree on the trailing theory. Every db trails the WR. A wr knows where the break is and the db has to adjust and stay close. What matters is closing speed and Smith broke up more passing plays than any other corner on the team. I'm not saying we can't upgrade the position for the now but I still think he has upside and may hit his stride next season. Lets wait and see and we will revisit this conversation then.

Poizen, I think VY was used to winning and being a force of nature. Then he came to the NFL, and was just a face. That probably got to him. Combine that with whatever internal problems he had with Fisher, and maybe that's why he quit.

But he supposedly has a good family structure. And I'm sure his agent and others (Texas coach maybe) have spoken to him, and told him he's close to wasting the best thing in his life. Combine that with being a year older, and I'm hoping he learned his lesson.

That's what I'm banking on. It would help if there were someone on this team that could take him under their wing (kinda like Dungy did Vick), but not sure Daboll is that guy or anyone would be able to do that. But, if there were, I think between them, his agent, him being older, him having failed for probably the first time in his life, and all that happened, he could be smart enough to know he needs to buckle down and do the right thing.

cmon guys collectively the dolphins had only 6 minus plays all season!

Marc Polite S.U.C.K.E.D last season. He missed more blocks than I care to remember. And that's what they grade FBs on. Blocks made, blocks missed, yards gained after first block, catches, then rushing yards. Polite excelled at none of those and was at the bottom of the league the entire season which also contributed to our 30th ranked rushing attack. He was nails in 09' disappeared last season. Love the guy, but he disappeared and even the analysts were commenting during a few games.

I'm actually more concerned about the mentality of this team than anything else right now. At the end of the season, they collectively gave up. They didn't even play for pride much less their coach. And, they started pointing fingers and throwing each other under the bus. Management's handling of the head coaching spot didn't help either. They bought into Sparano only after they couldn't find a replacement...WHILE he was still under contract! Does that make him a lame duck coach in the eyes of the players? Will the players buy into what he says in camp? Can they loosen up and have fun playing football again? Or, is everyone gonna be concerned about getting canned? They already played scared this year. Are they just not gonna care the next?

That's fine, but, until SEAN SMITH proves me otherwise I will think that he (STILL) stinks. If he even proves me wrong I'll be the first to admit it.

On that note, have you seen him and VD's tweets? Talk about a couple of ignorant brothers...

marc I promise to agree with your next post ;)
(I promise I'm not disagreeing just for the sake of disagreeing!)

polite did stink it up. he couldnt block a 5 year old dunking on a fisher price rim.

If Sean Smith spent less time tweeting & more time with a ball machine, he could be 1 helluva CB.

I told you marc! And I agree that those tweets are moronic. I had to stop reading them because I was losing faith in their intelligence. As in I started thinking they had none! But then I remembered that it's a cultural thing and sometimes I feel,,,,(In my opinion people!) that the black athlete is almost strong armed into putting on a certain type of persona around his peers. You never hear those guys talk that way around their Mothers! It's always around the guys or in tweets to mostly guys. They're immature and trying to impress. I don't read them anymore.

I can't even decipher their tweets most times.

I bet that the Phins re-sign Lex Hilliard to compete with Polite for the fullback spot next year. Hilliard has similar skills to Hillis, and could be used out of the backfield at fullback. He could add an extra dimension to the pass game. I don't think I can make an argument concerning Polites record of short down success. But I think Lex could do a good job in that area. I don't know how special teams players are rated. But Lex was also our top special teams guy.(I'm not sure that is a real honor, kind of like being the smartest guy in remedial class)

smith is an above average DB. If the kid could catch he would be a receiver. ill take a dropped int any day over 40 yard bomb.

Tracy all legitimate concerns except I wouldn't worry about the players not listening to Sparano. They showed they love the guy when he was being bent over by Ross. Most of the players regularly texted their coach in support. You have to remember Tony has ALWAYS had these guys backs. AS much as the media wanted him to bad mouth certain players and throw them under the bus he never did. He always kept that stuff behind closed doors and players really appreciate the hell out of that.

Here's a SEAN SMITH tweet

"Lol yall giving me mixed responses...I dont think ima mess wit it, what else is there???"

deca we're not here to make fun of our team. We are here to make fun of each other while also solving all of our teams problems. It's a whole process that we have going here. Call each other idiots, give our varying opinions on how to fix the team, then watch as the management does the exact opposite. Which then leads some of us to believe we can do a better job. Get on board would ya!? ;)

Marc, translation:

y'all (chicks) aren't responding to me appropriately (with the reverence I deserve as a professional football player). I don't think I'm going to ask you out on a date, is there anyone else I can have relations with?

You're welcome.

It is funny actuallu. Not sure if anyone remebers, But when we gave up on sam Madison we brought in wil allen... Anyone remember the big dig on Will Allen?

He couldn't catch the ball... it all comes full circle. :)

Poizen agreed 100%. IMO VY is a huge mistake for this team. People think he needs a change of scenery but moving to Miami from Tennessee for better scenery is like moving from the Colorado Rockies to Compton in LA. The scenery (offense,mngmt) sucks here.

Actually, I'm from the hood DC, don't need a translater ;) It was in response to his question about, the blockbuster "Lil Fockers", but, yours would have been a more entertaining scenario.

Poizen +1

The tweets are stupid but it's 2011, guys. White kids are doing exactly the same thing using exactly the same language.

These guys are in their early 20's and that's the culture today. I don;t expect them to be tweeting about Noam Chomsky or Chinese trade policy.

Could be marc. But I just read a story in dolphins digest written 3 weeks ago where Allen said he's really looking forward to getting back on the field with Miami this season and adding to VD and Smiths production. That told me that he's maybe already gearing up for the switch. And once again, I'm hoping the whole IR thing stemmed from Parcells. At least if they're smart they will blame it on him! Allen at Nickle would make me very happy.

Here's a good one from Will Allen:

willallen_25 Will Allen
Jets AFC championship gm again!! Something just isn't right. Is the world coming to an end?? Something's going on for sure!!! Imma HATER!!

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