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Cam Newton to Dolphins? Hard to believe

Heisman Trophy winner and National Championship winning quarterback Cam Newton announced Thursday evening he is leaving Auburn and will be eligible for this spring's NFL draft. And by this morning the buzz around Dolphins fans will almost certainly be that he's our guy!

The Miami quarterback issue will now definitely get solved because Newton is awesome and athletic and tall (no Chad Henne batted passes) and mobile and awesome and yippie!

Stop.

Newton is a great college football player. His 30 TD passes and 20 running TDs is testament to that. But I should not have to tell you college greatness -- especially when limited to one season -- does not certify NFL anything. It doesn't mean Newton will be great in the NFL. Or good. Or mediocre. Or ... anything.

Here is the truth about Cam Newton. Barring an electrifying spring in which he simply blows away at least one personnel man with full say over his organization and a draft pick before the 14th overall selection, Newton will be there when the Dolphins select in April's first round.

And if Jeff Ireland learned anything from mentor Bill Parcells, he probably will not select Newton. But, but, but why you cry aloud?

Because Newton doesn't fit the profile. He's played one season. That's a red flag or it should be. He's been all about the spread option formation and NFL quarterbacks have to be under center. There will be questions about Newton's footwork because of that system he played under, questions as fundamental as, "Can this guy operate under center?" 

There are also questions about whether Newton can read defenses. He didn't do very well in the one or two games he was presented with something other than a single-high safety read.

Was he a product of a great system? No, not entirely. The man is supremely gifted athletically. But is he Josh Freeman all over again? There are serious questions about that.

There are also serious character questions.

This from ESPN's Kevin Weidl:

"Newton was arrested while at Florida on a charge of possessing a stolen laptop computer; there have been rumblings that he had academic issues while with the Gators; and the NCAA investigation surrounding his recruitment out of Blinn College and the fact that his father was attempting to solicit large sums of money in return for Cam attending Mississippi State will all be investigated thoroughly by NFL teams.

The NCAA has cleared Cam Newton of any wrongdoing in the recruitment scandal, but the influence of his father will be a consideration for NFL decision-makers.

Something that bothers me: Newton, his dad, Auburn University and even the NCAA agreed that it would be best if Cecil Newton did not attend the BCS championship game between Auburn and Oregon. Auburn's Athletics Director even released a statement saying Newton was not at the game. And yet, several media outlets shot pictures of the two Newton men, father and son, in a celebratory embrace after the game on the field.

So much for the Newton family word.

The point is there are so many questions and flags here, I would not be surprised if Newton drops like a lead pipe in the draft. And I would not be surprised when the quarterback-hungry Dolphins pass on Newton and select other options.

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I am very impressed by Tim Tebow. Like always, I reserved judgment when they drafted him, reading about his mechanics and all the rest. But this guy lingered in my mind, that tremendous aura and winning attitude in College. Could Cam Newton be the same? If so, grab him.

When did we sign Tebow? Link?

Tebow became the first quarterback in NFL history to rush for a touchdown in each of his first three career starts.

still jealous?

Excellent post oscar canosa

FINALLY SOME INTELLIGENT LIFE ON THIS BLOG!

No to all 4 of the QB's. Ponder in the 3rd round with a VET coming in through FA.

We need to fix our OL some how, if there is no FA this before the draft then we need OL in the 1st round, so trade down and get back the 2nd round pick and draft 2 OL, cause our's suck...

We have no clue what to do without the CBA being resolved, so until that is done it's not likely we will have a clear direction one way or the other

Silk87,

I'm not sure Denver would want Henne. I wouldn't mind Orton as a Vet to get us over to who ever the future would be... But (and I can't believe I'm saying it) I'm not sure that I wanna give up on Henne.. I do believe with appropriate QB coaching he can be considerably better that he has shown thus far. We will absolutely not take a QB in the 1st.. if we stay @ 15 it will be a WR or OL. the latter which would not make most people happy. Expect a trade down as this will be the year that the rookie wage scale is put in place a higher picks will actually be able to be traded with a little more ease.

After I saw Marino come in and dominate the league he with a Wonderlik score of 12 or 16 obviously I started questioning that Test.

On October 17, 2010, Tebow scored his first NFL touchdown, which was a five-yard running play against the New York phooking Jets. On November 14, 2010, Tebow threw a three-yard touchdown pass to Spencer Larsen on his first career NFL pass attempt, as part of a 49-29 home victory over the Kansas City Chiefs. He also added a one-yard rushing touchdown in the game. His performance against the Chiefs earned him his first Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Week honor.

Hey aren`t the Chiefs & Jets that Tebow scored on in his 1st time taking the field 2010 NFL Playoff teams

Yeah, Thought So

Now, Get Your F!@#ing Shine Box!

Newton thinks the wonderlick is a never ending lollipop.

I think guys need to ease up on their praise for Tebow. He's done nothing yet. He's playing on a bad football team. Can we judge this guy after a couple of seasons before we annoint hime 'the next one'.

Poizen
Home got your "wonderlick"
Right here
Hanging nice & low

lol

I am a Tebow fan. He not only will put the time and effort in second to none he also talks the talk and walks the walk. When he gave that "you will never see a player, team play harder in the country" speech I though to myself how corny is this. And then he back it up and won the National Championship. Tebow has everything you want intangible wise in a franchise QB. He is a leader, gym rat, shows emotion and fire, tough and smart. He does lack certain passing abilities at this point but a lot of that can be coached and he isn't a me first athlete. He is a guy who is willing to do whatever for his team to succeed. He says it and means it unlike so many others. When Tebow talks he makes be a beleiver.

Ingram over Newton all day long!

Andy, agreed on Williams that he may command top dollar. But, the guy is fast and can score from anywhere on the field. You pay for that kind of skill. It's exactly what we need. He is in his prime also and aside from this year, even being undersized, he has proven durable with a big workload.

Oscar, if Miami brings back Mcdaniel, which I think they do knowing Merling & Langford's contracts are up next year, I think we can afford to lose either of them. Mcdaniel may have been our best DE in 2010. And on this team, they rotate them in & out all game. Neither plays that many more snaps than the other.

If you can trade one of those DE's to move up for a QB prospect you think is worth it, I wouldn't hesitate whatsoever.

They call you excellent if you agree with them,but if you don't, they call you trash. Ahh, Humanity.

NICE HOME!!! That one made me laugh, good comback!

Newton thinks the wonderlick is a never ending lollipop.

Posted by: Poizen | January 14, 2011 at 10:20 AM

LOL

I personally thing Michael Bush>Ingram

Home, you're a Retard! You throw out stats as though it's the end all be all... never mind the fact that Tebow has a completion percentage of 51%. or the fact that his team lost 2 of the 3 games he started... look at you argument from both sides man.

the thing you can not debate about tebow is his willingness to learn, his drive and his confidence.

Most athetes with that and average talent will be successful.

Zach Thomas is a good example.

Dave, good point. As Raheem Morris, and many other before him said, stats are for losers.

The Wonderlic is so over rated. Have you guys heard Emmitt Smith talk. Remember when he was on ESPN Sunday night football. It went something like this:

Emmitt: The Cardinal need a big game from Kurt Warners. He is they leader for sure. If Warners wins the game then the Cardinal do too.

The guy was illeterate but one of the best running backs to ever play. The Wonderlic means nothing.

Dolphins pick fifteenth in the draft and they don't have a second round pick to negotiate with. What chances do you think they have to get Cam Newton, even if they wanted to get him? I think close to zero, a mute point. Then, why is this a subject for conversation? Only because some journalist has to fill his space on a certain date.

What would be good for the team (forget about a QB, trade down and fill other needs) and what Ireland/Sparano will do are 2 different things.

Wouldn't surprise me to see them trade down and get 2nd pic back but their jobs are on the line and they know it. They have to win now.

I expect they'll try to get vet QB from another team by whatever means necessary. No matter what some think, even Sparano knows Henne is a liability.

01/09/2011 - PLAYERS TO WATCH: QB Colin Kaepernick has enjoyed a stellar senior season in guiding Nevada to its highest-ever ranking in the AP poll and a 12-1 regular season. In the regular-season finale, Kaepernick tied the record for most rushing touchdowns by a quarterback set by former Nebraska star Eric Crouch. Kaepernick has 59 rushing touchdowns in his career, passing former Boise State star Ian Johnson for the most all-time in the WAC. Kaepernick is the only player in college football history to pass for at least 9,000 yards and rush for 4,000 in his career.

Andy, you're talking about a RB though, not a QB. Rb sees a hole & shoots through it. Physical skill trumps mental skill.

BTW, yes, Emmitt Smith sounds like a moron when speaking. Steve Young too for that matter, but that's more a result of so many concussions.

Mental competence is probably the most important thing a Qb can possess. I don't think it's as true for RB's.

Yeah, Joe, I forgot McDaniel. Still, Odrick is unproven and with the rotation, they need all the bodies they can get. If Odrick proves himself(which I believe he will) then, yeah, you can trade either one of them(Merling, Langford). All of us want a second round pick(including the Administration) but have to be careful how to go about it.

Joe S,

You are right the QB position and RB positions are different and maybe not the best comparison but someone pointed out our guy Marino wasn't so hot on the test. I just don't think it is the end all be all test of test.

Someone wrote on here that Ronnie Brown did not have good vision, instincts... and a few other things.

That is the farthest thing from the truth.

2 years before he got injured he was leading the NFL in rushing, you can't do that if you do not have those skills.

Last year was a disaster with the o-line and play calling. the only thing ronnie could do was run into the back of his o-linemen and pray they push.

Poizen, I don't dislike Tebow. He is a busta$$ worker and he will do everything in his power to succeed. Just pointing out some of the ignorant data thrown out by someone.

The WONDERLIC is just a test of your common sense. It is just for gauging whether or not your an idiot, not to evaluate if you cant play football. Besides back 10+ years ago these guys(draftees) weren't taking the tests nearly as serious as they are today.

I don't think Dan Marino was the sharpest knife in the drawer and conversely Jason Garrett went to Princeton. Go figure... It's about instincts, preparation and and just how good you are at football.

Oscar, I don't care about the #2 at this point. I don't want them to trade a DE for a 2nd round pick.

I want them to use their #15 & one of those DE's to be able to possibly move up in the 9-14 range to be able to get a QB they feel good about that doesn't have as many question marks as Newton.

Even though I'm a Schmoe, I still think I can score at least a 10 on the Wonderlic.

Steve Young wasn't the shiniest of Bulbs, either.

Brad Childress will be Miami's next offensive cordinator.

Childress who is a West Coast guy also knows how to run the ball and is another guy who preaches ball security like Sparano.

Childress was the offensive cordinator at Wisconsin in the late 90's when Ron Dayne was there carrying the ball 30 and 40 times a game. He knows how to call to his teams strengths.

He moved onto Philly where he was both offensive cordinator and QB coach for the Eagles and made McNabb who ran a version of the option at Syracuse into a Pro Bowl QB who led his team to 5 NFC Championships and a Super Bowl. Over a span of 7 years McNabb threw 134 TDs and only 76 ints. Not only did he develop McNabb but had one of the top offenses in the leage year after year.

Childress can adapt his playcalling and scheme to fit the team he is calling plays for. It don't get any different then Wisconsin smash mouth and the West Coast offense and he was successful at both places.

I am on board for Childress.

For all we know Newton could be a very bright guy. Just don't see how you attack someone whom you've never met or talked to. Rothlisberger seems to be as dumb as a sack of rocks but he's a baller.

OK, Joe, I got your point.

dave...dave...modify the Wonderlic.

If they wind up not trading up or down, I would hope they draft the best guy available. Aside from a DE, Punter or Kicker, they can select just about anyone & I'd be happy.

Andy,

I would be fine with Childress too. I think he's a pretty accomplised OC. I just wonder if he'll actually come or if he's just exploring his options. Apparently he still gets paid $3 million this year even if he takes the year off and he may choose to take the year off to recharge. Who knows?

You know Joe, I think that "draft the best athlete available" is a cop out for not knowing WTH you are doing. Shula in his later years preached that Sermon, and he was wrong. You draft to your needs and if you can't get your needs filled then get out.

I agree, NOT Cam Newton! NOT Ryan Mallett -- too much like Henne! NOT McNabb -- he is washed up! NOT Young -- he is too much of a headcase and gets injured!

I say trade down and take a OL in the 1st and Daniel Thomas (RB) in the 2nd. Then, take Andy Dalton (QB of TCU) in the 3rd or 4th. The guy is 6'3", 220 lbs, >66% completion for >9 YPA (93 yd long), 27 TDs (+ 6 TDs rushing) with only 6 INTs, started all 4 years, captain as a senior, graduated from college, won the Rose Bowl against a hot team, was 25-1 over the last two years, doesn't get injured, and is an intelligent & humble kid.

Good QBs are not only found in the 1st round! Just don't waste another second rounder on one! And, yes I would settle for a "good" QB at this point, not necessarily the next coming of Marino!

Wonderlic - composed of 50-questions and administered in 12 minutes, assesses a player’s overall aptitude, and is especially important for quarterbacks, offensive lineman, and linebackers who must make quick decisions.

Funny how all the top scorers are in the playoffs this year.

Now tell me the test is useless...go ahead!

Garrard = 14
McNabb = 14
Young = 16
Henne = 22
Tebow = 22
Favre = 22
Pennington = 25
Cutler = 26
Flacco = 27
Brees = 28
P. Manning = 28
Hasselbeck = 29
Ryan = 32
Brady = 33
Rogers = 35
Eli Manning = 39


Craig M,

Yeah same here. Like Childress. Philly was at it's best with Childress and he that was when their receivers were Pinkston, Freddie Mitchell, James Thrash, Chad Lewis for most of them years. And the 2 years with T.O. as well. Look at Philly without Childress they havn't won a playoff game since he left.

The Eagles have more weapons now but the last 2 seasons have been so predictable. If you shut down the big play, you win more then not. When Childress was there you didn't know where the play calling would go. The only knock is he didn't run the ball enough but that was Andy Reid's call not Childress. The Vikes were a Brett Favre brain fart away in 09 from the Super Bowl and Childress would most likely still have a job.

If you have an accomplished coaching mind on the fold like Childress don't stall. Offer him a contract. Nothing you can do if Childress isn't interested in Miami but if you are Miami you make him an offer.

Nobody said it was useless, NH, is just not reliable.

Cam Newton has bust written all over him. He can't read college defenses much less NFL defenses, he is arrogent and dishonest, and he is so physically gifted he hasn't ever had to study the game.
Another JaMarcus Russell or Vince Young or Ryan Leaf. I wonder if he gets more than a 9 on the wonderlick test.

I bet, Terry Bradshaw, maybe, with help, would score a 5 on the Wonderlic Test. The 4 guys in the playoffs also have numerous weapons around them. It's not that important if u ask me

Massanuttenref,

I don't like Daniel Thomas at all. He is too much of a one cut and go runner. He don't make anyone miss. He runs into guys and falls. He may fall forward but not agile enough to make someone miss and keep going. Don't Miami have that already with Ricky and Ronnie.

If Miami don't take Ingram which they probably won't and they trade back to the end of round 1 I would take Ryan Williams in second. He has more upside then any RB in this draft. He didn't have a great season but was injured most of the year with Va Tech.

Question on Childress, yes, he has success in Philly BUT wasn't Andy Reid the one who actually called the plays?

I tell you, most People in Internet have to learn to not be drastic in your comments. Do NOT say, all of you, rather say, most of you,etc. If you don't, they will hang you to dry.

Im with you bobbyd12. I don't care what a guy scores on the Wonderlic.

MassanuttenReg
Don't be dumb, can't find a QB in the 1st round?! Look at the playoffs teams....Rodgers 1st, Ryan 1st, Cutler 1st, Big Ben 1st, Sanchez 1st, Flacco 1st, Brady is the only anomaly. Stop being blind. Franchise QB are found in the 1st Rd!!!!! If we think one of these guys are franchise worthy we better pull the trigger. Dolphins need to be relevant again especially in the AFC East.

We better look at Blaine Gabbert or Jake Locker. Those two will be the steal of the draft.

Chad Pennington=25. heehee

Why do some of you people try to convince yourselves (and even more laughably others) that you know ANYTHING about the draft?

The truth of the matter is that you have absolutely no idea whatsoever how ANY of these players will do.

Frankly, when I read someone going on and on about how a college guy will (or won't) produce at the pro level I know I'm reading the words of a fool.

Ok so Home would have taken Tim Tebow & Cam Newton as Dolphin QBs

U got Pat White & Henne?
Remember Henne had a QB rating of 21.9 at the end of Q1 in his last game
Now take into consideration if a QB has only one play and throws the ball in the dirt his QBrating is automatically 39. something, almost 40 for dirt ball incomplete pass

Any Questions!?

Miami Dolphins #1 draft pick 2011 QB Cam Newton

bobbyd12,

yeah I think Reid did take over play calling duties when T.O. came aboard and had a lot of say in the play calling. Nonetheless Childress had a lot to do with the success of the Eagles in those years.

For everyone giving Henne the pass because of bad coaching from David Lee and Henning wouldn't have anymore excuses with a guy like Childress.

We better look at Blaine Gabbert or Jake Locker. Those two will be the steal of the draft.

Posted by: nickybarto | January 14, 2011 at 11:10 AM

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And you know that because of what, exactly? You've heard of them and seen them on tv?

Uhhhh.....Plaxico Burrass

Leaving prison in time for the 2011 Season.
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Puff

Childress may soon be Miami Dolphin`s OC
and will def IMO be an Improvement

Think this guy will open up the offense


Expect news that Childress will sign w Dolphins
even though he does not need the cash
(gonna get 3 million by Vikes regardless if he just plays golf for a year)

Good work, If u can get It

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