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Sunday offerings: Shula's thoughts, crazy fact about Tomlin

DALLAS -- Super Bowl Sunday and this one feels different because it will not only signal the end of the NFL season (never a good thing) but could signal the final NFL game for a long, long time unless the players and owners find a way to forge labor peace.

Some things, however, do not change.

One thing that hasn't changed for some time is how former Dolphins, or players the Dolphins should have drafted or signed or kept come to this game wearing another team's uniform. Today's game is a reminder of a coach that might have led the Dolphins starting in 2007 if the powers that be would have made a different decision on him.

Yes, Mike Tomlin might have been the Dolphins coach if the folks who interviewed him for the Miami job in January 2007 would have seen what the Steelers eventually saw only days later.

Instead, you'll flip when I tell you what the folks interviewing Tomlin for Miami saw instead. It borders on racist, actually.

If you follow me on twitter you know I spent some time with coach Don Shula this week. He's the best, and not just because his number of victories say he is.

Shula is a lot of things to the Dolphins these days. No, he doesn't make decisions or have any say over the roster as he used to. But he is still the compass that tells us if things are right or wrong with the franchise.

And, like many of you, Shula found the 2010 season to be a disappointment for the Dolphins. My Sunday column basically gives Shula the floor. And he shares his thoughts on Chad Henne, on the manner Stephen Ross handled the flirtation with Jim Harbaugh, how that affected Tony Sparano, and what the organization can do from this point forward to overcome its hardships.

Shula also shares one time when his relationship with then-Dolphins owner Joe Robbie was much more tense than Sparano's ever got to be with Ross following the Harbaugh debacle.

I'll be doing a live Super Bowl blog from Cowboys Stadium this evening. It is the only live blog from this venue on this site. So accept no imitators. See you then.

 

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First... Wow always wanted to do that.

But armandouche will always be #1!

31-38 Packers

I agree Miami should have hired Tomlin as a young up-and-coming head coach, but he would have never had the success in Miami as he is having in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is one of the top 4 organizations as far as selecting it's players. New England, Baltimore, & Philadelphia also come to mind. Miami was 1-15 & probably an overwhelming endeavor for just about any coach in his first season in charge. He should thank Miami for passing on him.

So what was the "borderline" comment(s)?

This FO and Org. has made so many mistakes..how can the fans and media see before the FO got rid of some of these players that it was a bad idea...that goes for drafting and overall player evaluation?

Some on here always say.."you guys are in a blog, what do you know"..and "the coach's know best", or my favorite one "if you know so much how come you arent the GM or HC"? ...yadda yadda yadda!
Last time I checked you don't need to be highly educated to coach any sport. So do you think Captain Fist Pump just because he is an NFL coach that he is smarter than a Princeton grad????
I think not...and no you don't have to grad from an ivy league school either to be smarter..I've heard many people on here that are being real and have a great grasp on things... So those of you whom say these things.. I say STF-Up! Yes I and many others here could make better decisions than our FO Clowns!

I love Shula too..I wish we could place him in Ross's position..and loose Ross for good. Shula would fire Ireland and Tony in a second..he might not say it now from where he is currently, but I bet he has said it at his home...

Henne too, Shula doesn't like him and he knows he isn't the QB of the future..

Get a great QB and some playmakers..and spongebob could be the HC and we would win...

For all you Henne blind faith lovers, right from the kings mouth, pay attention:

Shula doesn’t understand why Henne failed to progress in 2010. Now, he shakes his head.
“He’s been around long enough now to come into his own if he’s going to do it,” Shula said.

Love Coach Shula and everythig he represents.

That said, I've been a Dolphin fan FAR too long to pretend and/or forget how it ended with Shula.

You wanted him out and Jimmy in just like all the rest.

It amazes me how many Dolphins fans forget all that or pretend it didn't happen.

Huizenga dumped Shula and brought in Jimmy mostly BECAUSE of all the fan pressure to do it.

And just look where it all ended up.

Fans are idiots. Good for teams like the Steelers that NEVER listen to them.

Wish Miami had done the same way back when.

Yes I and many others here could make better decisions than our FO Clowns!

Posted by: cowkilla | February 06, 2011 at 05:44 AM
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No you couldn't.

But it's a fun game fans play without any real consequences.

Green Bay wins easily today.

34-17

Pittsburgh wins easily today.

34-17

Green Bay wins today.

2-1 in overtime.

I'm really not even sure what "he's too hip-hop means." Sounds like some ignorant sh*t if you ask me (racist or not). Miami has been on a downward spiral in hiring personnel since Shula decided not to groom a successor for Marino. The demise of the Dolphins started with that decision. All the way up to today, Miami's been grasping in the dark with no real idea what they're doing. These last few years have been better, but not without glaring mistakes. Pat White was a glaring mistake. If anyone ever personified why a successful college option QB doesn't translate to the NFL, it was Pat White. The kid was quick, not fast. And when he came to the NFL, his quickness was neutralized.

Miami needs to learn from their mistakes. Stop being too late to realize when it's not working, too hesitant to change. You don't need track athletes (Ginn) or slight QBs (Beck, White), you need "football" guys. Guys who live and die football. With "football" intelligence. Get a team of those guys, and you'll go far.

Here's one area where Miami can change. They say they realize they need speed. They say they know their offense needs to evolve. Yet, if they draft Mark Ingram 1st-round, they'll basically be saying we want our run game to be similar to the last decade (up the middle, hard running, short gains). A team wanting to evolve will look for more speed out of the skill positions.

DC everything you said above has been said, reiterated, debated, stated, and restated thousands of times already over the last few months. We get it. We know it. Most of us agree except for the few sissy bloggers who cry when someone is critical. No need to keep pounding stone endlessly on the same old arguments.

"Instead, you'll flip when I tell you what the folks interviewing Tomlin for Miami saw instead. It borders on racist, actually."

Armando- The word "Racist" is one of the most tired and overused words in the English language. The definition of racism is to think that one group of people or "race" is better than another. The Dolphins might have been guilty of BIGOTRY but not racism. But it is hard to think of an NFL team being guilty of that either when the majority of players are black superb athletes.

Hitler was a racist. The KKK was racist.

Just a thought.


Its that same old school, conservative, biggotted (alex) thinking that still has us playing 1990's football.....while the good teams are playing 2010 football....and the championship teams are blazinging a path to 2015.....

"to hip-hop"...that about sums up the thiking of this organization....its that kind of mindset that will make you ask the question "is your mom a prostitute".....

Its that kind of thinking...... that will have you run one of the top play making FS back to Pitt....when he was all ready to sign here....

Its that kind of cave-man rhetoric that will get you back to back 7-9 season's......

I understand that the statment wasn't made during the Parcells/Ireland regime....but the above post is just futher proof that the mindset continues...

darrilo, agreed, but you know what, no one's listening. The team engages in the same mistakes over and over again. So I figure be a broken record about it until someone finally figures it out.

I really can't stand by and say nothing year after year on this day, thinking how miraculous it would be if my team was in the big game. I'm sick of some other team getting the glory. Can't wait until the game's over.

DC....kepp pounding the drum...change doesn't come from the mute.....it comes with a roar.....like from a lion...or waves crashing against the beach....it doesn't come from the timid feild mouse....

Mr. Ross heard your/my/this blogs/the fans displeasure thru some type of outlet...his attempt to upgrade the coaching postion wasn't mere coincidence.....he heard the fans.....maybe not on here....maybe it was the boos at the stadium...maybe it was the polls in the newspaper....maybe he just spoke to some joe's at a coffee spot...but in any case he heard our (FANS) displeasure and tried to fix things.....

Never be silent DC.....the squeaky wheel gets the grease....EVERY TIME!

Darrillo is right.....most on here do understand except for a few poster's.....and as much as they might like to spin it......

Ross sided with the majority of fans who wanted change

He openly interviewed another coach

He publicly stated he wanted a more dynamic offense

I think its pretty clear he is tired of losing......and new contract or not....if we don't make the playoffs.....I believe Tony, and his staff will all be out of here.

kris------from ur mouth to the big guys ear

Arron Rogers .............. SB ring .

kris, Jesse Jackson got nothin' on you dude. You got me all pumped up.

ALoco, you off today for a day of rest?

Depressing. Terry, Howie and Michael on Fox News Sunday, saying they think the lockout will go into the season. That would be a lost season, and also ensures Chad Henne is QB since he's the QB Coaches are the most comfortable with.

This is among the worst possible years to have a lock-out if your a FIN FAN....

Not set at the QB postion.....

No starting calibur RB signed

thats 2/3rds of your skill postion....and you can't even work anybody out to see who replaces them.....

If we draft a 1st RD TALENT rookie QB....he will probably hold out until the week before the 1st pre-season game....therby throwing away his chance to start day 1....or even challenge Henne for the postion......

It looks like more of the same...

Maybe we win the close games this time instead of losing them...then were 12-4....11-5

First and foremost we need leadership at the very top. Well, Ross is not a true football owner, like Kraft and Rooney are, so little hope there. He likes Ireland, probably Parcells had something to do with that, and probably Parcells pulled the plug on Sparano, rightfully so. One thing about the Tuna, he is loyal to nobody. I still can't understand why he didn't bring Rex Ryan in if he was so high on him. Maybe Sparano was the perfect yes man for him at the time.

Until Ross brings in a HC with brains, an HC who has the experience and knowledge to oversee the coordinators, something Sparanderthal is truly incapable of, we can't expect much. I can't imagine TS taking a team to the SB, or ever getting another HC position. His brain spins at 3RPM while the rest of the world is going at 100RPM. It's painful to listen to him ramble on without ever saying much. If Ricky and JT found him tiresome, most likely the whole team does.

What sucks is that it doesn't feel like next year will be a new year for us, it feels more like a wash year, let TS fail, clean house, start anew. With so many needs, so few draft picks, and a shiny new inexperienced offensive coaching staff, its hard to see this team having much success next year.

TONY SUCKS: AND ARMANDO'S WRONG

IT'S NOT JUST THE HIS EXCITEMENT ABOUT FIELD GOALS BUT HE LACKS THAT IT FACTOR.

I'M NOT THE TYPE OF GUY THAT DOESN'T GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE, OR A SECOND FOR THAT MATTER.

WHEN YOU HAVE THE TALENT THE DOLPHINS HAVE YOU SHOULD DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

ARMANDO:

YOU SAID IN A POST THAT THE FINS WEREN'T CLOSE.

THEY WERE IN EVERY GAME THIS YEAR EXCEPT TWO.

WE BEAT THE JETS AND PLAYED THEM CLOSE IN THE OTHER.

PIT WAS A CLOSE GAME.

YOU SAID WE BEAT THE PACKERS WHEN THEY WERE HURT.

BUT THEY HAVE 17 PLAYERS ON IR AND STILL IN THE BIG GAME.

NO THEY ARE NOT A GREAT TEAM BUT THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABOUT 10 PLAYS FROM GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS.

I DO AGREE THAT WE NEED SOME STABILITY ON THE TEAM IF THEY ARE TO GO ANYWHERE AND THAT'S NOT JUST THE COACH BUT AT QB ALSO.

I "LOVE" THE FACT THAT ROSS DID WHAT HE DID.

HE SHOULD HAVE STOOD BY HIS GUNS.

HE WANTS A WINNER.

WE WANT WINNERS.

I'M SURE TONY WANTS TOO ALSO BUT IF HE CAN TAKE A PLAYER OUT THAT IS UNDERPERFORMING THEN THE SAME SHOULD APPLY FOR HIM.

ANYBODY WHO WATCH THE GAMES CAN SEE TONY DIDN'T HAVE HIS HAND ON THE PULSE OF THE TEAM.

HE DON'T IMPROVISE.

HE STICKS TO THE GAME PLAN AND HOPE IT WORKS.

IF IT'S NOT WORKING HE FORCE IT.

IF IT'S WORKING FOR SOME REASON HE TENDS TO STRAY AWAY FROM WHAT WAS WORKING.

THE TEAM LACKS EMOTION OUTSIDE OF MARSHALL AND WAKE.

OH AND TONY ON MADE FIELD GOALS.

BUT WE ARE A GOOD TEAM AND I STILL BELIEVE WE ARE ON THE BRINCK OF GREATNESS.

I DON'T LIKE TONY'S PERSONALITY AND A TEAM TAKES THEIR COACH'S PERSONALITY.

TONY COULDN'T GET THE STEELERS OR PACKERS TO THE PLAYOFFS LET ALONE THE BIG GAME.


KRIS:

ROSS DON'T HAVE TO HEAR FROM US. HE WOULD BE ONE STUPID MOTHER?%$# IF HE COULDN'T CALL THAT ONE HIMSELF.

STEVIE WONDER CAN SEE THE TEAM NEED A BETTER COACH.

To Hip Hop???? At that point just come out and say what you are really thinking.

Everyone wanted Shula gone, everyone wanted Marino to retire...Not everyone and as fans everyone has a right to express what they would do if they were running a team.

As a writer, the Herald should demand and print those sources who said we didn't hire Tomlin for racist reasons. I refuse to believe it. THE HERALD SHOULD DEMAND, SINCE IT IS A TRUE STORY ACCORDING TO THE AUTHOR, THAT HE TELLS THE READERS WHO SAID IT. IF HE CAN'T PRODUCE THE NAMES OR WHEN IT PROVES FALSE, ARMONDO SHOULD BE TERMINATED.


This race baiting by writers without proof and with no consequences for lying must stop.

sparano is the 4th best coach in our afc east division. bellichek and ryan are miles ahead with forward thinking and chan gailey over-achieved bigtime with their complete lack of talent. he had the guts to bench,then trade trent edwards. the bills scored over 30pts more often than us;then beat us in our house!

I don't think the credit should go to Tomlin... He has 2 great coordinators doing the dirty work... their defensive coordinator has 30 years with them.. In comparison, we've had like 30 different coordinators.

and their philosophy as far as drafting, re-signing their players, and signing free agents is totally different from ours.

give us those steelers coordinators and their QB, and we'll go to the superbowl with Sparano..

The only benefit I can see from this current FO and coaching crew is that we should get a great draft position next year.

Whith Tony and company likely gone before the season is out next year we may have a shot at Luck or another franchise QB picking that high.

dc,

i am off to work at 12;30 to make more money to support all the unemployed fans like DC,CUBAN AND DAYING BREEAD...

SUNDY'S OFFERING .... SOUND LIKE WE R IN A CHURCH ,ISN'T IT ?

Pitt wins tonight, 30 27...and Miami goes 10 8 next year.

And wins first series in playoffs, but doesn't get to the SB for another 2 years, give or take a decade...

I smell a fish-fry.

GulfDolphin,

do you read coffee cups ? i want you to see if i will be a millinore in 5 years .

DCdolfan,
Think you might want to straighten out your facts. It was J.J. who didn't want to groom a Q.B. when he took over in 96. He switched to a running game and drafted a jackass named Jabar. With the best passer of all time ( marino ) he took away his weapons and and tried to have a ground attack.He and Marino couldn't get along because obviously Johnson new how to play Q.B. better.JOHNSON had 3 years to groom a new Q.B. F'ed up the Dolphins then named Wanny the Excuser as his heir to the throne!Johnson not SHULA!!!

Tomlin is miles ahead of Sparano. Give the guy some credit. It is laughable whenever a coach, or player is discredited because of the people he is surrounded by. It is foolish to say that Sparano is anything more then what really is. We don't know if plugged into a different system, with different coaches if he could lead a horse to water, let alone a football team to the Super Bowl. Tomlin came into a great situation, no doubt. He isn't the first guy to draw this card. If he wins today he will be the youngest coach to win 2 Super Bowls. He deserves some credit.

fins,

do you call what the fins doing right now is a grooming a QB in henne ?

if so ,why are we not happy, then doing what J.J didn't do ?

Packers 45 Steelers 24. Charles Woodson knocks Rotenburger the fk out. I always loved Don Capers D. It's going to fun to watch.

I'm as big a Marino fan as anyone, but the fact is, he was just a shadow of himself in his final years. He was never fully the same after that Achilles injury, and then I believe he had some neck injury. He got jumpy in the pocket and was just not throwing the ball like he used to. It really was time for him to retire. Shula wasn't really forced out either. It was a question of bringing in some new coordinators and starting fresh or just stepping down after a long run as HC. He was getting tired, it showed. Maybe he was gently nudged, but he could have stayed longer had he wanted to. Sometimes you just need change. I never was a fan of JJ coming here, it never felt right. He gave up pretty quickly, once he realized his ego alone couldn't win a SB.

So basically all it said was the coach is only as good as the team he has...capers bad with Miami, good with GB. Tomlin good with Steelers - a top team before he got them and Sparano so so with dolphins, a weaker team.

wow, now that is some major reporting there.

Loco,
I've been writing for weeks that Henne is not the answer and there is no light at the end of that tunnel, but everyone on here loves him. What I wrote about had nothing to do with now or Henne. DC needed to get his facts straight and not blame Shula for the state of the Fins now when in fact their demise started with J.J. just check the stats. Under Shula the Fins had the highest win % in all of Pro sports. Check the facts!!!

While good players do make the coaches look good, a good coach knows how to get the most out of what he has. Sparano only knows how to get the least out of what he has, and that is the difference.

0x80,
Marino wass more than nudged. I was at all the games when J.J. and Marino were on the team and when the offense was not on the field Johnson and Marino would stand on opposite ends! In their practices they didn't even bother much with one another. The town was big enough for Johnson and Marino. Guess that wht there's a J.J.statue at the stadium on Marino Drive :)

Meant not big enough!

This is what is laughable...Guys here killed Gruden because in his first year he won the Super Bowl with the Bucs. But they were all Dungys players. He never again reached that promised land so he naturally is "overrated" Tomlin Wins the Super Bowl in year 2. Gets back to the Super Bowl in year 4. Now it is the orginization, and his coordinators. Naturally he too is "overrated" What is the standard? Should a coach do this all by himself with substandard players to be a great coach?

This just comes across as envious whinning. I bet if we put Chad Henne in the Packer offense, they get to the Super Bowl right?

FINS...I said Shula was nudged...Marino/JJ was really a different story. JJ wanted Marino to play the same way he wanted Damon Huard to play, ultra conservative.

Don Shula has always been a Father figure, at least for me.

next season everyone will see it once again that sparano is a bad coach, and he is not capable of winning anything. then the ferris wheel will continue to go around and around with the same old sh$t just like it does each and every season. the dolphins organization gets what they deserve!

If getting fired while you're playing golf is nudged then I guess it was.

One more thing: I keep hearing "everybody wanted Shula fired". Really? I live here and I don't remember it that way.

FINS,

YOU DID HAVE AN ISSUE WITH J.J NOT GROOMING A QB BUT NOW WE ARE WITH HENNE .HOW YOU KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK WITHOUT GIVING A CHANCE ?

First of all 0x80 my appologies. Loco Henne is not and cannot be groomed. He's played in the NFL for 3 years!

Aloco, does Don Shula's opinion carry any weight:

Shula doesn’t understand why Henne failed to progress in 2010. “He’s been around long enough now to come into his own if he’s going to do it,” Shula said.

Man, I can't analize anymore. Here it goes, Pitt by 3(based only on QB, Coach).

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