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Dolphins: Palmer best of possibly available QBs

NEW ORLEANS -- Carson Palmer.

That’s the name. That’s the player. That’s the veteran, perhaps the only one, you must watch if you’re a Dolphins fan and have hope your team can find a game-changer quarterback whenever the NFL returns to the field.

Palmer is the one veteran quarterback in whose availability the Dolphins would almost definitely show interest.

I must, for clarity’s sake, stress there is absolutely no certainty about Palmer’s availability now. He doesn’t want to return to Cincinnati and says he’d rather retire than play for the Bengals again. The Bengals swear he’ll play for them or retire. No one knows who will blink first.

That’s not the point. The Dolphins and all quarterback-hungry teams have to consider all the possibilities this time of year. Failing to do so is simply failing to do the job.

So general manager Jeff Ireland and coach Tony Sparano, scouts and anyone else with a voice within the organization, must know which veterans could be available when the lockout ends. And Palmer is atop that list of possibilities for Miami.  

The others on the list of possible available QBs – Kevin Kolb, Vince Young, Donovan McNabb, Kyle Orton, Alex Smith – also have to be considered. But none of them rate higher than Palmer. All the others have been identified by the Dolphins as a group of has-beens, or a could-bes, or a never-weres.

That long list of names is short on certainty.

Palmer is different.

Carson palmer He’s unquestionably better than Chad Henne. He’s not Tom Brady, but he’s head-and-shoulders above the other quarterbacks who might become available. He’s not a Pro Bowl player but he would be the second-best quarterback in the AFC East. He’s not Peyton Manning, but if he’s put in the right situation, he could help make a mediocre team a playoff contender.

The Dolphins, 7-9 the past two seasons, are indeed mediocre. And they understand time is no longer an ally because fans and ownership want a contender in 2011.

So Palmer is the player folks in the Dolphins organization would love in a Dolphins jersey.

None of this is my opinion. It’s the opinion of folks within the Miami organization who have done the work. This comes from folks who have watched the films or crunched the numbers or done the evaluations or talked to the men who did.

Where does that put Henne? It doesn’t really affect Miami’s incumbent starting quarterback. Not yet.

Henne is the only quarterback on the Dolphins’ roster so he is the presumed starter now. And in the next couple of days when Miami owner Stephen Ross and Sparano are asked their opinion of Henne while in the Crescent City for the NFL annual meetings, they will likely say all the right things.

They will likely say Henne still has good potential and still can be the starter when the season begins. They will show equal parts confidence and hope Henne can become a franchise quarterback.

What else would you expect them to say?

The unvarnished truth is Henne is in the same spot as any other player who hasn’t proven himself. His job is perpetually at risk until he either earns the right to not be challenged or until the Dolphins find someone better.

None of this considers the draft, of course, because the youngsters fall into a totally different class. It’s possible the Dolphins feel compelled to pick a rookie quarterback and try to develop him for the future.

The Dolphins are indeed working diligently to identify the rookie quarterback that might best fit their system, their chemistry, their coaching approach. But finding that rookie doesn’t absolutely eliminate the need for a veteran.

Why, you ask?

The Dolphins understand that very few rookies break into the league as playoff quarterbacks. The odds the Dolphins would find a rookie quarterback who can play very well very quickly are microscopic. More likely the people picking and coaching that quarterback might find themselves doing so for the next football administration.

So the team has to consider veterans that can turn the club’s fortune sooner. That list of vets is not very long. And Carson Palmer is at the top of the list.

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My question is why do the Jets see Sanchez with his bellow average stats (which have been further buoyed by dropped ints) as the future, yet everyone wants to run Henne out of town when he has statistically performed at a similar level even though he has had a tough time with defences not dropping potential picks, i say give him one more year.

Fair point and good post, H.C.D.

I'm sitting next to a couple Cincy reporters right now and they tell me the Cincy OL was terrible. So Palmer was throwing rushed most of the time or off his back foot or while running for his life. Could have something to do with underthrows.

Also, they tell me the WRs are notorious for ad-libbing routes that aren't called. So if you are taking away his TDs because of his WRs, you have to take away INTs because of his WRs.

Mando, if Palmer ends up retiring, can a player un-retire? I know there's been a few players that have come back...I'm guessing there are some rules involved.

Odin, the Dolphins would like Palmer as the starter primarily not the mentor to Henne.

I think Daboll has a better approach than Lee did last year. I don't think he's necessarily a better OC than Henning. But I think he'll be better for the QB than Lee was.

Posted by: Armando Salguero | March 21, 2011 at 11:21 AM

Armando, I know the ONLY reason right now to sign him is to be the starter. My point and question was:

Do you think Palmer would be a better rub off on Henne than Pennington was.

That's why I said Palmer would be another stop gap and the long haul, etc, etc.

A lot of people are saying the combination of Lee, Penny and the Henny ruined Henne from the begining. So, essentially I'm asking do you think it would benefit us in the LONG RUN, having Henne being the backup too and learning from a guy like Palmer that's more of a gunslinger?

Or, have you just given up on Henne altogether?

While we're at it, if you have the time. What do you think of Stanzi as a prospect?

Come on now, I'm doing my best and trying to be "Grown Up" with these questions-LOL!

ValHalla Bro!!!!

I realize it's a slow news day but this is just so pathetic. Palmer is awful. They might as well keep Henne, they are going nowhere this season. Wait until they lose again all year and finally Ross will get someone like Cowher in here and we'll see some progress.

I really think they should focus on the running game. No matter who the QB is a good running game will make them better. Palmer last year didn't have a good year same with henne. And the reason for both I think was a lack of running game.
We can't give up draft picks for other peoples rejects. If palmer was available without having to give up picks that's one thing but to give up picks and his 50 million dollar contract is too much. Fix the running game and a get cheaper QB and draft a QB to develop

Kris, excellent question.

Palmer has a huge salary. He gets paid like a star starting QB and that would have to be absorbed into Miami's salary cap.

But I would tell you the Dolphis don't pay any QB like he's elite. In fact, Henne is (off the top of my head) going to make around $600K this season. So that's not a lot.

They can fit a star QB salary into their cap if they get proven QB.

Id rather keep henne than give up draft picks for palmer who is mediocre in my humble opinion.

cocoajoe: Brett Favre. Retire. Unretire. Retire. Unretire.

I like Palmer , but he hasn't played well in a while not just last year, but then again he plays for bengals . A change might do it for him, there is no way we can line up with Henne next year whenever it starts. I think orton is pretty good if we could get him and then draft another QB in the 3rd round or 2nd if we trade back. I think both Jeff and Tony have been put on notice in this offseason it is time to make better decisions, this is why they have to get a veteran QB ,7-9 again and one or both will be gone I think.

0x80,

I'll admit I've tried to look elsewhere to place blame for Henne's shortcomings. Especially in the past. I'm a complete Michigan fan and up until the second half of last season, was the biggest Henne Homer ALIVE.

While that's in the past for me, there is still a certain amount of legitamacy in placing at LEAST SOME blame on Lee, Henning and yes even Pennington.

Ultimately I place SOME blame on Henning for not tailoring his offense more to Henne strengths, youth and especially his inexperience.

I mean come on, in all honesty, Henning NEVER let Henne develop not even the skightest semblance of a rythim in a single drive. Yet under these wildcrap conditions he was supposed to develop into a franchise QB?

In Henning's long an illusrious career, he NEVER DEVELOPED a single young quarterback. On the contrary, he ruined a few. Look at that poor kid in Carolina!

Armando...

Good counterpoints. Thanks for replying to my post.

The Cincy OL was horrendous, no doubt. I guess it doesn't hurt to kick the tires on Palmer and see if he's got anything left in "el tanque."

If he does show up for a workout, I expect a FULL report on what you see!!

Later

Armando,

thanks....its good to know we CAN afford him....I guess the better question is will they pay him?

Fair enough Odin. My take on Henne is that he will always be a 'tease' QB. Flashes of potentional just enough to keep you interested in him followed by long stretches of appearing dazed and confused.

Armando,

Nice to have you 'live' and on board. I haven't had a chance to read your post yet today but don't you think it's about time the Dolphins stopped trading picks and trying to put a band aid on things. It hasn't worked for years now....I don't have to regurgitate the list. What about a 32 year old, beaten up QB (Palmer), who is still owed millions of dollars, makes you think he is a Championship QB? What has he ever won in Cinci? Guys want to give too much credit to QB's in the league as it is.....so using that criteria then, what exactly has Palmer ever won? Nice numbers and all but he's not a winning QB....end of story. Why do we have to keep changing our plans mid-stream. Commit to Henne for another season before we scrap everything. It's a very impatient organization and that's not good.

and Armando will be the 1st writing a blog about how Palmer is washed up... and you know it!!!

Odin,

I your hate for Henning is well noted...but you have to take into account that he has 3 SB apperances...and 2 SB rings....he knew something about offensive football...once apoun a time

Mando, you remember who you need to give props to when henne is our starter and possible pro-bowl contender. It does not matter who you bring in at this point. Henne will be better than all of them.

Don't get me wrong, and all of you who read my posts know, I really am pissed at what Henne did last year. But looking at the way he was coached, and the VERY inconsitant line play. If you get him a consistant line and a QB coach who he can get comfortable with... you just never know.

Craig M....the ANTI-QB.....whats up?

Then again, you know who to blow up if im wrong.... I hate setting myself up. :P

Carson Palmer would be an absolute coup for this regime. I have been a Bengals/Dolphins fan for decades, good and bad. Palmer has the quick release that made Marino a legend, because he had to or die, and he wouldn't have wide receivers that aren't where he expects them to be, even if they don't get 50 yards downfield. On throws between 15 and 20, Palmer is as powerful and accurate as he ever was, and that's saying something when he was used in the breath as Brees and Brady in his early career. Palmer is tired of playing for an organization that can't organize. Can't blame him. He would be the best available option if he can be had to man the helm until a good, young QB can be developed, similar to the Favre/Rodgers scenario, or the Montana/Young scenario. Not to say the same talent level, but the same thinking.

Palmer has proven he can win with a half-decent running game, a mediocre offensive line, and a good defense. We can have all three. Having watched the Bungles for decades, and having watched Miami for decades, this would be a dream come true for Miami, and sorry to say, another in a long line of bad breakups for Cincy.

If the Dolphins front office gets the chance to pick up Palmer and doesn't take it, they simply affirm what we know about their committment to winning....that it doesn't exist.

Poizen,

Don't forget get him a better running game....Special Teams sucked....Dan Henning was a dinosaur....the Lady who does our salarry cap cut Joey Porter to soon....Bill Parcells was on again off again...Dan Carpenter made it easy to go for feild goals because he was so accurate....Brandon Marshall thre a ball into the stands....Crwder missed a lot of tackles....

i'm sure I caould go on forever....but when is it gonna be Henne's responsibilty....

Kris,

Once upon a time being the key phrase!

At one time, actually at one very long time Henning was spectacular. He was of my favs that I loved to hate or hated to love. Especially when we had to play against his teams.

He never should have come back after his stint in Carolina. I heard Parcells was coming in and I got really excited. I heard he was bringing in Hennings and my jaw dropped. I posted here from the very begining that he would be our achilles heel.

The guy EARNED his legendary status back in the day. But the game simply passed him by. Much like Brett and his little friend, he just didn't know when to quit.

Odin,

You have been consistent...no doubt about that...

Kris, I know I am in the miniority here, and i am willing to discus my side of it. the running game was due to poor and inconsistant line play. But the tings I have seen and I guess I am more fair to Henne than others, maybe "TO" fair to some. I wish I could watch a game with a few of the haters and discuss what I see and see if their opinion changes. When the season was SO SO SO bad, it is easy to just lose it and blast a guy, and the guy we see most on O was Henne because play calling sucked. So it is easy to throw darts at him. I just saw some real good things, and I saw events in a game that changed the good things and he became tentative. I just see some things that if a QB coach works with him and not "controls" him, that the kid could be real good.

Again I know I am in the minority, but I am willing to stick my neck out and say it, because I am confident in what I see... We will see HOPEFULLY!


This is my MANIFESTO and I will print nothing more on the subject till after the draft !

1) If we draft a Q.B. with the 15th pick I will smash my TV with a hammer !! If we get cute and trade future picks to move up and take Cam Newton I will pour gasoline around J.Ireland`s house and lite it up, preferably with him inside.

2) If we stay at 15 and draft Ingram I will grit my teeth, bear with it and give the kid the benefit of the doubt, he does seem to play with alot of heart. This will be made easier if we can get Jernigan or Edmon Gates later, while also addressing T.E. Housler or Williams will do. Casey Matthews and Colin Mcarthey are intruiging late round L.B./S.T. players.

3) DarrylD posted that the only 2 teams with multiple 2nd rounders are Pats and Bolts, he missed one the DL starved Broncos, new coach Fox puts a high premium on Def. Ends in his 4/3 scheme and the best will be available at 15, the down side is any trade with them would be out of round 1 all together but if we get both those 2nd rounders I would consider, it would be a high and middle pick in round 2. Then you can invest in a Mallet, Keap or Ponder, while having a shot at Lashoure and Torrey Smith addressing team needs while making the O faster and giving Henne much needed competition.

4) If someone like Robert Quinn falls to us at 15 I`m not so sure I would trade the pick, would love the idea of pairing Wake with a monster like that making our pass rush that much more effective. At the end of the day everybody has to weigh adding a bonna fide star to the team versus drafting out of need.

5) Ireland and Sparano better not muck this up or everybody will be reading about how there homes were burned to the ground, with them inside, could always pin it on Miami Beach arsenist, claiming he had an accomplice all along, LOL !!!!!!!!!!

Yeah Mando, I know about Farve and I think there may have been a couple of others. Farve's situation was either going back to the same team or in one case the Jets really didn't care. I was wondering if there were any rules governing a move like that.

Poizen,

Glad you saw the humor in my post...because it wasn't meant to be a knife in the back...but more of a playful kick in the nuts....

I too would love to sit down and explain real time why I think Henne doesn't have "IT".....and I wonder if I could sway guys like you and Craig M....

I was on the Henne band wagon up until cleveland...I defended the man to no end....but sometimes you gotta see with your eyes and not your heart.....during the season Henne opened my eyes....

and I will give you the play calling was questionable to say the least....

So as our leader...either audible...or make a play....grow some BALLS and wave off the wildcat package....show Sporano that 3rd and 4 is YOUR time to shine....what were they gonna do...fire him? not after that MNF show Thigpen put on.....

It was HIS job to lose....and he LOST it.

Love this statemant, "He’s not a Pro Bowl player but he would be the second-best quarterback in the AFC East."

Jets Suck!

One thing is for sure that if they don't get CP2 or VY than they are drafting a QB in the 1st or 3rd. Andy Dalton in the 3rd rd would be great....

On aquiring Carson Palmer I say this, if we can build a time machine and go back to the 05 play offs and aquire the Palmer before the hit he took from Keeno Von Offelman that blew out his knee, then I say trade two 1st. round picks blind folded and twice on Sunday because if we aquire the latter then we get what we deserve, fools gold. He has never even been a shadow of who he was before the injury. I don`t know if it`s a fear in the pocket that keeps him from stepping back in there and throwing with authority or maybe the leg can`t take planting on it like before or what, I do know I wouldn`t invest my team`s future with so many question marks sorrounding him though.

flipper , craig and fin4 life-

their points are basically - no mortgaging of our future on big risks, palmer is another big question mark, his salary might be affordable but not the trade of players or picks

this year is about a) what ross wants - shortterm success, grab it now and trash the future vs invest in a balance of talent and need and have a longterm plan for success, they drafted d last year and the d improved they can draft more o than d this year but they need to stick to the d board

and b) whether ross can keep a grip on ireland and sparano on draft day to stick to a longterm plan IF they have one

henne is the only option as a starter that our future can afford the others all cost too much in pics

Cocoa,

He can't retire from the Bengals and sign with another team in the same year.

At least not without an agreement from the team that holds his rights.

ok d improved coz of nolan as much as the draft but u get what i meant yea?

i know, i know ross might have a plan, i'm a nutter/dreamer

PLUS I THINK VINCE THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE 20 LESS INT LAST YEAR HMM MAKES ME THINK HE IS A LITTLE BETTER THAN PALMER. PLUS ITS JUST MY OPINION AND I DONT KNOCK YOURS. PLUS GET OVER THE CAPS YOU PUNCUATION IDIOTS. IF YOU HAVE A DEGREE IN ENGLISH LIT. THEN SAY SOMETHING OTHER WISE GET OVER IT.

That is the only name on the list worth considering, IMO. Carson Palmer or stay with Henne. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE not Donovan McNab. Culpepper all over again.

GO DOLPHINS!!!

Yea Kris, His Henne's biggest obsticle is his confidence, and calling off plays. that being said, I will blame his not having balls on a coaching regime that seemed to coach with threats. Marshall talked about that in one of his interviews last year. Henne did not want to go against the grain with coaching because they drafted him to be THEIR QB in THEIR offense. I really think he was responding to bad coaching. I wish he would have done his own thing more often also.

We will see, I could be totally off base on this, and for the record, I am not a Henne fan, and did not like drafting him. But I have seen some real good things, and I think there actually is a GOOD QB in him. Just need the right people to devolp to his skills.

Either way, I just hope the Phins start winning, cause last year sucked royally.

ONE KEY STAT HERE:

QB WINNING % NOT QB RATING QB WINNING%

PALMER 53%

YOUNG 67%

WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR LITTLE QB RATTING IF HE CANT WIN GAMES QB RATING DOES NOT WIN GAMES. SO CHECK YOUR STATS BEFORE YOU THINK YOU ARE STAT GURU.

As far as this discussion, honestly think about what a difference better QB play would have meant last season. Not spectacular play, just pretty good. Odds are we would have been in the playoff hunt to the finish.

I'm not saying settle for that long term, but might fit a win now mode, while bringing along the QB they hopefully take in this years draft. I'm thinking Mallet or Stanzi.

JMO

Linebackers shouldn't be overlooked as a priority also. No doubt they'd like more production out of Crowder and Misi but they need to address it until progress is made. Wake and Dansby are a foundation for the best LB squad we've seen in years. OLBs or super an athletic ILB that can make the transition to 3-4 scheme are looking impressive this year.
Cameron Jordan
Martez Wilson
Ryan Kerrigan
Justin Houston
Aldon Smith
Brooks Reed
Akeem Ayers
Allen Bailey
Greg Jones
Bruce Carter
Sam Acho
Ricky Elmore
Casey Matthews
Kelvin Sheppard

HOW IN HELL YOU CAN TRUST A QB WHO CAME OUT AND SAID (( I HAVE 80 MILLION IN THE BANK )) .AT ANY MOMENT HE CAN TURN ON YOU IF HE'S NOT HAPPY PLUS WHO'S IN HIS RIGHT MIND TO PAY A GUY WHO HAS NUMBERS LESS THAN HENN 14 MILLION A YEAR NEXT SEASON ?

Palmer would be a great find for the Dolphins if Palmer was a pro style QB. He is not. Palmer is a west coast offense QB. He would be a great QB for San Fran., Oakland, Seatle. almost any NFC west team. Not the AFC east.

WE NEED A QB WHO NEEDS MONEY LIKE HENNE NOT 80 MILLION GUY ,WHO WILL REMIND YOU OF THAT IF MAKE FEEL BAD FOR A MINUTE .

The Bengals have never been a West Coast offense team.

PALMER LAST YEAR , INTERCEPTION MACINE OF FIRST RATE .

Talking about trading for Q.B.`s I really pray to God this isn`t us, remembering the last time A.Ried took us for a ride with Feeley, while puking all over myself !!!!

GearReport: One team willing to offer first-round pick for Kolb
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 21, 2011, 10:54 AM EDT

AP. Even though the Eagles can’t actually trade Kevin Kolb anytime soon, they are busy creating a market for him.

We have noted that Eagles coach Andy Reid and G.M. Howie Roseman have made it clear lately that Kolb is available. SI’s Peter King reports one team has already said they are willing to trade a first-round pick for him.

“Now [Reid is] looking for a team with a higher choice in the round to make him a better deal,” King wrote in MMQB.

That makes us wonder what mystery team is offering a first-round pick. We made the case a few weeks back that Seattle is the most logical fit for Kolb this offseason. They pick No. 25 overall.

If the Eagles truly do have a first-round offer in hand and have the ability to trade Kolb before the draft, he’s as good as gone. For now, those are large ifs.

ARMANDO SAID , (( THE CIN NEVER BEEN A WEST COAST OFFENSIVE TEAM ))

THAT'S WHY PALMER SUCKED AND WAS ONE OF THREE QB ON THE TOP OF INTERCEPTIONS IN THE LEAGUE .

ARMANDO IS LOOKING TO SABOTAGE THE FINS BY PUSHING IRELAND TO SCREW US AGAIN,IT'S A GAME PLAN OF THE GANG OF DEAFAT TO WEAK THE DOLPHINS .

Poizen....we agree on that without a doubt....LAT YEAR SUCKED!

defense 1st trade down dream mock
1st Jimmy Smith
2nd Brooks Reed
3rd Andy Dalton
4th Rob Housler
5th Ricky Elmore
6th Da'Rel Scott
7th LeStar Jean

aloco.the gang of defeat wants henne to start in 2011.this way the gang of defeat will be the ones to land luck in 2012.lol

Every on was high on Henne 2 years ago and if I had asked Mando comparing henne and palmer last year he would have said Henne was better.
Henne might not become the next Marino or Brady but to say that henne is and will always be worst than palmer is pre-mature at best. Spending a 1st round draft pick to get palemr with his 50 million contract is a bad idea IMO. I'd rather reach for a QB in the draft than take that deal.

If Carson Palmer is the answer, the question doesn't bear thinking about. He's a QB in decline, not the future of the franchise. In any case, until the Dolphins fix the O-line and get the running game back to snuff, it won't matter which veteran/retread or rookie you bring in, because the offense will still sputter, we'll still see a rain of field goals,and the QB will still be overburdened by having to do it all under pressure.

Boulder I agree with that. there are indicators that Henne may not be much better than what we have seen. However, anyone that says he is always that bad is kind of silly. the only way anyone can look at Henne and say "HE SUCKS" is if thaey have seen him play with a Great line, a Good running game and most importantly a good game plan. We have not seen Henne with a good game plan in his hands yet. 2 years ago the line played above average and the running game was above average. Neither GREAT. And after that year most people thought we had the starter of the future. Some of those same people now say he sucks. It just does not add up. the team as a whole got worse to to terrible coaching.

Anyway, if Carson comes at a lower pick it would make sense, but a high pick for where we are is to much...

BOULDER,


THE GANG OF DEFEAT AND ALL THE POSTERS WHO HATE HENNE WILL EAT THEIR WORDS NEXT YEAR.THE GUY HAS A WINNING RECORD IN 1 AND 1/2 YEAR HE STARTED LEARNING AND PALMER WHO HAS BEEN IN LEAGUE FOR 35 YEARS HAS A LOSING RECORD ...GO FIGURE ...IT'S A PLAN TO SABOTAGE THE DOLPHINS .

Armando,

What QB options does Cinci have?

For all their posturing, you know it will come down to whatever other options they have and what pick they might get in return.

Do you think their standoff is more posturing?

Have they even hinted around at what they MIGHT be looking to get for Palmer?

Also, what do you personally feel the right compensation would be?

I know I wouldn't give up my 1st and we're not working with a 2nd. Come on MAN, tell us how YOU REALLY FEEL.

PS: Don't be shy, Jeffy never reads this far down the comments section!!!!

CIN,

WILL DRAFT LOCKE AT NO 3 .

Aloco,, I do not fit the gang of defeat... So what Gang am I in, and if I am not in one, does it require a "beat in"?

POIZEN , YOU R IN THE GANG OF THE OBJECTIVES .


DO YOU KNOW THAT CARSON SALARY NEXT YEAR IS 14 MILLION A YEAR AND HAS A CONTRACT UNTIL 2014 WHICH ARMANDO FAIL TO MENTION .

I`m with you Aloco, Mando is actually the leader of the Gang of Defeat !!!! We need to combat his trickery because at the end of the day our lives don`t revolve around Fins drama.
We the actual fans want to field a winner ! sans the commentary from the Locker room, don`t you remember how Mando wrestled with that hack Kelley from the Sun Sentinel to scoop the nitty gritty on the Henne/Marsh squabble last season and now he wants to force feed us a helping of a washed out Palmer, no thanks bro !!!!

I will live and die with Henne in 2011 and take my chances with a draft pick before I set this franchise back any further by mortgaging it`s future on Palmer while keeping teams like N.E. in the business of further building there respective dynasties. It is not my intention to insult you Mando but your quick fix mentality reminds of a drug addict who doesn`t seem to get that there is a tomorow.

Unfortunatly we are left with a couple of real geniuses in Ireland and Sparano to see us thru. The more desperate the stupidity that I read gets and the more I would hand this team over to some of the bloggers on here, while outlandish the thought I can`t see how the comedy of errors that our franchise has become can get any worse, by the way 0x80 hired me as head scout, LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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