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News, thoughts on Miami quarterback chase

First to the news: The Dolphins have scheduled a private workout and visit with Nevada QB Colin Kaepernick for later this month, something that should come as no surprise to readers of this blog.

Kaepernick is a second-day pick but he's been very exciting to scouts following a promising college career and a simply outstanding spring in which he practiced well at the Senior Bowl and has shown well at the Combine and other workouts.

Contrary to a published report, the Dolphins have not yet scheduled a private workout with Jake Locker, according to a league source.

The Dolphins have every intention of trying to acquire a quarterback through the draft so keep Kaepernick in mind. But lately, I've perceived disappointment from Miami fans on this blog and my radio show in that the current NFL labor impasse might damage Miami's opportunity to find a veteran quarterback to offer a short-term answer to Miami's issues at the spot

Oh, you see the long-term possibilities in the draft, but you think Miami's short-term possibilities are diminishing.

Well, I understand the thinking.

Because the current labor situation is one of union decertification and ownership lockout, nothing is going on in free agency or in the trade market. We're at a stand-still at least until April 6 when litigation between the sides is scheduled to be heard in court.

That means Miami cannot trade for Donovan McNabb or Carson Palmer or Kevin Kolb. It also means Miami cannot possibly pick up or trade for Vince Young, either as a free agent if he's released or when he's made available in trade.

And that all but guarantees that incumbent Chad Henne would be Miami's starter again in 2011.

Well, I have a different view of this labor strife, one that might be a benefit to the Dolphins. It goes like this:

If the labor problems last past the April 28-30 draft, you should rejoice! But only as long as those labor issues get resolved between April 30th and June or early July sometime.

If that happens, and the NFL re-opens for business with a full-tilt free agency and open trading period, the veteran quarterbacks I mentioned above will still likely be on the market in some fashion or another. Except, much to Miami's benefit, the asking price will not possibly be a 2011 draft pick because the draft this year will have already passed.

So if the Dolphins have interest in going after a Palmer or a Kolb, they can do it with the idea of investing 2012 draft picks rather than picks this year. This year the Dolphins are hamstrung in that they don't have a second round pick because they used it in the Brandon Marshall trade last year.

But Miami has a full complement of picks for 2012. And I remind you of Jimmy Johnson's old theory that a first round pick next year is equivalent to a second-rounder this year based on the fact the player this year will come in and be more ready to contribute at a higher level by next year when that rookie next year is still getting his NFL footing. I'm not saying I agree with that, but that was his theory and it worked with players such as Patrick Surtain.

I don't believe the Dolphins can afford to use their first round pick this year on obtaining a veteran quarterback. They obviously don't have a second round pick so they are definitely pondering a trade-down option to recover that second pick. So right now, they probably can't go get either Palmer or Kolb because other teams will have more 2011 picks to haggle with than Miami.

But once this draft comes and goes, the Dolphins will be on a more even footing with other QB needy teams.

And then the idea of trading for a vetern QB such as Carson Palmer or Kevin Kolb might be more palatable. I don't know that Miami would do it, but it would be more possible as well.

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@ odin & Rob,

I hate to sound like some band wagon jumper but I gotta tell you I was feeling the J.Best pick at 28 last year as well. I was also sure moving into rd.4 that if A.Hernandez fell to us that he would without a doubt be the pick and when we drafted Edds it was all I can do to keep from puking all over myself !!!!

Right on fin4life,

There is room on the Bwagon for you brudda.

As for TE's I was a Jimmy Graham guy. I thought he may last until the 4rth or 5th with his limited college football experience but the Saints were all over him in the 3rd.

Hernandez and Gronk ended up being a player.

I like Hernandez but it appears I was wrong on Gronk. I was against him as a #2 sounded too high for a player with back surgery already in college. Time will tell what longevity he has but he is a playin Jose for sure.

Cheers,

Should read **Hernandez and Gronk ended up being players.

I wonder if Edds will come back strong.

In this pass oriented league I wonder if he can duplicate his success making plays on the ball as he did in college?

That would be great as turnovers change games.

Cheers,

Look For Ireland to pick a kicker.... Totally clueless..

yepee Rob another part time not quite starting material sort of a situational dime package tweener in Edds, instead of a strike fear in the hearts of saftey`s and LB`s kind of player like Hernandez, I meen this kid was there because of all the failed drug test rumors around him any way. At this point if Edds can come in and at least add something to ST I would be happy but at no point will I dillud myself into thinking he can be the dominant player at his position that Hernandez can be, I felt that way on that draft day and only wanted to pull my hair out as the season wore on and my suspicions were right on.

CM,

Like ol' Garo... "I kick de touchdown". lol

Cheers,

I would rather have henne and draft oline this year then any of the options. We should focus on oline. Protect Henne give him this year he will be fine he now has to prove he is worth it. He neve has had too so we will see the cream rise to the top. I'm not sold on him for our future but he needs a chance. Our qb coach and oc Messed him all up will see how he does this year. Besides do any of us really have a clue what the dolphins will do. They always draft a qb 2nd round that's about it.

The fact that I disagree with the draft pundits about Kaepernick thrills me to no end. My opinion is on record as worth no better than a late round pick. If the Fins draft him I hope to spend years eating crow but if not I'll stick to my guns on this one. Time will tell.

I agree with Armando and hope there's no CBA until after the draft!!!!

Rob in OC: I was being sarcastic about Sanchez & his superbowl!!! I hate the jets worse than any other team in the leauge & them bragging about going to the super bowl is just a joke!!! Henne has ONLY started in 2 seasons with the Fins therefore if he starts this year it would be his junior year PLAYING & his numbers were not that far from Sanchez's!!! None the less this year to keep or dump Henne with a new O.C. that is not too chicken $#!t to go for it instead of running 2-3 MILDCAT plays in the redzone!!! Let Henne trow the ball he don't scramble JUST LET HIM THROW!!!

Odin...The fishing was slow. Lots of muddy rivers, driving rain, and driving in cars to find not muddy rivers. Good times though.

Rob in Oc..What up!!! Gary Wagner Carrol College Saints National Champions. I got there late for all the 40 times. I saw the 3 cone drill, and the drill where they locate the ball over the shoulder. Plus some pass catching stuff. Here is what I noticed. Wagner is small. But definitley atheletic. I don't know why there was so much buzz about him. I have never seen Carrol play. I think he is to small for the Phins. The Colts, Eagles, Pats, Giants, Chiefs, Seahawks, Saints, Falcons, Titans.all had scouts there. I don't think this answers any questions about GW. I will say watching those drills is about as boring as watching paint dry. Last time for me.

THERE WILL BE NO FOOTBALL THIS YEAR SO I AM NOW ROOT FOR THE CANADIA FOOTBALL LEAGUE AND THE HAMITON CAT TIGERS THEY WEAR YELLOW AND BLACK AND HAVE THE CAT TIGER ON THERE HEMETS. I WANT TO GO THERE AND SEE THEM THEY ARE MY TEAM NOW

Rob @ 6:48...Oh yeah,I forgot to mention Wagner dropped only 1 pass that I saw. I was paying more attention to Chase Reynolds. Iknow this was the lamest scouting report of all time. But to be honest, I wouldn't have noticed Wagner had folks not been talking about all the scouts there to watch him.

But Lil Aloco, What about the Ape city Monkey's?? I thought you were rooting for them.............

I'm starting to think we will not be able to trade back in the first round so the question is who do we draft at 15

BK, Matt Bosher 6-2 215lb,Kicker,U.Of Miami......

Miami's "Chasing of a QB" reminds me of the tale of the tourtise and the hare, Miami of course is playing the part of the hare... Aloco, A Hare is a rabbit.......

Rob in OC,

I saw your answer to DMBs question about the GM decision and I would have to disagree somewhat. Your premise is that you cannot be exciting and win.

What made the Marino/Shula era exciting was the Air game and winning. What makes the Eagles exciting is Vick's running, Jackson's catching and winning. What makes the Packers Exciting is Rodgers running and passing and his WRs.
Ross wants to win, but he wants to be able to have an exciting product also. The NFL Network doesn't put ugly boring wins on and they get no pub. Ross needs to be able to get his team some pubicity.

I'am sorry it should have read Miami is playing the part of the tortoise....

CUBAN I WONT GO TO APE CITY WHEN HYENA COWHER AND THE GANG OF DEFEAT IS THERE ON TRIAL WITH THERE GIRL FRIEND NAKED ORPHA WINFRY EVEN FOR THE BIG GAME AGANST THE VULTURE CITY BUZARDS. THEY WILL NOT SEE THE SPANISH LADY GORILA CHEERLEDERS. I WILL BE IN CANADIA SEEING THE CAT TIGERS PLAY

Hey Rob thanks, makes perfect sense regarding Jones/Green....don't have NFL network anymore so, I missed combine.

On Odrick, I wonder if medical condition is chronic. Why can't we get a good team doctor?

We have a great team doctor already. I love him, he's the best.

Jordan Cameron, TE, 6-5, 254 pounds

4.59 40 yard dash. Super athletic.

After high school, Cameron decided to play basketball(scholarship) at Brigham Young University rather than football. After redshirting his freshman year (2006-07), he decided to give football another try. He played one season at Ventura College before transferring to USC in 2008.

There were high expectations for Cameron in some circles, but the converted receiver came out and exceeded them over the weekend in Indy. He ran the second-fastest 40-yard dash time of any tight end (4.59) and recorded the second-highest vertical jump (37.5 inches) too. He won the 3-cone drill and also finished in the top five in the bench press and the broad jump and reportedly caught nearly everything thrown his way in pass-catching drills.

USC tight end Jordan Cameron put on quite a show at the 2011 scouting combine, putting up great times as one of several of the new breed of super-athletic "big receivers" who are just as apt to split out to the slot than to stay inline and block. Most draft experts give Cameron a third- to fourth-round grade, but NBA slam-dunk champion Blake Griffin begs to differ — he believes that the 6-foot-5, 254-pound Cameron, who ran a 4.53 40-yard dash and managed a 37 ½-inch vertical jump at the combine, is the "safest bet" in this draft class.

-These are excerpts from three different websites. I watched him play SOME and I watched him at the combine. I watched a few of his youtube highlights as well. Awesome, EXTREMELY raw TE that recently switched over from wide receiver. I think he would be the PERFECT guy to tandem up with Fasano.

I'm slotting him in the 4th or 5th round of my Mock Draft/Wish list.

Forget about trading for a QB. Are you nuts? Draft a QB and let him wing it out against Henne. If the rookie wins he starts. Plain and simple. Nothing wrong with starting a rookie QB allot of teams has done it with success.

Yeah 'Chad', you would.

Arm feels great. Doctors almost ready to clear me. I got 3 solid years left and I plan to start for Miami.

John Beck looked awesome on youtube, too. So have 500 other guys that fans got all excited about and didn't do squat.

Oh, and JaMarcus Russell may have had some of the most spectacular workout numbers EVER.

The only truth with ANY of these guys is that none of us---NOBODY---has a clue how they'll actually do. It's just idle speculation that will prove wrong FAR more often than right, regardless of how much anyone has deluded themselves into thinking otherwise.

Tony,

Well, at least I'm only guilty of idle speculations. In your case, your WRONG right off the bat. John Beck looked like a squirrely little boy trying to hang out and play with his older brothers friends.

If you're so offended by our idle speculating and all of us being "wrong FAR more often than right" whip out your bad a s s crocheting needles and make your boyfriend a new crash dummy helmet!!!!

Thanks for stopping by...........Douche Bag!!!!

If that were only true 'Chad'.

Little Susie Davidson. Limited Spice Displays. Laotians Selling Diamonds. Lovely Stupid Dalmations. Luis Suffers Diarrhea. London's Secret Dynamo. Lemon Sauce Dementia.

Looks like I hit a nerve, lol!

As for the "boyfriend" part I'M not the one obsessing over athletic young men in spandex stretching and leaping.

Freud would have a field day with that. Sweetie.

Tony Nelson Latvian Salad Tosser,

Suck my secret Dynamo Lemon Sauce!

Boy am I an idiot....I was trying to wax poetic about some little known player, and I got his name wrong. I had a huge brain fart.. Anyway the tight ends name is Bubba Bartlet, not Gary Wagner. I don't know why I kept using Wagners name, but after re-reading my earlier posts I realized my mistake. Gary Wagner is a quarterback who was also in attendance at the pro day. Sorry for the mix-up. Not that anybody cares. Just had to call myself out.

Freud would have a field day with that. Sweetie.

Posted by: Tony Nelson | March 15, 2011 at 08:35 PM


Freud my a s s! My girlfriend just made a couple of idle speculations after having walked in on me watching a Jordan Cameron workout session.

Tou'che SWEET CHEEKS!!!!

Geez...

Oh, Lady Spacesuit doesn't care. That is to say, ham and chocolate. Let the battleship go and don;t be like that, Tommy. Too much battery juice on the job. It isn't good for carnivals and it won't please the chihuahua. Believe me, Dorothy knows about Mexico and she won't violate the trust you have built with triangular watermelons. Tommy, remember what Miss Polly said that night you ran naked through Wal-Mart. "You will never be sent to the guillotine by a parakeet," she said. And she was right, Tommy, she was right! Too late for the salt robots now and something melted but don't let that stop you, Tommy! You will fly to Rajanathanpur on the back of an Ibis and be greeted by a jar of mayonnaise speaking Ugandan dialects and a chorus of vomiting schoolchildren. The people of Seattle have gathered on the porch and begin to gargle with Listerine Arctic Mint, Tommy. Yopur bat or mine, it doesn't matter. I have viewed the home of June and Ward Cleaver and determined their children are communist wolvernines.

Gulf,

I believe the proper phrase would be:

SHEESH!!!!

Darryl,

I want to take my three sons fishing on spring break.

I got good lakes and rivers all around here. I need to know what to fish for this time of year and what bait to use?

You're right odineye, 'Gee whizz' ain't got nothin' ON, !#SH*!EESH!!

Odin, I don't bait fish. Just fly fishing. I'm sure that in the UP there are some awesome rivers with Brown trout, and rainbows. Aren't there Walleye, and Pike up there in the lakes? As far as fly fishing. I don't know what hatches as far as bugs up there. Browns, and rainbows are aggressive predatory fish. So streamers are always a good choice. But as far as bait fishing, I cannot answer, or give any hints..except worms!lol

Worms? Oh, you don't say! Slendid-lol!

Actually the Walleye are caught right in the channel leading into the Soo Locks. Just not to good at all this time of year.

Guess we'll try a little of both and see what happens. Either way, we'll have a blast just getting out there. It's been a long winter-lol!

Oh yeah, THANKS again for that great worm suggestion!

(SHEESH! Way to make me feel like a Dummy)

TYPO-Splendid!-DOOH!

I AM BACK FROM WORK AFTER PUTTING MY SHARE TO HELP DB,MR CUBAN AND CO PAYING THEIR MONTHLY RETIREMENT CHECKS .

ODINSEYE, DO YOU KNOW HOW TO FISH ?


YOU CAN USE DOG FOOD AS BAIT .

I'm not 100% certain Aloco, but after reading the last 15 or so posts and the time frame between your last past and Odin's.... I'm wondering if they all killed each other?

I DON'T UNDERSTAND DEREK ,NOTICE FEW FAKE ALOCO WRITTEN BY MR CUBAN .

How did we get here? The Patsies have 6 picks in the first 3 rounds. I don't see the Jet's getting any worse. Exactly how did we get into this situations? Answer: We screwed up with the Ginn pick. Even if Quinn was a bust we could have gotten something for him. With that Ginn pick we decided to pick up Hennpecker. This team would be so different if we picked Quinn over Ginn.

So I blame SHAM SHAMERON right now. But Ireland and Tuna punched a few more holes into this sinking ship by hanging their hat on Hennpecker this long. Hennpecker is a sorry excuse for a QB.

You know what. I take some of that back. A lot of our problems belong on Dan Hennings shoulders. Too many games lost because of his offensive scheming.

I mean really, how the heck is Penny still on the team KNOWING his shoulder is jacked up? That just demoralizes our offense.

LOS LOBOS............ THIS IS AN OLD STORY ,TRY TO WRITE SOME THING NEW AND CREATIVE .

ALSO YOU CAN USE CAT FOOD FOR BAIT. BUT THE WET KIND...............THE DRY KIND CRUMLES ON THE HOOKS.

Los Lobos...

I understand your frustration. But the Jests have already lost some pieces to their puzzle that will take high picks and developmental time to replace. And a few of the players they tried making their "Big Run" with last year were one year contract wonders that they now must either re-sign or replace. The Jests are going to be tough, always are when Miami is concerned. But Miami has won the last 4 of 6 games with them. They are not our biggest concern. New England got many of those picks they always seem to have from compensatory losses. Bill Belechick has finally taught his fan base that allowing Big Name Free agents to walk away is not always a bad thing. Because when a player is lost through FA, the draft must give a compensatory pick that is equal to the loss. Some day, we Miami fans will smarten up and realize that it is not about being "Loyal" to players who want bigger and bigger contracts. Just because we like them... Its about Winning. And when you stack between 10 and 15 picks per year... you can usually come out a winner. I'll also remind you that with only a few exceptions, Chad Henne was considered one of the better QB's of his draft. One more thing about that, I'm no Henne pundit or fan, but up until mid-season this past year, you can go back and read posts on the "Green Bay Press Gazette" Packers Blogs... and for the last 2 or 3 years, most of the fans hated Aaron Rogers and Mike McCarthy. Many posted that the team would never win or do anything as long as McCarthy was coach and "That Idiot" Aaron Rogers was the QB... Not my words... that is what the Green Bay fans have thought for a couple of years now. It seems you never know until the lights come on what you really have... Just look at Paul Soliai. We'll learn a ton about Paul this next year (if we play at all)....

Where is OC, Rob?

DEREK THAT IS VERRY GOOD LOS LOBOS NEED TO WRITE ABOUT OTHER THINGS. WHY THERE IS JUST A FEW KINDS OF DOG FOOD ANY WAY? IT IS EITHER ((DRY)) FOOD OR ((WET FOOD)) BUT JUST LIKE PEOPLE THERE IS MEXICAN DOGS AND CHINA DOGS FRANCE DOGS ENGLAND DOGS RUSSA DOGS ARGENTENA DOGS JAPAN DOGS IN AMERICA BUT THEY DONT GET TO HAVE THERE OWN FOOD. CATS TOO I BET SIMAMESE CATS WANT TO EAT FOO CHOW MAIN NOT PURINEA

The SB Miami Dolphins Teams were kind of boring. Csonka for 11, Kiick for eight, a reverse to Paul Warfield for 17, Csonka for 3, Kiick on a pass for 7, Griese up the middle on a QB draw-Touchdown. How boring!

Entertainment? In Football, entertainment is only given by two evenly matched Teams savaging each other.

The "Odinsider" Mock Draft

Brought to you by the original "Heineken Mini-Keg!
(believe me, the Heineken Mini Keg definitely "contributed" to this mock).

1st. Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin - 6'7 - 327

War room alternates:

Nate Solder, OT, Colorado - 6'9 - 315

Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College - 6'7 - 308

I think most have Solder and Castonzo ranked above Carimi, but so what. If you disagree, sue me! I'm not sold on Tyron Smith either. A little on the lite side at 285 in my opinion.

3rd. Kendall Hunter, RB, Oklahoma State - 5'8 - 200

War room alternate:

Jerrel Jernigan, WR, Troy - 5'9 - 190

Both have speed and home run ability. Jernigan has vastly improved kick return skills.

4th. Ricky Stanzi, QB, Iowa - 6'4 - 230

War room alternates:

Clint Boling, OT, Georgia - 6'5 - 315

Boling stock has already risen too far making this a pipe dream. Still I had to include him somewhere.


5th. Jordan Cameron, TE, USC- 6'5 - 254

War room alternates: Marcus Cannon, OT, TCU - 6'6 - 350

Cannon is quick on his feet and a superb athlete for being a GamBooni in 350 pound range. Another that's moved to far up since I original began. Dream on.

6th. Tawain Jones, RB, Eastern Washington, 6'0 - 194

7th. Jordan White, WR, Western Michigan - 6'0 - 211

This is essentially my first attempt at putting together my wish list. The problem is, too many of my picks have moved up the boards substantially. I also have to work out a solid speed receiver in there somewhere.

It absolutely sucks not having a 2nd rounder. It just throws everything out of whack. This gives you a rough idea of the strategy I'm looking at, but I still have a lot of "work" too do. I'm sure I'll rework this board about a gazillion times between now and draft day.


2nd or 3rd rd talent? LMAO Their talent level and potential are higher than Luck
He just has all the intangibles coaches cream over

Odin I like the picks but I think Jerrell and Hunter will both go in the 2nd rd. Jordan Cameron has moved up to the 3rd or 4th rd he is this years Graham IMO but your 1st rd OT picks I think are almost necessary if we don't go QB... Gotta fix this Oline. It's probably the weakest in the AFC east

Also Tyron Smith weighed in at 307 at the combine. He has the most potential out of all of them but I do like the tall maulers also. Carimi would be a reach at 15 with a trade back though it would be great

cuban,
Matt Bosher SUCKS.

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