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Debunking the myth of OL position flexibility

For several years now, since Bill Parcells-Jeff Ireland-Tony Sparano took control in Miami, we've heard the term "position flexibility" mentioned time and again as an asset, indeed a necessity, for Dolphins offensive linemen.

I suspect you'll hear the term more in the coming months based on the fact the Dolphins selected Mike Pouncey with their first overall pick in this draft and he has played both guard and center at the University of Florida.

"... He really only played the center position for one year," Ireland said following the pick, "… and like I said, it’s going to be up to the coaches on where they put him. I think we have great position flexibility with he and Richie (Incognito) and so ... but right now, I think we’re going to slide him in at center and go from there.”

I would tell you Pouncey will slide in at center and he better not slide out. I would tell you his value is at center as the signal-caller for the entire line. I would tell you picking a guard at No. 15 overall is not nearly as good a deal as picking a starting center.

I would tell you the Dolphins better cast off these freaky ideas of position flexibility with Pouncey and all their other good linemen.

If coach Sparano is reading this, he's not happy. The man loves the ability to mix and match, move and coordinate different combinations of linemen on offense. He is like a scientist in a lab.

I hate that.

Football ain't no lab project. I think the way to make an offensive line great is picking your five best guys and leaving them at their spots until something significant like a world war dictates otherwise -- position flexibility be damned.

Frankly, to me, position flexibility is a euphimism for not good enough to keep one spot. Jake Long has zero position flexibility. The man is going to be Miami's left tackle until he retires.

That's not a bad thing. That's a good thing!

Meanwhile, guys like Nate Garner, Richie Incognito, Joe Berger, Pat McQuistan can bounce around at left guard, right guard, a little bit at center, some at tackle, and they're just ... ok. Not great. Not amazing. Not Pro Bowl players.

Just ok.

I've had it with just ok position flexible offensive linemen.

The Dolphins should decide that Pouncey is a center and leave him there. Period. The Dolphins should figure out if second-year man John Jerry is a left guard or a right guard and live and die with that decision. The Dolphins should know Incognito is best at right guard and anchor him there until someone rips the job from his cold, clammy hands.

Period.

Flexibility, schlexibility!

Toying with all this position flexibility is necessary for the scrubs. But the guys that you want to start? It's bad. It's a path to confusion.

Position flexible players are jacks of all trades ... and masters of none.

I hope, I pray, the Dolphins are not telling their scouts, "Go out there and find me an offensive lineman with position flexibility," because that is code for, "Go out and get me a replaceable backup."

And that leads me to my next beef about Miami's approach to building the offensive line: I hate all the constant experimenting.

The past two seasons, the Dolphins have toyed with their offensive line the first three, perhaps four weeks of training camp and into the early preseason games.

No!

Note to coaching staff from the guy who knows nothing: Your 2011 starting offensive line should be LT Jake Long, LG John Jerry, C Mike Pouncey, RG Richie Incognito, RT Vernon Carey. That's it. The only possible tweak might be to switch Jerry and Incognito if Jerry still hasn't figured things out well enough. But that's all. Period.

I don't want Pat McQuistan to get a chance to earn a starting spot. He's not a starting-caliber player. I don't want Rey Feinga tagging in and out wherever it is he's playing these days.

Pick your five and commit to them. Let them grow together. Let them struggle together, if necessary. But let them do it together. That forms a bond. That forms chemistry. That forms kinship.

I remember Don Shula drafted Richmond Webb and Keith Sims in 1990 and put them at LT and LG, respectively, and that was that. There was no room given for experimentation. They played every single snap of the preseason. And they played all but one snap of the regular-season side by side.

By 1991, these guys were so in tune with each other, they actually would walk out to practice and then off the field with Sims on Webb's right -- just like they lined up. They lockered that way, too. It became the natural order of things for the two.

No mixing. No matching. No experimenting.

The only option they got was do or don't do. Succeed or fail. It wasn't, "Well, if you don't play well at left tackle, Richmond, we'll move you over to right tackle."

I'm sure a coach reading this could present a dozen reasons why experimentation is important with the likely starting group. Fair. I can give one reason why experimentation is not smart: It failed last year. It failed horribly.

Pick a group. Stick with them through some adversity. Let them grow. That's how good offensive lines blossom. 

[NOTE: Same drill today as yesterday. I'll update later with whatever information I dig up. Don't go anywhere. Follow me on twitter. And there will be a live blog starting at 6 p.m. when the draft gets underway.]

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for once I agree with Mando. We need stability at the line. Sparano better not try and get cute with this.

You are 100% correct. OL is a team sport. Continuity is essential. I think much of the blame for the deterioration of the OL last year was due to the coaches tinkering too much.
Plus they tried to get cute by replacing Justin Smiley and Jake Grove with cheaper younger guys. Given that there was no salary cap, that was a bad decision. The young guys were injured as much as the old guys, and they did not play as well as the old guys when they were healthy.

@frust8ted: What you want, flashiness, a guy on the cover of Madden, ect., we had that for 15 years. It was called the Marino era.

No, i dont go to a game to watch the C play. i go to see the team win. And if that guy helps, then its a good pick.

I want some more explosion on offense too. There was no one to pick at 15 that supplies that

Everyone agreeing with the Pouncey pick, great.

Everyone disagreeing, great also.

Every fan here has the right to express thier joy or disjoy. At the end of the day as fans, no matter which side of the fence we sit on this, just wanna see the team win.

CONGRATULATIONS, WE'RE ALL DOLPHIN FANS! LOL.......

Garbage and DD,

You guys are always the voice of reaon on here....good points!!

DB, you've come around my man....you've been making a lot more sense lately...nice to see!

Still no constructive answers on who would have been an obviously better pick than Pouncey at 15. Just a lot of complaining about picking a center. And lots of praying for Pouncey to fail just to say "I told you so."

Regarding the above article: Anyone remember Willie Roaf, Brian Waters, Casey Weigman, Will Shields, and John Tait? Chiefs dominant offensive line in the early 2000's. Dick Vermeil would have never dreamed of shuffling them around, even in the event of injury. You just plug in the backup and let the rest of the line pick up the slack if needed.

Look, we all have strong opinions but the bottom line with this draft stuff---as always---is that we really don't have a clue how things will shake out, no matter how much we may want to believe otherwise.

Wasn't it just a few years ago nearly the entire fanbase went ballistic when Brady Quinn wasn't selected? Hell, I remember when Tim Bowens was universally panned as a terrible pick. Until he turned out to be one of the best interior DL's in the game, that is.

Because of the intensive coverage today I think there's a tendency to overanalyuze and make instant judgements on things that simply CAN'T be judged right away.

Except in very rare instances, a draft doesn't reveal itself as good or bad until 2-3 years down the pike.

Joe

You are an idiot. If Mallet was 1st round QB than some team would have taken him. No one took him in the 1st for a reason, maybe just maybe he was not first round material. If he was the Pats would have taken him and would trade him next year for two first round picks and a secound. Get over it

I think it's fairly safe to say at this juncture that Mallett was NOT a first-round QB, lol.

Garbage, I said I understand the pick & expected it. That's my problem right there. It was one of the better players available, I get it. It was a need, I get it. The pick was just like Ireland says it was...safe.

I already stated I would have taken Mallet, Ingram, Prince. Bottom line is, this teams need a qb. We can keep rebuilding the line til we're blue in the face. All we'll do is turn purple. Pouncey doesn't make us better than 7-9. A QB could. A good qb overcomes bad protection or a bad running game.

That's why risking the 15th overall pick for a QB with potential to be a franchise qb was Ok with me. Mallet has an elite skill set. I would have loved to see this franchise FINALLY take a legit risk in the 1st round & get arguably the best arm in this draft. it's 1 draft pick. If he fails, this team is still 500 with him or Pouncey. Which is why I see the pick as low value.

Craig, you are SO FICKLE! Jesus man! It makes no sense to you because you don't understand. How can you not see that comparing any of this years QB's to Pat White is a joke?

White was not drafted to be a FT qb, he was a gimmick. Pat White was not a 1st rd talent. We aren't talking about 2nd round reaches on spot players. We are talking about taking a chance on guys with more talent than pat white to be the face of your franchise. Only 1 round higher & immensely more talented with much higher reward.

If you can't see the difference in what you think I'm saying & what I am saying, I'll be glad to stop talking to you LOL Because it's clear to me, you are oblivious.

Good day gents!

What strange player will Al Davis reach for? I'm thinking perhaps a Bangladeshi cricket star with great 'separation' speed.

IF POUNCEY STARTS AND BECOMES A PRO BOWLER IN 2011. HE CAN UNQUESTIONABLY AND DEFINITELY LOOKED AT AS A TRUE "IMPACT PLAYER" SELECTED IN THE 2011 DRAFT.

CAN WE ALL AGREE ON THIS?

Strong work Mando

CraigM,

I gotta tell you bud that I don`t agree, first we took a player that has absolutly no guarantee of being an NFL caliber Center, he more than likely will play LG and I think that`s great but not our most pressing need, he more than likely plays next to Long for the next decade and there special !

I would however have gone against the convetional thinking and traded up for one of the real studs in this draft. I know alot of people think that we shoud go the thinking for saving picks for the future but I don`t agree, if you have the chance to get someone special, then DRAFT HIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

impressed as this best article you have ever written, blogged or twittered. Jason Allen saftey/corner thing drove me mad as he was below average in both.Draft stud at one postion.

Good post Michael you were right in with that. Miami got rid of 3 starting OL and thought it would not hurt them last year. I bet the coach will not do that again.

@GarbagePlate,
the madden comment was a side point, the real issue is footbal is entertainment at its root, and loosing is not entertaining. Even if Pouncey
plays better than any center ever, he maybe influences the outcome of a couple games a season. the pick may be solid but its not inspiring. great center play doesnt help hennes accurancy and it doesnt make our running backs faster, or help our wide outs get open. henne misses easy throws even with time, ronnie and rickey get caught from behind even with good blocking and no secondary in the league fears our recieving corps or game plans to stop our tight ends. they shut down marshal and we dink and dunk our way to average.

NFLBS, an idiot is someone who thinks he wasn't 1st round material because he wasn't drafted by GM's who routinely make mistakes more than 50% of the time. What about Montana, Brady, brees? Did they turn out to be worthy of a 1st rounder?

On the flip side, were Akili Smith, Joey Harrington, Ryan Leaf or Rick Mirer worthy of 1st round pickS?

Before you call people idiots, please take a long hard look in your mirror.

I'll give you a team that doesn't move up in the draft or target potential "stars" long on potential but with huge bust possibilities: The Patriots.

Very consistently, the Pats target 'cogs.' Solid character guys who will fit into their system. They don't play it risky and haven't since Belichick arrived there.

They also miss on picks just like any other team. The key to them doing so well is their uncanny ability to acquire EXTRA picks, thus tilting the odds in their favor of hitting on some.

Steelers are another notoriously conservative drafter, as well as being one of the least active in FA historically.

It may not be the sexiest pattern, but over time it proves to be the smartest.

(and, yes, I KNOW Miami needs to upgrade QB...just don't think the options there were the answer and would have been a huge reach)

GOOD ARTICLE MIAMI HEAD COACH IS A TOTAL FOOL AND AN IDIOT AND HE SHOULD HAVE LEFT TOWN WITH IRELAND AND THAT FAT PARCELLS I WANT PEDERSON HE HAS SOME FOOTBALL SENSE ANYWAY THESE THREE FOOLS AND THE OWNER ARE REDICULES PERIOD! MIAMI HAS NEEDED A QUARTERBACK FOR 13 YEARS AT LEAST SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED ONE IN EVERY DRAFT TILL THEY FOUND ONE PERIOD! THEY NEED A RECIEVER WHO CAN RUN AFTER THE CATCH AND CATCH THE BALL. PERIOD ALA MARK CLAYTON AND DUPER AND KEEP AT LEAST RICKEY OR RONNIE AND DRAFT A WR AND A RB PERIOD AND A KR AND PR THEY HAVE NOT HAD A KRPR SINCE FULTEN WALKER AND THEY SHOULD HAVE KEPT CHAMBERS AND WELKER ALSO THIS STAFF SUCKS EXCEPT COX AND MIKE NOLAN TONY SPARANO IS A IDIOT INSTEAD CRYING ABOUT HIS JOB HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED PERIOD HE CANT GET IT DONE AND THAT WEASEL BILL PARCELLS LEFT TOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NITE AGAIN! LIKE WEASEL SABAN AND FAT JIMMY J JOHNSON SINCE JIMMY JOHNSON CAME IN THIS TEAM HAS SUCKED PERIOD! HIRE DON SHULA TO BE GM OR LET DAN MARINO DO THIS AND HAVE HIM EXCEPT FOR GOOD! THIS TEAM NEEDS TO BE SOLD PERIOD I AM TIRED OF THESE WASTED DRAFT PICKS WTF GUARDS AND TACKLES WE NEED RB AND QB AND WR TO SCORE SOME POINTS TONY FIST PUMPER YOU LOSER!

Well, if we're that concerned about the Center position. We can always have the same doctor that gave the ok on Odrick take a look at Dwight Stephenson.

Im sure he'll give Stephemson the ok to play again. LOL................

Mando! I gotta call you out on this one!
Sparano already said in an interview that his tinkering with the O-line. Was not good for the team's continuity and that he intended to put players in their natural position and leave them there. In fact, I think you were the one who reported it at the presser! So now, when the coach does that, are you gonna take all the credit for the move? Hahaha!
Pouncey is penciled in at center, even though he only played that position for one year. And, he sucked at it in the beginning, but got better as the season progressed. So, Miami has to decide if he can play center or move him back to guard. That'll happen during Training Camp. The line should be set by the start of the season (if there is a season).
Still wished we'd have gotten a LG that could pull to help the running game, but the draft isn't over yet. And free agency may start next week.
All is not lost, people! The fans seem to be the only ones screaming that our season's over because we didn't take their favorite QB.


IF POUNCEY STARTS AND BECOMES A PRO BOWLER IN 2011. HE CAN UNQUESTIONABLY AND DEFINITELY LOOKED AT AS A TRUE "IMPACT PLAYER" SELECTED IN THE 2011 DRAFT.

CAN WE ALL AGREE ON THIS?

Posted by: DyingBreed | April 29, 2011 at 01:42 PM

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Absolutely.

I'd say if he simply stabilizes an OL that has the potential to become extremely effective, then that would make him an excellent addition.

I have no problem with the logic of the pick.

kris and others unhappy with this pick, what did you expect the team to do? Who would you have rather gotten? We couldn't trade back (that was my prediction by the way), so were stuck with 1 pick in the 1st 2 rounds. Therefore, we COULDN'T take a chance this year with that pick. If we got Mallett, and he was an utter disaster, that would have been the worst case scenario long-term. We needed a guy that will start Week 1 and contribute this year. That means no QB (unless the FO was in love with one of them who wasn't picked yet, which obviously they weren't).

Other than that, they could've gotten Ingram, but Ireland didn't love him enough to take him (and I'm not mad at him about that). So they took a guy who everyone said was a solid pick (experts that is). He'll help the oline (which needs it), help Henne (who needs it) and help any RB we get (who'll need it).

So, once again, what would you rather have them do?

Mando's right that you shouldn't monkey around with your o-line. He's wrong to criticise Sparano for his mad scientist approach the past 2 seasons for 2 reasons. 1 injuries happen. Not Coach's fault. 2 He had maybe 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 starters to work with. Long is the real deal. Carey is passable. I thought Incognito was okay at center, put smarter people than I have graded him poorly in games I thought he was okay. And that's what Sparano had to work with. There's no correct way to build a dominant Parcells-style oline with those personnel because it isn't possible. And I like the idea of building such a beast--it's the most logical way to make this team competitive immediately with Pats and Jets.

Joe

An idiot is someone who thinks he is smarter than all the GMs on the NFL who did not pick Mallett in the first round

DyingBreed @ 01:54 PM

LOL Good one!

dln 265 @ 1:34,
well, for starters, randall cobb would have been a better pick. cobb is a tweener and when you look at where locker and ponder went, and even wilkerson, we could have picked cobb and nobody would have said anything. he's a playmaker. he's got speed and he's a great punt returner. 2nd, ryan williams. 3rd, hankerson. all of these guys are graded as 1st/2nd rd talent. granted, they are "tweeners" but why not? just like the titans, you would be taking the guy you had rated the highest that would help your team the most. i'm not happy with the pouncey pick and i'm not disgusted with it. however, speed was the priority according to ireland and he would have sent a message to the fans that he was giving the team speed with one of those picks.

respectfully disagree with frustr8ted at 1:48. a better line inevitably makes Henne more accurate, makes the backs more effective, and helps the wideouts get open. that's one way that real football differs from videogames. football is lineman v. lineman, when it comes right down to it.

NC, Sparano was tinkering with the oline well before any injuries. He did it year 1. Kept moving guys around, trying them in different places. Sure, that's a way to see what you got, but all the good olines I see around the league are a pretty static unit. How many changes you see on Pats oline, or Denver's, or the Giants?

Does Sparano know something every other team doesn't? Or is he trying to micromanage too hard. I say, relax, find the best 5 guys, keep them in their spots, and let them gel for a year. Sure, if there's an injury, you gotta replace a guy and maybe move someone. But once that guy comes back, put it all back like it was. There's something to be said for a oline solidifying and learning to play together over time. Those are always the best lines.

You should be thankful this regime did not pick a quarterback. Right now, the wagon is totally hitched to Henne. If he flops again, Ireland, Sparano, and the rest are likely gone. If they would have reached for some QB at 15 just to sell some tickets, in all likelihood, the QB (Mallet, Kapernick, whoever) would have just rode the bench all year, maybe get some time at the end of the year when the season is lost, and then just be stuck in limbo when a new GM/coach take over in 2012. John Beck ring any bells? QB's should be taken in conjunction with new management. Ireland/Sparano had their chance in 2008, swung and missed, and now realize its too late to start over again. They know this, so why can't the fans pick up on it? Its Henne or bust people. If not, then get ready for Cowher in 2012. Pouncey helps today, and would weather any future coaching carousel.

Apparently, the key to making people happy is for the NFL to simply shower the Dolphins with 22 first-round picks so that they can draft every single guy they "should have" taken.

I also propose that Miami be able to trade backup safeties (and possibly cheerleaders) for future first-rounders.

Sparano should be fired immediately for not being able to do this.

FOR ALL WHO HATE THE POUNCEY PICK ON ACCOUNT

OF HIM BEING A SHODDY CENTER, PARTICULARLY HIS

SHOTGUN SNAPS.

HE IS PERFECT IN THIS VIDEO, PLEASE CHECK IT OUT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H0AhJ_d4Bo


totally agreed.
Right now as I see it is
LT Jake Long
LG Nate Garner/ John Jerry
C Mike Pouncey/ Joe Berger
RG Richie Incognito/ John Jerry
RT Vernon Carey

Just realized I don't even know who the backups at tackle are becuz TS is crazy about moving players...

I agree 100%. THANK YOU!!!

dr. roberts,

Good post at 1:52pm. That's what I've been saying for awhile.

Everyone has Belichik (and before with the help of Pioli) as draft gurus. They are not. Go back and look at their last TEN years of drafting. They are continually missing 2nd and 3rd picks. Look at some of the guys they drafted....you won't even recognize some of the names on the list. But where they have KILLED us is they haven't thrown foolish picks around in an effort to REACH for guys or plug holes. Lammar Gordon, AJ Feeely, Daunte Culpepper, Brandon Marshall, Ricky Williams.....these are all guys we have paid steep prices for. You don't see the Pats don't any of that stuff. They value EVERY pick and make the most of everything. It would have been VERY easy for them to trade up and pick up a Julio Jones or a Von Miller but that's not how they do business. As a result, they are much more consistent than us....and I got news for you guys too....they do grab acorns.

D STEPHENSON WAS A CENTER SO WAS LANGER WE HAVE HAD GREAT GUARDS AND TACKLES K SIMS R WEBB AND DELLENBACH AND ROY FOSTER THE OLINES OF MARINO YEARS WERE ALL GOOD. BUT COME ON MAN THIS GUY IS NOT A CENTER DID ANY OF YOU WATCH THE EARLY GAMES AND THE FUMBLED SNAPS AND ALL. HE IS A GUARD PERIOD AND A FIRST ROUND PICK ON A GUARD ! COME ON! SHOULD HAVE TAKEN MALLET OR KAEPERNICK AND WENT FOR BROKE THIS IS WHY WE SUCK EVERY YEAR NO BALLS! WE NEED PEOPLE TO PUT POINTS ON THE BOARD TONY FIST PUMP YOU SUCK AND SO DOES JEFF IRELAND RUN THESE FOOLS OUT OF TOWN! I LIVE IN THE WEST AND HAVE BEEN TO A GAME EVERY YEAR HAVE BEEN A FAN SINCE 1969 AND THIS SUCKS! MIAMI JUST DOESNT GET IT! ALL YOU DOLPHIN FANS IN MIAMI CALL IN AND TELL THEM THIS PICK SUCKS AND LET THEM KNOW THIS WRITE THE PAPERS DONT BUY OR RENEW SEASON TICKETS WATCH GAMES AT HOME OR DIRECT TV OR NFL NETWORK SO THE OWNER WILL LOSE MONEY AND HE WILL HAVE TO GET RID OF IRELAND AND TONY FIST PUMP SPARANO AND RUN THE REST OF BILL PARCELLS CLOWNS OUT OF TOWN PERIOD! THIS SUCKS WTF I CANT BELIEVE THIS AGAIN! JIMMY JOHNSON WASTED ALOT OF FIRST ROUND PICKS ALSO AND WAS A FOOL! WE NEED A GENERAL MANAGER PERIOD AT CARL PETERSON DOES KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT NFL FOOTBALL!

Honestly I don't see why he is rated worse than his twin brother. So he had a couple bad games snapping the ball. He looks bigger and stronger than Maurkice. Hopefully he will matchup well against the NT in our division... His goal is to be as good if not better than his bro Maurkice and by the look of him I believe it....

NFLBS @ 01:56 PM

Don't hide behind fake names, son. Come out & play! Show yourself!

FYI, I didn't say I am smarter. In fact, I said I understand the pick. Guess you missed it. Maybe you should work on your reading?

And again, you can bank on GM's who consistently get it wrong on players more than 50% of the time as your "proof" so to speak. The same ones who didn't take Montana until the 3rd. Brees until the 2nd. Brady in the 6th & so on. LOL

But, go ahead, keep on it! It's kind of amusing!

craig @ 2:04,
ireland was saying to himself last night, "$hit. if i knew belichek was going to draft solder i would have traded up for aldon smith."

Dan Halen,

@ 2:02 PM Excellent video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H0AhJ_d4Bo

Joe

There is always hope maybe Mallett will be around in round 3 by the Dolphins and then he can become the next Tom Bradey of the NFL.

DC-- I'm not really disagreeing with your point. But aside from Long, it really isn't fair to compare any of this crowd to Simms and Webb. It was pretty obvious what their natural positions were and there was never any need to screw around with them.

YOU GUYS NEED TO SEE THIS VIDEO, IT's F^UCKIN AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H0AhJ_d4Bo

I never said it was a guarantee he'd be good. But it's sure a risk I'd take for that arm! Teach him how to read the blitz better & let his arm do the rest!

Craig, I agree.

You could EASILY make the case that the two most conservative teams when it comes to drafting and free-agency are the Pats and Steelers.

Neither has a habit of trading up or going for the 'big splash.' Both are notoriously quiet in FA with few exceptions.

The team that has the longest record of trying to be splashy and making big moves is the Redskins, and how has that worked out for them?

I get the frustration. I share it. But doing things the Redskin way, with an owner who makes the kind of rash and impetuous decisions a fan would does NOT work.

Joe

What is this talk about "hiding behind fake names" Did you really think my name was NFLBS ?

this is the best thing I've ever read from Salguero. Good job. And no plugging your damn radio show!

DB,
you're right. the video is awesome. i definitely feel better about the pick after seeing that.

DB! love that video...

DC,

You've got to be a happy camper today. You didn't want Ingram at 15 and we didn't take him. I think you're going to get your running back in the 3rd or 4th round and I think there will still be good guys there.

What do you think of the Saints grabbing Ingram at 28. It's a good fit for them but boy....they gave up a lot to get him.

TRADE CHANNING CROWDER !!

Can the Dolphins FO please take a page out of the Belicheat's playbook and trade a quality player [sic]. If they can't get a mid-late 2nd round pick for him, they can at least grab a 2nd and swap picks & move back in a later round. With the 2nd round pick they can grab Mikel Leshoure.

Honestly, they're not likely to re-sign Crowder after this year when he's a free agent. They have decent depth there, esp. if they grab a LB in a later round (if an OLB then Misi can move inside). They clearly would not be losing much, that's why they went and got Dansby last year.

C'mon Miami! Make the move! TRADE CRANNING CHOWDER!

H*ll Belicheat got two 1st round picks for Richard f**king Seymour! The least they could do is get a 2nd rounder for Crowder.

Pouncey will not be a pro-bowler
Impact rbs will be all gone by pick 79
We don't need another slow plodding power back..we have lex hilliard
Offense needs speed at wr...rb and te sorely won't be able to get any in this draft. Don't say I didn't warn you. Prepare for another linebacker to be drafted and another d-lineman. No sizzle for the slowest most unexplosive offense in the league. 30th in pts 28th in yardage last year. What a joke!

like DB's video, and like the pick.

GUYS,

Credit for that video doesnt go to me. It goes to:

"FOR ALL WHO HATE THE POUNCEY PICK ON ACCOUNT

OF HIM BEING A SHODDY CENTER, PARTICULARLY HIS

SHOTGUN SNAPS.

HE IS PERFECT IN THIS VIDEO, PLEASE CHECK IT OUT."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H0AhJ_d4Bo


Posted by: Dan Halen | April 29, 2011 at 02:02 PM

"With the 48th selection in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select Rajneesh Dimandanopoo, long-snapper, Calcutta State."

C'mon, Al Davis. Entertain us all tonight with something completely incomprehensible.

I thought they'd try and trade with the Steelers maybe select Andy Dalton 31 but as that has came went I see now that they had no intention of trading away a starting C. Good pick although seeing Amukamara on the board still hurt a little. It's hard to tell how good DBs will actually be and Sean Smith played alright minus the dropped picks and we have Will Allen coming back... They filled a need I'm wondering if Mallet or Kaepernick fall to the 3rd... Dalton will almost certainly be picked by the Bills or Bengals early 2nd

Joe

Your last post was a good one 2:12 Now you know why Miami has did not draft him in the first. They just did not know if he would be good. Miami has to believe in him not us. I guess they didn't and that is why they did not draft him.

The QBs fell exactly as I've been saying yesterday...
Cam Newton
Jake Locker
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder (went a lot earlier than expected)
Andy Dalton
Kaepernick
Mallet

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