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Dolphins release preseason schedule for 2011

The Dolphins will do exactly what the headline above says they will do.

The team will announce that it is playing four preseason games in 2011, with one of those games being against Tampa Bay.

Last season, the Dolphins added Atlanta at home and at Dallas on the preseason schedule.

That's all I got for now.

What can I tell you? It's a lockout. News is scarce.

Update: OK, here it is. Drumroll please ...

The Dolphins preseason schedule according to the NFL begins Aug. 13 at the Atlanta Falcons. Carolina travels to Miami on Aug. 20 for the second preseason game. Miami travels to Tampa Bay on Aug. 27 for the important third game of the preseason. The preseason finale will feature the Dallas Cowboys traveling to Sun Life Stadium on Sept. 1.

Times of the games will be determined later. This, by the way, is from the official NFL schedule.

The Dolphins have released a schedule in which the dates are still up in the air. For example, the team is saying the Atlanta game will be played sometime between Agu. 12-15. The Carolina game will be played sometime between Aug. 19-22. The Tampa Bay game will be sometime between Aug. 26-29 and the Cowboys preseason-finale would be sometime between Sept. 1-2.

Know what? I'm going with the NFL schedule until further notice.

The only redundancy in the preseason and regular season schedule is the Cowboys, which Miami is scheduled to play in the regular season at Dallas.

The Dolphins and the Jacksonville Jaguars -- for years a staple of each other's preseason schedule -- will not renew their in-state festivities this preseason for reasons that are not clear. Carolina takes the place of the Jaguars, obviously.

Miami will not be featured on any nationally televised preseason games.

This obviously assumes none of the games are cancelled due to an ongoing lockout. If all or part of the preseason gets washed out, we'll just simply have to find something else to do. Yes, that is the state of the NFL today.

 

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DyingBreed--

I've heard that argument about Shula drafts countless times and it always comes across, ultimately, as an excuse.

Yes, the drafting odds would have been better had they been selecting higher, but that also means the team itself would have sucked, no?

I don't see the "consistent winning = bad drafting" formula applying to New England in the Belichick era.

The draft just wasn't a Shula strength at all. In facft, 90% of the talent he had for his greatest teams in the eraly 70's was INHERITED from Joe Thomas drafts and trades.

TREY,
MALLET OR STANZI COULD BE A BIG STEAL OR A BIG FAILURE ,WE ALL SHOOTING IN THE DARK AND SOME OF US WILL BE RIGHT AND SOME UNLUCKY ...............


DYING BREED SHOOTING WITH UZI AND THE REST OF US JUST SHOOTING WITH OUR MOUTH .

Aloco, the odds are that both will fail in becoming effective NFL starters, let alone stars at the position. As a matter of fact, the odds are HUGELY tilted that way.

A team using two of its first three (or four) picks on guys likely to never even play regulalrly is a situation no team is going to put itself into.

Can anyone name a team who has taken TWO QB's with so many question marks so high? Anyone? Ever?

CraigM,

Draft Locker? Why? If a guy has accuracy issues in college where recievers are 5-10yd open against db's. Wth is going to happen in the pro's where recievers are only open by 1-2yds?

That's the logic I dont understand.

Estoy tan emocionada! En unos minutos "The Price is Right " vendrá en mi televisión y yo seré capaz de ver el pene hermoso y orgulloso de Drew Carey!

Trey,

I totally agree with your 10:39 post and your 10:45 post.

Guys want to take mud and throw it against the wall and hope it sticks. It's no different than what we did drafting Beck, White and Henne. Keep drafting QBs until one sticks. Guess what?....none have stuck so far! Maybe the problem is not in drafting QBs but in giving them an environment where they can develop and where they will get support. Aaron Rodgers was an after-thought in GB. Most fans had probably already forgotten he was ont eh team. There was no pressure to play him and he could learn and watch in pressure free environment. We don't do that with our guys. We expect them to produce right away or in year two. Half the time these guys are lost and don't know what they are doing. Very different situations.

DBs plan to draft two QBs this year and have a GRAND total of having two years NFL experience between all three QBs this year makes NO sense. Henne goes down and you're forced to throw one of the kids to the wolves. Kiss the season goodbye! I'm fine with drafting a QB this year but we should sign one in FA who will work with Henne well and compliment his skill set and push him to get better.

Lastly, the failed years in the draft during the Shula years have nothing to do with finishing high in the standings. You can impact guys later in the standings, as we've seen from guys like Rodgers, Willis, Ed Reed, Polamalu, Reggie Wayne etc....These guys are out there. What we've done a poor job of doing is identifying these guys and landing guys like Fletcher, Avery, Ginn etc...It's the biggest reason we're mediocre.

Trey,

You can call the Shula draft situations excuse making by all. But you have to go back and look at each invidual draft, our draft position at the time, then you'll see there was very little options other than those Shula choose.

One thing I can say positive about Shula is that if a much better player were ever available he usually took them regardless of his needs. However, rarely does this happen when drafting mid to late every rd.

Go back and examine each individual draft and each individual rd during Shula's post championship years and you'll see most times he had very little option but to take those he did. Dont be lazy, go ahead and do it. Im sure your negative opinion will change. I've done it, that's why I know.

Andrew Luck was the ONLY college QB playing last year with anything even remotely close to a "can't miss" tag on him. The rest of these guys are just marginal.

A couple will no doubt succeed, the vast majority will flop...just as in any other year and any other draft.

Frankly, Chad Henne entered the NFL with more credentials and higher odds than most of these names I'm seeing.

None of it makes much difference thisn year, anyway. Unless the lockout ends VERY soon after the draft the only thing any of these rookie QB's will be doing is riding the bench the entire year.

CraigM's very favorite past time is to dispute anything I say. LOL, CraigM if you got off of your "lazy ass" and actually did some research instead of spewing your assbackwards opinions as gospel. Mybe one day you'll actually see the light.

Dont hate on us who actually put in the work@! LOL..........

I AGREE WITH YOU TREY.
DIDN'T I SAY DB SHOOTING WITH UZI ?

DB,

You might be right about Locker. I'm not sold on the guy either. I just don't understand how he can be the consensus number one pick one year and then drop likely out of the first round the next. Doesn't really make sense. Teams were wrong about Tom Brady for six rounds. There's a chance that teams could be wrong about Locker too. I'm not saying Locker is Brady Part Deux. I am saying that teams have been wrong before and could be wrong again. I am saying the idea of Locker as a late first round pick, with a second round pick still in our back pocket is as good as any of these other ideas that are being bandied about.

SHULA ALWAYS BEE AN OVERRATED COACH ,HE WAS COACHING WHEN THE LEAGUE PLAYING IN A SLOW MOTION .

DB,

I'm not the only one who's saying it pal....take a look in the mirror some time.

It's not the 'Gospel as per DB'.....

LOL...THE MINUTE GARIG M AGREES WITH DB,DB WAS WRITING TO GRAIG M INSULTING HIM ....................

True, Trey. And even the Great ones(Joe Thomas, JJ, Bobby Beathard,others) lost their mojo after some time. The Position that has as its responsability to acquire good players, is the most demanding in all of Sports.

we desperately need a qb that can extend plays,who can slide in the pocket to avoid sacks while continuing to look downfield. the qb must be mobile(unlike mallett or henne) and escape pressure by running on occasion. locker could make sense in that respect. i like kevin kolb as the young vet and greg mcelroy as a back-up to groom because of accuracy and smarts.

A team needs to invest in as many good qb's as possible. Seems almost every year as of late we've had our starting qb's gone down at one point of the other. But some here would have you believe hedging your bet at the qb position is "ludicrous"! LOL..............

Have they been actually watchimng the same Dolphins team the past 3yrs the rest of us watched? LOL.............

Don Francisco is maric-n? Hell, I didn't know that! o

DB,

AGREE WITH YOU WE HAVE TI INVEST IN MANY QB'S AS POSSIBLE .BUT I REMEMBER LAST YEAR YOU WERE SAYING WE GOT TO INVEST IN THE OL ... I AM NOT ATTACKING ,JUST DISAGREE .

ALoco,

It doesn't matter. I'm not interested in what the guy has to say about me. He thinks because I don't agree with what he has to say I'm wrong. I have no problem with him having an OPINION. What I have a problem with is when he thinks his OPINION is a FACT. Big difference!

gregz,

Mallet does slide very well in the pocket. Like Brady, he ran a terrible 40, so he automatically is labeled "immobile". LOL.........

unfortunately sparano never had a qb competition last year because he had already handed the job to henne after the 2009 season. lack of qb competition really hurt us as a team because alot of other guys were handed their starter position without earning it. our preseason was horrible especially playing starters in the last one when jake long suffered a bad injury that lingered thru the season.

greg z,

I think we can forget about Kolb. Philly will want at least a first for him and there will be competition for his services. To be honest, I think there's a big question that this guy is any better than Henne even and I think Philly feels the same way. Philly has much better weapons than us and Kolb hasn't done much in his time there. Tells me there are still question marks about him.

I don't know much about McElroy, other than he has good smarts. Could he be a good QB? Sure. I just don't get why there isn't more noise about him. That's a concern.

ALoco,

Sometimes I think you confuse me with some other posters. Before the start of last season I thought we were pretty set there and was as shocked as anyone else when Sparano sent both Grove and Smiley packing just before the season.

Also, While we're at it. ALoco, I barely even knew who Odrick was before last year's draft. That wasnt me pushing for Odrick last year neither! LOL............

DB,


WHEN GRAIG M DISAGREE WITH YOU ,WHY YOU RESORT TO INSULTS RIGHT AWAY ,NOT GIVING THE BACK AND FORTH TO TAKE HOLD FIRST AND ENJOY TALKING TO SOME ONE WITH DIFFERENT VIEW ?

ALoco, Football is the ultimate Team sport(because of the complexities). Now, what good can it do to have a great right-handed thrower if you don't protect his blind side? Now again, ask BP. Yes?

greg z,

Your 11:15 post is a good point. With the lack of anything really good out there in FA and the fact that FA may open late, do you see that changing much this year? I agree that was part of the problem last year but I don't believe this regime, if they can help it, will let that happen again this year.

ALoco,

You're wasting your breath with him. He's only interested in his own thoughts. Let him be....he's not worth the effort.

OSCAR,

YOU POSTING IN A VERY STRANGE WAY,YOU ASSUME BLOGGERS WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEANS ,STILL BP DRAFTED ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS AND PRO BOWLER IN LONG .

We dont need Kolb. Philly runs west coast offense, that's what thier qb's are trained for. That's probably why AJ Feely was such a terrible fit when we gave a 2nd rd'er for him.

You cant keep bringing in guys from entirely different offensive systems and thinking they'll adopt to yours. Especially when having to give up very high draft picks for them.

Its just like chess, you cant focus on an individual piece. You have to constantly be reading the "entire" board! LOL.............

Spending a 1st rd'er on Kolb then asking him to learn a system that's day and night from what he's spent 3yrs learning(west coast offense). Is a huge gamble. It already didnt work out with AJ Feeley. LOL..........

I NEVER BELIEVED IN WEST OR EAST OFFENSE ....IT'S ABOUT A QB THROWING THE BALL TO HIS WR'S .ISN'T DB ?


ALoco, I have never wanted to spoonfeed.

ALoco,

Im so use to CraigM attacking instead of discussing. Its just second nature to throw up the the anti aircraft defense! LOL............

I'd be happy with mallet at 15 pick. We need a QB and if they think mallet is the one the great. Just bring him in and let them compete.

OSCAR,

I KNOW .

That's another good point, Craig M. I also don't believe that there's much of value in FA. So, this Draft is MIGHTY important for us.

I agree with Boulder, if the Dolphins FO think they have their guy, then go ALL for it.

ALoco,

West coast offense's are usually pass heavy offenses designed mostly for very mobile qb's. There are different versions of it and varies from team to teams that use it.

Coventional offenses are more pocket oriented as varies on how pass oriented or not, depending on score and situations. West coast offenses usually heavily involves the rb's in the passing game too.

There are some caveats to drafting a QB high this year:

1. Do we want to spend a high pick on a QB that will not be able to help us in 2011 because the cba is likely to go on for sometime?

2. If there is a season and the fins don't do well, the general consensus is Sparano won't be back in 2012. Do you want to tie the hands of the next coach to a QB that may not be the player he wants in that position?

3. The fins currently have the fewest offensive weapons in the division, only one in Marshall, and he is too easily taken away with double teams. The jury is still out on all the other WR's and Fasano we know for sure will never be more than ordinary, and we have only one unproven RB on the roster. We desperately need to add at least two offensive weapons for the 2011 season to have any chance at scoring points. It would be wiser two use our first two picks to get two possible offensive weapons that can start in 2011, as opposed to a QB that is basically guaranteed not to start.

I realize we do need a QB of the future, but this season there are extenuating circumstances beyond normal, and we are still giving Henne another shot, so if we are indeed giving him another shot, lets not put the nails in the coffin just yet....maybe maybe maybe he will turn his game around. Things change too much from season to season, I believe you always have to give your best shot to winning it all in the upcoming season and not make too many sacrifices for future seasons, things just change too much.

DB,

WHAT'S EASIER SWITCH AN WEST COAST QB TO EAST OR MOVING AN CONVENTIONAL QB TO WEST ?

i just figured kevin kolb has had a few years of nfl grooming. i feel he is better equipped to step in as a starter than an unproven college qb without nfl experience. i'd gladly give up our 15th pick!!!! we could throw in ireland for free with the pick.

GREG Z,


IRELAND HAS A TRICK UP HIS SLEEVES ,HE WILL SIGN A QB IN FA ? WHO THAT COULD BE ?

Another potentially bad thing about getting Kolb is the guy could be damaged goods mentally too after being beat out by Vick and then discarded. If we dont know much about how strong this guy's mental makeup is, it could be a HUGE error to rush in with very high draft picks to offer in hand.

We could very well be purchasing a "Trojan Horse". LOL................

ALoco,

If there was a definitive answer to that question Im sure we would see qb's going back and forth between the two offensive systems all of the time and having great success. Great example, Montana going to KC.

But still can we say with high degree of certainty whether his lack of success there was due to eroding skill or different offensive philosophy. But if Joe couldnt successfully pull it off, you do have to at least raise brow too it.

He NEEDS to sign a QB in FA, ALoco. Now, I hope is Palmer, but from what I have read I think he's out(although no deal is impossible). Young, we don't need that here. Kolb, mightdomightdo, but at a discount rate. McNabb, ??? The other prospects, I don't know much about them. We need an experienced and enthusiastic QB now.

DyingBreed--

You seem to be responding to what you want to THINK I posted rather than the actual words.

I categorically stated that Miami DOES need to address the QB situation. What I called "ludicrous" was the suggestion that they invest two of their top three (or four) picks on guys with only a marginal shot---at best---of being effective NFL starters at the position.

You fancy yourself a student of the draft? In that case, you'd be aware that the odds of a rookie QB drafted after the first round becoming a difference-maker at the position drops precipitously as the draft progresses, to the point where those taken after the first few VERY rarely even make a team, let alone thrive. The Tom Brady exception is brought up so often precisely because it IS so staggeringly rare.

Yes, Miami needs an upgrade there but sound drafting is not just throwing darts and overreaching with low odds of success. No question the team is aware of the need (could they make it any more clear?) and will very likely take one, but to bypasas superior talent in a Quixotic effort to hope/pray a lower round QB turns into something special is something no wise team would do.

Great problem I see with the fa qb's this year are this:

Only two can even be psuedo looked at as being more than a shorterm answer. VY and Kolb. Problem with that is Henne's had far more starts than Kolb and knowone's seen enough og him as a starter to definitively to know if he's and upgrade or not.

VY now scary because his career accuracy numbers are far too low. He's yet to complete 60% of his passes in a single season. Even Henne's far more accurate. So giving up a high pick for either VY or Kolb comes with huge risk of failure.

Well, everything else available thru fa or trade, including McNabb, looks even less promising. Shanahan spent lots of time around Elway. If he's sour on McNabb Im sure its because he doesnt even see half a Elway left in McNabb.

Hate to say it but we maybe better off with Henne Starting this season then a guy like Mallet making a very strong push to unseat him in 2012. No matter what we do we arent going to win the SB nor the Afc east this season anyway.

How the heck could any of us guess what Kolb's "mental status" is?? As if you couldn't ask the same question of any of these rookies who have never even faced pro competition?

Not suggesting Kolb as an alternative. I haven't a clue if he'll thrive elsewhere (neither do any of you) but I'd suggest dropping the amateur psychology unless someone has definitive examples to offer as to Kolb being mentally "strong" or "weak."

One thing about Kolb I can assure people of is that the Eagles will NOT part with him at any kind of discount.

I live in Philly and Reid's favorable opinion of the guy is both genuine and long-standing. He was only beaten out by Vick because he played so extraordinarily well and cause so many problems for opposing defenses, not because Kolb was failing at all.

The Eagles are perfectly happy to keep Kolb as an (expensive) insurance policy unless someone is willing to part with nothing less than a first rounder or a combo of draft picks and starting-caliber players.

Trey,

Its just my stance with drafting Stanzi too is if the guy ever beat out Mallet we're good and if he only turned out to be great backup to Mallet we're still good having only invested a 4th rd'er. 4th rd'er for a great backup is tremendous value also.

Trey,

All I know for certain is that the "very limited" look we've all had at Kolb. There hasnt been anything to definitively suggest he'll be any better than Henne. Isnt that what we're looking to replace?

Nothing wrong with drafting someone who may turn into a solid backup but may I suggest that guy is possibly already on the roster and named Chad Henne?

Certainly, the team needs more from the STARTER at that position but a still-young guy with his physical skills wouldn't exactly be the worst scenario to have as a backup---and better than what most have there.

Not sure you need to draft someone younger (and ignore other positions of need) to replicate what is already there.


Okay -- pop quiz -- what's the worst Dolphin Draft pick of the past 20 years

1. Randill 'Thrill Hill'
2. Jason Allen
3. John Beck
4. Pat White.
5. Yatil Green
6. EDDIE MOORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (hint)
7. Cecil "The Diesel" Collins
8. Whatever it was we traded for A.J. Feely
9. Whatever it was we traded for Daunte Culpepper
10. Whatever it was we traded for Lamar Gordon.


Publicado por: Gary Stevens | April 13, 2011 at 09:07 AM

Usually I don`t go this far back commenting on a post but cosidering were talking mock drafts it`s a legit question and yes CraigM/Trey there have been some huge whoppers since we last smelled a SB.

Under Shula since the trade for Hugh Green that sent our 1`s and 2`s in 85/86 to Tampa we drafted:
Lorenzo Hampton RB/U.F. 84
John Bosa DE/B.C. 87
Eric Kumerow DE/O.S. 88
Sammie Smith RB/FSU....Passed on Emmit 90
Randall Hill WR/UM 91
Billie Milner OL/U.H. 94

JJ while rebuilding the D put up some real eye popping whoppers:

Daryl Gardner DT/Bay...Passed on Ray Lewis 96
Yatil Green WR/UM...Passed on Peter Boulware 97
John Avery RB/Ole Miss..Passed on Randy Moss 98
JJ Johnson RB..99

Wannstache was another killer:

Jammar Fletcher CB/U.W. PASSING ON DREW BREES !!! 2001

He later trades the picks for Ricky and one of them could have netted Ed Reed, Saban took J.Allen ahead of Cromartie, Cam passing on Patrick Willis for Ted Ginn ect.....

Whipping PUKE of myself and realizing I have to rethink my mock to include the absolutely bizare !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well then , Trey, what do you think the Dolphins FO might do to acquire a good, stopgap QB?(I am assuming that Henne will not cut it).

Without anything to definitively prove Kolb is any better than Henne. It seems ludicrous to reinvest a 2nd rd pick replacing the 2nd rd pick invested in Henne, or even worse a 1st rd pick for Kolb.


Trey,

All I know for certain is that the "very limited" look we've all had at Kolb. There hasnt been anything to definitively suggest he'll be any better than Henne. Isnt that what we're looking to replace?

Posted by: DyingBreed | April 13, 2011 at 12:24 PM

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I agree, and I'm not suggesting Miami trade for him (especially at what will certainly be a VERY high price).

I was just saying Reid and the Eagles have a legitimately high opinion of him and by all accounts would be bhappy with him as a startewr if not for Vick playing so extraordinarily well.

Trey,

Henne's a fa in 2012, he's already stated he wants to be where he has legit chance to start. If we draft Mallet 1st rd or foolishly trade 1st or 2nd rd pick for Kolb/Palmer. That's totally out of the question and Henne's bolting in 2012.

Henne's not hanging around to be a career backup.

fin4life--

Some puke-inducing drafts to be sure.

This is why I think we sometimes have amnesia in thinking Miami's drafting the past few years has somehow been worse than ever.

It hasn't been. It's actually been quite average and normal by NFL standards despite some notable busts.

The only truly outstanding period of drafting in Miami came during the very first few years under Joe Thomas. Consistently great. But even then, you wonder if it was more blind luck than any kind of "genius" ability to divine talent since Thomas was an absolute joke later in his career with both the Colts and Niners.

The nadir for Miami (to me, anyway) was the Spielman years. Bad drafts COMBINED with extraordinarily short-sighted and dumb trades that literally flushed away high draft choices. Ireland may have his misses, but I don't see him doing anything even remotely that panicky and stupid.

Why in Hel- should we give a #1 pick for somebody that was dethroned by a somewhat talented dogfighter and who won't last long in the NFL?! You are getting me steamed.

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