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Must never forget the RBs on Miami's radar

Enough about quarterbacks. We don't need no stinkin' quarterback!

(I jest.)

Yes, the Dolphins continue to be eyebrow deep in Ryan Mallet's visit, but they are also trying to address issues with their running back situation. Remember that Ronnie Brown, Patrick Cobbs and Ricky Williams are unsigned for 2011.

So the club today is also visiting with Kansas State's Daniel Thomas. He will be in town through Friday. Next week the club will be hosting a meet with Eastern Washington's Taiwan Jones, who is highly intriguing to me.

Thomas, a middle round candidate, looks the part of a Miami running back. He is 6-foot and 230 pounds. He isn't necessarily fast, having been timed in the 4.5 range. But he's something of a riddle on this one because he didn't run at the Indianapolis Combine and didn't the Senior Bowl due to a hamstring injury.

Thomas gained 1,585 yards on 298 carries in 2010.

He is by all accounts a great kid. Quiet. Son of a preacher. Team leader. That was very important to the Dolphins last year.

Jones, who is 5-11 and 195 pounds, is interesting based on his sheer speed and freakish hops. He had his pro day on Thursday and was timed in the 4.29 to 4.35 range, depending on which account you read and which scout is leaking the information. He also had a reported 41-inch vertical leap. There were 27 teams at his event.

Jones is not necessarily a full-time back. Teams think of him as a Chris Johnson type. If he produces like Chris Johnson, he'll be a stud. But I digress.

Jones comes with red flags. He has durability issues. He is coming off a broken foot that prevented him from participating in the Indianapolis Combine running drills. In fact, he was in a boot until a month ago. He had surgery on a sports hernia in 2009 that prevented him from participating in Spring practice last year. He also had a hand and shoulder injuries in 2009.

Oh, and he had a broken leg early in 2008.

Yeah, I know, it sounds like a disaster.

I didn't say he's a first overall pick.

I said he intrigues. He rushed for 1,742 last season and scored 14 TDs. He shared the Big Sky Conference Offensive Player of the Year award.

As you know the Dolphins need speed on offense. They need a home run hitter. Jones has scored on a 93-yard kickoff return and an 87-yard run from scrimmage.

I like him. A lot.

 

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this guy has to be on our radar

I think it makes more sense for us to get a young rb than a qb... This is far more interesting to me. To bad i am out for the night. take care.

go tawain go! tawain "my man crush" jones.

Broken foot √
Hernia √
Hand and shoulder issues √
Broken leg √

Sounds like a trade up to me

how does being the son of a preacher correlate into any presumption of character.....? and quiet...? what does being quiet have to do with character or playing football....? just wonderin

Good moves and GREAT speed, but a LOT of his runs from scrimmage are due to WIDE open holes by his line. He has nice hands too... I see a good return man when I watch him.

who gives a sh$t about the rb. there are so many rb's that are availabe out there and in the later rounds of the draft. get that QB NOW!

Scott, being the son of a preacher means:

1. The kid had a Godly man in his life to set an example. That is a plus considering statistics show most men in the penal system today had no father figure to set an example for them.

2. The kid has a moral code that was set out for him throughout his youth. While that does not guarantee he'll stay out of trouble, it suggests he'll be less likely to get in trouble.

3. Being quiet is better than being a locker room distraction. That should be pretty obvious.

I'm having a flashback to the draft where we took John Avery. I hope that the need for speed doesn't trump the need for size but simply puts more emphasis on it. I'd rather take a risk on someone from a smaller program than someone with a smaller body.

Who cares about Running Backs?!?!.

It's been 28 years since we've drafted a QB in the first round!

Since this is the weakest QB class since the game was invented, get that QB NOW!

YeeHaw!!!!

The quarterback position is way more important than the running back position. Mando, are you still on the Chad Henne bandwagon?

We do need a QB! We should draft a QB EVERY YEAR!

The cold hard reality of the situation is, if we draft one BEFORE the 5th round, we'll be vastly over paying.

You can't feast on a steak when all you've bagged is a DUCK!

Taiwan Jones can instantly improve special teams.

Ease him into the line up as a third down back.

Keep Lex, resign Ricky and draft Kendall Hunter and Taiwan Jones!

Problem solved.

ENOUGH WITH THE FREAKIN ADVERTISEMENTS

WHY IN GOD'S NAME ,WE ALWAYS GO LOOKING FOR UN HEALTH PLAYERS ?

ODINSEYE..........DID YOU WITNESS THE FIGHT BETWEEN DB AND GRAIG M TODAY ?

Armando,

How many men of the church have been accused, convicted or secretly shuffeled around due to sexual molestations of children? And how many of them don't we even know about?

One can not conclude 'Godly' fathers give better moral guidance than teachers, painters, shoe salesman, truck drivers, floor sweepers, boxers, lawyers. doctors, or garbage men.

From Armandos writing:

"Jones comes with red flags. He has durability issues. He is coming off a broken foot that prevented him from participating in the Indianapolis Combine running drills. In fact, he was in a boot until a month ago. He had surgery on a sports hernia in 2009 that prevented him from participating in Spring practice last year. He also had a hand and shoulder injuries in 2009.

Oh, and he had a broken leg early in 2008"

That is a lot of injuries in a very short period of time. If he was that beaten up in a weak college division, how will he with stand the NFL?

That is my concern with him. You don't want the biggest spark on your offense riding the bike when you need him most.

Odin...seriously @ 8:28...what makes this QB class so weak.....your words.....or whatever words you need to repeat from Mayock/Kiper.insert pundit here.....

Every SINGLE PLAYER has weakness and strength....FEW will come out NFL READY from snap 1....

A few more will be ready by DAY 1 (reg season)....and hopefully your 1st thr 3rd guys will be ready to play (NFL ready) by year 2.....

Even with all the prior injuries to Jones you tout him as the 2ND COMMING....

While at the same time down playing and disrespecting ALL the QBs in the draft.....

That thinking is does not stand up to the most basic test.....

Not on the risk scale......

will you blame Ireland and Sporano if it is discovered Jones has pre-exsting injury....

OX80,

WHERE ARMANDO FIND THESE DIAMONDS ? ....ODRICK 2

GOOD POINTS KRIS ....

I HOPE ROSS HAS HIS MONEY IN A SAFE PLACE .

PLEASE IRELAND........ GET JONES OF YOUR DRAFTING BOARD .

ALSO TAKE OFF MARK INGRAM OF THAT BOARD .

NOW... PUT KOLB ON THAT BOARD .

Wow!

I was just catching up on the last blog. Pretty "controversial" argument going on there.

I don't want to get into the name calling and I'm surely not going to defend ANYONE!

I will say that I'm not afraid to make bold statements. I'm not afraid to admit that I change my mind sometimes too. I have and I will. What's the big deal? It's only one guys opinion.

I skipped over a lot of it, but from what I can tell, it was about Stanzi.

I'll make a bold statement about Stanzi. If you don't like it, sue me.

Walter Football updated their QB rankings on the 11th.

They got Newton at 2, Mallet at 7 and Stanzi at 8.

I don't care what anybody says-PERIOD(heh heh). I don't care what GM drafts who, where. I will guarantee that of the three, Stanzi will by far be the better NFL quarterback.

I think Newton will prove to be a fluke. Mallet will do his very best Ryan Leaf imitation. Stanzi will sit for a year, maybe a year and a half and then go on to become a top ten NFL QB.

THERE! I said it! I'll say it again too!!!!

ODIN,

I DON'T WRITE VERY GOOD ENGLISH BUT THAT FIGHT BETWEEN DB AND GRAIG M TAUGHT ME A LOT OF NEW BAD WORDS .

Thanks Aloco....

The Youtube clip was impressive.... no doubt.....I take nothing away from that...Jones is fast and he ran away from many a tackler on those clips....

But lets take it down a notch.....

Chris Johnson is one of those rare....once in a Generation backs.....his kind isn't a dime a dozen....

Its a rare cobination when a football player has that much speed and football savy......

He is FAST...no denying that...but so are alot of backs.....he understands, and has a rare knack for HOW to run with the football....he knows how to set up blocks....when to turn it on....and when to lay back...

What Chris Johnson does is not equally duplicated.....if it was....many teams would just draft the fastest guy...convert him to a running back...and BAM...INSTANT CHRIS JOHNSON......

but thats not the case.....and we haven't seen a player like Chris Johnson since....Maybe Napoleon Kaufman.....and even Napoleon Kaufman was only have the back Chris Johnson is......

Speed does not equal talent.....ask Buffalo

Aloco,

I did some searching around today. The only single comment I found anywhere was this:

" Lombardi suggested that Ingram has an arthritic condition..."

So just think about that. What does that mean actually? He thinks he as arthritis? He 'suggests' he has it? Did a Dr. tell him this? He doesn't say, it is not said anywhere. The only singly comment I found was Lombardi, who is not a Dr, suggested that he may have it,


So you see? Its very hypothecil, not very conclusive. If the Dr. that examined him said so I would believe it. Not sure how Lombardi who is a sports writer, not a doctor, can 'suggest' something like that without giving more substantial evidence.

It has nothing to do with me not wanting admit I was wrong, its not a right or wrong scenario. It's really only a question of how valid that report is. If I find out the player I like was suddenly determined to have brain cancer, of course I would no longer support the idea of drafting him.

0X80, two things:

I said the kid's father is a preacher, not a priest. There is a difference.

Secondly, I don't want to turn this into a big religious debate on the football blog, particularly since some folks don't worship or even believe in God. So if you wish to discuss the topic with me, email.

But suffice to say that maybe YOU cannot conclude preachers are better dads than those other folks you mentioned. I can. We do not have the same opinion.

WHERE'S SOILEDBOTTOM WHEN YOU NEED HIM? I FEEL SO SOILED RIGHT NOW! lol..........

I got to check out this last Blog.....

be back in a few min....PERIOD.....lol

Scott, being the son of a preacher means:

1. The kid had a Godly man in his life to set an example. That is a plus considering statistics show most men in the penal system today had no father figure to set an example for them.

2. The kid has a moral code that was set out for him throughout his youth. While that does not guarantee he'll stay out of trouble, it suggests he'll be less likely to get in trouble.

3. Being quiet is better than being a locker room distraction. That should be pretty obvious.

Armando Salguero | April 14, 2011 at 08:12 PM


Armando,

Are you the son of Latin Immigrants ? I ask because being one I can tell you that the biggest junkies in the making, (time only proved me right) aren`t in the public school system. They are hands down in the Private School system or for that matter the biggest tired a/s hookers came from repressed Church going girl on girl school`s in Miami, as someone in the Latin Culture I understand this to be fact !!

I think we need to stop all the inuendos about what we have heard about a player or not, it`s B.S. and you know it. I can make a case for M.Irvin (The Playmaker) never even getting drafted based on his time at the U. Do you as a young reporter remember Irvin running over a student because he wouldn`t get out of his way?
I promise if you ask JJ he does !

You started this with an interesting question to your blogg following,(us) do we think Ryan Mallett is worth the 15th. pick not what we thought of his religous Dogma and the answer varied, you got 9 diff. amswers in 10 regarding who you asked. I thought you were on to something but I`ve got to tell you that his religion or political affiliation mean little on the field, as a matter of fact they mean nothing.

If you want to impress me tell me how the kid who`s Dad sells Crack overcame the odds, that`s a story, I imagine the kind reporters live for, a real tear jerker !!!!

0x80,

i wish ingram the best...think about the agony he's going through .it's his LIFE BREAD AND BUTTER ....I WISH A TEAM WILL DRAFT HIM IN THE FIRST ROUND BUT NOT US .


WHAT LOMBARDI SAID ,IT'S TRUE ...SINCE YESTERDAY INGRAM'S AGENT DIDN'T COME OUT TO DENY IT AND THAT SEALED IT AS FACT .LOMBARDI WOULD NOT COME OUT AND SAY SUCH THING WITHOUT HAVING THE INFO COMING FROM A DOCTOR .

Draft Johnny White, RB out of North Carolina. He can run, block and catch. He' big and can run.

SOME PLAYERS WITH ONLY A MOTHER IN THEIR LIFE HAVE WORKED MUCH BETTER THAN HAVING A DRUNK FOR A DAD .

Exciting offensive players are good to consider but Jones seems like a Hester type. A nice addition if everything else is working...not a building block. Still like that we are probably upgrading at QB first...not sold on Mallet. He seems brighter than Henne for sure and could mature but also seems to have some similarities. All the big arm stuff, spoiled by all the praise he's gotten his whole life, and may not be able to gut it out when the stakes are high. In general, I think we end up making the wrong choice on QB seeing as we drafted Henne in the first place. I would like to be wrong.

Armando,

I appreciate your response and opinion. I won't belabor the point since you've mentioned you don't want to turn the blog into religion. Fine. I just believe you find every type of person in every type of profession. That is what my life experience has shown me. We can agree to disagree on that.

Armando,

I raised in a southern baptist home with a preacher stepfather and a preacher grand father. I can tell you some real horror stories about that.

Not to mention my grandmother ended up killing my grandfather in self defense. My stepfather ended up committing suicide in the backyard of he and my mother's home when I was about 23yrs old.

Dont buy to much into this man of the cloth thing. There's so much they dont show the rest of the public on the surface and many terrorize thier very own homes.

Muslims arent the only religious terrorists. They come in all forms in all religions. They just differ in how, who, and terror weapons of choice.

My father was as far from a religious type as you could get, but he was a great dad! I had several friends whose dads were preachers, or priests and they were Aholes to their families. Sometimes people hide behind their religion. Fake facade!

Aloco,

Well that is just where we are different. How do you know what Lombardi says is true? Do you think just because he is a well known sports writer everything he says his fact? Look at the wording...he 'suggests' it.

Not going to argue the point further. I am simply saying I need more sound evidence regarding a medical condition than a reporter simply suggesting a player might have something. That is not conclusive.

I'll keep looking around to see if any other news comes out on it though. And if I do find something, I for sure will post it here.

THE KNIVES ARE OUT FOR MALLET .... NFL JAMIE DUKES SAID OF MALLET (( HE'S KIND OF A CAUCASIAN STREET GUY,HE'S KIND OF EMNEM SLASH VANILLA ICE IN HIM AND IT'S UNSETTLING ))...........

THESE EXPERTS ARE JUST EVIL,THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ANY ONE BUT THEMSELVES .

Thank you, 0X80.

Gents, you can find bad folks in every sector of society. There are exceptions to every rule. But that doesn't change the rule.

Having said that, please move on. This is not bash people of faith night on Dolphins in Depth.

Topics more suited for this space: Football. RBs. Draft. Mando's outstanding writing and highly successful radio show. Please!

I ASK EVERY ONE TO READ DB POST @ 9;45...IT'S A MASTER PIECE .

Armando,

Because of what I actually I actually experienced and witness within my own family. Itrust men of the cloth about as much as politicians.

If you are wise, so will you.

PLEASE,

LISTEN TO ARMANDO'S SHOW ON THE RADIO EVERY DAY 6;00 AM-10,00 AM ...THE SHOW IS GETTING BETTER LATELY ...........

Kris,

Odin...seriously @ 8:28...what makes this QB class so weak.....your words.....or whatever words you need to repeat from Mayock/Kiper.insert pundit here.....

-Those are MY WORDS. I don't need any talking heads or pundits to form an opinion.

-I was exaggerating when I said the weakest QB draft class ever. That was just to make my point(to Dolphin77). I don't think we should use our first round pick on a QB.

-Having said that, I'll tell you that IN MY OWN OPINION, I believe this is one of the weakest QB draft classes in a LONG time. Maybe not of all time, but definitely a top ten in the weakest ever.


Even with all the prior injuries to Jones you tout him as the 2ND COMMING....

-I Never said any such thing! I simply said what I honestly believe. I'll say it again. I think Jones will instantly improve our return game. I also think he can develop into a good to maybe great 3rd down back.

-I'll admit there are all kinds of red flags with Jones, but I'm not going to argue that. With him being projected as a 4th or 5th rounder, with his talents and speed, I'd be willing to pull the trigger.

-I do have reservations about his durability, that's why I see him as a return specialist and 3rd down back at the most.


While at the same time down playing and disrespecting ALL the QBs in the draft.....

-Not ALL the QB's. I like Stanzi and Gabbert. I don't think Ponder, Kap and Dalton are all that bad either, though I still see the later three as major projects. Sorry you misinterpret this as disrespect. I'm just calling it like I see it. I'm not parroting any pundits at all, I got Stanzi rated as the best QB in this class.


will you blame Ireland and Sporano if it is discovered Jones has pre-exsting injury....

-NOPE! I still don't blame Ireland for Odrick's injury. I believe if the information was available pre-draft, they would've had it.
-If it could be established that they did know of an alleged condition(osteoporosis)pertaining to Odrick, I'd probably feel quite a bit different.


Thoughts?


ALoco,

What I posted at 9:45PM is true. Its no made up BS.

That was classic.....sorry I missed that real time.....

DB,

I DO RESPECT WHAT YOU SAID OF TRUTH YOU LIVED WITH .

Aloco,

I'll always miss Armando's 6:00AM-10:00AM radio show. My coffee pot doesnt usually turn on until 10:00AM. LOL................

REDSKY,

WE DON'T DOUBT THAT YOU LIVED WITH GREAT DAD AND IT SHOWS .

dying, we've had dissimilar life experiences. It has taken us to different conclusions.

Except for what you're about to post about my columns ....

... And my radio show ....


... and this blog ...

... and my time on ESP, ok nevermind that last one.

Thank you, Aloco.

I AM PROUD THAT I AM POSTING ON A SITE WHERE THE WRITER ARMANDO IS VERY BUSY MAN WITH RADIO,BLOG AND ESP .... I JUST WISH HE STOPS FINDING US THESE INJURED PEOPLE TO DRAFT .

Armando,

Because of my upbringing I was a very angry and troubled kid got in lots of trouble and didnt care. If it were illeghal and there was a dollar to be made I was all in with zero conscience.

Im much older now and have come into a thing called spirituality. It has really pretty much changed my life and settled me down. Before hand I was in a full flight rebellion against religion and society as a hole. I blamed everything and everyone for what I experienced growing up in a preacher led southern baptist home.

I have now pretty much come to terms with it all.

Thanks for sharing, Dying.

Aloco, I do not find players for the Dolphins to draft. I find information on players the Dolphins have shown an interest in meeting, working out, signing, drafting, or just having a few beers with.

OK, folks. I'm out. New post up tomorrow afternoon for sure. And remember, I will post my one and only mock draft on April 24 and ask you to post your first round on that day as well. So start preparing now.

DB,

I try to stay out of personal issues. But I just got to say, sorry to hear about those tragedies you went through so early in life.

I'm glad to know you persevered, keep your head up Bro!

Odin....of course some of my rhetoric was an exaggeration (it makes for more dramatic writing)...and I know you won't take it to seriously......

but seriously.....I DO blame the FO for not doing better homework or med work on O-rdick (the O is for Osteoperosis)....

I don't think a guy with an Injury history rivaling that of a 10 year VET is worth a 1st rd pick....especially if your argument is he will improve my special teams (KICK RETURNs are now near irrelevant) AND become a 3rd down back.......

I say NO THANKS SIR.....we already drafted Ted Ginn.....In the 1st rd.....for some of those same reasons.....Speed does not equal talent.....

wait.....just went back to read and dispute more of your argument.....and i see this.....Take Jones in 4-5th rounder....

WELL...why didn't you say so in the 1st place.....THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING......

Carry on Sir.......

and a VALHALLA to you.......

Armando,

I guess thats why Im a little obsessive here at times. There have been many times where being as accurate as possible in figuring things out was literally life or death.

Old habits are hard to break! LOL...........

HAPPY EASTER ON 24 APRIL TO ALL .ONE BEAUTIFUL HOLIDAY .

THE KNIVES ARE OUT FOR MALLET .... NFL JAMIE DUKES SAID OF MALLET (( HE'S KIND OF A CAUCASIAN STREET GUY,HE'S KIND OF EMNEM SLASH VANILLA ICE IN HIM AND IT'S UNSETTLING ))...........


THESE EXPERTS ARE JUST EVIL,THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ANY ONE BUT THEMSELVES .

Posted by: ALoco | April 14, 2011 at 09:48 PM


I like Jamie Dukes. Most of the time.

I agree 100% I see what he's talking about in Eminem and Vanilla. It IS unsettling.

Probably doesn't mean much, but yeah, unsettling. Good word!

odinseye,

Thanks buddy!

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