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Must never forget the RBs on Miami's radar

Enough about quarterbacks. We don't need no stinkin' quarterback!

(I jest.)

Yes, the Dolphins continue to be eyebrow deep in Ryan Mallet's visit, but they are also trying to address issues with their running back situation. Remember that Ronnie Brown, Patrick Cobbs and Ricky Williams are unsigned for 2011.

So the club today is also visiting with Kansas State's Daniel Thomas. He will be in town through Friday. Next week the club will be hosting a meet with Eastern Washington's Taiwan Jones, who is highly intriguing to me.

Thomas, a middle round candidate, looks the part of a Miami running back. He is 6-foot and 230 pounds. He isn't necessarily fast, having been timed in the 4.5 range. But he's something of a riddle on this one because he didn't run at the Indianapolis Combine and didn't the Senior Bowl due to a hamstring injury.

Thomas gained 1,585 yards on 298 carries in 2010.

He is by all accounts a great kid. Quiet. Son of a preacher. Team leader. That was very important to the Dolphins last year.

Jones, who is 5-11 and 195 pounds, is interesting based on his sheer speed and freakish hops. He had his pro day on Thursday and was timed in the 4.29 to 4.35 range, depending on which account you read and which scout is leaking the information. He also had a reported 41-inch vertical leap. There were 27 teams at his event.

Jones is not necessarily a full-time back. Teams think of him as a Chris Johnson type. If he produces like Chris Johnson, he'll be a stud. But I digress.

Jones comes with red flags. He has durability issues. He is coming off a broken foot that prevented him from participating in the Indianapolis Combine running drills. In fact, he was in a boot until a month ago. He had surgery on a sports hernia in 2009 that prevented him from participating in Spring practice last year. He also had a hand and shoulder injuries in 2009.

Oh, and he had a broken leg early in 2008.

Yeah, I know, it sounds like a disaster.

I didn't say he's a first overall pick.

I said he intrigues. He rushed for 1,742 last season and scored 14 TDs. He shared the Big Sky Conference Offensive Player of the Year award.

As you know the Dolphins need speed on offense. They need a home run hitter. Jones has scored on a 93-yard kickoff return and an 87-yard run from scrimmage.

I like him. A lot.

 

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I don't know armando, this kid looks alittle small to play RB in the NFL. Most of the highlights are open field break aways in which, yes, the dude is really fast. Looks like a perfect physique to play CB.

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What did Brian Sochia or Gene Atkins ever do?

What makes them human scum?

My favorite liquor in no particular order is, Jack Daniels and Jim Beam and Jack Daniels.

Oh wait, did I say Jack Daniels already?

I like Rum!

Look up Gene Atkins police record sometime, odinseye. It's a doozy (includes battery and insurance fraud among other gems)

As for Sochia, I had some contacts within the team back then (TJ Turner being one). The guy was a nutcase who often voiced racial slurs and other really ugly stuff around his teammates. Also was fond of bringing loaded guns into the locker room. How and why Shula out up with his sorry ass so long is a mystery, since he SUCKED as a player on top of being a cretin as a human being.

Nearly forgot: Atkins was also convicted of arson. Charming guy.

Y'know, part of the reason that 1995 Dolphins team (Shula's last) blew up in his face so spectacularly is because he brought in some talented guys who were real losers in the character department, with Atkins leading the parade.

I suppose that Taiwan Jones would be worth taking, if only because he proves that "No man is an island" is wrong....

Favorite beer: Samuel Smith Oatmeat Stout, Dogfish Head Chicory, Breckenridge Vanilla Porter, Chimay Red Label, Bell 90 Minute IPA

Least favorite: Coors, Bud, and the rest of the flavored, stale water.

Defiantly and unapologetically a beer snob!

Oh, and Monk's Flemish Sour Ale. But don't bother trying to find it!


I suppose that Taiwan Jones would be worth taking, if only because he proves that "No man is an island" is wrong....

Posted by: nickzi | April 15, 2011 at 01:42 PM

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LOL

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Least favorite: Icelandic, Canadian (rotting shark flesh and soggy fries covered in gravy and cheese curds. Meed I say more?)

Stan,

While I am thankful for the info on the scumbags, don't hold your breath on me inviting you over for some Milwaukee's Best Ice!

Snob Indeed!

Odinseye, lol.

I admit it. Have also spent as much as 35 bucks on a mixed 6-pack from a beer snob emporium near me...which would probably also classify me as clinical!

Glad to be of service with the "scumbag" info.

I like to make myself useful around here.

You are what your label says you are.

Cost to taste comparison ratio-Budweiser = THE STANDARD!

King of Beers? Eh, not so much!

That is one sad Kingdom if Budweiser is lording over it. I don;t think Bud could even handle running that make believe kingdom on Mr. Rogers.

Back to Dolphin scumbags for a moment: Can't forget about dear old Lawrence Phillips, but he was pretty much a KNOWN douche when JJ brought him in, whereas a guy like Atkins took more time and care to finely hone his scumbaggery skills.

I wonder what "Milwaukee's Worst" tastes like? Somebody should market it (maybe have a bratwurst-flavored version)

I don't know Stan. I think I like talking about Beer more than scumbags.

As soon as I finish my plain Baloney sammich, I'm going to "distill" my empty liquor bottles down to one good shot.

Then it's off to the local liquor store to cash in the bottles I've collected all week.

It may only be worthy of a make believe Kingdom, but it's MY make believe Kindom!

PS: I hope they got some good sized cigarette butts in the ash can outside the door.

Snob Beers Stan Left off the List:
Corsendonk
Framboise "Lambic"
Hoegaarden
Chimay "BLUE LABEL", or is it Trippel

Unless the idiots are planning on trading Henne, WE DO NOT NEED A QB!!! Henne's perfomance was hancuffed by Henning & I hear rumors that the dipsticks are possibly trading Henne to the highest bidder!!! WE NEED A RB!!!

I hate it when Women want to talk about relationships.

They don't like to hear it, but it's always the same:

1. Relationships? As long as you're not running your mouth too much, I'll have "relationships" with you as often as I possibly can.

2. Relationships? Get serious, I'm old enough to be your Dad. I got kids your age!

3. Relationships? How about you relate your sister on over with you tonight? We can do some really sick role playing games!

4. Relationships? GREAT! How much does THAT cost?

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Killer, with all due respect (and remember I said with all due respect), you're an a-hole. Ok, just kidding about that.

But seriously, I agree that Miami would be stupid if they traded Henne right now, however, I disagree with you that we do not need a QB.

Henne should be given 1 more shot to show and prove. But the starting position should not be just served on a silver platter (like last year). Henne needs competition. He needs to know that if he screws up like last year, it'll be his last hurrah. Also, the MIAMI DOLPHINS need INSURANCE that Henne won't single-handedly ruin this upcoming season (yes, I know, he didn't single-handedly ruin last season either, he had lots of help, but he was a part of that disaster).

And if you want proof that Henne isn't a sure thing, this is from Pressure Point, on espn.com:

There wasn't a player who disappointed me more in 2010 than Chad Henne. I expected Henne to take a huge step forward as a full-time starter with an entire offseason to prepare for that role, but he did not. In fact, he played terribly...

...Can Henne rebound in 2011? I think he can, but I am not betting the farm on it. Even when conditions were optimal, Henne left far too many plays on the field last season. But there was a reason I was high on Henne a year ago. He can really throw the ball, and he did show a lot of promise during 2009.
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So Henne bouncing back isn't a sure thing by a longshot. We need a backup who can step in and be credible if Henne falters. I hope he doesn't, and proves his critics wrong, but the team would be wise not to bet solely on Henne, because if they get burnt, and have no one worthy behind him to take over the reins, it'll be a sad season finale for the soon-to-be ex coach Tony Sparano.

The kid jones is exactly the type of open field runner with speed the Fins need. Barring the injury bug, maybe worth a 3rd rounder? All I know is they need speed all over the roster and I've been saying it since this regime took over. It has been so apparent that they need to be perfect on every drive in order to score. No QB can do that. I'm not the biggest Henne fan but this team doesn't score unless they have 11 or 12 play drives. You don't score much if their aren't HR hitters in the lineup somewhere.

would love Thomas. perfect fit. can run wildcat too if Phins decide to keep that pkg.

Jones seems interesting. Noel Devine would be a great complement also. can help in return game as well

You aren't kidding Armando. This dude is a stud. I love the way jones stays so low to the ground and yet runs so fast. Its dangerous. I asked my friend who started for eastern washington about this guy and he said he was an absolute freak. But thats pretty obvious watching the video

So, if he was playing well could you say "Taiwan On?"

Dodsworth/Stan

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Favorite Dolphins: Dan Marino, Larry Csonka (The rest mentioned are pieces, these 2 were franchise makers)

Least Favorite: I have none really but Brian Sochai and Gene Atkins are solid candidates, Atkins went to prison for Attempted Murder of a business patner because of a loss of money, scum bagg ! Sochai in a hold oput in 89 waited for the team returning from Buffalo were we lost wearing a Bills jersey !!!

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Aloco, while Ben Franklin signed the Declaration of Independence and is on the 100 dollar bill he was never a U.S. President

Last Night I watched "ALL" of the major rb's expected to go in the 2011 draft and payed close to each's running style. Here: my conclussion as to top 3:

1. Ryan Williams

Watching his running style he seems to have a style that's more condussive to having the greatest longevity in this year's crop and he's very productive.

2. Mark Ingram

Maybe the best 2nd level, running in "tight spaces" rb in the draft. With rumors swirling about the knee, his longterm longevity in the NFL maybe a legit issue.

3. Mikel LeShoure/Daniel Thomas

Thing is, with this kid I see the exact same player with Daniel Thomas of Kansas. Seems Thomas can be had later too.

I stopped my evaluation here because we begin to get into smaller speedier breakaway type rb's. There's always a huge question as to NFL longevity with these types. Usually 2-4yrs of really great production then injuries or Nfl wear and tear leads to thier decline.

So with the smaller speedier rb's I think you can take and throw them all up in the air, then which ever hits the ground 1st you can choose. Most are going to only have 2-4yrs heavy duty production at best anyway.

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So as I said:

1. Ryan Williams
2. Mark Ingram (Possible longevity issue)
3. Mikel LeShoure/Daniel Thomas

As you read Armando's column he says the fins did have Thomas in for a visit yesterday. He's a big power rb with a very similar running style to LeShoure, and is a very productive rb.

Could be a later rounds steal.


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Posted by: ALoco | April 15, 2011 at 04:07 PM

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Where the hell did you learn history, a chicken farm?

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FISH SEAN = CUBAN GANG OF DEFEAT MEMBER

wtf???

As ALoco stated, Ingram could bring longevity risks because of swirling risks about the knee. Or you could end up with about 3/4's Emmitt Smith at worst. Teams will have to weigh risk vs reward on Ingram in deciding to take or not take him early.

But dont be surprised if on draft day Irelands takes this Daniel Thomas kid mid round while adding one of these speedier types too.

YES IT IS TRUE MR IRELAND WILL SEE THIS FROM THE DOCTORS AND TELL HIM TO GO AWAY (((WE DO NOT NEED PLAYERS ON CRUCHES))) SO INGRAM WILL GO DOWN FARTHER TO PHILADELPA MAYBE WHERE BEN FRANKLIN WAS BORN

With the smaller speedier rb's, because of longterm durability issue. I think you just continue to draft one mid to late rounds every 2-3yrs.

Wow! Todd McShay is now projecting Taiwan Jones to come off the board 3rd rd.

But still like I said, these smaller speedier types seem to have a 2-4yr high impact NFL shelf life. See: "Fast Willie Parker".

Jordan Toddman could be great mid round "value pick" too. He's a in between the tackles rb with decent speed and a nice but not spectacular running style.

Damn I wish Henne showed more promise as a downfield and redzone qb. I would have loved going into this draft without qb as primary item on our draft day shopping list.

Back to Jordan Toddman, he seemed to have the ability to bounce it outside in college. But in college, because some teams play such shoddy edge run defense, almost any rb can bounce it to the outside.

The question is, can these rb's bounce it to the outside with even semi consistent success against nfl calibre edge run defenses? Defenders play the edge far better on the nfl level than in college.

Armando,

Daniel Thomas does seem to be very similar to Mikel LeShoure. You listed his 2010 production numbers and they seem to be similar also.

Guys,

When you put each and everyone of 2011's rb draft prospects undermneath the fine microscope. There are no franchise rb's in this draft. The best we can hope for with any of these guys is go with who we think will give the most longevity and productivity.

Therefore there really isnt a single rb in this entire draft truly worthy of selecting before late-late 1st rd, if that. However, this is a very solid and procutive class of rb's.

If we think Walter Payton, Eriic Dickerson, or Emmit Smith is in this draft. We could be seriously scratching for "fool's gold".

productive

As you all know, I am on the Mallet at #15 bandwagon. But as draft day creeps nearer questions about his mental makeup are creeping in. Seems this is where the "Ryan Leaf" and "Jeff George" comparisons are coming from.

I really dont think this kid is as mentally belligerant as those two, and those should be prime examples to him as what not to do. But those Leaf and George comparison will continue to be out there when experts are not 100% sold on a qb's "mental makeup."

It doesnt mean a qb will follow those footsteps, but those comparative "red flags" will always be accessed to them. Lets call it the "George/Leaf" syndrome if you will.

It always comes down to mayonnaise.

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If Mallet's mental makeup passes the "acid test" on the nfl level, this kid has a chance to become one of the "all time" greats. He certainly has the neccessary tools to accomplish this.

I do not want to call it the "George/Leaf" syndrome. Please refrain from asking me to do this in the future.

I will call it the "Gorgonzola/Nuclear Bette Davis" syndrome. You may continue to use your own name for it.

DB,

When Shanahan drafted Cutler, it was a total surprise. They didn't work him out, show a shred of interest in him.

He might have the same game plan in mind with Mallet.

Just food for thought.

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Oh my............oh my.......... oh my...my...my!

0x80,

If anyone takes Mallett earlier than #15, that's always who I thought would do it. Shanahan has zero regards as to the critics opinion when it comes to a guy he believes in.

Shanahan is that one guy with big enough balls to pull the trigger on Mallet early.

Ireland needs to look out for these QB's that have Gorgonzola/Nuclear Bette Davis syndrome. They may have great field presence and superior arm strength but that won;t matter much if they're the Gorgonzola/Nuclear Bette Davis type that needs constant babysitting.

Tony Eason was supposedly that type. Great skill set, but his propensity for Gorgonzola/Nuclear Bette Davis-type behavior finally wore out his coaches and teammates.

Shanahan seeking a critics opinion would be like the head of Japans nuclear power plants calling me to ask what they should do next. Of course my advice to them still may be the best: RUN!

0x80,

I dont think you can totally rule out Elway doing it Denver either. Denver's projected to take a defensive player, but this Elway's 1st draft, he hasnt given Tebow exactly a glowing endorsement, Orton's more of a checkdown thanfield passer, and finally. Being a great hof qb himself, he fully realizes the importance of having a great downfield passer.

This being Elway's 1st draft and being a former great qb himself. He may be just "green" enough to pull the trigger too. If Elway did pull the trigger it would probably be day one's most shocking event! LOL.......

"Orton's more of a checkdown than downfield passer"

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