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Day Two of the draft is about to begin and two questions dominate:

Will the Dolphins trade into the second round?

As to getting into the second round, I have serious doubts the Dolphins will use their limited ammo to get into the round. That is obviously just a prediction, but I have a hard time believing Miami will invest the kind of capital necessary to come from nowhere to the the second.

That would require the Dolphins giving up their 2012 first round pick.

If the idea is for them to use their third round pick to try to move up into the second round, they still would have to yield either their fourth-round selection or perhaps the third rounder plus a high pick next year. Again, that is a prohibitive price.

I'm not saying the Dolphins would never pay such a price but ...

“I think you can always get ammunition," Ireland said yesterday abou tthe prospects of moving up. "I mean, look what Atlanta did. You always have ammunition I think. You can use your picks up until 2014 if you wanted to. We had a couple players on the board that if they fell to a certain spot then we might have jumped up, but we didn’t choose to do that.”

Comments

[matt]

oh my...don't like this pick at all.

[0x80]

Daniel Thomas - Kansas St. (HT: 6-0¼ - WT: 230)
Combine 40: DNP - Position Rank: 4 of 35

Positives: Has very long legs, is a long strider who glides with the football... Strong upper body allows him to shed arm tackles, gets a lot of yards after contact... Patient runner, very smart with the football, has great vision... No significant red flags with injury history or character concerns... Played two years of JUCO ball and two years at Kansas State, ran for 2,850 yards and 30 TD at Kansas State... North/south runner who has a nose for the end zone... Could be used as a goal line back... Has run plays out of the wildcat, played quarterback at his junior college, could fit well with a team that runs a lot of wildcat formations... Large upside, only has two years experience as a running back.

Negatives: Runs too upright, will be prone to injury... Does not have great long speed, is more of a bruiser... Has more upper body strength than lower body, his base appears a bit weak and most of his power comes from up top rather than driving with his legs... Below average receiver out of the backfield, doesn't have great hands and struggles running crisp routes... Would like to see him wrap the ball up better when fighting through trash, too often he leaves the ball visible to defenders... Will be a 24 year old rookie... Lacks explosion, is more of a slow twitch runner, may struggle shaking tacklers at the next level... His upright running style gets him knocked off balance too easily and it allows him to be pushed backwards far too often.

[the scarecrow]

we gave up a chance to get a better running back, a TE, a QB, a WR all in one pick for a guy who runs a 4.65 with fumbling problems???? Am I missing something???

[Jimmy Jam]

Chunk yardage guy. As opposed to DeMarco or Taiwan - both breakaway, big play guys. I don't hate it but I do hate that they traded to move up to get him when other backs would have been there at 79 - heck maybe even Thomas would've been there. What did this cost them?

[FB]

I hope Ireland drops dead tonight before he has a chance to keep f'ing it up.

[cocoajoe]

Fumbled 11 times

[Big Slap Shot Bob]

Thomas lined up at receiver at times last year - he's very athletic for a 230 RB. Good versatility and a power runner. He's your 1-2 down back and I'm sure Miami will either draft or sign a speedy change of pace guy for 3rd down. Good pick.

[tony in Miami]

No way Jose ....good bye Ronnie Brown

[John Matrix]

they can't win with you guys. so much negativity! how abut getting behind the team.

you moan when they dont trade, and when they do you all moan again!

What did you want, Mallett? go support another team if you hate this FO so much!

[Don]

Terrible pick slow runner fumbles. The whole front office should be fired!!!! Could of got this stiff or someone better in later rounds. Gave up whole draft for this POS!!! Good night!!! I am done!!!

[Darryl Dunphy]

Seriosuly..before the great feakout. There must be a plan to aquire more picks. If not by all means go crazy...

[Dfan1321]

Seriously Ireland.....Come on man. We've got enough skilled players that run a 4.6...Ughhhhhh

[james]

man do they work these trades out on madden and think they look good they could have waited 16 more picks i would have guessed

[the scarecrow]

this morons say we needed speed coming into draft, speed speed speed, and we use our only picks on the first two days on the draft on a guard and an slow ass RB????

[Pouncey]

Yeah

Rah rah

who

4. what

Ah ha ha ha

he run over people after he fumble ball

[djstarface]

I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing Ronnie or Ricky back after Ireland traded up to pick Daniel Thomas. Great move. I will stop referring to you as Jeff 'Fire'land from now on.

[NFLBS]

I told you it would be Thomas (Tom) Thomas was a QB before switching to RB he will be the new trigger man to the wildcat. Please do not tell me Miami will not run it Clevelnd ran it last year.

[SullysPhins]

Let's hear it Mando. What do you think. We can't draft to save our lives.

[capamando]

I hope that they know more than anyone of us! Will they trade again for Mallet? I have a feeling that they are going after a veteran fa qb.

[Marc]

"WE NEED TO DRAFT SPEED"

What a joke! You telling me this guy would have been gone?

[uganda]

I like it! And isn't it obvious by now what the ENTIRE league thinks about Ryan Mallett's worth? You guys that thought he was a first round talent, do yourselves a favor and don’t apply for a GM job!

[WhosHouse]

what did we give to trade up? When do we draft again?

[Eric]

John Matrix you're an idiot.

[Darryl Dunphy]

Hey Thomas is just as fast as Lex Hilliard.... Just sayin.

[Flipper13]

If that 4.63 time is accurate we should change our name from dolphins to the turtles!

[Greg]

Funny...I remember when we drafted a big ole slow RB named Larry....hmmm Csonka and everybody said the same crap. He was slow one cut...blah blah blah...now Im not saying Thomas is Csonka but he is in the same mold a big ole RB that will not go down on first contact and will move a pile. His hands are decent out of the back field. this is a bold move by a boring regime.

[Armando Salguero]

Dolphins gave up three picks for Daniel Thomas. They gave up their third, fifth and a seventh rounder.

The Dolphins scheduled at 79th moved to 62nd -- 17 spots -- for those three picks

[Pouncey]

Runs too upright, will be prone to injury... Does not have great long speed, is more of a bruiser... Has more upper body strength than lower body, his base appears a bit weak and most of his power comes from up top rather than driving with his legs... Below average receiver out of the backfield, doesn't have great hands and struggles running crisp routes... Would like to see him wrap the ball up better when fighting through trash, too often he leaves the ball visible to defenders... Will be a 24 year old rookie... Lacks explosion, is more of a slow twitch runner, may struggle shaking tacklers at the next level... His upright running style gets him knocked off balance too easily and it allows him to be pushed backwards far too often.

Rushing Receiving
Season Team ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD
545 2850 5.2 52 30 52 428 8.2 52 0
2009 Kansas St. 247 1265 5.1 40 11 25 257 10.3 52 0
2010 Kansas St. 298 1585 5.3 52 19 27 171 6.3 21 0

[NFLBS]

Marc

They will draft speed I am guessing Da-rel Scott or Derrick Locke both running backs are in the 4.3 range.

[0x80]

Miami out of nowhere shows intense interest in Mallett 2 weeks before the draft. Had ruse written all over it. Ireland should have done that with a player other GM's actually wanted.

Ireland is using the Dolphins as on the job training.

[LoRyder]

Next pick is scheduled in the 4th round, 14th pick (111 overall)

[SureShockMiami]

armando

what did we give up to trade hopefully not our third cuz probably was going to be there anyway

[JB]

That dude is a Joke compared to Hankerson. Ireland must be fired. He traded all our picks for a No Name we could have gotten in the 5th round. Even the analyst's were like WTF?

[Trev from Calgary]

Wow...what a Rick Speiman moment!?!
We trade up by essentially giving up the rest of our draft to pick a slow RB that fumbles...talk about a rudderless ship this organisation has become.

[GOPHINZ]

Ireland did better than Parcells...he's not Pat White....

[Johan]

Yeah, 3rd rounder, 5th, and 7th. Skins are stockpiling.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-team/dt-by-team-input:was/dt-by-round-input:2

[Ted Ginn's family]

HAHAHAHAHA!

Seriously, this team is a joke.

[Image]

***************Mando************************** - your honest opinion on the trade for the pick?

[Earl]

We drafted Pat White thinking he would be a good fit for the wildcrap, I guess Ireland doesn't learn.

[Trev from Calgary]

Guess Ireland thinks he'll be around to draft Andrew Luck next year...

[NFLBS]

Yep three picks for one player that they wanted. He better start or they just tyed thier noose.

[Ithaca Phin Fan]

For a 3rd 5th, and 7th really isn't that bad a deal.

I'm a little uneasy about the pick though and his fumble problem. Would have much preferred Mikels Leshoure, who fumbled a total of 2 or 3 times in his college career.

The consequences of not having a 2nd round pick are brutal.

I'd be surprised if Taiwan Jones or DJ Williams are still there in the 4th round.

[oscar canosa]

Broder, I don't know, but I'm not getting the drift of this "draft". I'm afraid, I'm afraid.

[little omondo]

big mondo is too busy looking for omar kelly

[Pouncey]

yeah sure greg

thomas is csonka and pouncey is stephenson

spin this shyt you losers

speed speed speed huh 4. what.

Ah Ha ha ha

[CRYBABIES]

WORST FANS EVER!!! CRY ME A FKUCKING RIVER!!!!

[austin]

i think demarco murray might be there in the 4th. he's a bit frail, but a great playmaker

[Darryl Dunphy]

Armando who did you pick in round 3? You are 2 for 2 so far. Perhaps there is another job for you in the future...lol

[dln265]

Didn't Emmitt Smith run a 4.63? Ronnie was fumble prone his first year. That disappeared quickly. I think Ricky fumbled about 11 times last year didn't he?

[Ithaca Phin Fan]

Thing that kills me is that they have fewer picks than they started with, and they still haven't added any speed to the roster.

Still no speedy WR, no speedy KR, and no speedy RB to boot (after picking a RB!)

When are they going to draft explosiveness?

[BoulderPhinFan]

playes a lot like ronnie check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBld17O-d8E

[NFLBS]

JB

He was not a no name Maylock had him as the third best RB in the draft. Almost everybody had him going in the 2nd round. Go check the grades on any NFL site.

[capamando]

Where is Mando? Is this not your blog?

[little omondo]

im not a baby - thats what big mondo says

[Earl]

Let the BOOOOS rain down in 2011

[austin]

i agree crybabies, this is pathetic.

[Marc]

Ronnie NEVER fumbled...That and he catches well

[CRYBABIES]

YEAH LETS GET ANOTHER TED GINN JR SO YOU ALL CAN CRY ABOUT THAT TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bigalfy]

Huge investment to move up 17 spots...now I dont know enough about this guy....but to give up 3 picks to move up ONLY 17 spots...thats very very expensive....Hes needs to be a wrecking machine for that....as i say I dont know him...but Ireland must think he is a ROCKET.....Massive investment if it fails....im actually shocked

[ashevillephinfan]

CRYBABIES, suck on it IDIOT