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There are no prototypes at RB, plus more from experts

Running backs have been a big topic of discussion on the Miami Herald site lately and that continues today.

My column in today's newspaper looks, in part, at Mark Ingram Jr. and how the Dolphins should not discount him based on what the naked eye suggests are his drawbacks.

I've been lukewarm on Ingram until now because, frankly, he doesn't look impressive to me. He's not big. He's not fast. He's just, just, productive.

Then I got three sources on the phone. I reached out to personnel men -- one of whom is still in the NFL, all of whom own Super Bowl rings -- and they told me not to caught up in searching for a prototype running back.

There are none.

Running backs, unlike all the other positions, do not need to come in one particular shape or size to play well. Even the Dolphins, a team whose draft principles is picking for prototype size, understand that doesn't necessarily apply to running back.

At least I hope they do. One of the people I spoke with has talked with Jeff Ireland and he's certain Ireland understands running backs are the exception in the hunt for prototypical size.

Just look at some that succeeded. Chris Johnson, arguably the most dangerous runner in the NFL the past two years, is tall and lanky. He also happens to be fast as a spy plane. Marion Barber is compact and stocky and not very fast. Darren McFadden is big and loose in the hips and fast. Curtis Martin weighed 207 pounds. John Riggins weighed 237 pounds. Barry Sanders was 5-9 and he looked nothing like 5-9 Emmitt Smith.

They were or are all very good to great. There was not one prototype among them.

I tell you more about Ingram in the column. I also share with you the opinions of the experts on other players available in the draft. Hint: They aren't sold on picking offense if the best playmaker on the board is a defender.

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greg z.. take a look at the FA backs, most are not impressive, or they are too often injured or too expensive or both. Thats why they are FA's. Their teams didn't want them enough so why should we? Next take a look at the later round backs, some are speedsters but not every down backs, the ones big enough to be every down backs and at least half decent blockers are just not that impressive. The top three backs that can really be every down backs and anchor the running game will be gone by round two most likely. Our current RB situation has not ever been worse in the history of the franchise with only one 6th rounder that we already waived once.

If we can get a trade down, it really puts us in a position to still get one of the other top backs. With no trade down, we will clearly have the worst running attack in our division if we don't pick an RB at 15. That would mean we have the worst running attack, worst passing attack, worst special teams and worst HC in the division, and we are supposed to win games like that? On the bright side, it will shuffle in the new regime that much sooner.

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The process of drafting a good player is very difficult as it involves the evaluation of such players, the needs your team has, and other considerations such as money. The only people that can do that, and it's their responsability, are the owner and the FO.

Great read. I especially love how you printed opposing teams pot shots at the Dolphins. "Pathetic", "Corners can't catch a cold" etc. Who said this exactly? Sources from other teams? Nice. And we're to believe every opinion these people have because they're the best in the business? WHO ARE THEY? This could all be made up for all we know.

DD,

Excellent comments on Henne.

If I'm a DC and you're a relatively young inexperienced QB, I'm doubling your best WR, stacking the box and blitzing early and often.

Until you can overcome and get over that proverbial hump, I'm challenging you to a game of feast or famine.

We do need to solidify the line and get Henne some more/better weapons. But UNTIL the lights come on and he learns to, or proves he can beat one of the oldest defensive strategies around, Sundays in Miami are going to be ugly.

Having said all that and being as down on Henne as I am, I'm giving the kid one more reprieve. Marino spoke in the press and said he wouldn't give up on Henne just yet. He said he believes he's a starting calibre QB and he just had an off year.

Seeing how Marino knows ALMOST as much as I do about QB's(duh-lol), if he said it, I'll go with it.

AT LEAST FOR NOW!

Odin, seeing how cba will not be resolved anytime soon and the starter in 2011 would have to be Henne or an FA, would you spend a high pick on a QB this year? Just doesn't make sense to me, I say we bite the bullet this year, use the picks on players that can help us in 2011, and then make a serious play for a top QB next year.

Odin..Thanks for the shout.

0x80...I agree with you@ 3:42. None of the quarterbacks in this draft are ready to unseat Henne as the starter. Eventually, maybe. This doesn't make our team any better this year. People that are yearning for that franchise guy. I understand. Anyone drafted is a pick for the future. So many reasons that this is a bad year for that strategy.

Above all, I don't think there is a franchise quarterback that will be available to us. 2 bad buisness to marry yourself to a project, when that project manager may be fired. 3 It is too much fun to bash Henne. Any success by an alien qb would take the fun away(most important of all points).

I say go the route of FA(once it is available) let Henne win the job against one of these retreads. It will give him some confidence moving forward. If he can't win the job, then most likely we are set up pretty well to be in line for a much better qb prospect in 2012

Odin, how'd your weekend go, sorry I missed it....I couldn't break away to drive up, my thoughts were with you though!

Slow day...State of the Phins on NFL Network tonight. This is my thought. If you are a believer that the Phins are a few players, and better quarterback play from being a playoff contender. That would be a realistic opinion.
But if you are of the belief that the Phins FO is incompatant. The coach a joke, and the whole operation a laughing stock that needs blown up. That too would be a realistic voice.

What is this team? Nobody quite knows. Just like you can justify any of the possible draft picks. You can justify fans opinions about the state of the team. I am on the side of a team that is a few pieces away from being a contender for the playoffs. As poorly as we played at times. The team was in, or had a chance to win every game except the 2 Patriot games(you can throw in Baltimore if you want). If we can learn to minimize our mistakes(on both sides of the ball) the turnaround shouldn't be soch a suprise..

dd,


WE KNOW YOU AS A SWEET GUY,WHY ARE YOU SO HARSH ON OUR TEAM AS DYING CREEP ?

DD @ 5:13,

I'm of a different opinion there. It's all too easy to say each year well 3 or 4 of our losses coulda, shoulda, woulda been wins. The playoff team makes the plays when they count, while the non-playoff teams don't, and perpetually think they are a few players from 'being there'. The Pats and Jets are flat out better than us, their records say so, even if we did split with the Jets last year, getting to the afc title game two years in a row in this division is no fluke. They both have more weapons and better coaching than we do. Buffalo too will likely have a better QB than us come draft day and Gailey is a far more competent coach than Sparano, so considering the division, considering the Pats are loaded with picks, I just don't see us a few pieces away.

By the time you get those extra pieces in place and performing, you then have to hope some of the other pieces aren't deteriorating or floating away in FA. It's a cat and mouse game that few can master, and TS doesn't appear to be one of them. As much as we need that 'franchise QB', we first need a HC that can express a complete thought in English more coherently than the average 5 year old.

OX80,

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The Dolphins should definitely not get caught up in the search for the prototypical running back. Runningback's as mentioned come in all shapes and sizes and all can be effective. Personally I do not like drafting running backs in the first round unless they are a future Pro Bowler because of their short life span in the NFL and would prefer the Dolphins hold off on Ingram and look for value picks that could be equally effective to go along with Ricky Williams. The bottom line is the Dolphins need a new starting runningback this off season because Ronnie Brown is too big of a risk to count on and Williams cannot carry the bulk of the load.

I do not disagree with this writing..

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