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The Dolphins' mock: Rounds 1 through 3

This Dolphins draft is as much about quantity as quality only in that the team has to find a way to stave off the Patriots with their legion of five picks in the first three round and the Bills, which have only three picks the first three rounds but are taking their turns at the top of those rounds.

The Dolphins have a first round pick (15th overall) and are not scheduled to pick again until the third round with the 79th overall selection. The Pats will have picked five times by then.

I gave this long consideration as I set out to do my Dolphins mock for the first three rounds.

Having thought about it, I decided the Dolphins must move heaven and Earth to get back that one of two second round picks they used in the trade for, ahem, Brandon Marshall. And that's why my mock includes a trade back for Miami.

I believe the Dolphins will have the opportunity to trade back and for my purposes today I am saying the trade back partner is New Orleans. The Saints, you see, are a team on the cusp of playing for another title. They are thisclose to getting back to Super Bowl caliber. And so they need quality, not quantity. They want to get higher in the draft to pick a more dynamic player, and likely a defender in this defender-rich draft.

So for our purposes I'm making a trade for Miami.

(Full disclosure: This is just done in fun and as speculation. This is not based on anything sources are saying has been discussed or will happen. Just want to let everyone know that because the Internet can be a freaky place.)

I envision the trade as follows: The Dolphins trade their first round pick (No. 15 overall) and their third round pick (No. 79 overall) to New Orleans. The Dolphins get the Saints' first round pick (No. 24 overall), their second-round pick (No. 56 overall) and one of their third round picks (No. 88 overall).

What does this accomplish. It gets the Saints nine spots higher in the first round ostensibly to pick a better player. It moves the Dolphins down to a place in the draft I believe the value for what they're looking for -- running back, offensive line, wide receiver -- is greater.

Yes, the Saints lose their second rounder. But they have two third-rounders anyway. Yes, the Dolphins have to drop back in their third round. That's the price of dropping in on the previously closed-to-them second round.

And so here we are, at No. 24 overall in the first round.

With the 24th overall selection in the 2011 NFL draft, the Miami Dolphins select: Mike Pouncey (Center) of the University of Florida. I hate the pick. And I love the pick. I hate it because Pouncey will never score touchdowns. But I love it because it is a value selection at No. 24 -- five spots lower than where his brother Markice went to Pittsburgh. I also love it because the Dolphins need a center to solidify their offensive line. The position has been unsettled since 2008. Joe Berger is nice but his best asset to the team is as a backup. Pouncey could be the starter for the next decade.

With the 56th overall selection in the 2011 NFL draft, the Miami Dolphins select: Daniel Thomas (Running back) Kansas State. Mark Ingram will be gone by this spot. So will Mikel Leshoure, whom I would think the Dolphins will consider in the first round but pass on because he's not a value at No. 15 nor No. 24 for that matter. So it's the next best guy on the board at Miami's greatest position of need. Ryan Williams is also a candidate here, but I just think Thomas is bigger, quicker and fumbles less. Don't hate.

With the 88th overall selection in the 2011 NFL draft, the Miami Dolphins select: Traiwan Jones (Running back) Eastern Washington. I'm more excited about this running back than the previous one, but this one is too risky to take in the second round. Jones is a bullet. He ran a 4.30 on the Miami scouts' stopwatches at his Pro Day two weeks ago. He is a home run waiting to happen and the Dolphins need some of those on offense and special teams. By the way, the Dolphins have doubled down on draft picks before, picking two cornerbacks in the 2009 draft. I hope Arkansas tight end D.J. Williams will be here when Miami picks but he probably won't be. I love that kid. He reminds me of Keith Jackson.

I know, I know, you're going to wonder why I didn't address the QB spot. Well, this doesn't mean I'm on board the Chad Henne bandwagon. If you read my columns, this blog and listen to my radio show, you know that already. But I wait to address it in free agency. I go get a veteran.

OK, that's a lot to chew on. And there is much work for you to do. It is your turn to give me your Dolphins mock for rounds 1 through 3. If you believe the Dolphins will trade, you have to use that scenario in your draft as I did.

We will do rounds 4-7 next week.

Go!

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Your correct and I am hopefull that after 2011 the changes come...

But also I believe that being the 2nd wealthiest NFL team owner means the following.

After back to back losing seasons the 2nd wealthiest owner REWARDS Ireland with a 2 year contract extension.

After back to back losing seasons the 2nd wealthiest owner REWARDS Soprano with a 2 year contract extension including hiring Sopranos son.

The 2nd wealthiest owner goes after harbaugh and gets creamed faced for not understanding the basic principals of an owners responsibility as a business.

The 2nd wealthiest owner PASSED on hiring a Proven Winner Bill COwher and again, REWARDS A losing Coach Soprano.

I can go on and on just as you and most fans can..

What i mean is that it does NOT matter how wealthy the Dolphin owner is if he does not make sound good business decisions.

Money does have it's privileges but also WE FANS can walk with our feet and put a hurtin on the owners bottom line.

Yes, we cant get rid of Ross but I'm sure Ross will get rid of himself as Dolphin owner and he has nobody to blame except himself for REWARDING Soprano and Ireland.

As soon as the Dolphins season was over I mentioned that they would trade back with one of three teams, SD, New Orleans or Denver.
Based on the draft value board here's what their most likely trade options are.
1) 15th overall to San Diego for 18 & 61.
2) 15th overall to New Orleans for 24 & 56
3) 15th overall to Denver for 36 & 46.

I think they'll wait to see if Robert Quinn or DaQuan Bowers falls to 15 (unlikely) and if not, they'll do the deal with New Orleans.

24) Phil Taylor DT
56) Greg Little WR or Ryan Williams RB
79) Casey Matthews ILB
111) Ricky Stanzi QB or Mason Foster ILB
146) Derrick Locke RB or DeMarco Murray RB
179) Rob Housler TE
217) Jake Kirkpatrick C
218)Jah Reid OT
235)Greg McElroy QB

UDFA - Cameron Kenney WR/KR, Brandon Saine RB

When the lockout ends I think they'll sign at least one starter for the OL and DeAngelo Williams. Then assuming the Bungles take Gabbert or Newton at #4, with any luck they can convince the Bengals to take Henne and a conditional pick in 2012 for Carson Palmer. Cincinnati taking a QB indicates they're as ready to move on as CP is. Fingers crossed.

alex, there's this thing called the salary cap. It's all about how you spend the money. Remember the $156,000,000 O-line 2years ago? How did that work out?

But getting back to Ross, he's got a lot to learn about being an owner. The biggest thing I see is, if you don't know, either do your homework or hire somebody that does know.

Good one, T. Martin. My only fear is Belichick taking M. Ingram.

I really can't complain about an owner who really wants to win and is willing to shell out alot of his dough to do it. I wish they would get the damn CBA done so we can spend some of it.

To Craig M. you make some good points but talking about Marino is making me sick. Oh he was too slow to hand the ball off what have you been a fan since the late 90's.He just threw the ball downfield, your a idiot- maybe he did to duper and clayton but sorry they did not play in miami the majority of Dan's career.Nobody thinks we need a Marino type.You can place the blame on Shula's drafts through Marino's years they were awful and the only reason Marino was drafted is because of the mistakes of several teams.He should of played for the Vikings instead of retiring then he would of had a ring that so dame important to everyone who judges him.He was the reason our seasons finished in January not October, the reason fans packed the our stadium unlike now visiting teams fans are just as loud. I totally agree with your opinion on Mallett etc. But don't blast our history if you are a dolphin fan, if your not then say what you want. You all with these draft predictions and trading down which is all but the obvious thing Ireland wants. I find it funny how most of you not all have gotten your insight from other sites, give it a rest and just pray the picks pan out and whether you like it or not we still will not know in a week, it will be hopefully 5 months.

Unless the labor situation is settled VERY soon (and there's no indication whatsoever it will be) it will become more likely by the day that players drafted this year will have very minimal impact.

Wew need to remember that they will not be allowed to have ANY contact whatsoever with the team. That means no practices, no meetings with coaches, not even a playbook.

It's becoming evident this is probably a draft for 2012 and beyond.

I disagree. while it may be true the fins need quantity more than quality, taking an average running back, or an average anything, is not sensible. What team improves with average running backs?? And your no. 24 selection of a center is based on making yourself drop back 9 spots, and THEN deciding who is best. That's a game you like to play with yourself, and your readers -- to create responses and increase hits -- but i would be underwhelmed if that was what the dolfan's masterminds were contemplating: how can we make an average team, more average? Oh, let's go for an average player. Brilliant!

the only one that has ryan leaf written all over him is the loser named chad henne! chad henne is a joke! period.

Going with your trade down, here's my mock Dolphin draft:

Round 1) Ryan Mallett QB
Round 2) DJ Williams TE
Round 3) Taiwan Jones RB

It's not only me that is giving lessons on Internet properties. It isn't me Armando, I swear!

DD, I like your mock @1:21!! Following Mando's lead I used the trade down scenario as well but even though i'm not a glass half empty guy i think its doubtful we'll get a trade down partner.

That being said Pouncey or Ingram will probably be the choice at 15. They may not be exciting picks but both can play.

Guys...remember this, Ross wants a dynamic offense that fills the seats. He made this point very clear back in early Jan when the whole Harbaugh coaching fiasco took place.
Our offense was the second worst in the NFL.
Ross gave Ireland/Sparano one final chance to "fix it"....which means DRAFT A PLAYMAKER on offense.
Pouncey is NOT a playmaker.
Mallett is NOT a playmaker.
Ingram IS a playmaker and can score points.
So I still say pick Ingram @ 15 and give him the damn ball!

Trade with New Orleans My preferred picks
1. Ryan Mallet QB
2. Daniel Thomas RB
3. Steve Wisenewski C
4. DJ Williams TE
5. Casey Matthews ILB
6. Deunta Williams FS
7. Scott Lutros OLB
7. Lee Smith TE
7. Damien Berry RB
Heavy in offense this year and talent.

Mallett is not a playmaker in himself but he feeds the playmakers.

Here's my mock with a tradedown in the first:

1 Andy Dalton QB......Ireland surprises just about everyone by trading back in the first and grabbing the guy he actually wants before any of the QB needy teams in the second.

2 Ryan Williams RB

3 Steve Wisenewski C
4 Virgil Green TE
5 Derrick Locke RB
6 Casey Matthews ILB
7 Cheta Ozougwu, OLB
7 Ricardo Lockette WR
7 Byron Maxwell, CB

Maybe my comment on predicting the draft was out of line that is what this is about I just hate when someone, especially on a dolphin site downgrades the greatest player this franchise has had.
So my opinion on the draft is this,Deangelo Williams will be a Dolphin fact, Carson Palmer probably not he wants to play for a team on the west coast. If its possible I would trade out of the first round, say for laughs with cincy say they take a.j.green in 1st rd and want a quaterback bad enough to offer there 2,3,4, and a 2nd next year just a crazy thought

wait a second armando... i thought you said miami would do everything possible to replace chad henne and yet you dont have them taking a QB in the first 3 rounds? Are you that confident that they can land a trade for Palmer or someone of that nature?

I'd like to see dolphins trade down

1. Good OT like Camari/ Solder or Houston/aldon smith/ quin if he drops

2.depending on the first pick either Wilsen from illinois or Gannon from TCU for massive earth moving gaurd.

3. Taiwon Jones/ Vareen

4. Dj Willaims/ Greg little

5. Greg Little/ Shepherd ILB from LSU

6. wr Lockette

7.van dyke from UM (cant teach 4.2 speed)

7. Herzlich ILB Gotta love his fight from bone cancer

7.marion fannon

I cannot recall a time in the past twenty-five years when I have been less interested in the Dolphins' draft.

I have ZERO belief that Ireland & Sparano have any sort of a clue as to what to do.

Plus, we're stuck w/ Henne for at least one more year. Anyone looking forward to his next two-minute drill?

THE DOLPHINS WILL TRADE DOWN WITH SAINTS
THEN WILL TRADE NEXT YEARS 1ST AND THIS YRS 5TH FOR A HIGH SECOND RIOUNDER THIS YR
1.MIKE POUNCY/NATE SOLDER
2A.CHRISTIAN PONDER
2B. DANIEL THOMAS
3.TAIWAN JONES/DJ WILLIAMS
4.EDMUND GATES/NOEL DEVINE

PARCELLS TOLD ME SO , HE STILL RUNNING THINGS ACCORDING TO OUR LAST CONVERSATION .

Next year's first, that's a stiff one. But well, Go Dolphins!

My mock does not include moving down. As it stands today, we have no trade partner, and I don't believe we'll get one either. Unless someome (like NE) wants to bury the rest of the AFC for the next half decade for this Heisman Trophy winner, and my first pick:

Rd 1 @ 15 Mark Ingram RB Alabama

Rd 3 @ 79 Marcus Gilbert (R/L)OT Florida

[To put my first three picks on Armando's board, I am taking the liberty of tossing in my forth round here]

Rd 4 @ 111 Niles Paul WR Nebraska

And I do believe the Pats will call and try to get our 15th and take Ingram. If I knew they were going to take anyone other than this back, I'd trade down and bleed them for all I could.

But what if they choose Ingram in the 15th, even if they gave us their 1st (a mere two spots later), and a second? They'd have to throw in one more mid-rounder in order to off-set the disadvantage we'd find ourselves in for the next half decade.

1. Ryan Mallet-- Most ready to play rightaway

3. Virgil Green/Jordan/Williams-- Availability?

4. Stanzi qb or wr Stephen Burton W.Texas A&M--Availability

5. Derek Newton OT-- Carey's potential replacement

6. Mario Fannin rb

7a. Noel Devine-- all purpose guy
7b. Herzlich-- if available.

I just dont think rb is major draft priority. There still option to resign Brown or go free agency route for great value at rb.

Ive added size and speed with Fannin. Plus an all purpose guy in Noel Devine. He can get 3-4 plays a game at rb on specialty plays designed just for him.

Ha, GulfDolphin.

just be glad fellas we arent playing this year. so we get 2 drafts to get better before we play a game again

I tell you, me and a few others will be sweatin bullets if Ireland trades down to 17 or 24.

From Wikipedia:

"Marino's selection status in the 1983 NFL Draft plummeted after a subpar senior season at Pitt, rumors of drug use[5] and rumors that knee injuries (resulting in four knee surgeries) were hampering his mobility."

Huge Mobility Concerns? Wonder who that reminds me of. Can anyone help?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino#College_career

A lot of people here never would have picked Marino when they saw he had 23 interceptions vs 17 tds his senior season.

I'll bet most here didnt know that about Marino's senior season did you?

Miami @ 24 - Mark Ingram,Pouncey will not last until 24

Miami rd 2 - Torrey Smith or Jerrel Jernigan

Miami rd 3 - D.J. Williams

i hope espn is right and the fins dump garbage marshall after draft. guy is complete garbage

Did anyone here know 13 out of Marino's 17 Dolphin season he completed less than 60% of his pass attempts?

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=MARINDAN01

dying that isnt a big deal when u throw the ball all over the field and every team knows u will every play since he always had an awful running game

Did anyone know John Elway is the most sacked nfl qb of all time. Yup, he holds the nfl record being sacked 516 times.

Still worked out pretty well for the Broncos. Plus know one would have guessed the very mobile Elway is most sacked qb in nfl history. LOL.........

http://www.funtrivia.com/en/Sports/John-Elway-15728.html

dying everyone knows elway is. and why wouldnt u believe it, he always ran around back there causing alot of sacks

trade down to the 24th pk take ryan mallet
2nd pk mike pouncey
3rd pk taiwan jones
pick up another 3rd rnd pk and take ryan williams or dj williams

ol in rest of draft

russel pouncey wont be there then. and how are u gonna pick up another 3rd rd pick

So DB, let's get Mallet to see if he can beat Elway's record for most sacks? We already have one of those tackling dummies, Henne! LOL! Happy Easter to all who respect the holiday BTW!

Checking Niles Paul, darned fast and with good size, doesnt shy away from contact. Hmm..

redsky,

If Henne didnt make me so nervous I wouldnt be thinking qb at all. Im nearly conclussively convinced Henne is not the future of Dolphins football.

Cant say with 100% certainty who it is. But with 100% certainty Im convinced it isnt Henne. So thats why Im willing to go with one of the most talented downfield passers to ever come out of college football.

Yes, its risky. If Mallet keeps his nose clean and learns to slide well in the pocket. This kid can be special in the nfl, Dolphin or not.

If I were Mallet I would watch tons of Peyton Manning/Tom Brady tapes. Both are 6'7, and just try and learn to mimick their pocket mobility skills.

Neither are mobile but do great job of "evading" the pass rush. If I were qb coach Mallet would be watching those tapes for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and bedtime snack.

dying henne is done, wont start another game for us ever

Henne has career backup written all over him. He's far too inconsistent to ever become an upper echelon starting qb in the nfl.

There are so many misinformed and uninformed People here its unbelievable. Who said P. Manning and Brady are 6'7"?

Sorry Armando. I said it before, Internet will be taken over by the Educated; the rest will fall by the wayside.

I have ZERO belief that Ireland & Sparano have any sort of a clue as to what to do.

Plus, we're stuck w/ Henne for at least one more year. Anyone looking forward to his next two-minute drill?

Posted by:The Seer | April 24, 2011

Seer, Agree 100% with you..., Welcome to to G.O.D AKA Gang of defeat or as Lil Aloco would say "GANG OF DEFEET".....

Even though very good qb's can come from drafts every year. Extremely gifted "downfield" passers like Mallet are a lot more rare.

These calibre of "highly talented" downfield passers may come out once every 5 years or so. Thats why I close my eyes to his risks. They arent anything that cant be changed or altered.

oscar,

You're right. Brady 6'4, Manning 6'5.

Still that's what makes this blog a terrible place. You know "I" made the statement, so why not just address me?

Sometimes people here take "drive bys" at others then cry foul when feeling attacked by them. When will we aLL JUST "GROW UP"!

At Madison Square Garden, the Celtics just finished sweeping the building! LOL...........

We are all considered adult "grown up" men. Yet at times "WE ALL" can be a bunch of 2yr old malcontented crybabies. That includes me. LOL...............

nobody 6'7 has ever been good in the nfl

Good thing the Nfl Draft is Thursday. Then instead of attacking eachother, we can all focus our attention on attacking Ireland's and his draft picks! LOL................

Mr. Bottoms...Ed "to tall jones" 6'9

dusty,

There hasnt been a talented 6'7 qb to come into the league. Dont know where everyones getting that sta from. Mallet's being compared to Leaf but Leaf was only listed at 6'5 like Manning.

kris he wasnt a qb

I know Dusty.....just poking my nose in.....

I think Big Ben is close to 6'7

You are not the only ignorant one in this Blog, DB. We are trying to Teach here, you know.

Roslithberger only 6'5. There hasnt been an extremely talented 6'7 qb that came into the league. He cracking brand new ground. LOL.........

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