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The definitive look at the remaining QB possibilities

The Dolphins will address their need to add a quarterback to the roster once the league year begins and free agency and trades are allowed. That isn't speculation.

The Dolphins will do this because they could not find a quarterback in the draft they were willing to take when they were on the clock.

“Well I think we’ll have to look in free agency if we’re going to do that," general manager Jeff Ireland said. "Certainly we’ll look at all the quarterbacks in depth and (you know) the board didn’t fall right for us to pick up a quarterback. I didn’t feel like we were desperate for one and so we didn’t adjust our board to try to go after one. We stuck with our board and let it fall as it did.”

In a perfect world, the Dolphins would be able to find a player that could be a franchise caliber quarterback. there is really only one of those in the group that is likely to be available. His name is Carson Palmer. If Palmer doesn't become available, and the chances are good he will not, the Dolphins have to get creative and lower their expectations all at once.

What follows is an extensive look at the quarterbacks who are likely to be available and what their situation looks like. I present to you the signal-callers in order of how likely each player would be the answer for the quarterback-hungry Dolphins.

Carson Palmer: I told you in mid March that Dolphins sources were telling me he would be their No. 1 option if he becomes available and at the right time. The Cincinnati Bengals own his rights. He hates the idea of going back to Cincy to a degree that he's promised to retire if he's not traded. The Bengals have said they will not trade him, but they also have obviously moved on -- picking Andy Dalton in the second round of last week's draft. So perhaps the Bengals stick to their word. And perhaps they try to get something for Palmer. It could be nothing. It could be everything! If the Bengals put Palmer on the market, I report to you the Dolphins will be in line to get him. But even if that happens, other teams might also be in line, including Seattle and Arizona. Palmer has stated he'd like to play on the west coast. Seattle coach Pete Carroll coached him at USC. One small bit of trivia: Palmer's agent was also Dan Marino's agent back in the day. Don't know what that means, or if its too much information but I want to share as much with you as possible.

Marc Bulger: He will be starting his 11th NFL season in 2011. He was once considered among the most accurate and most-gifted quarterbacks in the NFL. That was circa 2004-2006. That was also when he was playing behind a solid offensive line and with some talent around him. But the Rams declined as the talent around Bulger aged and disappeared. So he declined. He got beat up and seemed beat down when I saw him play against Miami in 2008. He was bailing out of the pocket. He was rushing his throws. He had happy feet. Bulger was injured in 2009 and then signed a one-year free agent contract with the Ravens in 2010. He did not throw a pass in a game. Some people believe that year off served as a rehab of sorts for Bulger -- a time to heal and find himself again. He will be on the market. And there will be takers because Arizona, for one, might see him as a reclamation project similar to the one they undertook with Kurt Warner -- which worked out pretty well. I believe if the Dolphins cannot get Palmer, Bulger will be their second target. Not anything anyone has whispered to me. Speculation. But it is logical. The Dolphins can sign Bulger for a year or two and offer him a chance to win a starting job. If he beats out Henne, so be it. If he doesn't, he sits. Arizona might be able to offer him the starting job outright. We'll see.

Kyle Orton: He is limited. He is also under contract in Denver. This would have to involve a trade. That would mean the Broncos would have to be willing to get rid of a security blanket. It would signal that club president John Elway is handing the keys to the franchise to Tim Tebow. I don't know that Denver would be ready to do that in the offseason. Elway might want to wait until a training camp competition decides matters. If Elway is convinced Tebow is going to be his quarterback, he might want to get rid of Orton to avoid a QB controversy and also to save Orton's salary and and get compensation for Orton in return. That's not really a situation the Dolphins or any other outside team can really drive. 

Matt Flynn: He is never, ever, ever going to play in Green Bay unless something happens to Aaron Rodgers. So the Packers might be willing to part with this youngster (and winner) for the right draft pick compensation. He played when Rodgers was injured last season. He had a nice performance (3 TD, 1 INT) versus the Patriots in a 31-27 loss. It was his only start of the season. The case for Flynn is simple: He played collegiately in the Southeastern Conference and helped LSU win the national title. He's been very well coached in Green Bay. He's only 25 years old which suggests he could be part of the future. But ... He's unproven and moreso than Henne. He has played in the West Coast offense and the Dolphins don't run that. If the Dolphins are looking at the QB spot with a view of the future, this might be a good move. If they want someone for right now, and aren't eager to give up even modest draft picks, this isn't the move.

Kerry Collins: If this was 2001 instead of 2011, Collins would make great sense. But Collins is 38 years old now and there is no knowing how much he has left in the tank. I'd say he's a good option as a veteran backup that can pick up a game or two in a crisis. But compete to win the job? that is seriously hoping against hope. So why is Collins on this list? He's still got a great arm. He's good in the locker room. He's a professional. He has no off-the-field issues. To me, he makes perfect sense back at Tennessee where he can tutor Jake Locker. I assume that will be his preference. But you never know. He's one of the few guys on this list that isn't exclusively a West Coast offense quarterback.

Matt Hasselbeck: He was amazing in the postseason, throwing seven TDs and and only one INT. I don't know if he was finally healthy. I don't know if he was playing for a new contract. I don't know if the 35-year-old took a drink from the Fountain of Youth. Whatever, Hasselbeck positioned himself into being valuable to someone in free agency. Don't get too excited. Before he played a Pro Bowl player in the playoffs, Hasselbeck was bad in the regular season -- throwing 12 TDs and 17 INTs. That's really no upgrade in stats over what Henne offered the Dolphins. Hasselbeck is and has always been a classic West Coast offense guy, which is not a great fit for Miami's offense. Can the old dog learn a new offense? Will he want to? And would he want to come to a mediocre team in Miami for what might be the end of his career?

Kevin Kolb: He lost the starting job to Michael Vick last season and could now be expendable. The Eagles are expected to entertain trade offers. There are rumors the San Francisco 49ers covet Kolb. There are other reports the Arizona Cardinals will be players in the derby for his services if and when the Eagles open the market for him. I see Arizona as his most likely landing spot. I don't see the Dolphins participating to any degree because the price for him will be higher than any other QB on the trade market -- higher than Palmer, if Cincy budges -- because of his age. But that high price comes with limited experience. He has played 19 games in four years. He has 11 career TDs and 14 career INTs. There are NFL people that see him as a sure thing. There are NFL people that see him as a question mark. The detractors also say Kolb is more suited for a West Coast offense. It's what he knows. It suits his skill set. The Dolphins do not use the West Coast offense.

Vince Young: The Titans are parting ways with their former first-round draft pick. That should give you pause. It would be the second Titans coaching staff that would be comfortable with the idea of getting rid of Young. That should give you pause. And, ultimately, the separation is not really a matter of performance on Young's part but rather because of his locker room and off-the-field and personal dealings with coaches and teammates. That, again, should really give pause. Finally, on the field, Vince Young has been a winner but not really spectacular. Young has played 54 games. He's thrown 42 touchdowns. And 42 interception. I don't see how this makes sense.

Donovan McNabb: What happened? Two years ago he was a really good player. But much like other Philadelphia quarterbacks that go to other teams, McNabb suddenly stunk, throwing more interceptions than touchdowns for the first time in his career. Should McNabb become available, the Redskins will probably try to get something in trade for him. I don't see his trade value to be very high. Maybe a fifth-round pick. The Dolphins and Redskins have a relationship in that they made a trade in the most recent draft. (Maybe TMI again on my part.) I must tell you McNabb was excellent in Andy Reid's west coast offense but he didn't seem to take a shine to Mike Shanahan's run-heavy version of the offense. He also didn't seem to particularly endear himself to Shanahan behind the scenes so that raises red flags as well. Don't see him as a fit.

Kellen Clemens: He's a free agent. He's been with the Jets since 2006 and was once considered the future starter until Mark Sanchez came along. He has a nice arm, a nice disposition, and a history with offensive coordinator Brian Daboll. No, he's not the answer to the quarterback question. He's a possibility as a backup. He would be a guy to remember if the Dolphins fail to find a veteran that can actually go toe-to-toe in a legitimate competition with Henne. Failing that ... Clemens is a possibility. Not possible, you say? Dolphins don't sign good guys when they cannot start in the NFL, you say? Two words: Josh McCown.

Brett Ratliff: You've never heard of the 6-4, 224-pounder from Utah. Neither had I until I started doing some homework. Ratliff played for Dolphins offensive coordinator Brian Daboll in New York. He was traded to the Browns when Daboll came on board in 2009. Somehow he ended up on the New England practice squad. I assume the Browns cut him. And then the Browns signed him off the Patriots practice squad last season. No, he didn't start. He hasn't ever thrown a pass in a game. But if you're looking for a name that Miami might be interested in as a third QB toward the end of training camp, this is the one. Ratliff signed a future's contract with the Titans so he belongs to them right now. (Hey, we're talking QBs here. Everyone's important.)

Yeah, that's about it at the moment. Maybe somebody loses their mind and becomes suddenly available. Otherwise, maybe Dan Marino is itching for a comeback.

 

 

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Getting cut off again!! Eff it!

Tell us, Redsky. Don't stand on ceremony.

CocoaJoe, all you mentioned are Scottish!

Guys if I were president

Got cut off again, I'm done, sorry!

If I were president, I would NOT have said anything! OBL would have simply disappeared along with everyone in that compound. Would create more fear that way and yield better intelligence through interrogation....no retribution....

Braveheart is a (VERY loosely historical) account of the Scottish war for independence in the 1300's.

Not at all sure where you got the Irish connection.

FINALLY!!!

I AM AMAZED THAT IRISH MEN TRYING TO STEEL BRAVEHEART AS THEIR OWN HERO .

The Irish don't have heroes, they have leprachans, irish whiskey, and cold freckled women.

Nobody should confuse Braveheart as a historically accurate documentation of events (it's not even close) but it's not about the Irish or Ireland at all.

Nothing against the Irish...I AM one...but just helping set the facts straight.

PETE,

YOU MAY ANSWER THE Q ......... HOW IRELAND WAS JUST FREED AFTER ALL COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD WERE FREE..... IS A LACK OF HERO OR THEY WERE BUSY DRINKING ?

Like any other country on Earth, Ireland has a history filled with both heroes AND cowards, events both inspiring AND loathesome.

To their credit, they preserved a culture and eventually gained independence despite being VERY ruthlessly supressed for centuries and kept in virtual serfdom by the British into the 20th Century.

To their discredit, the Iris were famously neutral in WW2 and famously (and sadly) offered shipping transport information to the Nazis as "retaliation" for their suffering under the British, despite Hitler's own atrocities.

Mixed bag of history, just like anyone else including us.

Redsky, although limebricks are attributed to the Irish, baudy poems go back to the Egyptians. Anglo-Saxons, primarly the Saxons won. Then the Norman invasion which eventhough they spoke Norman-French and brought their own customs reverted back to Saxon culture. The Vikings had their own infusuion of culture.

The Scots and Irish were a diff matter...Edward (Longshanks) was a true historical English king who did wage war against Wm Wallace (teue fact) and Wm De Bruce

Irish women don't swallow.

COCO,

WAS ROBIN HOOD AN IRISH MAN OR AN ENGLISH MAN ?

Aloco, Ireland was an extremely poor country without any real military means to free themselves from British domination and abuse. You must remember just how powerful and diplomatically influential Britain was in that era.

Nobody excpt the Irish was really protesting the situation, and certainly nobody else was coming to their aid.

PETE,

ARE YOU SAYING THERE'S MORE HEROES IN AFRICA WHERE THEY GOT FREED 100 YEARS AGO THAN IRELAND ?

ALoco, nobody really knows. There has been a lot of research...Robert Hoad and similar historical names. Back then, there were only a few that could write and then mostly Latin. So, it's all verbal which gets embellished and finally written as fact.

COOC,

MY FAVORITE MOVIE IS 1936 (( ROBIN HOOOD )) GREAT MOVIE .

Got off topic ALoco but yes, 'Robin Hood' or Robert Hoad was English

Another thing to consider when saying "well, WE threw out the British why couldn't the Irish" is this:

While there is no question about the bravery and sacrifice of Americans during our own revolution it cannot be neglected that the contributions of France, Britain's chief "superpower" rival of the era, were huge both militarily and especially finacially. In fact, the French government bankrupted itself funding the Continentl Army and sending their own troops and Naval forces to join the battle.

When American went it alone in the War of 1812, the results were quite different. There was no victory (despite the lasting perception that there was) but rather a negotiated truce where the United States was forced to give up any claims on Canada and accept a norther boundary that was far more on British terms than their own.

Ireland had no such ally in their own battle for independence. Only themselves and perseverance despite long odds.

I KNOW NORWAY WAS NEVER OCCUPIED , BUT THEIR CALLED HEROES WERE BUS RAPPING ,STEALING AND KILLING OLD MEN AND CHILDERNS ......


WERE BUSY

Norway was never occupied? That would come as news to the Norwegians who lived under Nazi occupation in the 1940s.

Yes, ALoco good movie. Pretty good for a laugh was Men In Tights

Dolphin chat anyone ?

The US owes its independence to the Irish.

Irish and American Irish soldiers (especially Scotch Irish) constituted between 1/4 and 1/3 of the American Continental Army. That included nearly 1,500 officers of Irish ancestry, among them 22 generals and more than a dozen sea captains.

We have football because of them.

I DEMAND TO KNOW WHY LORD PELICAN WAS NOT DRAFTED! IT IS A CONSPIRACY JUST LIKE THE DEATH OF TELLY SAVALAS! I DEMAND AN INVESTIGATION!

Pete, actually the Irish didn't mean much of a threat in the 13th century. It was the Scots who lived on the same island but just north. By all accounts, the Irish helped the Scots but still were seperated by the Irish Sea and no real threat to the crown.

Telly Savalas was a great Irish general. We owe our freedom to him.

Cocoa, understood. Just setting the 'Braveheart" facts straight, that's all. The movie is about the Scottish/English war in the 14th Century.

With a TON of historical errors despite it being decent as entertainment.

Me also Irish, But this is a Dolphin chat site ? Or is it green beer tonight ?

Cheers,

Vince Young is Black Irish.

I LEARNED A LOT TONIGHT ....ONE THING I LEARNED FROM PETE AND COCO ,THERE WERE NO HERO IN IRELAND.THE BRITISH BOUGHT THEIR SOULS WITH BEER .

It is indeed a Dolphins site.

I found the draft to be somewhat pedestrian but also extremely logical. Didn't think Mallett was a good risk (agreed with many others that he's nowhere close to being an NFL starter anytime soon due to the serious maturity questions). I like what all three of the top picks could potentially mean to the offense if they perform adequately.

Still need the QB upgrade (I'd want Palmer at the right price) but not at all sure we'll be seeing FA anytime soon.

Won't grade the draft. I don't think you can do that with ANY semblance of accuracy until 2-3 years down the road.

Oh, and we should bring in Telly Savalas as coach if things don't work out this year. :)

Should have said "not at all sure we'll be seeing free-agency OR the ability to make trades anytime soon."

Thank you Pete.
( It is indeed a Dolphins site).

Cheers,

DID ANY ONE SAW (( MAD MAX 3 )) THE MOVIE

Ok, here comes a bold prediction.

By years end, coach Tony Sparano will be fired. Here is the top reason I think this will happen, this coach loves the wildcat which gives no young QB a chance to continue a drive or get himself out of a bad jam. Too many times I've seen Sparano yank Henne and go with the wildcat and most of the time it failed. Here he goes again this year making sure he has the tools to run a wildcat offense. No QB has a chance with him. So here is my prediction for his replacement, Bill Cowher.

I have officially chimed in.

Cheers,

I've watched McNabb play a lot from close up. Excellent leader. Great judgement on the field. Good accuracy and arm. Not as mobile as he was but a ton more mobile than Henne. In Washington he had no offensive line and no solid targets as well as a coach and offensive coordinator who did not use his talents. The Washington situation was an aberration. I think that in Miami with our improved OL, some young RB (hopefully supplemented with FA), Marshall and Bess he would do fine. He is a smart QB and could adjust to our system and hopefully Daboll would be smart enough to use his ability. I think we should bring him in and let him compete. I would bet he really surprises people. I have little doubt he would supplant Henne. I like Henne and think he will be good but McNabb is just way too experienced and clever, has too much vision and touch for Henne at this stage in his career to match up to him.

Dan….saw your post from earlier….Here’s my response…..

With all due respect to you sir, I am not sure why you would blindly believe anything. Even Reagan said….”Trust, but verify”…….Why would you accept any less. Because Boehner tells us “he doesn’t need to see the pics”. I got news for Mr. Boehner….he works for us….we don’t work for him….so what’s good enough for him is not necessarily what’s good enough for his bosses....the American People.

If you are keeping up with this you will notice that the “official story has been changed at least twice….which is weird when the TOP BRASS says they watched this first hand. That means they didn’t need 2nd hand information……see what I’m saying....

Dan, I fully understand that I do not speak for you…..or millions of other Americans…..but there are millions of Americans who would like some proof…..even though the president dismisses anyone who ask for proof as a conspiracy theorist….so lets get this straight in the simplest sense……

Kris: “Dan….created the internet and invented gasoline”…..

Dan: “Kris…those are some huge accomplishments….can you show me some proof”…

Kris: What are you…some type of conspiracy theorist……even if I showed you you woudn’t believe me……so just believe….there is NO POINT in trying to convince you…..I said it…its true”

Dan: “ OK”……

Dan…..if your/my government never lied…then I may be more likely to take them at face value….but since we know for a FACT that they do….how can you take anybody’s word for it…..

Below are some links you should check out….they deal with….

JESSICA LYNCH…IN HER OWN WORDS (watch both videos)

PAT TILLMAN

OPERTION NORTHWOODS (which is now declassified)

THE GOLF OF TONKIN INCIDENT…….

Please read/watch the material provided…these are not CONSPIRACY’S…..they are fact reported by the main stream media or in actual declassified government docs……

Remember….DISSENT IS THE TRUEST FORM OF PATRIOTISM…ASK QUESTIONS……The fact that the 3rd man in-line for the presidency ISN’T asking questions bothers me……and it should bother you……its called conditioning…..

When questions becomes treason we are ALL in trouble……

And as a man who has served 3 tours in Iraq and who has a brother who has served 3 tours in Iraq and 1 Tour in Afghanistan……I am not even going to address your references to supporting the military…..you just got 7 years of combat time between two brothers alone…..not just the lip service I have been hearing over the past few days…….

Please check out these links….

And Keep in mind….all I’m asking you to do is ASK QUESTIONS……Is that really to much to ASK (PUN INTENDED)….

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/01/gotta-watch-jessica-lynch-then-and-now/

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/24/politics/main2720253.shtml

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB132/press20051201.htm

Signing Vince Young is the best option

Khalid,

I agree.


Cheers,

vince young has a lot to prove...which could make for an interesting qb competition...but I like palmer first. Good fit and he can hit the deep passes.

What about this guy Pat Devlin ?

I would like to know what qb could do squat in the wildcat offense? off the field for 1st and 2nd downs then try to throw on 3rd and 8? Who?

Dump Sparano and the wildcat.
Just sayin,

Question, how good was the wildcat last year ?


Cheers,

You conspiracy whackjobs should get together and buy a freakin island where you can foam at the mouth and talk about government induced earthquakes till the cows come home. Godalmighty what a load of manure. You people were the ones Johnny Cochran wanted on the OJ Simpson jury. "DNA? Duh, what's that? "

Odinseye,

I thought I found some great Pouncey footage for you but then I realized it was his twin brother...sorry & I think you may be on to something unfortunately.

@ Justin Credible

CHAD vs CARSON

75.4 RATING 82.4
3,301 YARDS 3,970
15 TDS 26
19 INTS 20
61.4 PASS PCT 61.8
6.7 YDS PER 6.8
490 PASS ATT 586
4 SEASONS 9
25 AGE 31

Dont know about you but those 66 extra points that carson had would have probably helped last year....in fact you ad roughly 5 ponts per game we would have beat pit, buffalo, clevland and the lions those 66 points = the diference between 7-9 and 11-5. I will gladly take the 26 touchdown throwing carson palmer, and it was a down year for him

Good article Mando.

kris (@ 07:39 PM)

Jessica Lynch made a navigation error,
got lost,
encountered the enemy,
and got gang raped by a bunch of Iraqis.....

She lived most women's worst nightmare.

Its tragic, its sad... but it's also what any reasonable person would assume.

The problem was...there were spin doctors who did not want the press to know what had happened to a female solder during a war.

...so they made up the goofy story.


I don't look upon any of the things that you listed as 'conspiracies.'
The military, and our 'leaders' control the message during times of war.

We shouldn't EXPECT them, in those situations, to NOT be honest with the public.

(Does anyone remember that we killed 'Chemical Ali' at least six times during a span 14 months?!??)

I, for one, wish that they would stop treating everyone like children, but, on the other side of the coin there ARE many people who really have some growing up to do.

Remember...
A long time ago someone said that
"The First Casualty of War Is The Truth"


Thanks to all who have served....YOU ROCK!!!!
.
.

Carson Palmer SUCKS !!!

Yazzi.....

Good post....we might necessarily meet in the middle on this one....but you are mature enough to get your thoughts out in a way that warrants a response.....

I do ask that you check out the links.....and no one could argue your famous quote....

"The first Casualty of war is the Truth".....well said

As much as I don't think Chad has not developed as expected

The Irish have a hero in Phil Lynott.

Personally, I like Vince Young.

THE REASON WE BOMED OUR DAMAGED HELICOPTER WAS...... IT WAS THE SECRET RUOMR ABOUT THE STEALTH HELICOPTER WHO NO ONE CAN DETECT ................

WHO CARES ...THE IMPORTANT THING WE KILLED HIM .

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