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The definitive look at the remaining QB possibilities

The Dolphins will address their need to add a quarterback to the roster once the league year begins and free agency and trades are allowed. That isn't speculation.

The Dolphins will do this because they could not find a quarterback in the draft they were willing to take when they were on the clock.

“Well I think we’ll have to look in free agency if we’re going to do that," general manager Jeff Ireland said. "Certainly we’ll look at all the quarterbacks in depth and (you know) the board didn’t fall right for us to pick up a quarterback. I didn’t feel like we were desperate for one and so we didn’t adjust our board to try to go after one. We stuck with our board and let it fall as it did.”

In a perfect world, the Dolphins would be able to find a player that could be a franchise caliber quarterback. there is really only one of those in the group that is likely to be available. His name is Carson Palmer. If Palmer doesn't become available, and the chances are good he will not, the Dolphins have to get creative and lower their expectations all at once.

What follows is an extensive look at the quarterbacks who are likely to be available and what their situation looks like. I present to you the signal-callers in order of how likely each player would be the answer for the quarterback-hungry Dolphins.

Carson Palmer: I told you in mid March that Dolphins sources were telling me he would be their No. 1 option if he becomes available and at the right time. The Cincinnati Bengals own his rights. He hates the idea of going back to Cincy to a degree that he's promised to retire if he's not traded. The Bengals have said they will not trade him, but they also have obviously moved on -- picking Andy Dalton in the second round of last week's draft. So perhaps the Bengals stick to their word. And perhaps they try to get something for Palmer. It could be nothing. It could be everything! If the Bengals put Palmer on the market, I report to you the Dolphins will be in line to get him. But even if that happens, other teams might also be in line, including Seattle and Arizona. Palmer has stated he'd like to play on the west coast. Seattle coach Pete Carroll coached him at USC. One small bit of trivia: Palmer's agent was also Dan Marino's agent back in the day. Don't know what that means, or if its too much information but I want to share as much with you as possible.

Marc Bulger: He will be starting his 11th NFL season in 2011. He was once considered among the most accurate and most-gifted quarterbacks in the NFL. That was circa 2004-2006. That was also when he was playing behind a solid offensive line and with some talent around him. But the Rams declined as the talent around Bulger aged and disappeared. So he declined. He got beat up and seemed beat down when I saw him play against Miami in 2008. He was bailing out of the pocket. He was rushing his throws. He had happy feet. Bulger was injured in 2009 and then signed a one-year free agent contract with the Ravens in 2010. He did not throw a pass in a game. Some people believe that year off served as a rehab of sorts for Bulger -- a time to heal and find himself again. He will be on the market. And there will be takers because Arizona, for one, might see him as a reclamation project similar to the one they undertook with Kurt Warner -- which worked out pretty well. I believe if the Dolphins cannot get Palmer, Bulger will be their second target. Not anything anyone has whispered to me. Speculation. But it is logical. The Dolphins can sign Bulger for a year or two and offer him a chance to win a starting job. If he beats out Henne, so be it. If he doesn't, he sits. Arizona might be able to offer him the starting job outright. We'll see.

Kyle Orton: He is limited. He is also under contract in Denver. This would have to involve a trade. That would mean the Broncos would have to be willing to get rid of a security blanket. It would signal that club president John Elway is handing the keys to the franchise to Tim Tebow. I don't know that Denver would be ready to do that in the offseason. Elway might want to wait until a training camp competition decides matters. If Elway is convinced Tebow is going to be his quarterback, he might want to get rid of Orton to avoid a QB controversy and also to save Orton's salary and and get compensation for Orton in return. That's not really a situation the Dolphins or any other outside team can really drive. 

Matt Flynn: He is never, ever, ever going to play in Green Bay unless something happens to Aaron Rodgers. So the Packers might be willing to part with this youngster (and winner) for the right draft pick compensation. He played when Rodgers was injured last season. He had a nice performance (3 TD, 1 INT) versus the Patriots in a 31-27 loss. It was his only start of the season. The case for Flynn is simple: He played collegiately in the Southeastern Conference and helped LSU win the national title. He's been very well coached in Green Bay. He's only 25 years old which suggests he could be part of the future. But ... He's unproven and moreso than Henne. He has played in the West Coast offense and the Dolphins don't run that. If the Dolphins are looking at the QB spot with a view of the future, this might be a good move. If they want someone for right now, and aren't eager to give up even modest draft picks, this isn't the move.

Kerry Collins: If this was 2001 instead of 2011, Collins would make great sense. But Collins is 38 years old now and there is no knowing how much he has left in the tank. I'd say he's a good option as a veteran backup that can pick up a game or two in a crisis. But compete to win the job? that is seriously hoping against hope. So why is Collins on this list? He's still got a great arm. He's good in the locker room. He's a professional. He has no off-the-field issues. To me, he makes perfect sense back at Tennessee where he can tutor Jake Locker. I assume that will be his preference. But you never know. He's one of the few guys on this list that isn't exclusively a West Coast offense quarterback.

Matt Hasselbeck: He was amazing in the postseason, throwing seven TDs and and only one INT. I don't know if he was finally healthy. I don't know if he was playing for a new contract. I don't know if the 35-year-old took a drink from the Fountain of Youth. Whatever, Hasselbeck positioned himself into being valuable to someone in free agency. Don't get too excited. Before he played a Pro Bowl player in the playoffs, Hasselbeck was bad in the regular season -- throwing 12 TDs and 17 INTs. That's really no upgrade in stats over what Henne offered the Dolphins. Hasselbeck is and has always been a classic West Coast offense guy, which is not a great fit for Miami's offense. Can the old dog learn a new offense? Will he want to? And would he want to come to a mediocre team in Miami for what might be the end of his career?

Kevin Kolb: He lost the starting job to Michael Vick last season and could now be expendable. The Eagles are expected to entertain trade offers. There are rumors the San Francisco 49ers covet Kolb. There are other reports the Arizona Cardinals will be players in the derby for his services if and when the Eagles open the market for him. I see Arizona as his most likely landing spot. I don't see the Dolphins participating to any degree because the price for him will be higher than any other QB on the trade market -- higher than Palmer, if Cincy budges -- because of his age. But that high price comes with limited experience. He has played 19 games in four years. He has 11 career TDs and 14 career INTs. There are NFL people that see him as a sure thing. There are NFL people that see him as a question mark. The detractors also say Kolb is more suited for a West Coast offense. It's what he knows. It suits his skill set. The Dolphins do not use the West Coast offense.

Vince Young: The Titans are parting ways with their former first-round draft pick. That should give you pause. It would be the second Titans coaching staff that would be comfortable with the idea of getting rid of Young. That should give you pause. And, ultimately, the separation is not really a matter of performance on Young's part but rather because of his locker room and off-the-field and personal dealings with coaches and teammates. That, again, should really give pause. Finally, on the field, Vince Young has been a winner but not really spectacular. Young has played 54 games. He's thrown 42 touchdowns. And 42 interception. I don't see how this makes sense.

Donovan McNabb: What happened? Two years ago he was a really good player. But much like other Philadelphia quarterbacks that go to other teams, McNabb suddenly stunk, throwing more interceptions than touchdowns for the first time in his career. Should McNabb become available, the Redskins will probably try to get something in trade for him. I don't see his trade value to be very high. Maybe a fifth-round pick. The Dolphins and Redskins have a relationship in that they made a trade in the most recent draft. (Maybe TMI again on my part.) I must tell you McNabb was excellent in Andy Reid's west coast offense but he didn't seem to take a shine to Mike Shanahan's run-heavy version of the offense. He also didn't seem to particularly endear himself to Shanahan behind the scenes so that raises red flags as well. Don't see him as a fit.

Kellen Clemens: He's a free agent. He's been with the Jets since 2006 and was once considered the future starter until Mark Sanchez came along. He has a nice arm, a nice disposition, and a history with offensive coordinator Brian Daboll. No, he's not the answer to the quarterback question. He's a possibility as a backup. He would be a guy to remember if the Dolphins fail to find a veteran that can actually go toe-to-toe in a legitimate competition with Henne. Failing that ... Clemens is a possibility. Not possible, you say? Dolphins don't sign good guys when they cannot start in the NFL, you say? Two words: Josh McCown.

Brett Ratliff: You've never heard of the 6-4, 224-pounder from Utah. Neither had I until I started doing some homework. Ratliff played for Dolphins offensive coordinator Brian Daboll in New York. He was traded to the Browns when Daboll came on board in 2009. Somehow he ended up on the New England practice squad. I assume the Browns cut him. And then the Browns signed him off the Patriots practice squad last season. No, he didn't start. He hasn't ever thrown a pass in a game. But if you're looking for a name that Miami might be interested in as a third QB toward the end of training camp, this is the one. Ratliff signed a future's contract with the Titans so he belongs to them right now. (Hey, we're talking QBs here. Everyone's important.)

Yeah, that's about it at the moment. Maybe somebody loses their mind and becomes suddenly available. Otherwise, maybe Dan Marino is itching for a comeback.

 

 

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ANOTHER RUOMR.......... V.CAREY AND CROWDER ARE BOTH ON THE TRADING BLOCK .

CARSON PALMER WILL RETIRE IN 2 YEARS .HE'S OLD .

As Home has said ALL ALONG

QB Vince Young is the best option for the Miami Dolphins


Armando just has his head up his butt on this one

Armando if u want to sleep w Carson Palmer
Just Do It

The rest of us are getting nauseas listening to your man crush on Palmer

It is Sickening

Vince Young would be AWESOME IN MIAMI

PERIOD

Home has spoken

HOME.....


TELL ME WHAT YOU HAD FOR DINNER .

ALoco,

Duh....... Why do have to ask? Home had a nice "HOME" cooked meal tonight.

aloco,
i could possibly see the crowder trade happen. they have a guy in edds who, if he stays healthy, looks like the heir apparent to that spot. the guy can hit and he can play on third downs. in a previous post i mentioned how he had more interceptions in his time a iowa than prince amukamara had at nebraska. all that from the linebacker position.

DM1DOLPHAN.......... GOOD POINYS YOU MADE .

I see no one right at the moment as Crowder's heir apparent. One we didnt draft anyone. Two, Dobbins proved in 2010 he isnt it. Three, are you kidding. Edds was injured far before he definitively prove anything.

Until someone shows definitively this season they can beat the man to be the man. Crowder it will remain in 2011.

Some of our fans are showing Crowder the door, but cant produce anything tangible to replace him with. I hate Crowder popping off at lips with little action as much as most. But until someone takes his job its a evil I'll have to live with.

Plus we have enough team needs without creating new ones where they dont over glaringly exist.

Carson Palmer wears size 18 shoes... That's clown size shoes, He might just fit right in Davies three ring circus... IMHO

When Crowder was given an extension, the guy wasnt signed to a superstar contract. They signed him to a deal commensurate to his play. Im sure there are also performance bonuses installed he's yet to meet. Meaning Crowder's still a deal in eyes of the fo.

DB,
speaking of injuries crowder played 13 games in '09 and 11 in '10 and his production has significantly fallen. i agree, dobbins isn't the answer at the ilb position but he did play in all 16 games but the one thing that stands out is that dobbins only started 6 out of the 16 games in 2010 and had 36 tackles vs crowders 33 in the 11 games he started and played in.

I Hear that Crowder also signed a contract with Nordic-Trak, Makes since seeing how he was on a stationary bike more then he was on the fieeld...

Or Maybe he was gonna give Lance Armstrong a fight in the upcoming "Tour-de-France".... Just saying..

Im sure if Crowder doesnt hit his bonuses. He probably makes about right at where middle of the pack nfl ilb's earn each season. Thats one thing Parcells was pretty good about. Contract structure.

CROWDER WILL JOIN GROVE VERY SOON and will never find a team as gorve .

LIL Aloco, That's not true, Crazy Al Davis loves ex-phins, Like The Fist pumper loves Cowboy discards......

dm1,

You also have to take into account of our 2 ilb's, Dansby is considered by oc's the weaker against the run. Not saying he's bad, but he's being targeted to run after more.

When Crowder was out Dobbins was considered the weaker link. So then Dobbins was ran at far often than Dansby.

With a guy as stoudt against the run as cCrowder, tackle #'s themselves dont tell the full tale of the tape. Crowder isnt a high impact guy as far as fumbles, sacks, and picks. But Crowder is a very highly regarded ilb against the run.

Its just like a shutdown corner. OC's go after him far less so his numbers are far lower too. Crowder's pretty much the same against the run. Teams try and run away from him now. They figure they will have better success runnoing right at Dansby, who isnt so shabby himself.

i'm not saying "show crowder the door." that would insinuate that i'm saying cut him when they have a chance. i'm just saying crowder may be a guy they could look at using to make a trade and maybe get an additional pick in next year's draft.

grove took his 14 million AND RAN BUT NEVER FOUND ANOTHER DUMB TEAM TO TAKE HIM .

WE NEED CROWDER AGAINST THE RUN. HAVENT YOU GUYS EVER WONDERED WHY THE RUN DEFENSE IS SHABBY WITHOUT HIM?

CROWDER IS A BEAST AGAINST THE RUN. wHEN HE'S IN TEAMS ARRUNNING AT DANSBY NOT CROWDER. AS SOON AS CROWDER WAS INJURED AND DOBBINS REPLACED HIM. THEY RAN RIGHT AT DOBBINS WITH GREAT SUCCESS.

MANY OF DOBBINS TACKLES WERE 4-5YDS PAST THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.

dm1,

We dont have not one "PROVEN" ilb against the run like Crowder. Edds may become our new version of the 53 defense(coverage) I-backer. But that's about as much as I expect for now.

CROWDER IS BY FAR OUR BEST ILB AGAINST THE RUN. SO MUCH SO TEAMS ARE RUNNING AT DANSBY INSTEAD. THAT'S THE PRIMARY REASON CROWDERS TACKLE NUMBERS ARE DECLINING SO, EXCEPT DUE TO INJURY.

A RUMOR,,,,,,,,,, THIGGY WILL CUT VERY SOON AND BRADSHAW WILL TAKE HIS SPOT.

I Also hear he(Crowder)Signed a endorsment with Gieco insurance repriesing the "it's so easy even a cavemn can do it", He's a natual, Long slooping forehean, Cro-magnum look,IQ of a caveman, I'll save money on my insurance just from him not needing make-up.......

PLUS CROWDER IS VERY DISCIPLINED AGAINST THE RUN. HE ISNT GOING TO OBVER PURSUE BECAUSE THE PLAY IS GOING AWAY FROM HIM. WHEN A ILB DOES THIS HE OPENS CUT BACK LANES FOR RB'S. OR OFFENSES WILL RUN MISDIRECTION RUN PLAYS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SPOTS WHERE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.

BELIEVE ME GUYS YOU DONT WANT CROWDER GOING ANYWHERE UNTIL WE FIND SOMEONE WHO PLAYS THE RUN AS WELL AS HE DOES.

Inside linebacker, So easy even "A caveman can do it"..........LOL

I'll take mcnabb, seasoned veteran with different atmosphere might do the trick

I agree......don't get rid of him until there is someone better.......

PLEASE GET SOMEONE B E T T E R ! ! !
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Cuban Menance,

ILB such a tough position you need a caveman(Crowder) doing it! LOL........

If Crowder were as proficient at blitzing and coverage as he is against the run. There's no doubt he would be at least a top 3 nfl lb period.

'cAVEmAN'


That IS funny cuban...!
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Cuban,

Add staying healthy to that list! LOL.........

DB,

He also could start on 16 NFL Teams...

Hence the Dolphins are .500%
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couldn't
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Im not sure but Crowder may be better suited to playing in a 4-3 defense at MLB. remember he was drafted by the regime that played a 4-3.

Maybe he would be a better blitzer with 2 DT's in front of him and coming thru that gap. Zack Thomas was a great blitzer coming thru the the two DT's. Crowder was originally drafted as a 4-3 MLB.

i was just thinking that if vince young were to come to the dolphins reshad jones could be the first one to welcome him to the team, "hey vince, remember me?"

ARMANDO:

YOU B-I-T-C-H-E-D ABOUT GETTING MARSHALL FOR TWO 2nd ROUND PICKS BUT OK TO GIVE A NUMBER 2 FOR A WASHED UP QUARTERBACK WHO HAD GREAT WEAPONS AND FINISHED 4-12.

I wish Crowder were 2 inches taller and 15 pounds heavier.....
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If Soliai can become a force to be recogned with as a pass rusher. Then the offense would be forced to double team him in the middle on passing downs. Which automatically opens up free blitzing lanes for our ilbs due to Soliai pass rush double-teams.

reshad jones is definitely one guy i'm excited to see play this year. i can't wait to see him leave some bodies laying on the field.

ALL HAS BEEN;S *LIKE FLYNN,THOUGH* ...FINS HAVENT LEARNED ANYTHING FROM THE PAST 1O YEARS..WE NEED A MOSES TO LEAD US OUT OF THE DESERT////

Alex Smith is also an option.

dm1,

I would not be surprised to see Reshad Jones take Y-Bell's ss position. Y-Bell's great against the run but totally sucks in coverage.

ALEX SMITH's ARM IS WEAKER THAN CHAD P.

LET's SEE HIM GO INTO NY,NE, AND BUFFALO IN THE WINTER.

SOUNDS LIKE A SUPERBOWL TO ME.

I have no idea what Ireland was thinking when he did't make drafting a Quarterback a priority over a got damn running when the free agency and the draft was full of them. A good Quarterback doesn't come along everyday. You should took Mallet you idiot....

also can't wait to see clemons and carrol back in action. the db position seems pretty well set. interested to see wilson play if he makes the team. haven't seen him before and wonder if he's going to be a good addition.

PIT,BAL,CINCY,CLEV,

NAH LET HIM STAY ON THE WEST COAST.

Vince Young would be good but we would be kissing the young QB project goodbye. Don't know if this is ultimately direction upper brass go. Now I'm thinking Henne gets another year and if he fails we draft 1st round QB next year. In this case a McNabb or Bulger make sense for competition and we see how this year goes.

TC,

Absolutely! Im of the same mindset. Why give up draft picks when there's chance you may have to use a #1 on a qb in 2012. That would mean at least 2 of your 7 draft picks are already dedicated to the 2012 draft.

it would be a different story if we knew with 100% certainty we were set with Henne. Then say use a 4th-5th rd pick to aquire a very good backup.

At least we would be going into 2012 with at least 6 picks that we dont have to use at the qb position. The less number of picks you have going into a draft, the less you can afford to miss on any of your picks.

No Alex Smith? Unlike Jamarcus, Vince, or Leinart, this is a first round bust who actually has a future in this league. If the team is looking for a guy who has a legit shot to beat out Henne AND help out in the future, he's your guy. If your looking for a vet to take the job as a stopgap until the future can be drafted, I say pry Kitna's old ass from Dallas.

All of you Pouncey doubters all you have to do is watch the Outback bowl where Florida played Penn State. All you heard was John Gruden saying Pounceys name again and again for outstanding plays. Remember he only played center for one year, so he will get better. I think we had a decent draft, but I didn't like the moving up for getting them. They would have been available when we were to pick and we wouldn't have given up our other picks. Aside from that there are many good players that went undrafted that could come in and help our team. We will just have to wait and see. GO DOLPHINS and as a VET: Good ridence UBL! May your 72 virgins be male!

Very strange stuff on the bloggs today guys....thank FK those limmericks are done...sheeeeyit.!

My take on the QB issue....Henne will be ok...but id take insurance with someone who comes for FREE and is not a distraction....Alex Smith maybe..??? I still Think Thiggy can play...the line he played with that day against was it the Bears???....that line was imploding and he had no time or protection at all....jury is still out...

Vince Young is the only player in that entire list worth going out to get. Bring back Pennington with some ducktape if you must ... but I defn dont' want 70% of that list anywhere close to a starting role on the phins.

Henne lovers can sleep well.

This regime will in no way replace this guy.

I guess Sparano's memory is short. We'll see how Ireland and Sparano feel come week 4 when we are most likely 0-4 and the QB position is struggling...again.

Its all good. At least this regime will only be around one more season.

Henne is the QB for 2011 season and thats final...

You left out T Jack from Minnesota. He started before the Vikings went to the old guy. He's led a team to the playoffs--look it up. Very accurate but struggled in his first playoff game. Could be the vet to push Henne.

Pick up Pat Devlin in the FA draft. Let Henne, Thigpen,and Brandstater compete for the starting QB position.

What about Dennis Dixon,I believe he is a free agent,he's young ,accurate, and he has good pocket awarness.If he is available I say the Dolphins should jump all over him.I rememeber in college he was playing the best out of all the Quaterbacks that year until he tore up his knee.

Carlos,
I agree 100%. Dixon is young, available, has had time to sit and learn on a perennial SB contending team, and can definatly get it done with his feet (4.4 - 4.5 speed). He is actually Vince Young with a real throwing motion and without all the tears.
He was a beast in college, led one of the most prolific offenses in FBS history and was the leading Heisman candidate on the #1 team in the country when he got injured. He tops my list of FA acquistions the Phins should make.

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