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Miami Dolphins players No. 1 to beyond roster limit

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It is time for the annual Miami Herald countdown of the Dolphins roster! Excited? Fired up?

Yeah, I can sense the tension.

Anyway, this is my annual countdown of the players on Miami's roster from the best to the bottom of the roster guys. It should not surprise that No. 1 on the list did not change in 2010. The rest of the list did change.

Take this in. Study it. Tell me where you agree and don't. Understand that rookies and free agents who have never played a game for Miami or even in the NFL are on this list. Those guys are included in the list as projections.

This is a lot to take in. Do it in increments if you wish. This list will be up a while as I'm going on vacation and leave and won't be back until July. Well, I will come back if something happens (like the start of free agency) because I'll only be out of town two of the weeks I'm off.

But otherwise, this is the annual summer vacay post as well as the summer roster list post. If you need to see what I'm up to, you can follow me on twitter.

The list:

1. LT Jake Long: He blew out his left shoulder in November against Tennessee. That wasn't his first injury of the season as he suffered a knee injury in the preseason finale against Dallas. No problem. Long got treatment for the knee and played without issue. He got a harness for the shoulder and continued playing despite knowing he'd need surgery after the season. And he was still a Pro Bowl player for the third time in three seasons.

2. OLB Cameron Wake: Studly. He came from part-time work to a full-time starting job and more than doubled his production. He became one of the NFL's most unrelenting and explosive pass-rushers. The scary thing is Dolphins coach Tony Sparano has said Wake has not yet reached his full potential. He might get better!

3. WR Brandon Marshall: When he's right, when he has the right people around him, when he's used correctly, he can dominate and take over a game. In 2010 he was rarely used right and didn't really have the right people around him. He was good but he and quarterback Chad Henne never meshed. There might be a personality problem going on in that relationship and the problem isn't necessarily Henne's.

4. ILB Karlos Dansby: He was as-advertised in that he was a tackle machine and was solid and a leader. But it is rare when an inside linebacker can be a game-changer. Ray Lewis has done it. Brian Urlacher has done it. Dansby can do it in the future but he didn't do it in 2010. Still, he was a significant upgrade as a free agent.

5. NT Paul Soliai: He was given an opportunity starting the second week of the season and he turned it into a $12 million franchise player payday. It was as if Soliai, at times immature, turned the corner. The question is whether the improvement was his reach for a contract that might fade once he gets paid, or a legitimate and lasting ripening of a fine player.

6. DE Randy Starks: The Dolphins need to keep Starks at one position because he plays quite well when he gets the opportunity to make a position his home. Late last season, Starks was again Miami's best defensive end after starting the year at nose tackle.

7. WR Davone Bess: Exceedingly hard worker. Reliable hands. Dependable route-runner. He is a very good possession receiver and every NFL team needs at least one of those. His receptions (79), yards (820) and TDs(5) were career highs.

8. SS Yeremiah Bell: Always excellent in run-support, he led the team in tackles again. Bell is consistent in that he's had more than 100 tackles each of the past three years. I don't understand why the Dolphins didn't blitz him more often because he's outstanding at that.

9.CB Vonate Davis: Most physical and potentially dominating cornerback on the team. He still has not made the climb from "being there" on contested balls to "winning" the battle for most of those balls. He's good now. Not excellent. Not great. Not very good. Good.

10. DE Kendall Langford: An end in the 3-4 defense is never going to be a big-playmaker if he's not named Suh. So Langford hasn't been a playmaker but has been solid and consistent. There is a step or two Langford could take to reach a level of excellence that would turn Miami's front into a dominant unit.

11. DE Phillip Merling: Merling asctually played relatively well when he returned from the non-football injury list last year. It suggests he has matured and could be ready to finally meet the potential that made him the No. 32 overall selection in 2008.

12. CB Sean Smith: He was humbled a year ago in losing his starting job to Jason Allen. Jason Allen! He didn't quit. He never gave up. He fought through adversity, although it was of his own making. He regained his job and played well. The difference between playing well and being a star? Smith drops every pass that hits his hands. He could have had eight or nine interceptions a year ago. Time to catch those, Sean.

13. WR Brian Hartline: He was open enough and effective enough to suggest he can continue to be a good deep-threat option. His stats -- 43 catches for 615 yards -- would have seemed nicer if quarterback Chad Henne had connected with him on the handful of times Hartline got open behind defenses.

14. ILB Channing Crowder: Solid. That's what he's always been when he's healthy. But excellent? Game-changing? Nope.

15. OLB Koa Misi: Starter who showed a great motor. He never gives up on a play. He is relentless. He needs to get stronger both in the upper and lower body. Once he truly becomes a technician at his craft, he has potential to be an eight- or nine-sack a year guy.

16. C Mike Pouncey: First round pick. Not exciting, but a safe pick. Why was it a safe pick? Because Pouncey is going to be a very good player. That's why. When he proves it, he'll rise on this list.

17. TE Anthony Fasano: He is unappreciated because he's not playing in a great passing offense, he's had some memorable drops in previous years, and doesn't like media attention too much. That doesn't mean he's a bad player. Fasano was second on the team with 13.5 yards per catch (among players with double-digit catches). He was fourth on the team in catches and yards. Great? No. Good? Yes.

18. RB Daniel Thomas: Second round pick better be Miami's top rusher in 2011 because, well, that's what he was picked for. He'll share the load with whatever free agent running back Miami lands. Obviously, this is a projection.

19. QB Chad Henne: Anytime a QB is not among the Top 10 best players on the team, that team is in trouble. Anytime a QB throws more interceptions than touchdowns and gets benched at least once in the season because the team isn't scoring enough, he cannot be ranked too highly and definitely not in the Top 10.

20. RB Ronnie Brown: Good man. Fearless every Sunday. But not the greatest instincts, and injuries seem to have sapped speed and explosion.

21. RB Ricky Williams: He had flashes but they are coming farther and farther apart now. He no longer has the amazing burst he once had, he no longer breaks tackles or avoids tackles in the second level.

22. G/C Richie Incognito: He was the team's best interior lineman. He was not the problem.

23. RT Vernon Carey: He has the ability to be the most frustrating player on the offensive line because he has the ability to be an A-player but has too often been a C-minus player. His best season came in 2008 when he was pushing for a new contract. He hasn't played at that level since.

24. FB Lousaka Polite: Good blocker. Good short-yardage runner. He might be replaced in 2011 if the Dolphins put their expected greater emphasis on the H-back postion over FB.

25. P Brandon Fields: He followed his best NFL season in 2009 with his second best NFL season in 2010 -- although the two blocks he suffered (not really his fault) look bad on his stat sheet. His 31 punts inside the 20 were a career high.

26. K Dan Carpenter: After connecting on 89 percent of his kicks in 2009, he dropped to a disappointing 73.2 percent in 2010 and had two kicks blocked. The end of Carpenter's season was a nightmare, as he booted only two of his seven final attempts. He did deliver 14 touchbacks on kickoffs, tying the number for the previous two years combined.

27 (tie). DE Tony McDaniel: There is thinking out there that McDaniel, a free agent in 2011, will go elsewhere because he will price himself out of the Dolphins market. That's is possible. But I would argue the Dolphins need to be very careful not to undervalue McDaniel because neither Odrick nor Merling are absolutes based on their histories. On a scale of 1-10, McDaniel is a solid 7. You don't want to lose those.

27 (tie). C Joe Berger: Berger was a pleasant surprise in that he was a solid C to B-minus center most of the year. He was the improbable starting center last year when the Jake Grove experiment proved a failure. And it would not be surprising if Berger is the starter early in training camp while Mike Pouncey gets acquainted. But that won't last barring an injury to Pouncey or others.

29. S Chris Clemons: Solid. Doesn't make mistakes. But neither does he really make any big plays. He had only one interception in 14 starts.

30. S Reshad Jones: He's a ball magnet and he will compete for a starting job with Chris Clemons in training camp. Truth is I expect him to win the job. He had one interception in two starts, which is the same as Clemons had in 14 starts. Until he wins the job, however, he finds himself just behind the starer.

31. G John Jerry: Last year it was about him being a rookie, and him being unable to get back from his early-season sickness, and his need for being stronger and his need for using better technique. This season it has to be about Jerry overcoming those issues and living up to his potential.

32. DE Jared Odrick: He was a starter the first week of the season and then was lost for the rest of the season. He has much to learn. He has much to improve upon. And he must stay healthy because durability is a category on which players are judged every bit as much as ability.

33. QB Chad Pennington: He was coach Tony Sparano's choice to lead the team in the crucial point of the season but although Pennington's spirit was willing, his flesh was weak. He sufferedanother shoulder injury on his first possession of the game he started. Having suffered another injury playing basketball this offseason, the Dolphins seem prepared to move on. If he's healthy, he's better than Henne.

34. CB Benny Sapp: He was on the team last year because Will Allen got hurt. He didn't disappoint but neither did his play impress. The Dolphins want to push Sapp to either make him better or find someone better.

35. ILB Tim Dobbins: Solid backup and that's a big deal because Crowder is injury prone and even Dansby got hurt at the end of last year. 

36. S Tyrone Culver: Solid role player in dime defense. Solid special teams tackler. He's .... solid.

37. CB Nolan Carroll: Ah, if only he'd caught that interception versus Cleveland. He could have been a hero. As it was, he was a rookie making mistakes and trying like crazy to compete. Carroll has great speed. Decent ball skills. Good work ethic. Let's see if those translate in Year 2.

38. LS John Denney: The only time one notices him is when he botches a snap. But he doesn't do that and that makes him valuable. Excellent at his craft.

39. QB Tyler Thigpen: Gutsy, willing to gamble, and strong-minded, he has the personality of a winner. But he's erratic and just as likely to throw two interceptions as two touchdowns in a game.

40. CB Will Allen: He's got to prove he can still contribute after missing two years because of injuries.

41. WR Marlon Moore: That 57-yard TD catch against Oakland was an eye-opener. But he had some troubling drops in the following couple of games and was basically iced against Buffalo before returning the final two games of the season. He had two catches for 43 yards in the season-finale so he finished on a high note. It is time to go higher.

41. WR Roberto Wallace: Big. Strong. A fine special teams player. Good hands. But still largely unproven. His special teams ability is the reason he played ahead of Moore most of the season.

42. WR Edmond "Clyde" Gates: Yeah, he doesn't like to be called Edmond. He likes Cylde. I'll call him Mr. Clyde if he lives up to his speed and blows the top off defenses likes he's supposed to. We'll see. This is obviously a projection.

43. S Jonathon Amaya: Great hitter on special teams. He might have been Miami's most effective special teams hitter late in the season.

44. RB Patrick Cobbs: His role on offense declined to practically zero last year. That showed .. 1. The coaching staff's hesitation to seek alternatives to underpeforming Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams and 2. Cobbs' inability to show himself worthy of a shot. Yes, he was the special teams captain. But Miami's special teams were terrible. Solid locker room presence. 

45. OLB Ikaika Alama-Francis: There was much buzz about Alama-Francis early in the season but injuries and circumstances prevented him from playing up to that buzz. He's a hard worker and a solid run-stopper.

46. TE Charles Clay: Hopefully this kid becomes a latter day Chris Cooley or Dallas Clark. No idea if he'll be even in the same conversation thus his low ranking.

47. DB Jimmy Wilson: A seventh-rounder who missed two years while in prison facing murder chargers, Wilson is obviously a gamble. He's also got the feels of a special teams contributor.

48. RB Lex Hilliard: Time to be more than a special teams player because the Dolphins are looking for viable running back options and he's not exactly the first name on anyone's lips among team insiders. With the team bringing in more special teams talent, 2011 could be a turning point year.

49. ILB A.J. Edds: The plan has not changed from a year ago in that he will be a passing situation substitution for Channing Crowder or Karlos Dansby if he has the abilities the team thought he did when he was drafted.

50. OLB Quentin Moses: Extremely under-rated. Mostly unknown. Can you believe he's been on the team since 2007? Says something for his latent ability which is little used. He did

51. Nate Garner: He was going to get a chance to compete to start at G when he got hurt and was lost for the year. Now the onus is on to prove he can recover and show some durability. 

52. OL Pat McQuistan: He started a handful of games. He should be a backup.

53. T Lydon Murtha: He is good stay active and take to the game as a backup. Is he good enough to displace someone on the starting unit? I doubt it, but I'd like to see him try. It can only make everyone better.

54. G Rey Feinga: His chances of winning a starting job are also dependent on the health of other players. Betting on someone to be hurt is a tough way to earn a living.

55. DT Frank Kearse: The Dolphins need a backup for Soliai not named Starks. Kearse has the opportunity to be that guy. Does he have the ability?

56. WR Julius Pruitt: He was active the regular-season finale but didn't catch a pass. He's been all about potential. It's time to be about production.

57. ILB Austin Spitler: The youngster got better at his special teams duties later in the season.

58. WR Patrick Carter: He's been in camp with Seattle, Tampa Bay, Denver, Baltimore, and was most recently on the Hartford Colonels. He's 26 now so this camp is probably his make-or-break NFL moment. Don't bet on make.

59. LB Mark Restelli: A free agent signee from the CFL. He's only 6-2 and 215 so he needs to get better. He's strictly a special teams guy if he makes the team at all.

60. T James Marten: The Dolphins are his fourth team in four years and he's still a project player.

61. QB Tom Brandstater: Late season signee and never really an option to play. Don't expect much different in 2011.

62. RB Kory Sheets: He had speed and potential before an Achilles' injury. No idea if he has either now.

63. CB Nate Ness: Cut in the preseason, then cut by Seattle when he was toasted during one game, he returned as insurance against injuries.

64. FB Deon Anderson: Dolphins have to learn that signing every Dallas Cowboys reject is not a good idea. Anderson was signed after the Cowboys dropped him and he promptly got hurt one week into his Dolphins career. He probably won't be on the team this year.

65. LB Mike Rivera: He's been jumping from practice squad to practice squad and was active only for the season-finale against New England. I simply do not know enough about him to give you an idea which direction he's going.

66. T Matt Kopa: Signed off the 49ers practice squad in November, he was mostly just insurance and was inactive the final seven games of the season.

67. DE Ryan Baker He's undersized. He's probably not the most naturally gifted player. But he works. He studies the game. He is a good guy in the community.

68. G Cory Procter: He was a backup most of the year before going on injured reserve in late November. He's likely played his final game with the Dolphins.

69 (tie). TE Dedrick Epps: Young kid. Project.

69 (tie). TE Mickey Shuler: Young kid. Project.

69 (tie). TE Jeron Mastrud: You kid. Project.

(Not rated) T Allen Barbre: He spent one week with the Dolphins last year, the final week of the season. I have no idea what he's about.

(Not rated) DT Chris Baker: Don't know enough about him.

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Redsky...No, but because of the flooding the roads leading to Cooke City have been closed since Saturday. No mail, no deliveries, no tourists for the beggining of the Summer season. If you can call it summer. It snowed 8 inches over the weekend. It is crazy. I have lived here 17 years and this is no doubt the most weather I have seen. The snow hasn't even started melting in the mountains. The flooding is going to get really bad down country. eventually the sun will get high enough that it will warm up..look out! Thanks for asking, We are suffering, but not like the folks in Musselshell county, or Carbon County..

Actually, I think the lyrics are

Darryl, you mean I can still go ski?

ALoco..Funny you should ask about the jukebox. It is about as well known as the bar for it's ecletic selection..Mostly old R&B stuff, a lot of Grateful Dead music, a few Clash albums, some old school Punk Rock, A lot of Reggae music, Ska, some Miles, some Coltrane, some Monk. And of course...The Velvet Underground "Loaded" Even some old country. Don Williams, Waylon, Willie, oh and The Who"Live at Leeds"

Darryl, awesome jukebox! GREAT selection!

Redsky...There are years when you can Ski until July..good Skiing. The Red Lodge Ski academy has a lift on top of the Beartooth pass. It is for experts only, in fact you have to pass a proficiency test before you can ride there. It used to be the US ski teams summer training sight..It is freakin balls. Steep!
But right now if the road was open, their would be hundreds of skiers, and snowboarders doing their thing on the switchbacks. Good skiing, lots of rocks. Gotta know where your going or you can get jacked up. Do you ski?

Darryl, yes, I ski, I taught my sons how to do dbl blacks, I, at 59, do single blacks and the bar, apre's ski!

DD,Are you guys still getting snow up there in the Tundra?

IS MANDO GONNA GO ON VACATION AND THE BLOG WILL SHUT DOWN AND WE"LL HAVE TO GO TO SUN SENTINAL AND BE ABUSED BY THE TK8.

DARRYL, DO THE FEMALES WEAR SHOES WHERE YUO ARE?

Shut up with you stupid talk. I make Greek salad and take nap now.

Darryl, we in Miami can out ski you guys! Anytime, anywhere! Loser buys drinks :) can't lose that way!

Aloco, they have to wear shoes in Montana, it's cold there, they still have snow

Our trip to Cooke City, MT, would be better than a cruise, we'll go to MI, crash with Odin, then go to Darryl's!

Heat Sweeps Mavs In Four!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmmmmmmmm, I wonder how long will it be before dolfans start the Jim Tressell to replace Tony Sparano lynching mob?

Armando,Ok so I'm way off the subject here. what concerns me a little (or a lot). I keep reading about players and teams getting together for there own private training/workouts. Oddly, or maybe I missed it. Doplhin players have not been mentioned. Should'nt this be a concern, well it should be if your name is Henne and you have lots to prove. has anyone heard anything about Dolphin players holding there own practice????? Just wondering.

DB, I was wondering, in an alcohol induced stupor, if that was a lame possibility! Then nick saban came to mind, and I sobered up!

Goodnight guys! Yankees wins, Heat wins, I'm happy!

Wade, James come alive in time to put Heat up 1-0 on Mavericks

Taking control in the second half, the Heat win a defensive struggle behind 24 points from LeBron James and 22 from D-Wade in a 92-84 NBA Finals-opening victory.

The Heat Destroyed The Celtics, The Bulls and now the Mavs in the playoffs

The Heat 9-0 @ HOME !

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Best team in the NBA = Miami Heat


Now Get Your Shine Box !

It's All Bout The Heat in Miami !

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We should also have rankings for our favorite ALocos. Here are mine.

1. Fake ALoco

2. ALoco

3. The other Fake ALoco

4. Cuban Menace

The All Time best Aloco is Armando Salguero!

i'm at the bottom of the bloggers list -often here but often comatose

i would like to win the hungriest blogger award though

can i have that?

Morning guys heat won marlins won now if we could only get these idiots to agree on a new cba it would be a perfect day!!!

I don't know if it is a good or a bad thing that I did not make a list... lol

Not a good thing when your 5th ranked player begins the mediocrity of the teams depth.

Not sure why Marshall get the benefit of the doubt on this list with all of his drops, and not being able to get seperation.

But Henne does not get the benefit of the doubt for ANYTHING. I would think he would be 10 on this list and Lngford drops to 11 and so on. JMO.

Poizen -- I have you ranked #11 on my Dolphins in Depth poster list just be hind Darryl Dunphy and right ahead of Mark in Toronto.

THIS BLOG WOULDN'T EVEN EXIST WITHOUT ME.

Poizen,

Probably because Marshall has a history of being one of the best at his position in the league, and multiple 100+ catch years, and was honored by being selected to the ProBowl multiple times.

Where are Henne's list of qualifications for getting the benefit of the doubt? Two 7-9 seasons? Bunch of inconsistent performances? Not regarded by anyone other than people here as even in the top 2/3 of QBs currently in the NFL?

Look, I'm all behind Henne, he's our best hope right now. I want him to succeed, I want him to impress. It was be terrific if he's the answer at QB we've been looking for. But let's not go overboard, and accept the situation as it is. Henne, while supposedly breaking all these elite QB's rookie stats (so I hear a lot on this site), hasn't looked elite at anything but being inconsistent. That's just what it is.

Henne doesn't need to worry about being compared unfavorably to Brandon Marshall. He needs to worry more about passing him the ball in open space so he has a chance to run after the catch and not have to do a 180 and make a miraculous catch for 3 freakin' yards.

The thing I enjoy most about dropping posts on this blogg is in putting up my Football I.Q. against the other`s who post here. In that regard there are alot of guys on this sight who can really dish some nice tidbits on the history of the game along with some serious in depth Football knowledge. I`ve been on a few sights incuding the Sun Sentinel and mostly what you get is page after page of people going on and on about everything except Football while here on this sight we have at it with some serious discussions about the game.

I have no interest to come on-line and rap about the latest Movie I should go see or Bar I should hit, when I want the 411 on those topics I`ll visit sights designed to inform me about them. I must admit that I think I have an encyclopedia`s worth on information regarding Pro Football in my head but some of the guys on here really put me to the test. In that regard I don`t think it`s fair to say two or three are better than the rest because in my opinion it`s probably closer to about 10.

If I were going to give a list in no particular order then I`d say the following could probably hold there own in any Football related discussion. Derek4, odin, Rob in the O.C., Darryl Dunphy, 0x80,Dying Breed, Kris, Poizen, CraigM, DC Dolphan, Oregon, and our on sight historian redsky ect... with honorable mention going to blog Court Jester Aloco and I`m still probably leaving some guys of any Football related debate list

henne will never start another game for us

dus bot

r u quoting parcells just before he packed his bags or r u making predictions that we can throw back when henne starts even if he crashes and burns?

I was in Miami this weekend, Sobe traffic was bumper to bumper for miles on end, and nearly everyone were rocking Heat and Marlins gear.

Concerning the Dolphins, I was very fortunate to have a "relative" who worked for Sun Life stadium who gave me a personal tour. I was down on the field, different levels of the stadium itself, even seeing the indoor airconditioned Marlins batting practice cage.

I also saw the Marlins 2 world series trophy and even saw the Dolphins two super bowl trphies which are stored in an area where no one's allowed. Guys I also in the Dolphins lockeroom, showers, and trainers room. I took lots of video with my apple ipod.

What a once in a lifetime experience it was! With so much to do and see, imo Miami is still the magice city and city of champions!

how long b4 we have 3 sb trophies

by no means do i think we're very close but neither do i think we're that far away

u only have to watch a few america's game's to see how teams have come from surprising mediocraty (spell?) and suddenly got it together

my biggest problem for our fins this season is the lack of coach player contact when we have new coaches and new system


i'm a firm believer in giving things time peolple want to change things too fast too quick


sparano and ireland should be given time if they get to 9-7 or better next season

build towards consistent success not 1 yr wonder

wolf I believe we can make a very serious run at sb trophyIII 2012 if Henne makes a huge jump in turning the corner concerning his progression in 2011. Henne's 2011 performance will send clear message as to our near future championship hopes moving forward.

Dusty, then who will be QB (since Henne's the only signed at the moment), and I don't know ANYONE (expert or fan) who's predicting an end to the lockout anytime soon? Can we really get a QB 2nd week of August and expect them to be ready to play opening weekend? I think not.

DB, very cool man. Sounds like a helluva time. Too bad your relative isn't getting their full-salary right now, how did they feel about all that (and did they have any insider news on the lockout)?

right on db - its the hope that hurts - but i'd rather stay deluded and optimistic than deluded and think we're doomed

half full not half empty

Still question marks linger on the defensive side of the ball too. At the lb corps anyone not named C Wake or C Dansby has to step it up. Misi has to show signs of becoming a dominant force in 2011. Crowder still has to prove he can stay healthy an entire season. While still contributing a very high level of production.

At db positions, Sean Smith has to prove he can catch a cold. Vonte has to prove he can be inspired to be a shutdown corner vs lower level competition. Davis tends to play up and down to the level of competition he faces.

Y-Bell needs to prove he can cover his own shadow, let alone even mediocre nfl TE's. C Clemons has to be more than just solid at fs. Free safety is a playmaking position, not a position designed to just play it safe.

Sapp couldn't cover an ant with a manhole cover.

DC,

I really dont know, I was so excited about the tour he was giving me I never thought to ask. What I do know for sure is that the Dolphins locker room was about 4 gatorade towels short when we left there. LOL>>>>>>>>>

DC @12:47

Your question regarding a Q.B. coming in and being able to take over in mid August is a good point and the reason I don`t think we make any moves on that front till the 2012 season. It really is sink or swim time with Henne and I`m o.k. with that. If Henne can start during the course of the season to show signs of life in his ability to right his game then great!! If he can`t then we mortage next years draft picks in order to aquire Q.B. that can play that route, please no more selling me on some teams after thought Q.B. and telling me it`s a helping of chicken salad when my eyes are teling me it`s chicken c h y t.

We can`t as fans though expect to see Henne come flying out of the blocks if he is only going to have a month or less to digest the new scheme while geting his timing down with new Rec.`s as well. I have had the argument with folks that say Pennington was able to do that for us back in 08 but if you examin what happened that year you`ll remember he doesn`t really start to come on till October it was the Wild Cat early and often on that team.

yup the d had immense games and moments but still managed to give up huge plays at critical times, sometimes just after our weak offense had managed to produce the goods the d gave up a big td play

this is like the off going 3 and out or throwing an int, - the offense r back where they started

whatever anyone says about talent and training football is still about the mental game about player emotions and their reponse to challenge, winning teams help themselves and each other when it matters, the fins need to learn to understand this as much as nay playbook

win control of yourself and u win control of your destiny

belief is all it takes

wolf,

Too pretty much sum up your 1:05 PM post, on both sides of the ball Dolphins players need to learn to recognize the moment, then just settle down and learn to play within that moment just one play at a time.

fin, good point on coming out the gates blazing. I agree totally. Actually, I'd be amazed if there was anything resembling Professional Football until say November. Plus think about all the injuries those first couple of months. Heck, I'd sit Odrick until the end-of-season to make sure he doesn't get hurt this year, lol.

But, regarding Henne, while I believe the QB position (and the QB position alone) is standing in the way between us and competing for a Playoff spot every year, I'm not looking for Henne to be All-Pro in 2011. I'd be happy with more consistent play from him. Good decision-making, more accurate passing, better leadership of the offense, more attention to game management, more TDs, less INTs, that would make me happy. If that doesn't jive with an 11-5 record, so be it (I'd look to someone else to blame for that). But if Henne can just be a good game manager for now (like Pennington was), he'd go a long way to win back my trust and respect.

If we bring in a FA Q.B. then let it be either VY or Bulger and my reasons for sticking with those two are the following.I read were some posted last week on the Bulger debate how there simply talking him up in Baltimore and what they would require for him in terms of picks or compensation and I`ll tell you what there going to get for him, NOTHING!!! He`s Unrestricted and free to sign with anybody once the new CBA is in place.

I don`t get some of the knocks on him cause I remember him putting up monster numbers with Bruce and Holt. He didn`t have the luxury Warner had of a slot guy like Az Hakim and Faulk was hurt alot when Bulger took over as well, then to boot Martz neglected the hell out of his O-Line and left him back there to be crucified week in and week out.It was a real wonder he was abe to finnish his last season there vertical

In VY you have the most enticing talent at Q.B. to ever hit the open market during the FA period. I understand the risks with him but the upside is to overwhelming with him to ignore, if he coud get his head on right and I for one suspect he can or the 10 Mil a year contracts are a thing of the past, never underestimate a man on a mission to get paid. The others like Orton and Pamer would require to much in the way of compensation and I would assume just wait out the rookie Q.B. class of 2012.

Ha! Thanks for the inclusion on lists, still not sure if that is a good thing. Except f4l, that was a cool list to be on, thanks.

I get it DC, It just seems there were "disclaimers" for Marshall, and last year he was good at times, and bad at times.

There were no diclaimers about Henne running a terrible O-scheme and a makeshift O-line. there was just a comment that it is NEVER good when your QB is below 10...

So that just stuck out, You make a good point though DC.

Poizen @1:23,

Yeah ! I saw some lists being tossed around about best on sight posting and felt it short changed alot on here, given the Heavyweight debating we do. Isn`t Mando`s list just a little rediculous though? I mean he has guys from Rookies to street FA that have never played on there? I guess we know how the debate about who the best on here posting got started because for me after having really read thru that list it made little sense? By the way any list about Impact players and Miami would need Carpenter in the top 10 he was after all our most dangerous weapon inside the 20, LOL!!!!

Guys, with the way the Marlins are now playing, then especially the Heat. In 2011, the dolphins will have thier hands full just proving they are one of the better professional teams in the city of Miami, let alone the nfl.

I just left Miami and almost down to every man, woman, and child. The Miami Heat are now predominantly the city's #1 sports team with the Marlins now running a distant 2nd. At present the Dolphins may only be slightly ahead of the Canes in popularity at this point. The Panthers are dead last.

The Miami Heat are the new Kings of the city of Miami now. Only a Sb trophy will restore the fins to thier long lost throne as Kings of I-95 South.

Guy, now really, who gives a damn about how the players are "individually" ranked on this "team". Last I checked this is a "team sport".

We win as a team and lose as a team. So why are you guys getting so involved about Armando's "personal opinion" of team player rankings? Remember, opinions are like a-ssholes, everyone has one.

No individual player alone will have us hoist the Lombardi. E$veryone has a job to do and everyone must execute thier invidual jobs weel to promote "team success".

I dont know about the rest of you but Im more concerned about how we rank as a team far more than how we rank as individual players within that team. The latter is what will be far more important when it comes down to championship aspirations. This is not tennis or golf.

I agree the list is a tad silly, However, we aint gots any more good football to talk about, you hear what im saying... yo. Anyway, a little I-talian frustration.

I must say, he took a good amount of time writing that list... so I have to think there was a sober monet, then buzzed, then tipsey then... I gotta wake up in the mornin... :)

DB,

What`s up!!! I agree everybody in town is sporting there Heat apparrell, especially today I was dropping of my kid at school and it was a wave of Heat jerseys over there uniforms. I however am diehard Dolphins didn`t pick a hande like Fin4life for nothing and will stick thru and hope Hollywood Ross begins to catch on about running a Pro Football team and by the way am not reading to much into Mando`s list just felt it a little rediculous on face value when he`s putting guys on it that have never walken on an NFL field during the reg. season as well as street FA.

Poizen @1:55

The list is beyond silly and if we can`t pick it apart then he shoudn`t have put it up and by the way when was the last time we got a post on the current state of events regarding the CBA? See my point there is relevant stuff to discuss and debate regarding each sides stance.

By the way your right Mando was a bit tipsy when he put this list together, I mean he has Pennington ranked as our 33 best player? Really!! A washed up Q.B. who will never play again is our 33rd best, then we really are in a heap of trouble.

LOL!!! True, I would love to know what is going on behind the scenes. This lockout sucks.

wow!!! ignorace really is bliss...how can u rank any of the '11 draft class? they havnt even been signed much less played a single down of professional football...this blog used to be the place to go for dolphin related info...now its nothing more than a toilet that u dump all ur usless info into...get real

Not very impressed with Armando's list. But I haven't been very impressed with most of his stories the past several months either.

Scheme and structure elevate or diminish the production of players profoundly.

How about a story on the Henne led workouts?

It seems the discussion gets more in depth in his absence somehow.

Oh and Finfan, thanks for inclusion on your list.

There is alot of impressive football knowledge on this blog and I learn new things all the time.

Have the Fins ever run an offensive play in which Long did not get pancaked flat on his back? I've never seen it.

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