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My grade of Dolphins draft: Why do you care?

Let's begin with the fact that no one -- not me, not you, not Mel Kiper nor Mel Gibson for that matter -- can give you an absolutely fair and accurate grading of the Dolphins draft.

I haven't seen these guys on the field. So I have no idea if Charles Clay is the next coming of Chris Cooley or Dallas Clark. I have no idea if Mike Pouncey is as good or better than Maurkice Pouncey. I don't know whether Edmond Gates will play like Mike Wallace of the Pittsburgh Steelers or Mike Wallace of 60 Minutes.

So why does everyone want a grade for the draft?

Why did I get 127 151 e-mails since Friday asking me to grade the draft, some of those before the draft was even over?

Post-draft grades from the media are bogus. They are ignorant. They are an exercise in futility. They are a waste of your time.

Alright, are you ready for my grade?

Here we go:

The case: The Dolphins addressed the long-standing need for a center in Pouncey. They came into draft with only two running backs on the roster and no second round pick and got running back Daniel Thomas in the second round. They needed speed badly that might both improve Miami's ability to get behind the secondary and maybe put a charge in the special teams returns game. The Dolphins want to run a double-tight look a lot with one of those an H-Back type. The team had Paul Soliai locked up as its starting nose tackle and needed some help behind him. And, in the bottom of the musts-needs-wants totem pole, the club wanted a playmaker in the secondary.

The results: The Dolphins got the highest-rated interior lineman on their board in the first round and expect him to start at center. They landed Thomas while other teams were in the middle of a run (pardon the pun) on running backs. They yielded a third-round (valuable), fifth-round (valuable) and seventh-round pick (not so much) to get into the second round. Edmond Gates is now the man they Dolphins expects will "knock the top" off defenses. He is now charged with being deep open to give the QB a chance at a big play. Oh, and he's got a shot at helping on teams in the return game. Charles Clay was versatile and valuable at Tulsa as a fullback and pass-catcher. He's supposed to be good in space. We'll see if that space is located 10-15-20 yards down field. Frank Kearse comes as Miami's project mountain-sized nose tackle. And Jimmy Wilson is the gamble with the final pick that could add an athletic, hard-hitting, angry, sometimes too angry hitter that might upgrade special teams and knock some balls loose.

The projections: Mike Pouncey will start at center. If he doesn't, something went terribly wrong. I don't believe anything will go wrong here. He's solid, smart, and tough. He's a competitor and winner. I predicted this pick and agree with it. Daniel Thomas is another pick I predicted so how the heck am I going to rip it? He'll bring speed to the position that Ronnie Brown seemed to lose in recent years. He'll offer some second-level elusiveness the Dolphins haven't seen in a long time and one would not expect from a 230 pound running back. Gates is the X-factor. If he makes it, this draft makes it! If he's a bigtime playmaker, the Dolphins will score points, improve the passing game and help keep people honest on the running game, and, oh yeah, there's also the possibility I might see a punt-return or kickoff-return TD before I retire. Kearse smells like a practice squad guy to me. Wilson needs to be on his absolute best behavior -- that's the way it is for someone who's been tried for murder. I don't care that he got off, he is by all accounts not an angel. He needs to watch himself and not sully the name of the franchise. Dolphins do that in other ways already, they don't need to add more of that stuff. Clay? Please, please, please makes some plays in space against overmatched LBs and safeties.

The misses: No quarterback. The Dolphins didn't pick either Ryan Mallett nor Andy Dalton in the first round, they passed on Mallett in the second round, and could not trade up to Mallett in the third although I have reported they tried. Bottom line? Mallett would have been a reach early and everyone agreed. I think he just wasn't right for the Dolphins because he needs to go to a situation where he sits for a good, long time and learns to be a professional. He wouldn't have gotten that in Miami. He would have been thrust into a starter competition and because Chad Henne is not a star, Mallett might have won. And then he would have been overmatched with the things it takes for a guy to succeed as an NFL QB -- not just the on-field stuff, but off the field as well. He might become a fine player eventually in New England. I think he would have failed in the wrong situation and Miami was the wrong situation. I wonder why the Dolphins didn't go with Pat Devlin late? Twelve QBs were taken and Devlin was not. Will be interesting to see if Dolphins chase him as an undrafted free agent when that's allowed. finally, it hurts me the Dolphins didn't land Taiwan Jones. Loved him. Loved his 4.3 speed. Thought he had that innate ability to keep defenders from hitting him on flush every time. The great ones have that ability. Yes, Taiwan Jones had fumble issues. Guess what? So did Daniel Thomas.

The spin: The Dolphins didn't have a second-round pick when the draft began because they yielded it and one last year for Brandon Marshall. GM Jeff Ireland talked about Marshall being among Miami's first three picks. No. Second round picks won't make some $18 million the next few years. Second round picks don't come to the team with a reputation for not meshing with the starting quarterback. Second round picks don't usually come with a long domestic violence history and a newly sewn abdomen from a knife wound inflicted by a wife. Second round picks also don't come with the experience Marshall has and the almost certain guarantee that he'll give you 85 catches for 1,000 yards. It's a two way street. But adding him to the draft is spin.

The bottom line: I like the job Ireland did. Really do. He made the best of a tough situation because he came into the draft without a second-round pick while not drafting particularly high. The way to get great is not by drafting where mediocre teams draft. It's hard to find a big-time star there. I didn't love that Ireland had to give up that fifth-rounder while the Patriots were adding picks for next year. (Told him as much, too). But I understand he didn't have much of choice. He needed a running back. Maybe Pouncey is better than his brother. Maybe Thomas is Adrian Peterson. Maybe Clay is Dallas Clark. Maybe Gates is Mike Wallace. If that's the case, this draft will be an awesome haul. I don't see all of that happening. More likely these generally safe, solid, logical picks will add a couple of solid starters, maybe one playmaker, and some guys whose names we won't remember three years from now.

The grade: C++. It is better than average. It is way better than average. But good? Can't be when you didn't draft in the third and fifth rounds. Can't be when you couldn't find a QB. Can't be when I haven't seen any of these players on the field. (By the way, I give the Pats a C+. They had a chance to go for the kill shot on the AFC East and didn't do it.  They continue to put off for next year what they could do now, apparently not realizing Tom Brady continues to age and when he's done, they're done -- Ryan Mallett notwithstanding.)



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dark Matter, if I knew better as you call it, i would not make the comment i did.

You can not threaten with a deep ball unless the line is consistant. Henne will rush throws all day because he has no clue who is going to miss an assignment.

You really think that D's teed up on us because os the so called "Henne sucks"? Your way off base man. To have a deep play your QB needs to have time. Your QB also should not be OVEr worried about throwing an int or taking a sack. Both of those are what our coaches call "negative plays". Well uh, no shi... of course it is a negative play, but if the QB does not have time then what the hell else can he do?

Like I said, dispute it if you like. but Henne would be on the verge of a pro bowl id he played with the New england system and team.

I think you are putting the cart before the horse with your argument. A O-line makes a QB and RB in most cases. It is by far not the other way around. I agree that the RB and QB get all the credit because those are the flashy positions. But it is the O-line that makes these guys succeed or fail.

Henne made some great throws lst year when he had time to let them develop. and made great throws in small windows.

the only game off the top of my head is the Green Bay game because i watched that most recently. Green Bay's D was hurt, and hurt real bad. and that made our average struggling o-line look like pro-bowlers. Henne played fantastic, and made great throws, and two beautiful deep throws, one that Marshall screwed up by not getting his feet in bounds.

Look, watch the game it is FACTS, not opinion. he made one poor decision that was a INT. My point, A good o-line would play like that against most teams, even healthy ones. The pack blitzed the hell out of Henne, and he made the correct decisions. the line held up and he had a great game.

Like I said, watch the game. Good line play and he played like a pro-bowler.

I think the X factor for success lies with Coach TS.
What will Coach TS do with the new groceries?
Does Coach TS have Executive Chef skills or is he in reality just a short order cook?

I think that for 2011 we will probably be fighting Buffalo for third place in the AFC EAST.
Hope like he!! that I am wrong.
However, with a solid draft in 2012, the Dolphins should return to relevancy.
It will probably come down to coaching.
Our coaches need to be put under the microscope just like the players.
Top notch leadership is critical to becoming a perennial playoff contender.

Poizen, I'd like to comment to your post @ 10am.

You said: Good line play and he played like a pro-bowler.

I agree with that but, I'd like to point out, a good QB plays well in spite of bad line play.

Good QB's sense the blitz, feel the pressure. At times last year, Henne looked clueless. In the 2nd Jets game, you could see live on TV that someone was coming unblocked. Henne didn't have a clue, got hit & fumbled. Even the announcer, Fouts maybe, said Henne HAS to see that coming.

You can't teach awareness. I think the QB needs to play well when things are going good & when the chips are down. To me, Henne is a PT QB. I am all for 1 more year in a new offense to see what he can do but I'm not sure my opinion will change much.

Hey Odin - I emailed Florio last night with the playbook debacle. Check PFT - it's out there now - maybe the Fins won't ignore it.

Mando - pretty much spot on. They got what they needed and can fill in/upgrade in FA (if it occurs). I am not wowed by the draft but am satisfied (Thomas will have to prove himself to be better than Ronnie and Ricky though). Clay is interesting to me and Gates is a steal in the fourth having been rated to go in the 2nd or 3rd.

Thats right its all up to Sparano to see how well his staff coaches and develops the talent he has. Look at Green Bay last year, they were down to 4th string players in some positions, but because they drafted well and developed those players they were able to step in and produce as starters. Its obvious we need one more years draft to finally have a quality roster including backups. Dolphins can make the playoffs this year if they don't have injuries and get all the right bounces. They need to trade away some players and pickup more draft picks for 2012. Work with what you got and build for 2012. Don't waste money on overpriced free agents.

Daniel Thomas = Sammie Smith v2.0

The only major difference was that Sammie was faster and more accomplished coming out of FSU. When a big back fumbles a lot and tends to go down on the first hit, he's basically useless when you get into the redzone.

Now Joe, that does make sense. But here is why I am not willing to give up on Henne. that was in the later part of the season where the wheel were falling off, if not already off.

Here is my point, and the ONLY reason I believe Henne may be good. The guy did exactly what his idiot o-coord told him to do. Go through the entire progession, then throw to the A reciever. I remember the play, and there was by the way a missed assignment on the blitz... LOL. Anyway, he was in the middle of going through a deep route progression, and did not play natural. We did not have the problem with Henne two years ago.

Henne took some chances, but every time he made a poor decision coaching just let him have it. I have never seen a guy get lit up like a second grader by his head coach on a bad decision coming off the field.

I really think by the second half of the year last year, he just became a o-coord puppet. And literally stopped playing with his own clock and natural ability.

In college, Henne did not have a problem with this. That is my opinion, Henne looked confused and beaten up at the end of the season. And I believe that to be the stress of over coaching and getting his butt kicked on the field.

That IS Henne's big weakness in my opinion. He needs to be stronger, and needs to question authority and not just go with it. Not sure if that can change. what I do know is success breeds confidence, and having time in the pocket breeds success for him. So I am not willing to call him even close to a bust yet. But this will be his final year to show it, if he gets a fair shot. Even if he doesnt, his chapter will end as a dolphin. I just hope he gets this shot.

"I have never seen a guy get lit up like a second grader by his head coach on a bad decision coming off the field."

Posted by: Poizen

Then you never saw Parcells or Ditka on the sidelines. Let's face it, since we weren't in the meetings and don't have access to the plays, we don't know why they were yelling at him. BUT it is clear to me that you don't yell at a guy for doing EXACTLY what they told him to do. Henne was panicking in the pocket, falling to the ground with nobody around him, staring down receivers and strug-uh-ling with accuracy.


Henne's days of being brought along slow and overcoached are over, he's going to be given free reign on where to deliver the football, calling audibles, and will have to read defenses on his own, its his team now to lead. Its up to him to show what he has learned the last three years and make the jump to a starting NFL level QB, or else his career is over. He is a free agent next year so if he wants any sort of a payday he has to produce results, otherwise he will be a career 3rd string QB at best.

Joe Schmoe@10:21 good analysis. I cannot for the life of me, understand the tunnel vision of some fans. Fans that are halfway knowledgeable about the game.

My view is this team has been like a perfect storm. You know, where several bad things come together to make one big bad thing. Personnel evaluation/acquisition, coaching and philosophy.

The trouble last year were the O-line and QB. A good QB can hurt the D and give the line some help. A great O-line can give the QB an extra second or so. Some of this was the idiot Henning's doing but a QB has to think on his feet and make something out of nothing sometimes. Henne just isn't capable of doing that.

Not drafting Mallet because he needs time to sit is a poor excuse. The Dolphins could have looked to free agency for Vince Young or Kyle Orton while Mallet could be groomed for the the next few years.

Ireland and Sparano has hitched their little red waggons to Henne. Which tells me that they dont no jack about quarterbacks.

Not drafting Mallet because he needs time to sit is a poor excuse. The Dolphins could have looked to free agency for Vince Young or Kyle Orton while Mallet could be groomed for the the next few years.

Posted by: pujo99 | May 03, 2011 at 10:47 AM

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. I said it almost to the TEE yesterday. They are bringing in a VET QB regardless if they took Mallet or not. At least having a young QB to groom would have filled another need. They could have gotten their RB's in FA which they will STILL do anyway. We blew a chance, plain & simple.

Win now mode wouldn't have been sacrificed since they would still have a VET QB, Henne & Thigpen. I laughed when Miami traded up in the 2nd and took Thomas. No offense to him, but Mallet's talents would have been good value in the 2nd round & the presumed starter would have been the exact same whether they drafted him or not.

I think that for 2011 we will probably be fighting Buffalo for third place in the AFC EAST.
Hope like he!! that I am wrong.
However, with a solid draft in 2012, the Dolphins should return to relevancy.
It will probably come down to coaching.
Our coaches need to be put under the microscope just like the players.
Top notch leadership is critical to becoming a perennial playoff contender.

Posted by: $0.02 | May 03, 2011 at 10:20 AM

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a realistic posting by a realist in a realistic article... how refreshing!? i don't particularly like drafting an interior OL at #15 unless he is elite... we took him because we believed he was the best available and not necessarily elite... isn't that what we thought about Ronnie Brown? Replacing Brown/Williams' 4.3 speed with a 4.55 that has not played a down of NFL football does not spell progress to me but on a positive note... you never know. Also, Ireland claims there were no takers on trading down yet Jay Glazer has an article on Fox Sports claiming Atlanta was desperately attempting to trade up to the middle of the first (can't get much more middle than #15)... feeling good about Pouncey because he is a better pick than Ginn/Avery/Bosa/Kumerow only means to me that you have lowered the bar to a standard that is competitive only for the first pick in the draft the following year... which i don't mind but, if there is no season then Miami will be picking #15 again next year and that will not get you Andrew Luck... assuming that is what you are indeed planning for... which is what it seems like to me...

Daniel Thomas = Sammie Smith v2.0

Posted by: GetAGrip | May 03, 2011 at 10:29 AM

I happen to think he is a JJ Johnson clone.

a realistic posting by a realist in a realistic article... how refreshing!?

Posted by: 037Cane | May 03, 2011 at 10:57 AM

Realism on this board is always perceived as negativity. Because God forbid people think unlike the fan boys of the regime. On here, that's blasphemy!

What was the excuse for not drafting Mallet again? Off field issues, right? But drafting a guy that was acquitted of murder doesn't bother these guys? Anybody else confused?

037Cane, to their defense, that guy was a 7th rounder, not a 1st or 2nd. Very little risk with some reward potential.

Mallet in the 2nd would have been high risk, high reward. What's that old saying?

No guts, no glory!

Joe Schmoe@10:21 good analysis. I cannot for the life of me, understand the tunnel vision of some fans. Fans that are halfway knowledgeable about the game.

LOL, Now I'm hald knowledgeable, you know nothing about me cocoa, so you may want to BACK OFF a lot.

It is not tunnel vision if someone does not agree with you, if it a different opinion on the cause and effect. Stay on your high horse... you definitly belong there...

I don't know what some of you guys have been smoking!
According to Scout's rankings, Pouncey was ranked as the 19th best overall player in the draft, #1 player available at center, and graded out at 92! The Dolphins clocked Daniel Thomas at 4.55 in the forty, faster than his 4.6 at the combine. (Still we gave up a lot to get him). Clay doesn't replace Fasano or Polite, he augments them as an H-back/pass catching TE. Gates can be taught how to run routes better (he came from a tiny college), but 4.3 speed (or better) can't be taught. Kearse is a project and figures to be the back-up at NT. And, Jimmy Wilson will push for a FS or nickel back spot. He's a hitter!

It is not tunnel vision if someone does not agree with you, if it a different opinion on the cause and effect. Stay on your high horse... you definitly belong there...

Posted by: Poizen | May 03, 2011 at 11:11 AM

That's life on this blog. To those that agree with us we know everything & know nothing to those who disagree.

Hell, I got called a moron earlier by someone who subtracted 25 from 15 & came up with 7! Take comments for what their worth!

LOL Joe.. Yes i did LOL. 25-15=7 interesting.

My problem with this draft is not the picks themselves. My problem is with Sparano's run first philosophy. That just doesn't work anymore. Hell it hasn't worked for years. So they have this run first mentality and have to make picks to honor that philosophy. And in the end that's what I don't like.

This team is boring and ineffective offensively, and will continue to be that way until they change their offensive philosophy. Just remember the monday night game against the Colts. That game alone proves they need switch up on offense. Control the clock for 3 quarters and we still lose...

Personally I don't expect the Dolphins to do much this year. Probably another 7-9 year. Hopefully it will be enough to get Sparano fired and they can get someone in here who can build an offense that can win today.

If you want to know how well the Dolphins are drafting consider this:

How many players did they draft in 4 years(can't assess this year, I know)that actually made the team? ans. 4.5 players per draft

How many players from the previous 4 years (Wanstedt, Cam, Saban)actually made the team?
ans. 1.3 players per draft

Even without Bess, Carpenter and Marshall these stats tell it all.

037Cane, to their defense, that guy was a 7th rounder, not a 1st or 2nd. Very little risk with some reward potential.

Mallet in the 2nd would have been high risk, high reward. What's that old saying?

No guts, no glory!

Posted by: Joe Schmoe | May 03, 2011 at 11:09 AM

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but the reasoning is the same... Mallet is first round talent that only fell because of his 'off field' issues which did NOT include murdering someone... and then you feel that he is good enough to be drafted by a team with an MVP qb but not the Dolphins with the league's 26th rated qb? honestly, i'm tired of thinking and talking about Mallet but don't tell me there is any reason to have a WHOLE lot of faith in this regime... four wins out of these guys next year is an optimistic outlook...

Tracy474, 4.55 is Ronnie Brown/Ricky Williams speed, maybe slower. How exactly is that the speed upgrade we were promised all off-season?

Thomas can be a good addition, and I certainly hope so, but his running style & fumble problems are scary. Think Eddie George. I hope DeAngelo Williams is the PRIMARY target in FA. He IS what this team needs & have been hoping for months he is pursued HEAVILY!!

The only draft pick I'm really excited about is Clay. If he is as described, I think he can add a dimension.

Gates is not polished from what I read & his immediate impact would likely be on ST, which is fine for now. Considering the kickoffs got moved back to the 30, I'm not sure what impact he will bring to the KO return game. Maybe PR if they finally take it away from Bess.

Eventually he has to become a legit every down WR who can open things open. Not for just a few plays a game like he'll likely be asked to do early on.

It is funny, We did have a run first offense, yet seemed to throw the ball over 60% of the time anyway. that is truly proof the O was flawed big time. I really do not think Run 1st is a bad offense to have at all. You jest need a D that can make stops. Again, you do need a fully functional O-line also.

I am worried about the running back we drafted, does anyone have a reason to "feel really good" about this guy? My fear is the funbeling, and his speed was not stellar to say the least. What am i missing on him?

I meant KO's brought back to the 35.

037Cane, I agree with you. I wanted Mallet, and in the 2nd especially, he presented allot of value for his talent. For the record, I have little faith in this regime.

Dj, I said it as the season progressed last year, changing O coordinator isn't enough. The coordinators just run a system the coach wants his team to play. Unless you get rid of the coach, the head of the snake if you will, nothing will change.

Let's wait & see what product we see on the field to judge for certain, but I am not anything other than more of the same.

Pouncey = Excellent blocker, average center. I still have doubts on his center playing ability, and I AM a Gator. Guard would be optimal.
Thomas = seems like Ronnie Brown part 2. I don't get why Armando is claiming a boost in speed here, when his time was as slow as Ingram. I still think Murray will make a better pro, time will tell.
Gates = Best pick at that spot. No issues with this one.
Clay = still wondering what this pick was for. Crash Jensen? Not a bad guy to have on your team, just seemed to be the wrong need to fill. If FA pans out for a QB, then this pick flips in my mind to be okey doke.
Kearse & Wilson = why not. 7ers are always a shrug and a prayer.
** It's this simple for me: If FA pans out with a QB upgrade like Palmer, then this draft looks solid- only questionmark at RB. On the other hand if we do something dumb like bring in Young, or Tavaris Jackson, or nothing at all, then we screwed the pooch. If Thomas outplays Murray this year then I'll concede that Ireland has what it takes to be tops at his job. In any case, we absolutely need to bring in a young draftee, or barely in the league QB within 2 years for whatever veteran we hire as our new QB to show him the ropes. We do that, then I wave the banner, and wear the colors proudly. Otherwise I remain a disappointed fan of growing impatience.

I am worried about the running back we drafted, does anyone have a reason to "feel really good" about this guy? My fear is the funbeling, and his speed was not stellar to say the least. What am i missing on him?

Posted by: Poizen | May 03, 2011 at 11:28 AM

Upright runners don't really last long, that's my concern. They take a beating & that's probably a big reason for his high fumble count.

If he doesn't learn to lower his pads and get under guys trying to tackle him, he is going to get beat up. I am afraid to see him running straight up into guys like David Harris, Ray Lewis, Mayo etc. They'll rip him into pieces.

Armando, this really IS a question for you if you'd be so kind to answer. What value, really, does Ronnie Brown have in the FA market? The guy may have had talent at one point, but he's never been elite, and he's definitely been busted up. An average NFL RB (statistically), over his prime with injuries .. doesn't sound like a big pay day. I assumed he was leaving (pretty sure that Ricky is), but now that I really think about it, he seems destined for back-up rolls wherever he signs. And signs for way less than he was making just recently. Am I way off here? I'm starting to wonder if he doesn't find the pasture greener here, and compete with Thomas? Or are the winds blowing that the Fins don't even want him? What's the reality?

I agree with that Joe, in a big way. I am concerned tat he is being looked at as a possibel replacement of what we lost. Say what you will about ronnie, he knew how to run the ball and still does. This guy, and I can only talk about what i see from tapes, scares the hell out of me. I chuckled @ the Sammie Smith reference earlier, but that does seem to be a good running comparison... ugh.

Poizen... his stats simply tell a different story... astounding... a touchdown machine in college... not sure how he will translate to pros but if it does then he is a hit... but i'm not warm and fuzzy on him either... not for trading away so much to get him anyway... doesn't sound right to me to make that trade for this guy but not you know who...

Posted by: JS in LA | May 03, 2011 at 11:41 AM

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Belicheat LOVES Ronnie... once claimed they had to game plan specifically for Ronnie... just saying...

037, when the trade was announced, didn't you think it was for Mallet?

Ha... yea,it seems we drafted off of #'s, and strictly #'s. Hopefully there is more to him than what we are seeing, I would hate to miss on this pick. I am not a running back guy as far as knowledge as much, so i was hoping what I waw maybe was tainted a bit. Doesn't sound like it though. Isn't Cecil Collins getting out of prison in July? Oh, forget it, his mother was a ho... moving on.

Kiper raved about Merling as a first round talent that the Dolphins got late... we all know where that ended.

037Cane, I live out here in MA, and the buzz is ronnie. And I mean a big buzz, we really need to sign him back. He is not as explosive as a rookie, but the guy plays hard, and knows how to run the ball. the sad part is, NE loves both Ronnie and Ricky. I am going to be sick if they are in Pats uniforms... But it really looks like they are going after both in hopes of landing one...

The funny thing is they did draft 2 RB's. Weird picks also. So I am hoping the buzz is merley a smoke screen...

LOL Merling! Another stellar draft choice.

Ronnie & Ricky should go to NE to run the wildcat & throw TD's to Hernandez & Gronkowski. That would be fun to watch LOL



Thanks 037cane. Belly can have him, but I would doubt the Patriots would fork over da money Ronnie may imagine. AND he would be playing second fiddle to the higher money maker in Vereen, not to mention the veterans that already know Belly's system. Doesn't seem likely. Unless Ronnie is desperate for a ring despite sitting on the bench, I would doubt a move to NE. But who knows. I certainly don't.

Posted by: Joe Schmoe | May 03, 2011 at 11:45 AM

i stopped tuning in after the Pouncy pick... didn't watch it live but checked into it later that night... i have a new born in the home that factored into that as well... i apolgize to my fellow fans for that lack of respect...

"Kiper raved about Merling as a first round talent that the Dolphins got late... we all know where that ended."

Posted by: Jeff

Merling has has injury and off-field problems. Hardly means he wasn't a first-round talent.


If Mel had said, "Never in a million years will Merling shred his achilles or scuffle with his girlfriend.", then you've have room to argue.

Obama's fixed the economy plenty since he took over. For example, look at where the stock market was when he took over compared to now. The Dow was at about 9,000 now it's flirting with about 12,800. Over 25% growth!!

Posted by: JS in LA | May 03, 2011 at 11:58 AM

maybe you are new to the history of Dolphins rb's going to NE then? they tend to have their biggest games versus the Dolphins... i don't think the furhter help sweeping us, do they?





After the draft, which I am slowly coming around to as not that bad, I wanted Mallet or Gabbert when he dropped to 10 but hey, I'm a fins fan for life at the end of the day.
I have now 2 main concerns now,
No1 The FO will trade away our 2012 1st rounder for Carson Palmer or Kevin Kolb, our 2012 1st round pick has to be Andrew Luck no matter what the QB situation this year turns out to be, you just don't pass on talent like that.
No2 Sparano signed off on all Hennings playcalls last year, just how much more different can this offense be with him at HC, he still wants run first, which means close games, not the same all out attack offense we and Ross want which makes me believe he will be gone by the bye week.

Obama fixed the stock market all right, That is why are freakin gas prices are 4.00+ per gallon. Thanx Obama for that. But other than that what has he done. DO YOU LIKE TO BE FINED FOR NOT HAVING SOMETHING, DO YOU LIKE THE HOUSING MARKET AND CANT GET ANY KIND OF LOAN FROM ANY BANK, EMPLOYMENT IS STILL AT AN ALL TIME LOW, FOOD AND RETAIL IS TOTALLY OUTRAGOUS, DO I NEED TO GO ON. So no Obama has done nothing to help you or me just him self and the selfish govt officials.

Posted by: GetAGrip | May 03, 2011 at 12:07 PM

would you like to talk about unemployment? how bout the price of petro? what were those numbers when he took office? how bout inflation... or the housing market... we're very happy that you as a liberal have all of the sudden convalsced your feelings about the rich getting richer... but why don't you go talk politics on a political blog? i hear Limbaugh has a good one...

It was the policies of a Democrat-controlled Congress that that led to the housing market crash and all the collateral damage.

Cane, I have no wish for Ronnie to go anywhere, since his veteran knowledge of the offense and decent play would be a benefit to us. If Thomas is who they say he is, then he'll beat out Ronnie. I just don't see a good scenario for Ronnie starting for a club, unless they are a desperate loser, and if he wishes to kick us to the curb, then whatevers dude. Belly doesn't need Ronnie to beat us. With our current rosters, Belly could use any scrub on his payroll at RB and still beat us. We have some big strides to make before we're on the level the Pats are, sorry to say. But I'm hopeful, just not currently expectant.

and the economy that you claim took Bush 8 years to destroy actually did not even sniff a decline until the democraps took over Congress in 2006

Posted by: JS in LA | May 03, 2011 at 12:28 PM

couldn't agree with you more that he would NEED Ronnie to beat us... but he seems to revel in his ability to take our players and have them excel while at the same time destroying us on the field... kind of a psycological warfare so to speak... beat your opponent and demoralize them while you are doing it! a strategy i prefer mind you...

correction - he would NOT NEED Ronnie to beat us... but

I grade the draft D. Not a failure, but below expectations. in other words, disappointing.

Hey what's up fellas?

I agree with Armando that its assinine to grade a draft when guys never stepped on the field yet. It's also not fair to judge a draft after year 1 as a whole. Remember the Pats drafted Brady in the 6th round. He wins a Super Bowl by year 2. I would say that draft was an Aplus!

I stated over and over I really liked Miami's draft. The biggest HOLE that Miami didn't fill was obviously QB. It's really hard to judge the draft even if it's premature because there was no Free Agency. If this CBA is EVER resolved and say hypothetically Miami finds a way to trade for Carson Palmer or Kolb then the draft fits perfectly in the grand scheme of things. If Miami brings in Bruce Gradkowski or Mark Bulger then we all we are in trouble.

I know some of you think Miami is going with Henne as the starter I really don't see it. Sparano lost all confidence in Henne last year and Henne got his job back by default. Sparano knows and WE all know if Sparano doesn't make the playoffs he and Jeff Ireland are both gone and if that's the case Sparano who is aorund 50 years old will never see another Head Coaching gig in the NFL. Ireland would be gone too. Do you really think Sparano and Ireland want to tie their professional lives that they have worked so hard for to just say "let's go with Chad Henne." There is no way!

we still havent seen our 1st rd pick last year ODRICK on the field yet either. THIS YEAR WILL BE NICE FOR MIAMI. PHINS AND HEAT CHAMPS!!!

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