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Marshall and Wake among the NFL's Top 100

If you're still paying attention to football these days -- and the assumption is you are because, well, you're on a football blog -- then you're probably aware of the fun exercise the NFL Network is undertaking in ranking the league's top 100 players.

The countdown started at No. 100 and is down to No. 61 so far with more installments on the way until we reach No. 1. I have the feeling Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady will find themselves vying for No. 1, and if they don't something is definitely wrong.

Dolphins players in that elite group?

Cameron Wake hit No. 63 in the released list of top 100.

"They asked me and when I voted, I didn't put myself in there," Wake said.

Riiiight.

Wake definitely deserves the recognition. But that which is most exciting about Wake is that while other pass-rushers such as Pittsburgh's LaMarr Woodley will already find themselves rated behind Wake, there is so much further Wake can go.

I see Wake becoming every bit as dominant as Woodley's running mate in Pittsburgh, James Harrison. Harrison isn't as big, isn't as quick or as explosive as Wake. He is much more refined in his technique, he's slightly stronger in the upper body and his work ethic is beyond reproach.

DeMarcus Ware also will be ranked among the league's top 39 players.

So Wake, with one great 14-sack season on his resume, can definitely improve. (I would tell you he'll be a lot better if Koa Misi or another Dolphins rusher offers a counter-balancing rush threat as Woodley does for Harrison.)

Interestingly, Wake rates ahead of Houston defensive end Mario Williams on this list. Williams, you'll recall, was the No. 1 overall pick in the 2006 draft. Think of the bargain the Dolphins got in adding Wake as an free agent out of the Canadian Football League.

Wake isn't the only Dolphins player on this list. Brandon Marshall is the NFL's 61st best player, according to the voting by his peers.

I have no problem with the ranking. Marshall, when he's right, when he's healthy, when he's feeling confident and engaged and enthusiastic, can be elite. Unfortunately, if you pay attention to the video of Marshall on the NFL Network site, most of his highlights come when he's in a Denver uniform.

Now, I recognize Marshall played most of his career in Denver and only one season in Miami. But the point I'm making is I still haven't seen in Miami the WR that Marshall was in Denver. Just look at his running ability in the Broncos uniform. Watch Marshall's ability to cut once he has the ball to make the defense miss. I didn't see that in Miami last year.

I saw Marshall break tackles on sheer strength and power. But I didn't see that kind of quickness. Not even close.

Marshall was working toward getting back that kind of quickness this offseason when he was stabbed by his wife in a domestic violence incident that is still unsettled. And although Marshall is expected to recover from the incident with his wife, he has not yet returned to working out fulltime.

NFL.com senior columnist Vic Carucci writes that Marshall deserves to be higher on the list of the Top 100 if one accounts for talent alone. But talent is not the only thing that decides a player's success in the NFL. So Carucci points out that Marshall is ranked where he is based on the fact other players didn't trust his him off the field.

Carucci goes on to outline the off-field issues Marshall has had and makes the point that if one is not on the field or free of off-field worries, it is tougher to reach one's potential. That, the columnist hypothesizes, is the reason a talent of Marshall's scope is pushed down the list of the top 100.

I would tell you the Dolphins have two more players with significant hope of being in the Top 100 -- ILB Karlos Dansby and LT Jake Long.

Dansby might or might not make it. Long is a certainty.

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Armando,

Where do you rank Carson Palmer on this list?

ROTFLMAO!

Both are very sassy players!


Most of you poser wouldn't be happy unless Henne came out and replied:

Yeah it was all me. I suck the big one. I stunk up every game. My line was more than adequate and golly gee Hennings is a legend, so yeah, I suck!

My running backs were lights out and my tight end was ALWAYS open down field. I dunno what it is, but I really struggled with using my fullback in the two minute offense, so yeah I don't even deserve a third year, I suck!

odinseye | May 23, 2011 at 01:50 PM

Odin,

I would accept this admission from the Henne puke as to what actually transpired last season. After the omission he can bend over and take 20 like a man!!!!!!


Palmer is behind Henne on the list.......lol

Henne threw the ball to Marshall last year?... damn.. cant even remember that....

Is there a similar list for NFL coaches?

Who cares? Are they playing football yet?

Is there a similar list for NFL coaches?

Posted by: $0.02 | May 23, 2011 at 02:33 PM

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If so where do you guys have Coach TS?

I think Marshal should have his wife stab Henne. I recall a lot of those passes that could have been potential highlight reels being either overthrown or to the wrong side. It's kinda hard to make a play if the ball isn't where it's supposed to be. Henne needs to work on his accuracy because right now he is shite.

I think wake should've been higher,along with tamba hali,he led the league in sacks this year,and I he will be a free agent,I know chiefs aren't gonna let him go but say if they do, (they did draft that olb in the draft) then we should go after him, him and wake will be probably the best pass rushing duo in the nfl
btw dolphins only have one more player on the top 100
which we're sure its big jake
and aaron rogers is number 11 on the top 100

Why isnt Jake Long on this 100 list. I dont see a better LT in the AFC. Dansby was a force last yr. Remember what happened to the defense when Dansby was injured near the end of the season? If we can sign Carson Palmer, the fish will be instent contenders to the AFC east crown

No Dan Carpenter on that list? Sparano is going to be very upset.

At least Pat White made the list

Guys they've only announced 61 through 100, they still have 1 through 60 to announce so Dansby and long may yet be announced, please learn to read.

Coaches from 2010:

#32 - Marvin Lewis

#31 - Tom Cable

#30 - Tony Sparano

#29 - Eric Mangini

More bad news. Henne says "I'm not going to change the way I play".

Henne threw way too much into double and triple coverage thinking he was Marino....What a joke..and ODINEYE sorry for the rude comment i made too you the other week I was in a bad mood that day I forgot we are all on the same team.

Has Mark "Hot-dog" Sanchez made the list??

Rumor has it Rex Ryan's stomach broke top 50, at #48.

THE LATEST NEWS ON THE STRIKE AND THE BEST ARTICLE I`VE READ ON TH SUBJECT YET!!!


More misplaced rhetoric from De Smith
Posted by Mike Florio on May 18, 2011, 8:55 AM EDT

Getty ImagesNow that the mediation process has ended once again, a day after the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit dropped a strong hint that the ruling lifting the lockout will be overturned next month, NFLPA* executive director DeMaurice Smith has opted to take to the airwaves, not with words suggesting a willingness to compromise and negotiate, but with more rhetoric aimed at inflaming the fans (it probably won’t work) or holding the players together as a strong possibility of missed game checks approaches (it possibly will work, but perhaps not for long). His initial comments during a Tuesday night visit with Maurice Jones-Drew and Bryan McGovern of Sirius NFL Radio’s Late Hits amounted a reiteration of the point that Smith made on Monday.

A point that we still can’t understand.

“First league in the history of sports that has ever sued to not play their game,” Smith said. “When we reach a time or a moment in history when a professional sports league is suing to not play football, we’re in a bad spot.”

Actually, the more accurate statement could be that when we reach a time or a moment in history when the chief of a professional sports union is so badly bastardizing the facts, we’re in a bad spot.

“What do you think as a fan when you learn that the league that you write a check to, the teams that you’ve done nothing but cheer for for years are now suing to not play the game that we all love?” Smith later said, once again pushing the premise that the league has “sued” to implement the lockout. It’s simply not true; the league isn’t suing anyone, yet. The league is reacting to the lawsuit filed by the players when faced with the likelihood of a lockout.

Anyone who gets it understands what’s happening. The players sued to lift the lockout because any deal negotiated while the players are playing and getting paid to play will be better for the players. The owners have resisted the effort to lift the lockout because any deal negotiated while the players aren’t playing and aren’t getting paid to play will be better for the league. Defending against the players’ lawsuit, however, does not and never will amount to “suing” to not play the game.

The fact that Smith would imperil his credibility so openly and so brazenly demonstrates, in our view, the desperation he’s currently feeling. Once the Eighth Circuit decides to allow the lockout to remain in place, the question becomes when, not if, the players will demand that a deal be finalized so that they can continue to play football. Perhaps Smith thinks that, if he can get the players sufficiently pissed at the owners based on embellished and/or false allegations, they’ll suck it up and go without weeks if not months of game checks.

“We’re hoping that the court lifts the lockout,” Smith added, “but to me this is a low point in sports when a league that is extremely profitable, at the height of revenue generation with a loyal following of fans for the last 60 years has made a decision that it is much better to force the players into a lockout because you know that it is designed to get them to take a deal that you otherwise couldn’t negotiate.”

But that’s why employers lock union employees out. And that’s why union employees strike, as the NFL’s players did in 1982 and 1987. Withholding services and/or preventing folks from working applies leverage. The fact that, in this specific case, the notion of freezing the players out could be very effective doesn’t make it legally or morally wrong. The players may not like it, and the fans may not like it. Still, it’s no different from going on strike, and the players have never opted to refrain from striking out in deference to “the game” or its fans.

Eventually, the interview focused on what we believe to be the heart of the current dispute — whether the players will continue to get 50 cents of every dollar that passes through the cash register, even as those dollars exceed $10 billion per year and eventually approach $20 billion per year, and more. Smith speaks as if the continuation of the 50-percent share has become a birthright for the players. At some point, however, it becomes a fair business consideration for the owners to assess whether the players should continue to get half of an exponentially growing pie, especially in light of the players’ viable alternatives.

Indeed, Smith explained that he called the league’s March 11 offer the “worst deal in the history of sports” because it would have cut the players’ share from 50 percent to something less than 50 percent. “It was an easy call to say that it was the worst deal in history because from the day that we would have taken their offer it would have forever severed the players of the National Football League from a fair share of the revenue that we all know that they generate,” Smith said.

Smith continues to overlook the fact that, even if the percentages shrink, the total dollars paid to the players will continue to grow. So why doesn’t Smith ever acknowledge that? Probably because he fears that more than a few players would respond by saying, “So we’re still going to make more money each year? OK, we’re fine with that.”

Though the NFL isn’t the NFL without the players, the deeper question at this point is whether the NFL players are truly responsible for one half of the revenue of an ever-growing sport. The league has created, over a period of decades, the industry that is the NFL, with the teams and the logos and the colors and the TV contracts and the stadiums and everything else that allows the players to perform at the absolute highest level of the game. The fact that so many rookies wanted to bask in the glow of being drafted despite also being locked out confirms that the NFL has become, over time, a big deal. Though the NFL became a big deal in very large part because of the players, the teams and the league have worked together over an extended period of time to build the game into what it now is.

Is it “fair,” then, for the players to continue to insist on half of every dollar earned? Or is it “fair” to focus on total dollars to be paid, and to negotiate a “fair” amount based on that premise? In resolving those questions, the players and the NFLPA* must remember that precious few industries include a work force that dictates the amount of the gross revenue it will receive.

Again, we’re not taking sides. We believe that both the owners and the players need to be reasonable and fair, and to strike a deal that will restore long-term labor peace, a concept that has now faded deep into the rear-view mirror. Smith’s strategy of using tough talk based on exaggerated (at best) facts is, we fear, keeping that from happening. Given his background as a litigator and the strong emphasis that the NFLPA* has placed on pursuing leverage through the legal system, his words seem to be more focused on keeping his clients from getting weak-kneed as the prospect of a full season without football income approaches.

We welcome him to prove us wrong by ditching the rhetoric and finding a way to engage in meaningful negotiations aimed at a fair compromise for the owners and the players.

When does the Henne hatred get old?

If any of you truly believe it is all on henne last year, you have no clue how football works... no clue.

Look here you commie-pinko's.....

I'll decide what is funny and and what is not (when it comes to what I read)

NOT YOU....OR ANYBODY ELSE!!!!

Save your Cyber-peer pressure for somebody who gives in to that kinda crap....

If you say somethin funny (ODIN)....I give you props.....wether it is pro or not-so-pro Miami Dolphins.....and YES.....YOU got plenty of that stuff thats NOT SO....pro Miami Dolphins.....

So all this blog cronyism can cease......cause it doesn't affect me in the least.....

I don't dance if the ain't no music.....and I don't laugh if they joke ain't funny....

However I will laugh and dance....where and when I chose too.....and at whomever I chose to.....

YOU don't decide what or who makes a good fan......

You sir....are not the standard of Miami Dolphin Fan-dom.....

Now i'll read the article......

Go FINS....football talk.....

This top 100 list of best players put together by NFL Network is curious to say the least. It`s got players like Greg Jennings and Lamar Woodley all the way at the bottom ? If you flipped Woodley to WLB he`d put up around 15 to 17 sacks a year!!! The guy puts up double digits in sacks from the Strong side. Then Jennings at 78!! Really, who were the players polled that put up this list ?

In 4 seasons Greg Jennings has caught nearly 400 passes while having the best yak in the league and I don`t even wanna get started on "The Beast" at 61 rediculous!!! No!! he didn`t put up the season we all expected but put that on Hennings pre-historic Offense, Henne`s fear to throw it up and the fact he played all of last season with a bad hip, expect him to fly out of the gates when ever football is back on. I think he is one of the 20 best playing today or hasn`t anybody seen what he can do on a different Offense?

fin4life, good article. Slightly biased (favoring owners) for my liking, but pretty much the issue. What we have here is an Israel (Owners) vs. Palestine (players) standoff, with neither side willing to discuss the DIRECT issue at hand (money, and how to split it). Both sides should STFU and sit across each other around a table and get to brass tax and work this thing out.

Also, Poizen, I'm TOTALLY in your corner there, I'm getting sick of the Henne bashing too. Look, 2010 is over, we're in 2011. Henne is still Henne, but NOBODY knows what he'll amount to this year. He might be the next Drew Brees for all we know (though I don't think he'll be that). Point is, Henne is our QB right now, and I'm guessing there's a 95% chance he's the QB during the season. So hate on him all you want, I'll wait until he actually does something to DESERVE my derision (because right now, he's done nothing in 2011 for me to hate on).

Armando....I liked the article....but I hate seeing that word VALUE....in hindsight...YES it is appropriate......but I still cringe when I read it in reference to the Miami Dolphins.

I would like to have seen Marshall ranked Higher....but its hard to argue with his position.....his 1,000 plus yards were easily among the most non-memorable i have seen in recent history....no TD's make things easy to forget.....

I think way should be ranked higher....maybe top 30.......Wake was a beast....he was only stopped when he got ZERO D-Line support......

Wasn't he 1st or 2nd in sacks.......

Next year he will get all the holding calls he didn't get this year......a holding call is almost as good as a sack.....the only draw back is that the "O" gets to re-play the down.....

Wake.....top 30 in my book.....

Let me guess when this list tops out it will be Brady at 1 and Manning at 2, boring!!!! As a matter of fact I would put Aaron Rodgers at the top of my list. He`s only 28 and you figure he hasn`t played in his last SB. Manning and Brady will both be 35 when this season gets going and how much do they have left. It seems to be the age that all the greats have started to breakdown Marino, Elway, Kelly, Montana, Aikmen, Favre ect......

Fin4life.....2nd the Rodgers pick for #1......

He was amazing this year.....PERIOD!!!!!

DC @4:55,

The article is deffinetly a biased report by Florio but it brings up good points none the less about DeMaurice Smith and his tactics which I have felt have been nothing but a mud slinging attempt at drawing this out from day one. I haven`t gotten a chance to see the projections for the numbers discussed in that article but if they`re true and the league is looking to grow economically by the staggering amounts he`s talking about from 9 Billion to 20 then the players are being misinformed by there Union and the fat check they have to cut Smith. I am not taking sides and was always upset at Gene Upshaw and the labor disputes of the 80`s but I always respected him and understood he was working in the best interests of the Players, this DeMaurice Smith reeks of snake oil salesman to me. I don`t like him and if I were a player I wouldn`t trust that guy.

Kris,

Rodgers wasn`t good at the end of last season but Intergallactic, that beatdown he puts on a very good Atlanta team was the writing on the wall. I new nobody was going to get in there way and it`s a young team solid nucleus so they will be relevant for a while, I`m jealous as hell!!!

DC @ 4:55 PM......we still have this thing called the 1st amendment....FREEDOM OF SPEECH....

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Those words used to really mean something and when somebody used to try and silence someone....THEY got the funny look....

In the post 9-11 world....its the other way around.....even to the point that I know have NBA players telling me whats acceptable to say....... and not say......WTF......thats what mommy and daddy are for....

ME? I like both sides of the story....then i'll decide which side i'll support.......

Those that want to bash Henne...state your case.....you have an audience.....

Those who support Henne......state your case......you have an audience as well......

Kris @4:55

Well said, Amen Brother!!

Kris @5:20

Excuse me I was refering to that little peace on our rights, again well said!!

Thanks Fin4life......

I really dont get it. Why is DC challenging freedom of speech? I dont get that at all...

What I think he was agreeing on, is kinda what I was saying. the Henne bashing, about 80% is stupid and can not be supported factually.

Blame Henne for Marshall only being in the 60's now. Just stupid. Marshall dropped a crap load of balls, and all of the O's problems were not Henne. The O-line? coaching? RB's? D not getting off the field?

It is getting old @ many levels that any topic brought up there are Henne bashing going on. It is really getting old and there ends up being the Henne debate all over again.

It is just getting really stale. If the liklyhood is he is our QB I would love to see more of a focus on how to make the team better around his skills. And now there will be a stupid comment that says he does not have any... Again just stupid.

Anyway, Kris I know you are not the person writing the useless bashing here, you try and support your posts, but latly very few others are.

BTW, the intellegent people who support their comments, you know who you are, so please think carefully before you respond. That was not directed at most of the normal post/debaters.

I spelled intelligent wrong... lol

Well, I guess Kris told me.

I think he told me.

Actually, I'm not sure if he did tell me.

He was throwing around all kinds of commie pinko's and cyber peer presasures. To be honest, I have no idea what he was going on about.

Oh well, I'm going back out on patrol for Henne Bashers!

cant wait to see satele ssnaap ball to Beck then throw to ginn,
good for defense to see porter helthy


ROTFLMAO!!!!

DC didn't challenge anyones Free Speech.

As long you practice Free Speech, practice some of it up into an apology for DC.

DC said: So hate on him all you want, I'll wait until he actually does something to DESERVE my derision (because right now, he's done nothing in 2011 for me to hate on).


Posted by: DC Dolfan | May 23, 2011 at 04:55 PM


freerot is bachup qb he is good to

Poizen,

If you ever read anything I`ve posted you would see that I have long been one of the few who has supported Henne. If you read you will notice that I lay a majority of the blame in that debate on D.Henning and T.Sparano who as the teams coach should have over-ridden alot of the play calling and especially in Dec. when we weren`t really going any place and it would have been nice to see him open it up and let Henne go much the same way Shula did with Marino early.

Now before somebody sends me a dumb post saying I`m comparing Henne and Marino let me explain. In 1983 when Marino got the call vs. Buffalo Shula understanding that the Season was going nowhere fast with Woodley at Q.B. aloud Marino to basically play back yard Football until he got a better hold of the playbook something Sparano might have been better served doing the last month of the Season with Henne while looking to build some momentum moving into this coming one.

I do however argue the point about his pass blocking while I accept that we were both suspect and mediocre at Run blocking the statement about pass blocking is grossly and constantly overstated on this blogg. He had a decent amount of time from his base blocking when he wasn`t recieving max protection. Name me one game were brick footed Henne took more than 4 sacks? You want to talk about the protection breaking down then I suggest you go talk with Payton Manning.

The reality is they never worked on his mechanics trying to correct the flaws. Doesn`t look off the Safety, Coachable. Doesn`t put enough air under his touch pass and can`t throw a fade again very coachable threw practice and repetition. The reality is David Lee and Dan Henning failed the kid and the team but Sparano seeing this didn`t do much to solve it either.If he had a better scheme and let it rip I think he will do better how much is what remains to be seen but it`s also not a very fair assesment to say he isn`t a big part of the problem as well. I have seen alot of Q.B.`s that have done more with less, look at Bradford in his rookie year and what he had to work with last year and you see the command on the field that has always lacked with Henne.

cam wake is my homie

heard gabril wilson got traded
dang
i like wilson

Sassy comments!

jason alan and mat roth will help agenst the run

Back to DeMaurice Smith!

He's a slack jawed dumb ass.

He picked and choose the WRONG battle!

Now, instead of coming clean, admitting his mistakes and regrouping, he's digging in his heels and trying to Grandstand!

He's in over his head and apparently his ego won't cut him any slack. Sickening!

Meanwhile the fans, the players, their families and the NFL in general will suffer.

My take on this money split problem is this. If the owners want a higher % of the gross that is fine with me as long as they start paying for thier own stadiums not push it off on the fans buy raising thier taxes. I feel that labor should never be paid 50% of the pie but that is because the employer has to pay for the building they are working in. Bottom line 40% to the players is fair but don't let the owners bully the city into making a tax to fix or build a stadium for them. Then and only then would I actually believe these Billionaires and Millionaires actually care about the fans.

my home dog lorenzoe booker will get a thosand yards this year

odin @6:24,

I agree totally it`s why I put the story up there is something very disingeniuos about the guy. I have had that gut feeling about him since the 1st interview I saw with him last season. I always hated the labor disputes but never thought Gene Upshaw a bad guy this one on the other hand makes me cringe while my blood boils!!!!!!!!!!!!

NFLBS,

I agree with all except the part about the Owners bullying the cities.

City officials, whether they admit it or not welcome any and all taxes due to the skim factor. This also enhances long term revenues.

Pat white starts this year merk my words

Joe,

Why does your twin brother Billy keep sticking his tongue in the light socket?

Cause your BOTH retarded!

Keep up those blog hits!

Fist Pump!!!!

odinseye

The owners do bully the cities around if the owners do not get thier new stadium or have it fixed the way they want it what do they do?
They tell the city that if they do not fix or make a new stadium that they will leave. Just ask the Cleveland fans about that!! If the owners have to fork out the money they would not make those kinds of threats.

Fin,

I've tried to stay neutral and listen to both sides in this.

The more I read and learn about DeMaurice Smith, his tactics and the positions he's taking, I HAVE to side with the Owners.

DeMaurice Smith is the fly in the ointment. He needs to GO!

odisneye protect assgard

Odinseye
Even though I am not a cowboy fan I do like the fact that thier owner built his own staduim with his own money. He did not tell Dallas to build it or he would leave.

odin,

Hear you on D.Smith

NFLBS,

The Tax payers in Dallas footed 1.3 Billion of the cost to build The New Texas stadium, J.Jones put up the initial 400 Million and had the rest of the 1.7 Billion dollar cost put up by the State.

NFLBS,

I'm not going to argue because obviously it has and does happen.

However, I think that the Cleveland situation and a very few others have been the exception to the rule.

I believe in most instances that the Cities welcomes the tax and the Owner subsidizes a percentage. A nice neat negotiated "win, win" for everyone.......well.....except for the tax payer of course!

Brandon Marshall in Denver, 6.5 catches per game at 12 yards a catch. Brandon Marshall in Miami, 6.5 catches per game at 12 yards a catch. What we saw last year is what he is.

Joe,

Consider it protected.

Don't get any cute ideas round here pretty bu-oy!

odinseye

Remember this too. Why does Cleveland and Indy have teams now?? because when threatened by the owners they refused to build a staduim so what did those owners do? They left. Not because no one was going to the games but because they did not get a new stadium. So the cities finally decided that they would build new stadiums and what did the owners do? They came back becuase they knew the fans base was thier all along but now the owner did not have to pay for the stadium.

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