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The truth about the DeAngelo Williams love affair

The recurring theme I hear when fans and some journalists speak of the Dolphins' running back options going forward is, sorry to tell you, often myopic at best. Basically, a lot of folks are just saying stuff without really knowing the facts.

For example, the group that blindly repeats the, 'Let's sign DeAngelo Williams,' theme obviously is not aware of the facts that could keep Williams from going anywhere in 2011. Those same folks say Williams has said he'd like to play here without knowing he's also said he'd like to return to Carolina.

And no one seems to recognize that even if Williams is a free agent, he'll have a handful of teams vying for his services.

So let's seriously consider this:

First, if the appeals court denies the NFL's request for a stay of a lower court's decision to end the lockout and the league must return to work under 2010 rules, as many believe will happen, then Williams simply will not be an unrestricted free agent at all.

Surprised?

If the NFL is forced to operate under 2010 guidelines, only players with six years of NFL experience will be considered unrestricted free agents. Williams has five years of NFL experience. He would be restricted. This is such a serious reality that Carolina on March 2nd placed a tender on Williams, assuring its rights to the running back.

It is such a serious reality that during the draft, once Carolina drafted Cam Newton, new Panthers coach Ron Rivera spoke passionately about how having Newton would benefit Williams in the backfield.

"If the defense crashes down on the line of scrimmage, [Newton] can bootleg outside and make something happen," Rivera told the Charlotte Observer. "If they honor that too much, then DeAngelo cuts back on the backside and breaks it for a 60-yard gain."

The Panthers tagged Williams with the highest tender, meaning any team wanting to sign him under 2010 guidelines would have to compensate the Panthers a first- and third-round draft pick. What does that mean? It means the Dolphins will not be getting DeAngelo Williams if he is restricted because I believe the Dolphins have come to dislike the idea of always being down one or several high draft picks each April while the New England Patriots are replete with their picks and some of everyone else's.

Of course, it is possible sanity prevails in this labor situation and the league and the non-union union work out an amicable collective bargaining agreement that makes Williams and all players with five years of experience free agents if they're unsigned.

Does that automatically clear the decks for the Dolphins?

Well, working for Miami is the fact Williams is represented by Jimmy Sexton, who also happens to represent coach Tony Sparano and general manager Jeff Ireland. I'm not suggesting that gives the Dolphins an advantage. I am suggesting if the Dolphins want to pay top market value, Sexton will be happy to bring a client to another client. It makes for a logical business dealing.

Also making Williams a possibility if he's a free agent, is the fact he has stated to several media outlets he'd like to play for Miami.

But guess what? Williams has stated to several other media outlets he'd like to stay in Carolina, too.

My guess is Williams wants to be wherever the payday is most lucrative and his opportunity for collecting stats and wins is greatest. That combination will trump everything, in my opinion, and he's not going to close any door until a decision is made.

One more thing regarding Williams: Folks seem to forget his former coach John Fox is now in Denver. Fox held Williams in high regard. The Broncos need help with their running game. The Detroit Lions were linked last year to liking Williams.

What I'm saying is their will be a market for arguably the best running back on the market.

So before we start picking out a number for this kid, remember he might be more valuable -- meaning $$$$ -- to someone else. And remember if the NFL lockout is ended by the courts and we're back to working under 2010 rules, Williams will not be playing in Miami because he will not be an unrestricted free agent.

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NO football now...and possibly not till 2012....

No basketball CBA after the championship series ends in june...

Baseballs CBA expires in DEC 2011......

You guys see a coincidence here....this is some HOME type sh*t......

economy crashing......and the BILLIONARES.........are taking THEIR BALL.....AND GOING HOME........

weird to say the least....brace yourself's..........

Posted by: kris | May 16, 2011 at 04:17 PM

Doesn't look good folks.......

Fin4Life......

Were not told what were not suppose to know......

Thats why they don't report it........

the big 3 in sports all on the verge of a strike....and if it is ever mentioned......if it is mentioned......its in a passing .......

your ont told what your suppose to know......

So Armando's admitting he's in love with DeAngelo?

Finally coming clean with the truth, eh?

To think, all this time and I thought JT was the target of your affections.

your not told what your not suppose to know....

More from PFT -

Dolphins employees taking a pay cut then the Dolphins hire Mark Brockelman as Senior Vice President/Chief Financial and Administrative Officer of the Miami Dolphins and Sun Life Stadium.

Hmm - I smell a rat.

Odin......

did you see Thor yet.....

If so how was it.......

might see it this weekend......

The NFL lockout will continue for few more weeks, and maybe longer.

The 8th Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday granted the NFL's motion for a stay by a 2-1 vote, allowing the league to keep the lockout in place until at least June 3. That's when the court will hear the NFL's appeal of a district court ruling to lift the lockout.

The appellate court said the league has proved it "likely will suffer some degree of irreparable harm without a stay."

The owners and players are fighting over how to divide the league's $9 billion in annual revenue, and the league wants the ability to lock out the players, in large part for leverage to force a deal.

NFL players demand damages NFL players de
In making the temporary stay more permanent, the 8th Circuit handed a significant victory to the owners at a time when they had incurred a string of legal losses to the players.

When a lockout is in effect, teams and players cannot have contact with each other, meaning clubs are unable to conduct minicamps or sign undrafted rookie free agents, something they routinely do in the immediate aftermath of the draft.

Kris,

What your stating is fact and I will take a step further, the NBA and MLB are waitnig out the outcome of the NFL labor dispute to help shape there own CBA`s this particular dispute will re-shape Pro Sports as we know it.

Dear Mr. Salguero

If there is no football this year whats happens with this blog ?

Will you keep it open ?

This place is sorta like a second home for some here.

Will you change the name and subject matter ?

This football lockout affects you and us fans alike that come here to share our thoughts.


Soiled :)

Home @7:24,

Nice post you should send it to Mando so he can copy it because what your talking about there is alot more relevant to me than engaging in conversation over an often injured RB who`s ability to sign with anybody is a big if without a settlement.

Soiled Bottom,

Don`t worry you can always come on and drop some of your witty chatter and find people to respond.

Armando has really shown us these past few months what a journalist he is NOT. Regardless of the cba, he could have done a better job covering the bases. Just a few examples (because I am not getting paid for this):

- updating the fans when the next talks are

- discussing the ramifications as to what the recent rulings have meant

- discussing just what has been missed so far from the normal offseason routine - practices, OTA's, workouts, ect.

- discussing what plans there may be for how the team can make up for lost time once things are resolved

- discussing at what point in time (dates perhaps) the first game and then the whole season would be jeopordized. Dig in, do some research to get some estimates and review them as time goes on.

- letting us know how much contact he has with management and what their biggest concerns are as the delays go on

- reporting on if players are working out much or taking the advice of their agents who are telling them not to work out because they will not be covered in case of injury

- report in general what other sources (writers that cover other teams, agents, owners) have recently been saying about the lock out and chances for resolution

What do we get? A wide range of far less substantive topics, varying from little importance to no importance. salary cuts, being a fan, Mallett yapping paypack, a 'you pick the QB' game, and if I am not mistaken, a bowl of fruit loops.

Kris,

I'm not into it.

In this day and age too many try to glorify Norse beliefs as a mythology. If it's not that, it's some young skin heads trying to hide behind Odin to perpetrate hate.

It's blasphemy!

I'm a Purist ASATRU ODINIST. It's not a religion, it's spirituality and a way of life.

We believe first and foremost in TRUTH. It's a universal energy that defends you and empowers you.

Secondly, we believe in individual righteousness and integrity.

Without these attributes, Mankind will become lost!

ValHalla!!!!

fin4life | May 16, 2011 at 07:29 PM


Gotcha !

Until this bunch is gone, it won't make much diff.

The higher court ruling means the bfl is basically closed for business. Also meaning nfl players are free to sign with any other football league they desire.

If it becomes engrained in players minds they wont be recieving paychecks the entire 2011 season. I will not be surprised in the least if deep pocket CFL owners seek to take advantage of this. Which should the NFL reopen for business in 2012 will create a whole new set of problems of it's own.

IT WILL BE FOOTBALL GUYS, THEY JUST PLAY WITH EACH OTHER TO SEE WHO'S GOING TO GET MPRE MONEY FROM US ,THE FANS ..................THEY R NOT DUMB TO MISS THE SEASON W/THE GOLDEN EGG .

DB....i'm not gonna keep posting this....but ALL people should be on guard......

THE NFL, NBA, MLB.....would not shut down with out FULL INSIDER knowledge......guys with this type of money practically run the world.....or they have close ties to those that do.....

They're not leaving this moey on the table out of principal......

think about it....

Then think.....what are you gonna do about it.....

I know it's farfetched, but, greedy NFL owners need be very careful or 2012's opening day rosters could resemble what CFL rosters looked like, and CFL rosters could resemble what NFL rosters used to look like.

Its farfetched, but you can never say never!

IT WOULD BE TRULY DEVASTATING IF BECAUSE THERE'S NO 2011 NFL FOOTBALL, WE END UP LOSING CAM WAKE BACK TO CANADIAN FOOTBALL.

What everyone's forgetting is that a lot of holes in the team can (and probably will) be filled by UNDRAFTED ROOKIES! How many teams went with undrafted runningbacks last year? So, we've got this new kid Thomas. Bring back either Ronnie or Rickey (or both if they can swing it). Add an undrafted rookie or two, and your backfield is complete!
Carson Palmer will probably retire for at least one year, so I don't see him in play this year. DeAngelo Williams will go to whomever gives him the biggest paycheck. Same with Asumouga.
So, expect Miami to scour the FA market for a good player willing to sign a good deal. And then pray that the undrafted rookies that they bring in can help contribute at QB, running back, safety, etc. Cause that's probably what's gonna happen.

If we have football at all, that is...

FOR NFL PLAYERS WITHOUT TRUE FINANCIAL LIQUIDITY. SHOULD THERE NOT BE A 2011 NFL SEASON, SIGNING WITH THE CFL IS A REAL POSSIBILITY.

PROBABLY UP TO 75% OF THESE PLAYERS ARE LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK JUST LIKE MOST AVERAGE AMERICANS DO. ONLY ON A MUCH LARGER SCALE. THEY CANT TELL THIER CREDITORS TO HOLD BECAUSE OF THE NFL'S PRESENT SITUATION.

Adam Schefter described it as a complete and total victory for the owners.

The next hearing is June 3. Seems like that will be of bigger consequence. The players are not minding too much missing OTA's, thats like a vacation for them, but missing paychecks will be a different story if it gets to that point. How they respond, if it comes to that, is anybody's guess.

I 'think' what Kris is saying, is that these mega-rich owners are going to hang tight and do whats best for them in the long run, and not be overly worried about one single season. I would agree with that.

0x80,

45% of the owners can live w/the current system and 20% are losing money like ross in fl ......... IT'S ALL AN ACT .

CFL isn't hiring everyone, some may go to Europe....they'll work it out! Mark my words, give them one more month!

Aloco, it's a game of chicken. Nothing more, nothing less. Remember, seasons have been halted before in professional sports so it is not impossible it will happen again.

The June 3 ruling will start forcing the hand of one side or the other, at least it seems that way.

0X80,

MAY BE NOW IS TIME TO SETTLE IT DOWN WHILE BPTH WON ONE ROUND ..I THINK THEY WILL GET IT DONE TO GET OUR MONEY.

WHILE BOTH

With the NFL riding at all time highs in popularity, it is hard to believe that a bunch of billionaires and millionaires would let the season be canceled. History has shown though that even smarter people have done dumber things.

It's not a question of if it will happen again, but when it will happen again. Greed is blinding.

I've read all the criticsm of the Pouncey pick and quite honestly it's ridiculous!! The thinking is that if Pouncey doesn't become a top centre it was a reach....blah, blah, blah....

Alan Faneca just announced his retirement from the NFL. Thirteen season in the NFL, 10 years with the Steelers and NINE Pro Bowl appearances. He was a big part of what made he Steelers OL great for years. He was taken in the first round (26th overall) and the thinking goes something like 'you don't take a guard in the first round'. Bollocks!!....Faneca will get Hall of Fame consideration. He was a big part of making the Steelers one of the top runnin games in the NFL. Do you think the Steelers wished now they hadn't of drafted him in the first round...not a chance!!

Craig

Nobody is going to criticize the Pouncey pick if he goes to 9 pro bowls. They merely are expressing doubt as to whether he has that potential.

I say you need to first see the movie before you can critique it. Let the guy play before judging the pick.

0x80 you're on the money tonight! Great comments!

In Peter King's column today he talks about the fact there was speculation that the Steelers tried to trade up with the Redskins, possibly to team Pouncey with his brother. There were a lot of teams that saw Pouncey as a sure thing. Guys shouls remember that next time they want to criticize Ireland and say he 'reached'.

0x80,

I feel exactly the same. Unfortunately, there's a chunk of the fanbase who like to criticize everything Irleand and Sparano do.

Ask Tim Tebow, Im sure he'll tell you how great both twin brothers are. Tebow won a Heisman and 2 National Titles running behind them both(Marquis/Mike Pouncy).

Personally, I believe it's all over. The Players and Owners just can't get this done till the whole mess goes over the cliff. The 8th District Court said today Judge Nelson was wrong to lift the lockout. The Owners will look to bury De Smith and his mouth after June 3rd. Very sad, fans mean nothing

CraigM,

I hate to say this, but there are segments of dolfans who would complain more about thier underwear being clean, than if they wore the same boxers for two weeks without wash or change.

Redsky

I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. I'm just riding out the halo effect while it lasts.

Craig M.....

Those bashing the picks before they play.....is the EXACT equivelant of you proclaiming every pick the RIGHT PICK....and has future HOF all over it......

Lets just sit back and watch before the POT CALLS THE KETTLE BLACK.....on both sides......

The question and answer that may never be asked:

"Who was the last SB champions of American Footbal history"? Answer: GB Packers

According to Mayan calenders the World ends Dec 2012. If this is true and there's no 2011 football. We may indeed have witnessed our last SB champion in American sports history.

kris,

When did I say every pick is the right pick?

Even if the Mayan calenders were not indicating total annihilation of the entire world's population. Who's to say the entire western hemishere may not be damaged by som unknown cataclismic event beyond recover.

GRAIG M,

KRIS DIDN'T SAY YOU SAID (( EVERY PICK ISTHE RIGHT PICK )) ...HE USED THE WORD (( EXACT EQUIVELANT OF ))..


KRIS IS NOT GUILTY .

DB @ 9;11 TRYING TO COMPETE WITH HOME .

Personally, I believe it's all over. The Players and Owners just can't get this done till the whole mess goes over the cliff. The 8th District Court said today Judge Nelson was wrong to lift the lockout. The Owners will look to bury De Smith and his mouth after June 3rd. Very sad, fans mean nothing

Posted by: bobbyd12 | May 16, 2011 at 09:01 PM
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Bobby D....and other poster's......

I said the day lock-out was put back in place (right after the last 1st rd draft pick was selected).....that the "lifted lock-out" was merely a ploy to get fans excited about the draft......it (the lock-out) was lifted roughly 36 hours before the draft....plenty of time to give hope to the average Joe Schmoe football fan (me included).....hope that football was BACK ON.....

However we were ALL played....by the media, the NFL, and the court systems......

They used us to drum up ratings....and line their pockets...and then quickly (within less than 12 hrs after the end of rd 1).....returned to the lock-out.....knownong full well that most fans only care about the 1st rd...and only the most die-hard fabs will continue to watch after rd 3.......there was no money in that......

Bottom line......we got plaid like patsie's

ALoco,

Not competing with HOME. Just reverberating documented historical fact. HOME cares little for facts, theories are his facts.

Aloco,

I have NO idea what kris' argument was. I simply said for people to say that Pouncey has to be a top centre for this to be a good pick is garbage.... Faneca was a guard taken in the first round back in '98 and he did a great job making the Steelers line great. If Pouncey turns out to be anything like Faneca I'd be a happy camper.

Im just shocked HOME hasnt blamed the Mayans for HAARP! LOL...........

ALERT ALL DONKEYS,


IN THE NEXT 72 HOURS ,IT WILL BE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE OWNERS AND THE PLAYERS ..........

I'm okay with the NFL's owners locking out the players as long as it takes for the owners to get the deal that they want. Hopefully a deal in the owners favor will have the benefit of keeping ticket prices within reason for the NFL's fans. I wouldn't mind seeing replacement players play for a whole season if need be. Maybe Kyle Mackey could come out of retirement.

plaid=played....

and ignore any other typo's or mis-spellings.....

Lifting the lockout slightly before the draft and reinstating it after day one, was merely a ploy to make sure all teams could get out thier playbooks. Now no one has an unfair advantage if there's a season left to be played.

GRAIG M, AGREE WITH YOUR POINT OF VIEW .


AN AGREEMENT WILL BE REACHED IN THE NEXT 72 HOURS BETWEEN OWNERS AND PLAYERS TO GET OUR MONEY AND TV MONEY AND MERCHANDISE MONEY WHILE WE GO WORK .

0 x 80 is gay.

after day one of the draft

ALERT ALL DONKEYS,


IN THE NEXT 72 HOURS ,IT WILL BE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE OWNERS AND THE PLAYERS ..........

Posted by: ALoco | May 16, 2011 at 09:18 PM
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Aloco.....you are now on record as of 9:18 PM 16 May 2011.........

I'll be expecting to see something in writing no later than 9:17 PM 19 May 2011.....

When Aloco reports breaking news, usually its what he found on PFT. He doesn't like to post links. I do.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/16/report-breakthrough-in-talks/

DB....its about money....YOU watching and ME watching......

playbook.....lol.....they can e-mail those any time they feel like it.....

whats a few thousand dollar fine to a billionare owner......

kris,

Havent you noticed by now? ALoco is one "DONKEY" who loves talking out of his "A*SS". I wouldnt be surprised if ALoco's real first name is "JACK".

Just don't e-mail one to Henne....he will call TMZ and tell them "HOW HARD HE IS WORKING".....

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